Richard Dawkins, Ann Druyan, and Ken Frazier in Conversation
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- At the Alex Theatre, Prof. Dawkins was in conversation with Ann Druyan, co-creator, writer, and producer of the Cosmos television series (the first of which was in collaboration with her late husband Carl Sagan) and creative director for NASA’s Voyager Interstellar Message Project. Druyan and Dawkins were hosted by moderator Kendrick Frazier, editor of Skeptical Inquirer magazine.
At a time when irrationality runs rampant, the fundamentals of science are being denied at the highest levels of power, and “alternative facts” saturate mass media, there has never been a greater need for Dawkins’ approach to forthright, enlightened discourse.
This talk took place on October 20th, 2019.
Professor Dawkins, please never die.
Dawkins family owned slaves and grabbed land for centuries... Now blabbering about NASA. Get over your celebrity cult worship trash...
@@AudioPervert1 you seem salty. How would something he took absolutely no part in, had no possible control over since it happened generations before he was even born, and hasn’t one iota of relevance pertaining to the competency, veracity, rationale or credibility of what he speaks of today? It, in fact, does you a disservice by exposing a lack of any valid or reasonable explanation for your unfavorable opinion of him. At least put a little effort into forming a rational and/or sensible argument
@@AudioPervert1 So if my grandfather killed a man I have to be punished? I have to pay for my parents' sins? You asshole. Shut your fucking mouth.
his passing will be of great loss to the world and of great loss to many many people of the world !
@@AudioPervert1 your ignorance is showing.
Mister Dawkins keeps on amazing me in his eloquence and knowledge. You are one of my examples in life and work. Thank you for being you.
WHAT ABOUT ME DOLLEENGG🙄☺️
Richard.....you r the light the encouragement and hope for many of us. Thank you.
I deeply admire you, Professor Dawkins. I hope you will visit Vietnam one day. I'm always your huge fan.
@tate rosemary I don't really understand what you mean.
The world needs more rational people in the world like Prof. Richard Dawkins.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge sir. You are my only real teacher.
Dear Mister Dawkins, I have the deepest love for your work. Thank you so much. To my humble knowledge and opinion, you are the most badass person who has ever held such scientific speeches in front of a public. Thank you again.
Alex. MTL, Canada.
Initially, several years ago, I found Ann Druyan when I was immediately taken by a quote of hers. It was about the meeting of lifetimes/timelines between herself & her late husband, Carl Sagan. It’s THE WAY she writes, speaks & communicates. The original Cosmos & The Pale Blue Dot was absolutely moving for me.
They are 2 of my absolute, favorite humans on this Pale Blue Dot.
Would also love to recommend their daughter, Sasha Sagan’s book:
“For Small Creatures Such as We”
It’s incredibly well written😊
Also, who doesn’t love Richard Dawkins??!!😁
People like this just get better with time.
We are all so fortunate to have overlapping lifetimes with some of the greatest minds of all time! 🌍 🌏🌎
🙏🏼💛
Professor Dawkins is my intellectual hero 😁
Yet he is a fool.
@@markrobertsministries ...claims an uncultured, uneducated, unenlightened buffoon
We need both your approaches to science understanding. And many others. Thanks both for being the way you are.
So good to hear a new conversation with dawkins, you are a fucking legend mate
My gratitude to Dr. Dawkins. I am one of your followers and have read some of your wonderful books. My greetings and appreciation. Eddie.
Dawkins will always be a force in the world.He is an "heretic" ,to some now,but future generations will really celebrate him more than we'll ever do.
I LOVE you Richard Dawkins and am so grateful for what I've had the pleasure of learning from you.
Thanks to professor Dawkins.
Carl Sagan deserves a posthumous Nobel Prize in Literature. He told the greatest story there is.
And hopefully we don’t need to repeat a posthumous allocation in the case of Dawkins! Let’s give him one now while he is alive!
Her statement that you cannot change peoples mind by making them feel stupid is as simple as it is brilliant.
And thats exactly one of the things that went totally out of control since many years, mainly through the rise of social media.
If someone is intelligent enough to admit they are wrong, they can accept that they have been wrong. Prof. Dawkins has explained how he did this himself as a young man.
She is wrong about that, if you respect superstitious people, you will enable them. If someone believes in fairies, they need to be made aware of how stupid that is.
@@presidentobummer447 tippy toeing around the plebs is a lost cause, tried it, now to me satirical and derogatory response is inevitable, they absorb the facts better now, its the language they understand
There actually IS such a thing as being stupid, idiotic and mislead. People need to be made aware of that.
