The Strategic Evolution of EDG and Chinese Valorant

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  • Опубліковано 23 вер 2024
  • Nobody even expected EDG to be contenders to win VCT Champs, especially against a very strong Team Heretics squad, but they ended up defying everyone's expectations. How did EDG rise to the top and become the best team in the world? Let's dive deep into their journey from the very beginning, to understand exactly how they evolved into the championship caliber team they are today.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 108

  • @theunnamedplane5563
    @theunnamedplane5563 2 дні тому +228

    that is quite the thumbnail

    • @oah1943
      @oah1943 2 дні тому +1

      edg do play like clueless monkey the last 2 masters

    • @ssss8162
      @ssss8162 2 дні тому

      @@oah1943 Who's the clueless monkey now? Hint: Look in the mirror

    • @ssss8162
      @ssss8162 2 дні тому +4

      Yeah coz EDG pretty much shit on every team in NA and EMEA. Womp, womp

    • @ssss8162
      @ssss8162 2 дні тому +4

      yeah hidden racism is still racism. keep up the good work NA.

    • @genn8062
      @genn8062 2 дні тому +13

      @@ssss8162Lowkey i dont think he meant to be racist, I didnt even think it was racist until I saw this comment

  • @GambleNats
    @GambleNats 2 дні тому +136

    W thumbnail, kk truly is the peak of human evolution

    • @ssss8162
      @ssss8162 2 дні тому

      Well thats what it means after he took a huge dump on all the NA and EMEA teams

  • @pheonixalier
    @pheonixalier 2 дні тому +97

    One of the best videos on EDG champs. This video covered their team the most out of all the others I've watched, and really looked into their journey not only highlighting player-wise, but as a team, with tactical and team-building insight. There's a saying that improvement is not linear. People said it was a 'slump' and the 'end' for EDG, but I've always said that 'slump' was them improving. This trophy was a long time coming, but they definitely deserved it this year.

    • @ssss8162
      @ssss8162 2 дні тому

      Fact is nobody really truly knows game.

  • @yivan2526
    @yivan2526 2 дні тому +60

    29:03 I wouldn’t call it a rumor. Both Haodong and Alecks confirmed it

    • @mzllrr
      @mzllrr День тому +13

      he also left out a major input in that rumor at the time, being that prx used the comps of the teams EDG were going against and mimicking their play-style which is really interesting to know because this might be a game changer for prx going into next season and figuring out their role issues

  • @AleyaBY
    @AleyaBY День тому +10

    Props to you, bro. This is by far the most thorough analysis of EDG since they entered the international stage. I've seen videos that were sometimes a bit inaccurate, but this one’s the real deal. You even provided evidence of the incremental changes they made, with before-and-after comparisons of their gameplay, showing how they improved and whatnot. I also liked that the video wasn’t just about KK-you highlighted the strengths (and weaknesses) of the other members as well.
    That said, I wouldn’t mind if you made a video focused solely on KK. Just saying, in case you plan to make one in the future. Afterall, he is the GOAT.
    Anyway, I agree with you on a lot of points-especially how EDG trusted the roster they had at the start (with Smoggy) and made a few adjustments to address what they lack. Building and maintaining team chemistry is an invaluable asset. To add to your video, I’d like to emphasize the impact of the IGL change as well. As someone who watches the minimap a lot, I think Nobody’s calls had a huge impact, supporting the team’s individual mechanics. Their calls, especially in that last round at Sunset against SEN, were spot on. Smoggy did a great job sealing the deal. It truly shows how much EDG has grown from their losses earlier this year. It's just like that 5-26 never happened.
    In my opinion, the turning point was their match against PRX. That win boosted their confidence, helping them dominate through the grand finals as the top seed and eventually take it all. At least, that’s my take after watching a few minutes of their translated documentary.

  • @hoopbully
    @hoopbully 2 дні тому +24

    EDG’s Kayo, Sova, Cypher, Omen comp is so strong, it literally has everything you need. Play making, info gathering, flashes, counters, delays, lurk, it’s almost like the dualist position is going to become just a flex spot in general where you go hey man you’re good at the game play whoever you’ll be the most cracked with.

    • @mzllrr
      @mzllrr День тому +1

      or play whoever was broken at the time, which was neon

    • @roelofsonneveld1049
      @roelofsonneveld1049 День тому

      What’s the 5th agent? Can’t quite tell which comp you’re referring to haha sorry

    • @halalola432
      @halalola432 День тому +1

      Meta comp for a reason

    • @retrofying4761
      @retrofying4761 День тому

      ​​@@roelofsonneveld1049I think its the Abyss meta comp, can also be the Ascent comp as well. 5th agent is usually Jett

  • @Agertar
    @Agertar 2 дні тому +18

    Man you're my favorite Valorant UA-cam analyst as you don't go over rounds, but concepts as a whole. Never even got into Valorant but you're content always makes me feel like a tactical genius (yes I know if I actually tried to play I'd be like a deer in headlights but I can dream). Keep up the awesome work, and I'm excited to see if 100T will recognize your skills!

