Boss Nextone Artist Amplifier: Solid State vs Valve Comparison
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Watch this video to hear Andy Hilier compare the EL84 and 6L6 channel of the Boss Nextone to real valve amplifiers.
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I now gig with a Nextone Artist- it sounds as good as any of the great valve amps I've used over the years as a working guitarist in numerous kinds of bands. The editing software is great, and you can tune the amp to sound just about like any amp you want. Get it on stage , turn it up and it's all there.
Steve P cool to know, thanks!
So true- I still can't believe it- even though I own many tube/valve amps, I seem to mostly use my Nextone Stage and am ordering the 80 watt Artist version.
Good choice for gigging, 80 watt Artist, more headroom.
The valves may sound a little better but for the guy in the bedroom jamming this Boss is hard to beat. It sounds great!
For the guy on stage gigging this Boss is hard to beat. With a little editing and a careful ear, this thing can sound like any amp out there. Not exact, but the differences are so minor that it doesn't even matter.
I have too many vintage 60's valve amplifiers as a collector and Player. I think SOLID State is the ultimate future for players.
Everytime the tube amp sound is demonstrated the volume level is a tiny bit louder than the nextone which make many people really believe it sounds better than the nextone. Hence the loudness war. You really have to have a very well trained set of ears to really judge the sound-quality..... not the volume. Louder is NOT better!!!
Yes, I noticed the volume disparity and thought the same as you.
One thing the boss will do much better than the valve amps is produce a better tone at low volumes... which is the big plus for solid state amps.
I'll take solid state or digital any time over aggregating expensive undependable unpredictable tubes:)
That's a misnomer.. I've ran the same tubes for several years on some of my amps. I'm a tube guy but I'm gonna buy one of these Boss amps..
@@addicted2tone349 Not really! Valves/tubes degrade over the years, they need regular servicing to keep them sounding the same, they’re incredibly unpredictable, especially tone wise when you turn up at some old venue that has ageing electrics, heavy, fragile to temperature change & you need to warm them up before you can even play. (The list goes on)
Do they react, respond and feel good to play? You bet! But some valve amps sound 💩 (worse than some SS amps) regardless of having tubes.
If you’ve got a real good solid-state amp, it’ll sound consistently good regardless of the electricity ⚡️ or inconsistent current at a venue, plus being rugged & reliable.
No fuss involved, you turn it on and play, maintenance free. (And that’s a big deal for me)
The important thing to ask yourself is “are tube amps still needed?” The answer is no!
Even I prefer the sound of a great tube amp over solid state, but the other factors even it out.
At a pub/club know body is going to notice the difference or care these days. I’d much rather had some drunk guy/girl spill their drink on my sub £500 amp than £1500 tube amp, that’s for sure.
The Boss is the best for real world solutions.
nice review
Like to hear the same comparison using the drive channels of each amp...all at the same out put volume...👍🙄
Thanks Andy for the demo, did you try the Editor software to get closer to the valve amps. V2 is out now. I have the Boss 40 watt stage great little amp good feel under the fingers tubbish response takes pedals well but theres a miss with the speaker. It must be hard to design a speaker that does cleans crunch and high gain all in one at all volume levels. We know there specially designed like the Waza. I did try external cabs for that reason and yes dynamic range mids / highs / lows changed the chartactor but it wasn't as solid state fizzy it actually breathed more like a valve amp so speaker cab size enclosure ohms and power rating took up most of my day but I'm more aware of speaker and cab joice Cheers.
Yeah for price this will work great
Good comparison video .. To the point no frills.. Fair comparison. For the price I think the NexTone does pretty well when compared to more expensive tube counterparts.
not the fairest of comparisons as all these amps have their own voicing aside from the tubes but ya agree it(Boss) sounds darn good! I bought it lol
Greetings lads. I wonder how much similarity could indeed be achieved with more time invested in tweaking the various tone settings on the Boss ? I dinnae ken but it's summat to think about. 🍀 🎸 🍀
Thanks for this. I own a Carr Rambler and just bought the Nextone Stage. I also bought a Heritage H535. I recently moved to Maui and didn't want to bring my '68 ES-335 and Carr Rambler with me because the environment can be tough on guitars and amps.
The vintage 335 and Carr are like making love; making a commitment. The Nextone is like, well, making love without love and commitment. The H535 is like being kind of in love, btw.
I bought the Nextone based on a stunning demo by Jeff Hornbeck at Bounty Guitars in Maui. He's played and heard everything and said for the money and convenience (WEIGHT!), this beat any amp in the shop (he's not only played a Dumble, he has photos of him and Mr. Dumble). Under his fingers, this is absolutely true. If your'e a distortion player, this is an inexpensive way to get phenomenal sounds. As a fairly straight forward player, it's not phenomenal exactly. Paraphrasing the poem "Dorthy" by poet Marvin Bell, its phenomenal "inexactly."