You cannot change the mind of someone who is dead set they are right and you are wron. In which case, explaining in great detail how dumb they are is quite satisfying
Richard Dawkins I adore you!!! You are the coolest person in the world! You have opened the eyes of many! I learned a lot after reading your books! You are a legend to me and I am your fan!
Ann is the sweetest lady ever. 💕
Richard is one of the greatest science communicators. This is a fact that many of his detractors overlook in seeking to demonise his inconvenient explanations..
Lots of well deserved adulation for Richard Dawkins here, but let's hear it for Ann Druyan too! One of the greatest collaborators in science communication still living. This woman contributed massively to Carl Sagan's brilliant popular work. Anyone who hasn't discovered Carl Sagan's books, 'Cosmos', 'Pale Blue Dot' and 'The Demon-Haunted World', please check them out.
Thank you for the recommendation. I will check them out! :-)
Thank you.
Mr Dawkins
You are a torch in the dark world, but what a pity many people don't understand you! I love you
I loved the "devotion" for the truth of reality as presented here; as well as the healthy skepticism exhibited by Dawkins to keep its grounding in just that, "devotion" for the TRUTH of *REALITY* and NOTHING MORE.
I absolutely love Professor Dawkins' DNA tie! His genes are beyond beautiful.
Even though I don't hold to any of these people's world views, I still enjoy listening to them.
dear Dawkins..i love the aesthetic side of science being advocated...it is quite rare among most of the people doing science...the pragmatic side is significant but the evolutionary drive to seek patterns and perceive beauty which in turn has ensured our survival too...
Absolutely enjoyed every moment of this
What a joy and pleasure. 👍❤️
Why is UA-cam burying this channel? I searched Richard Dawkins before and only found this heading to the channel itself !!!
Richard Dawkins truly is a gift to humanity.
Richard deserves a billion subscribers. 🍻 cheers to you
Thank goodness you ate from the tree of knowledge.
He ate from something.
the ones starting applauses every fifth sentence are quite annoying.
Did anyone else feel Richard's restraint at the pushback of the tooth fairy comparison. What a gentleman. They're one in the same ma'am, imaginary.
*One and the same
(sorry - compulsive English teacher handing out free samples!)
Tooth Fairy didn't create the universe is what he misses.
@@markrobertsministries the evidence of the universe being made by a God and the evidence of a tooth fairy are exactly the same; there's none for either.
Good to see him doing well.
A interesting and very well done talk by all.
Richard Dawkins is absolutely correct, it’s not only the Right we should be afraid of attacking Academia.
Excellent conversation. Denying scientific truth is delusional
Yeah like believing in free will
Pearl Buck won the Nobel prize for literature for writing about the life of Chinese farmers. Her work was partially fiction, but not all of it.
Thanks for this. Really rids the bad aftertaste from watching Heard and Harris. Hopefully, you get Dan Dennett, PZ Myers, or Shermer on.
Ann Druyan's voice is soo soothing.
This is not a singing show.
There's something about Richard... "Don't kill the messenger" is an understatement. Simply put, he shows up--again and again; albeit, reluctant in compromise (or so it would seem)... though a more constant advocate the world may never know. Clarity is a double-edged sword... acutely defined yet cumbersome in its conveyance. Accommodating ones' share doesn't negate its weight. ~*~
Ken Frazier is so unprepared and is asking such terrible questions. Glad Richard took over.
I could beat Richard Dawkins in any intellectual debate! I really am so articulate, erudite and incredibly knowledgeable on any subject. I really know it all. Oh one little thing I've forgotten to add, is that I hold Six PHD. My latest two in biology and astrophysics. I'm so special!
Richard Dawkins is the Prophet of Science.
Intro is spot on😁
My experience with religion has been problematic for ages ever since I was a little boy……. I was raised as catholic when I was 12 years old our priest was visiting our home for the holidays season, I approached him and with a low voice I asked: father may I ask you question!!! He replied yes my son I said if God exist who created God? Before I finish he screamed at me saying how dare you ask this question get out of my sight little boy. it was terrifying experience.
Happy 80th birthday, professor Dawkins.
Imagine a world full of Richard Dawkinses lol... you’re the best sir! 👍
Richard's suit is so dapper OMG.
*orders Ann's Cosmos companion book
I don't know how prayers can help when someone is very sick, science, medicine doctors are the ones who can help and have a positive mindset.