  • @spencer4679
    @spencer4679 2 дні тому +30

    The real evolution was kangkangs hand tape

    • @mzllrr
      @mzllrr День тому +4

      whats really interesting is that its actually therapeutical and helps alleviate the pain from excessive movement in his arm, definitely a game changer for him because he's had those pains for a while. iirc he was a fencing player

  • @sohhyuna
    @sohhyuna 2 дні тому +12

    Love the analysis. Pointed out a lot of major ideas I had when it came with the direction of EDG. As soon as I saw them back in 2022, I thought they had the potential of the former DRX squad; excellent team play and quick executes. I was a bit skeptical swapping out Haodong since to me he was China’s MaKo, but Simon was definitely the missing puzzle piece. Great video

  • @n1luq
    @n1luq 2 дні тому +6

    This video really shows how qualified Platoon is for a francshise coaching position. In my 3-4 years of looking at valorant esports content. Platoon is the only one that I believe has the eyes for it. His insights are a quality asset that a top coach should have. He uses all sorts of tools to help analysis, stats, teamplay, chemistry, mechanically. You know how some people only look at stats to assess a team? or just looking at comps or looking only on the individual players? Even if he may not have the experience for it, his knowledge about the fundamental of creating success in deeply rooted. I hope to see the fruits and flowers of his work eventually. The best tress will eventually produce the best fruits. Right now, Platoon has establish the roots and the stems. I hope that you find your success, wherever, whenever it is. Even if I am some random user on youtube comment, I appreciated your valuable insights, from the bottom of my heart.

    • @halalola432
      @halalola432 День тому +1

      Tdawgg also has a great understanding of the game even tho his videos go sometimes for a more comedy type analysis. (He’s an igl for a challengers team)

    • @tokipt2
      @tokipt2 День тому

      ​@@halalola432tdawgg is so good i wish more people watched his videos

  • @iamnotluisokay
    @iamnotluisokay 2 дні тому +7

    this might be the best video you've made yet. great work brother!

  • @babusseus1105
    @babusseus1105 День тому +1

    It really felt like EDG went from decent to the best within a month. Awesome video like always!

    • @LollipopLop
      @LollipopLop 17 годин тому

      They add Simon too in a month

  • @黃亮語
    @黃亮語 День тому +3

    The original head coach After said in the post-match interview of the Shanghai Masters that he could not verify the strength of his playing style in CNvct. Therefore, most netizens believed that he was evading responsibility. He was attacked by a lot of public opinion and had to retreat to the background. In addition, Newcomer s1mon was actually recommended by after.

    • @platoonval
      @platoonval  12 годин тому +1

      It's unfortunate that he was a part of so much of their team's development and was let go at the final moment, but he definitely deserves credit for a lot of EDG's progress over the years! Hopefully he finds a good role next year.

    • @jimiyu.
      @jimiyu. 2 години тому

      @@platoonvalentire edg roster has been praising after and talking about how much of the current teams foundation was created by afters coaching and ideas
      if the edg players are that vocal about after I think it’s likely he still has a very good reputation within the scene even if netizens continue to do netizen things

  • @tszsysnapse1599
    @tszsysnapse1599 День тому +1

    thx for your explanation of this! Now it makes sense for everything

  • @casterr1571
    @casterr1571 2 дні тому +8

    I always found EDG cracked just not able to beat the top tier teams who've been around t1 longer but they proved themselves as some of the best.

  • @AUG_Glow
    @AUG_Glow 2 дні тому +4

    The thumbnail was actually really good

    • @ssss8162
      @ssss8162 2 дні тому

      He should make another video of NA and EMEA teams going the other direction. That will be pretty funny

  • @cl_0ud470
    @cl_0ud470 День тому +1

    Kangkang peak human form confirmed according to the thumbnail.

  • @vyxvaylyx6835
    @vyxvaylyx6835 2 дні тому +4

    omg platoon upload

  • @bootao1671
    @bootao1671 2 дні тому

    Best video on EDG's Champions journey!!! Keep up the good work👊

  • @t1ko677
    @t1ko677 7 годин тому

    When everyone doubts you, you get used to it, but you eventually work hard to silence everyone. What a great story. EDG may no longer be strong in the future, but this championship is of great significance

  • @marcdebatle6629
    @marcdebatle6629 День тому +1

    Yooo Platon I would love to see a breakdown on why did Team Heretics lose 3 finals on 2024. I feel like it could be a good video!