Still sussing it out. Trying to decide whether to return it and get a Blues Junior, or ship my Carr to Maui. Or make due with making love without the commitment :-)
Shout out to Brian Champagne from the comments, "Nextone...doesn't have the note separation the valve amps have."
You need a girlfriend, bruh
You may want to try the Nextone special edition. It has two separate channels and a Wasa craft speaker.
I thought the Laney sounded best out of the three. I have a Katana 100 by the way- sold my hand-wired Kingsley Deluxe 32 and went with the Katana for many reasons. Great amp.
They really are my JVM 100 is collecting dust under the stairs
The Laney was slightly louder, which accounts for the perceived "better" sound imo.
Thank you for comparing the amps with CLEAN tones. I never cared for amp comparisons with gain/drive added. I own five tube amps, all Fender. I think my next amp will be a Nextone if i can ever find out what material the cabinet is made out of. Does anyone know?
The valve amps have more sparkle and chime, but as mentioned cost a lot more. Did you have the presence knob turned up and the tone button engaged on the Boss Nextone? I think that would have produced a better tone on the Boss. It would have helped if you showed us the settings on the dials on the Boss. Thanks for the review.
I’m pretty sure that with the BOSS 10 band graphic EQ pedal I could get the Nextone even closer to the valve amps that you are comparing it too.
The speakers play a huge roll in the amps sound, response and feel.
I think the nextons and katanas etc. will give more satisfaction to average players, than the ceap-mid priced quaky sounding tube amps. Less service cost and failures due to less heat/weigth and weaky parts. And they finally sound real good and authentic!! I do repairs on amps since 15 years...Have seen and heard a lot of fame and expensive amps.......besides the cheap ones. Tubes are not in anyway better, just more expensive. In a quality amp top shelf. But I really like the new solid-state-digitals units. Grab, go, plug in and smile!
LOL yeah ok
@Dr. Gordon Freeman Of course I do, who doesnt believe in fairies and at least I'm still 100 percent right.
All the valve amps are fuller in Sound! But the Boss ist quiet near!
Great playing! I love the sound of the Nextone but the idea of it is even better, especially for me who is in a very confined space and cannot be very loud at most hours of the day. Side note, nothing against you but gosh I am sick of the G chord in demo videos lol
How about some dirt pedal comparing these 3 amps?
IF there is a noticeable difference in sound it does not make the Nextone a bad amp. And if the Carr is 5 to 6 times more expensive... it should kick me from my chair, but it does not. And there should be a coffee machine integrated etc.
The boss sounded better than the tube models.
Let's go deeper and explore Music ! make people feel high said bob marley :D
Is there a reason you didn't demo the amps fully distorted, which is typically where modelling and solid state fall short of tube amps?
It seems like he is just a clean type of player. THAT is my guess.
@@AnthonyChhan
Yeah...I'm not convinced
Have a look round for a few independent reviews and you'll see what I'm getting at.
I think the clean sounds are more revealing than distorted sounds and there are lots of reviews with Katana and Nextone distorted sounds on ytube. The Nextone sounded pretty good for rhythm playing but the tube amps did sound fatter with single note playing particularly on the higher strings.
Comparison would been much fairer playing through the same speaker - New speakers need "Break in -playing time" and they also differ by Sensivity - Magnet type and wattage , But neverless the Boss is a awesome sounding solid state amp !
I prefer a great sounding solid state amp over every cheap tube amp !
Which one sounds more valve like? Nextone or blues cube?
The 6L6 setting is actually really good. I've watched about a dozen comparisons and youtube reviews and the 6L6 setting always does well. The EL84 or 34 do not do so well. To my ears anyway. I think the Nextone is best at a warm ,compressed, and saturated tone.But can it handle a warm, saturated, compressed pedalboard?
I preferred the Boss on 6L6 setting. Not so good on the EL34 as you say.
Couldn't really hear much difference on the 6l6 models but on the el34 amp there was a big difference,the boss sounded a bit bass heavy and less glassy than the laney
Yeah that was surprising to me as well. The 6L6 mode on the Nextone was really good.
Daniel Barth I was surprised that this was released so close to the katana it's a a bit confusing.....I've got more than enough amps right now (tube and Ss)but everybody was wailing on about the katana and telling me to get one then this model comes up.....I dunno maybe il get a boss when their going cheap after xmas
GREAT VIDEO! On the EL34's I thought the Nextone sounded a bit muffled. Perhaps could be adjusted for with EQ? However, on the 6L6.....what?!!!! I thought the Nextone more than held it's own. I might even prefer it over the Carr. Recordings can be funny though, what did you think in the room?