Ann Druyan is awesome...not many can stand up to the criticism of Dawkins, in this case the claim that her pastor character in Contact (played by Matthew McConaughey in the film) was too sympathetic. But she can, and did. She's right...the story one is much more powerful it 1.) his character is interesting an well developed 2.) his character engages religious people to join this discussion.
I hope she lives on forever....oh...yes. She will.
I love Richard's straight talking, saying how it is, no flim flam. I did find Anne's gushing and difficulty to 'spit it out' a little too irritating.
I am dawkins fan since 1998 when you had a interview on the veja magazine. I like his job and i am atheist too. My Sister doesn't agree with my atheist. My whole family is catholic
We need more hate mail videos!
The people who constantly applauded when Ann and Rickard are talking need to stop doing so. It is hard to hear what they said, and I honestly believe that most of them didn't even understand half of what was being said.
It was one person in particular, they sat right in front of me and it was very loud -_-
They have no free will
To that guy who clapped for everything and perhaps too loudly: We felt the passion but can you not clap that hard?
After minute 45 Richard Dawkins reads his hate mails. You shouldn´t miss it, it´s funny how dumb they are.
He's looking awfully old. I bet his rear end is tightening up when he thinks about meeting his Creator. He knows damn well we didn't come from primates that evolved over billions of years from an amoeba.Jes smarter than that.
Great talks here but must confess to finding Ann Druyan's slow and long ended responses frustrating to listen to. It seemed that Richard Dawkins was feeling that way too with his edginess and fidgeting. I know it may be her age or whatever but it does make it harder, at least for me, to enjoy her responses as much. Nothing personal against her, as I think she's a wonderful human being. Just a bit frustrating to listen to.
look at Dawkins' tie ❤
This is not fashion show
my first carl sagan video was he explaining fourth dimensions
Ann is too soft and Dawkins is too hard. But of course both of these approaches are best in different situations and when trying to persuade different people.
RIP Frazier x
Speaking of usefulness of science; synthetic biology and nanotechnology will revolutionize everything. These sciences will totally change the world.
Never die RD love your dna
I was listening to SpermSwamp and this came up in my suggestions
ALL DOGS ARE RELATED AND THAT PROVES THAT HUMANS AND BANANAS ARE RELATED???? THAT IS SPONGEBOB IMAGINATION!!
Let's not confuse science with philosophy.
Imagine Dr. Carl Sagan himself and Neil de Grasse Tyson in place of Druyan and Frazier in this conversation...
The amount of ads you put in your videos is criminal
41:43 -- for all those folks asking "what's the harm?" or thinking that these ideas are benign
happy birthday :)
A really interesting conversation. At one point Ann compares (religious) belief systems with another (scientific) belief system. Unfortunately this feeds the myth that science is a religion and if you accept a scientific world view you are part of a religion.
The word 'religion' is defined as: " A pursuit or interest followed with great devotion." eg: "consumerism is the new religion".. not just referring to a deity.
Richard seemed a bit grumpy!
We still love him though!
I would love to hear their thoughts on the ongoing UFO/UAP sightings by US Navy Pilots...
I wish the audience wouldn’t fucking clap every time Professor Dawkins opens his mouth...
Can we let the "Christianity has been corrupted! The TRUE form, obviously practiced by my church, fixes all that!" thing die, already?
There was never one original hegemonic Christian practice, and that's ok. It was never consistent and perfect, just like no religion ever was.
The simplest and most viable explanation for this identical behavior of all religions is that none of them has ever had a true connection to any sort of wise and powerful being.
That's the reality we all live in here. If you want to change that interpretation, you have to bring facts. Your bible is hearsay without exception. We're going to need direct observations of reality that demonstrate that your stories are factual.
In the ~2000 years your religion has been around, and more amazingly, in the many thousands of years before that when other religions ruled the earth, nobody of any religion has managed to do so.
You're not going to brush away that understanding with a "Just trust me bro, it's real" any time soon.
Sometimes I wonder if Dawkins writes these hate-mails himself, given he enjoys reading them out so much.
And in the UK abolish the first past the post system, make something mire like a real democracy.
The EU.A group of unelected people making laws without peoples consent ...So called experts ,who know how to run my life better than me.Dawkins compares these people to doctors..Well how about NO
those hate letters were hilarous :D :D
Never behind rationality!