  • @Davinki651
    @Davinki651 День тому +1

    Isnt Edg vs Sen a noteworthy game to cover? That was pretty much the turning point that started Edg's run to finals

  • @bryanmulcare9083
    @bryanmulcare9083 2 дні тому +1

    EDG was first scene in Champions Berlin, 2021, they weren’t successful and Champions, Istanbul, 2022 were also weren’t successful. And then they pop off in Top 8 in 2023. Didn’t win in champions Los Angles, 2023. And finally clutch it out with the new roster, finally wining champions Seoul, 2024. Made respects to Kang Kang. And Congrats to their first major win this year.
    Edit: S1Mon is their best sub this year for setting up towards success. Even if he low frags, his execution for his team was something unheard of.
    I couldn’t fine any research for EDG participating in Champions 2021 unfortunately. But I really thought that they were the only Chinese team came Berlin.

  • @ssss8162
    @ssss8162 2 дні тому +5

    Clearly lots of NA, EMEA fanboys are still crying about EDG winning Champs.. Womp, womp lol

  • @badgoodboy9437
    @badgoodboy9437 День тому

    Underrated video ,Bravo!

  • @shuzhan9684
    @shuzhan9684 2 дні тому +1

    Ever since from Tokyo masters from KangKang being oping God to being the best hard entering duelist in the world.

  • @aaronpua2630
    @aaronpua2630 Годину тому

    you forgot to mention the never before seen strat of using the first map for aim training so you can win the series overall, gg edg

  • @staygoldpwnyboy923
    @staygoldpwnyboy923 2 дні тому

    this is top notch val content

  • @iisaaaaa
    @iisaaaaa День тому

    "Going to Champions 2024, nobody thought Edg would be a threat" only him? Glad that everyone else thought they were a threat.

  • @niofruit
    @niofruit 2 дні тому +1

    The Tacticsl Evolution of EDG and KangKang

  • @crypmama8339
    @crypmama8339 2 дні тому +1

    every video i watch i wonder how you only got 35k subs

  • @wolfgangoppenheimer2905
    @wolfgangoppenheimer2905 День тому +5

    You ignored the biggest (literally) factor for EDG WIN , which was ARDIIS . HE MADE THEM WIN .
    BRICK BY BRICK

  • @tomlin6554
    @tomlin6554 День тому +3

    Waaaayy better than TMV's video. Nice one!

  • @icyFPS
    @icyFPS День тому +1

    great video

  • @singularneo
    @singularneo 2 дні тому

    Every since champs 2022, I had a dream

  • @ImTheProblem_x
    @ImTheProblem_x 2 дні тому +1

    the thumbnail is CRAZY

    • @ssss8162
      @ssss8162 2 дні тому

      its not crazy, its just racist

  • @mopp782
    @mopp782 День тому

    Thumbnail is wildin

  • @gaoaibai6243
    @gaoaibai6243 2 дні тому +2

    Kinda strange why you didnt put G2 in, the only team that has decisively beaten them in the entire VCT Champs. I personally think sth "ticked" when they lost that third game to G2, it felt like EDG was finally gettin what it takes to be the word champions. Without G2 I do not think EDG would win VCT Champs at all, especially if they came up against LEV like when they did vs FUT. No offense but EDG pre-G2's loss is a completely different beast than when they were beating Team Heretics in the finals, and without that G2 loss I think Team Heretics (prolly LEV is more likely tbh) would of been crowned VCT champs instead of 4 times losers..

    • @shafialanower3820
      @shafialanower3820 2 дні тому

      G2 got embarrassed by fanfic and lev

    • @dhekanlavida3979
      @dhekanlavida3979 2 дні тому

      4 times losers u mean heretics?

    • @irishsamin9397
      @irishsamin9397 2 дні тому

      g2 is complete trash can only farm prx because prx comepletely fail of this year against a good team g2 shit their fking pants so no need to put g2 on the video

    • @voyagersentfromearth
      @voyagersentfromearth 3 години тому

      What do you mean decisively beat edg?? Edg should've won that match 2-0 they were up 11-9 on attack haven even after choking that G2 barely won bind 13-11

  • @misosoupings
    @misosoupings 2 дні тому +2

    w platoon upload

  • @deviazn
    @deviazn 2 дні тому +1

    wild thumbnail 💀

  • @voyagersentfromearth
    @voyagersentfromearth 3 години тому

    People just find comments to hate on edg's success, its too funny

  • @qinglong424
    @qinglong424 День тому

    if you translate this video in chinese and uopload it on a chinese social media(you can contact someone who has already an account with subs)this video would blow up