Having owned the nextone I can confirm that the 6l6 and 6v6 modes are better than the el84 and el34 modes
I love solid state and spent a few years recording almost 30 songs with them. Yet, there was always that something missing in the tone. Folks, tube technology was obsolete before the Beatles broke up. There is a reason pro players still use them, and why companies make amps with them. I went in to buy a Katana 50 because based on videos like this one it seemed to be the solid state I was dreaming of. But it just left me missing the same thing solid state always does. I plugged into a Fender Bassbreaker 15 combo and was instantly blown away by the tone and feel. The Katana series is very cheaply constructed. Perfectly fine for bedroom use but I feel like the years will tell on these amps. The Roland Cube series were much more rugged. There is a lot to like with the Boss line, but if you are really wanting tube tone you have to get those tubes to do it.
Very interesting. I thought the Boss with 6L6s came closer to matching the Laney than the Carr. And the Boss with EL34s came closer to matching the Carr than the Laney. Although none were spot on, of course, just funny that it seemed backwards. Sounded like with tweaking the eq everything could've been closer. Of all I preferred the Laney. Just my 2 cents.
impressive?
maybe a great jamnight amp !
It's a bit unfair not to put all three through the same speaker. Valves affect headroom and breakup/distortion. They don't do much of anything to EQ. That's what the tone stack and the speaker choice are for. And the biggest factor is always the speaker. Greenbacks don't sound the same as Vintage 30s or Jensons or no-name Chinese speakers.
12/22/2019. Hello Sounds Effects, I have heard people be worried it started fizzing and farting with high gain high volume chords. Is that true? All replies from viewers also welcome.
40w 12" speaker nextone = $400.00 from sweetwater music. a great deal + you can leave your expensive amps in the studio where they belong.
Nextone or Katana Artist?
I have the Nextone Stage and the Katana Artist. The clean channel sucks on the Katana Artist. Selling The Katana Artist and ordering another Nextone- the 80 watt Artist version
if you were miked at a gig or going direct into the P.A., no one in the audience would be able to tell the difference between a tube amp or solid state. and if they even could, half would say that the tube amp sounded better and half would say that the solid state sounded better (just general audience members/not guitar snobs, lol)...and again, that's if anyone could even tell a difference. Which they can't. I knew a guitarist who got the best tone imaginable using an old RP-1 processor directly into the P.A. and I've heard many famous guitar players with tube amps coming out of their butts!! Tube amps are great. Don't get me wrong...... But the whole issue of one sound versus another is pointless and endless. Nobody will ever win the argument. Just play what YOU think sounds good. Albert King and B.B. King, in MY opinion, had a great tone. And, guess what? they both used solid state amps for the majority of their careers. All/most of those bands in the eighties, which I thought had pretty good live tone, used solid state amps. Again, there is no definitive best or worse. Billy Gibbons used a solid state Marshall for years too!!
@Pat - You stated what I was going to already (about general audiences vs guitar snobs) so the only thing I can do is agree. So, the strange thing about any of this is why do people continue to waste time making these comparisons over and over again? The biggest skeptics of our OWN sound is ..........ourselves! Who does it matter to the most? Us and our contemporaries! Buy what you want and/or can afford, make the most of it, enjoy and make music!
Don't forget Dimebag. Heaviest metal tone and used Randall ss.
The Boss is a great Swiss Army knife and the others sound better at what they do. Still, I think the Roland Blues Cube sound better. Also, the speaker can change everything. You get whatt you pays for in the end.
The valve amps all had significantly more fidelity and clarity.
Do you ever reply to the comments ?
the Boss actually sounds better than the Car go get your money back
The Boss did well but the tube amps in both cases had more brightness and sizzle.
Equalize the volumes, for god’s sake
For AU $879.00 (RRP $1,099.00), I'd rather buy a Marshall DSL20H for $556 and a decent speaker box - FOR LESS. And that's exactly what I did! Great demo though! But the amp is missing the tube-sizzle. Seriously, this, presumably Chinese made amp, is way overpriced. The profit margin must be enormous! Boss needs to rethink its sales strategy.
879 for a boss nextone? Damn, I need to start selling gear in Australia. There 299 USD here
Boss has horrible compression on the leading edge of plucking of the string.
Valves don’t have that and definitely have more sparkle.
I get the feeling that, as with all amp modellers, you gonna find yourself hitting the strings harder in a vain attempt to recapture that leading edge.
Chalk and Cheese...
Will Valve Companies Still be making Valves in the Next 5 to 10 years as Nextone style amps Get Better & Better with Valve amps Not selling as Well Thus making Valve Manufacturing Unprophitable ?
No high gain?
No beer for you today!