And [mention, O Muḥammad], when your Lord said to the angels, "Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority." They said, "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood, while we exalt You with praise and declare Your perfection?"He [Allah] said, "Indeed, I know that which you do not know." (Qu'ran 2:30)
And He taught Adam the names - all of them. Then He showed them to the angels and said, "Inform Me of the names of these, if you are truthful." (Qu'ran 2:31)
They said, "Exalted are You; we have no knowledge except what You have taught us. Indeed, it is You who is the Knowing, the Wise." (Qu'ran 2:32)
He said, "O Adam, inform them of their names." And when he had informed them of their names, He said, "Did I not tell you that I know the unseen [aspects] of the heavens and the earth? And I know what you reveal and what you have concealed." (Qu'ran 2:33)
And [mention] when We said to the angels, "Prostrate before Adam"; so they prostrated, except for Iblees. He refused and was arrogant and became of the disbelievers. (Qu'ran 2:34)
And We said, "O Adam, dwell, you and your wife, in Paradise and eat therefrom in [ease and] abundance from wherever you will. But do not approach this tree, lest you be among the wrongdoers." (Qu'ran 2:35)
But Satan caused them to slip out of it and removed them from that [condition] in which they had been. And We said, "Go down, [all of you], as enemies to one another, and you will have upon the earth a place of settlement and provision for a time." (Qu'ran 2:36)
Then Adam received from his Lord [some] words, and He accepted his repentance. Indeed, it is He who is the Accepting of Repentance, the Merciful. (Qu'ran 2:37)
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I was interested when they discussed evidence based science. Then they agreed on AGW. You can't agree with both of these.
To professor Dawkins. (Q). If the male & the female make a child that has the best of both parents & Is now more unique in ever changing diversity, is this observable proof of evolution?
That constant clapping and cheering is so annoying...
I think one person was doing it just to be rude, it was pretty irritating
Best moments at 1:13:30
Ads every 5 minutes.
Someone REALLY close to the mics claps:
1) early
2l loudly
3) aggressively
4) all alone
5) at odd times
Once you hear it, it gets more and more irritating. It's a wonder he/she isn't removed
شسالفه ماكو عربي ❤
Not nearly half aware of the irrationality of his scientific convictions.
I don't know if you ever read this , but id love to see you explain the RNA thing again. I briefly heard you explain something about a cell that can replicate its one dimensional plane into a 3 dimensional "something" sorry im no biologist ha , but to me this sounds totally fascinating or did I completely pick that up wrong. UA-cam community help also appreciated . Thanks
Richard, you have to convert to God.
Says who?
That one fuckin incessant Clapper really started to get on my nerves as the video progressed. Was it just me or is that evidently true to all?
“What I say to you in the dark you must repeat in broad daylight; what you hear whispered you must shout from the rooftops.” - (Jesus of Nazareth the Messiah, at Matthew 10: 27) -
Where we must avoid all religions; even the pope and Christianity; because religions are all led by the many false prophets who continue to mislead us. When Jesus had already warned us to beware of them all, almost 2,000 years ago. For he alone (in the name of Immanuel) is the Son of man and the true Prophet who was sent by the Lord God, to be always our one Teacher…
These are the words of the Lord God:
“I will raise up for them a prophet like you [Moses] from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth.” - (at Deuteronomy 18: 18) -
“Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign: A young woman is with child, and she will bear a son, and will call him Immanuel.” [“God is with us”] - (The Prophet Isaiah 7: 14) -
“If you have ears to hear, then hear.” - (Jesus, in the name of Immanuel, the Messiah, at Mark 4: 23) -
“God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” - (at John 4: 24) -
“In truth I tell you, anyone who gives heed to what I say and puts his trust in him who sent me, has hold of eternal life and does not come up for judgement, but has already passed from death to life.” - (at John 5: 24) -
“Beware of false prophets, men who come to you dressed up as sheep while underneath they are savage wolves. You will recognize them by the fruits they bear.” - (at Matthew 7: 15-16) -
“Do not call any man on earth ‘father’; for you have one Father and he is in heaven. Nor must you be called ‘teacher’; you have one Teacher, the Messiah.” - (Matthew 23: 9-10) -
“Take care that no one misleads you: For many will come claiming my name…” - (Jesus, at Matthew 24: 4) -
“Many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many; and as lawlessness spreads, men’s love for one another will grow cold. But the man who holds out to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the Kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the earth as a testimony to all nations; and then the end will come.” - (Matthew 24: 11-14) -
“I am the way; I am the truth and I am life; no one comes to the Father except by me. If you knew me you would know my Father too.” - (John 14: 6-7) -
“When you pray, go into a room by yourself, and shut the door. Pray to your Father who is there in the secret place; and your Father who sees what is secret will reward you.
In your prayers do not go babbling on like the heathen, who imagine that the more they say the more likely they are to be heard.