  • @Ghost-pm9yr
    @Ghost-pm9yr 2 дні тому +1

    EDG ARE THE GOATS

  • @_proxy5
    @_proxy5 2 дні тому

    very good vid

  • @ELMcNuggetzCucuy
    @ELMcNuggetzCucuy 2 дні тому

    wanted to see benjy win! :(

  • @otakuhero2621
    @otakuhero2621 2 дні тому +1

    They needed a white jersey

  • @mf_footages101
    @mf_footages101 2 дні тому

    Seemoan is the goat man

  • @jinsanityy7379
    @jinsanityy7379 День тому

    W vid

  • @reality6401
    @reality6401 День тому

    Who is Edward and why is he gaming?? 😐

  • @redballoon2380
    @redballoon2380 2 дні тому +5

    Neon is the reason why EDG looked good at champs. Kangkang has been dominating with her ever since Riot decided to make her overpowered. Once she gets nerfed, EDG wont be as great anymore

    • @shafialanower3820
      @shafialanower3820 2 дні тому +4

      That is the dumbest reason ever

    • @LetsGoPRX
      @LetsGoPRX 2 дні тому +3

      wdym? this is not fking reason, kk can play neon why other team cant play neon?minibot?zekken?aspas?

    • @redballoon2380
      @redballoon2380 2 дні тому

      @@shafialanower3820 then why is edg destroying teams after neon buff? not a coincidence??

    • @spiiralwya
      @spiiralwya 2 дні тому +5

      ah yes this the type of guy who says chamber made yay 🤣

    • @rustyastronaut3118
      @rustyastronaut3118 2 дні тому +3

      its buffed for everyone not just edg.

  • @Chalino93
    @Chalino93 2 дні тому +1

    What do you mean 2g is the best team in the world

  • @AjaniTea
    @AjaniTea 2 дні тому +2

    No views in 20 seconds? Bro fell off

  • @Twisted7346
    @Twisted7346 2 дні тому +1

    FIrst :)

  • @lontongpetir7852
    @lontongpetir7852 День тому

    so EDG once a monkey (according to the thumbnail)

  • @Burpingtogheter
    @Burpingtogheter 2 дні тому +1

    Edg aren't the best itw, very good team that had a massive run in champs, repeatable? Unlikely. top 5 team? Maybe.

    • @jimiyu.
      @jimiyu. 2 години тому

      I think having the best performance in the biggest tournament of the year qualifies you for the title of best itw
      you could argue semantics about which is the best team on paper all day long without a conclusive answer but by the results edg was the highest performing team at the end of the year

    • @Burpingtogheter
      @Burpingtogheter 2 години тому

      @@jimiyu. no, no it doesn't winning a competition doesn't automatically make you the best in it, beating another team doesn't automatically make yours better.
      Can you argue they put in a once in a lifetime performance? Of course, I'd also point out most of the big teams failed to ever truly hit the ground running at champs.
      This is common knowledge amongst sports fan btw, the best team doesn't always win.
      Mind you, there's no shame in making that mistake, but it is, nonetheless, a mistake

  • @jordan-eh8ni
    @jordan-eh8ni 2 дні тому

    Edg sucks. How can people even acknowledge them as a good team when they just abused neon to win champs. When she actually gets proper nerfs I doubt they will ever place high again

    • @Rajputrajx
      @Rajputrajx 2 дні тому

      India 🇮🇳 is far better than china.

    • @tszsysnapse1599
      @tszsysnapse1599 День тому +2

      I bet you didn't watch the video poor guy 😅 every season of this game has a version, this season is the neon version, so you need to keep adapting the version into your strategy, every teams know but not many of them can totally adapted and put it into the overall team tactics. After the version changed, why don't you think edg will not adapt it again just like they changed jett to neon this year ?

    • @robloxguard6948
      @robloxguard6948 День тому +3

      what are you yapping about ?? KK literally played Yoru , Jett on icebox and other maps and still won ????

    • @voyagersentfromearth
      @voyagersentfromearth 4 години тому

      Well other teams are allowed to do the same why didn't they do it then??? It's like saying optic abused chamber on every map to win masters

    • @jordan-eh8ni
      @jordan-eh8ni 2 години тому

      @@voyagersentfromearth nv/optic placed 2nd in berlin before chamber existed. edg never did good in any event until now

  • @ghostking44
    @ghostking44 День тому

    25:00 this is actually untrue. Haodong flexed to initiator a lot during 2022, it wasnt until lock in that he stuck purely to controller

    • @platoonval
      @platoonval  День тому +1

      He definitely flexed it from time to time (and a lot of other agents) but he was definitely not naturally suited for that role, which is likely why they swapped him to controller after LOCK//IN like you said. A lot of players play a role to make their team work, so I still wouldn't call Haodong an initiator player before I call him a controller player.