Do not imitate them. Your Father knows what your needs are before you ask him.
This is how you should pray:
Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name,
Your kingdom come; your will be done, on earth as in heaven,
Give us today our daily bread,
Forgive us the wrong we have done, as we have forgiven those who have wronged us.
And do not bring us to the test, but save us from the evil one.
For yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory, for ever.
Amen.
For if you forgive others the wrongs they have done, your heavenly Father will also forgive you; but if you do not forgive others, then the wrongs you have done will not be forgiven by your Father.” - (at Matthew 6: 6-15) -
“Pass no judgement, and you will not be judged. For as you judge others, so you will yourselves be judged, and whatever measure you deal out to others will be dealt back to you.” - (Matthew 7: 1-2) -
“Truly I tell you; if anyone obeys my teaching he shall never know what it is to die.” - (John 8: 51) -
“Always treat others as you would like them to treat you: that is the Law and the Prophets.
Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life and only a few find it.” - (Matthew 7: 12-14) -
“I am the gate; anyone who comes into the fold through me shall be safe. He shall go in and out and shall find pasturage.
The thief comes only to steal, to kill, to destroy; I have come that men may have life, and may have it in all its fullness.” - (John 10: 9-10) -
“I am the resurrection and I am life. If a man has faith in me, even though he dies, he shall come to life; and anyone who is alive and has faith shall never die.” - (John 11: 25-26) -
“I have not come to judge the world, but to save the world” - (John 12: 47) -
“Whoever will acknowledge me before men, I will acknowledge him before my Father in heaven; and whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven.” - (Matthew 10: 32-34) -
“Any plant that is not of my heavenly Father’s planting will be rooted up. Leave them alone; they are blind guides, and if one blind man guides another they will both fall into the ditch.” - (Matthew 15: 13-14) -
“The disciples came to Jesus and asked, ‘Who is the greatest in the kingdom of Heaven?’
He called a child, set him in front of them, and said, ‘I tell you this: unless you turn round and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven.
Let a man humble himself till he is like this child, and he will be the greatest in the kingdom of Heaven. Whoever receives one such child in my name receives me. But if a man is a cause of stumbling to one of these little ones who have faith in me, it would be better for him to have a millstone hung round his neck and be drowned in the depths of the sea.
Alas for the world that such causes of stumbling arise! Come they must, but woe betide the man through who they come!’” - (Matthew 18: 1-7) -
“Though many are called, few are chosen.” - (Matthew 22: 14) -
“An expert in the law, [a leading religious Pharisee] tested him with this question: ‘Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?’ He answered, ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind. That is the greatest commandment. It comes first. The second is like it: Love your neighbour as yourself.
Everything in the Law and the Prophets hangs on these two commandments.’” - (Matthew 22: 35-40) -
“There is no greater love than this, that a man should lay down his life for his friends.” - (John 15: 13) -
"Stay awake, and pray that you may be spared the test: The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak." - (Matthew 26: 41) -
“However, when he comes who is the Spirit of truth; he will guide you into all the truth.” - (John 16: 13) -
“Teach them to observe all that I have commanded you. And be assured, I am with you always, to the end of time.” - (Matthew 28: 20)
Yours, in true Spirit and in our one given prayer, 2gointruth, on Tuesday the 7th of September, 2021: - (Matthew 5: 14-16) - Where every minute (of both day and night) can be a new beginning for any one of us. Let it always be you. Pray to God often, in the way prescribed above, before it is too late.
RICHARD DAWKINS IS GOD INCOGNITO
While Dawkins reads the letters, I think of Bush's quote from 2016 “Too often we judge other groups by their worst examples, while judging ourselves by our best intentions.”
I suppose we do need to hear the small boxes that some religious people put themselves in to protect themselves, so we should hear their "worst examples", but I'd probably be more interested in the idea of steelmanning, identifying the strongest arguments. I think science can challenge it.
We have vast ignorance, and science can't answer many questions that need religion, philosophy, humanism, or other structures that can consider wisdom and values, and surely they can be debated rationally by people who don't need certainty on uncertain things. Ann Druyan is a better spokesperson for this than Dawkins.
how about you also apply scientific thinking to politics and entertain the idea that there might be some objectively existing social forces behind all these Trumps? and that in society we actually have those forces fighting each other? and that the existence of such forces might have a material basis too, which might be in how we humans interact with the world, in how we support our lives - that is by production? we might as well call those forces "classes", but that would require too much intellectual courage, wouldn't it.