WOW! V sounds like perfection here and it's so refreshing to know that he wasn't lip syncing!!! A TRUE VOCAL KING! Don't kill us in the comments 😅 LOVE YA'LL #QuarantineMarathon
I love you guys and you totally have to watch the explanation video for this and you shall be mindblown! Here is the link: Intro singularity analysis by Bookish theories (necessary and awesome, best explanation out there) ua-cam.com/video/wEqc6KES7GM/v-deo.html
@@LoveKandR yeah fam. I was at this concert. It was in Wembley. The thing is when you see them live, you can definitely hear the live vocals so I'm 100% sure that wasn't lipsyncing. But when they record it/stream it on vlive, it's harder to tell cause they sound too good lol. It's easier to pick out back track from live vocals if you're actually there and I can guarantee this is live.
love K&R They just practice a lot for us so they can perform their very best. But yes when they do have choreographies they do have backing vocals to help out bc that’s a lot but they still would sound just as amazing without those backing vocals bc that’s the hard work and dedication they put into each performance ☺️
Cause when you see them cry over a bad note or because of a cold and they still go on stage 100% like that...it hurts when people say they lip sync. Obviously it can appear like that because they are so good.
Tbh, the song is pretty easy to sing in live as he mostly sing in deep, low voice. Its pretty much his comfortable range. So, i dont think he lipsync. Like compare with stigma. This is very easy to sing.
Naah he wasn't lip syncing BTS don't lipsync they sing while using backup vocals so if they get tired or smth the backup vocals do the job or Army's sing but like most of the time specially in concert it's 100% real with no backup vocals or anything they just have fun and enjoy their time with the fans
yess Taehyung (V) is king of facial expressions and he is the role model of lots of idols to how he carries himself on stage and his charisma !! You should react to Jimin - Serendipity live stage mix next
he wasn’t lip syncing but there was backing vocals💜 V is KNOWN for his facial expressions and his stage presence and a lot of idols look up to him because he’s just amazing and knows how to draw you into the performance which is really cool
Cause of his voice and texture it's sometimes look like he is lip sync but no he doesn't!! (BTS are bad in lip sync)😂 btw you can react on BTS V stigma live performance too it's also dope
Your favorite American artist might lip sync so I’ll forgive since you’re used to it but these men sound better than the actual studio version so they don’t have to lip sync ( unless they or sick then they have too)
Even when V was sick, he tried his best to sing. He was so upset cuz he had a really sore throat & was abt to lose his voice so he couldn't sing the rest of his part for the performance of Truth Untold & cried when Army sang his part 😭😭😭
did u see Yoongi in the cypher medley live, he was sick with the flu and look at how amazing he is on that stage.. if u haven't react to cypher medley live yet u should one of the best ever
They only use lip sync for some lines of Serendipity Jimin bcuz the choreograph is hard. For V you can clearly hear the spit if u listen well. And sometimes you will hear he is breathing
I’m jealous of this live. When Tae performed this at my concert last year at MetLife the girls screamed so much you couldn’t hear his vocal at first until he started singing louder. He was still amazing live. They all were.
@@KentDawg18 yes absolutely, because Stigma in short movie and Stigma in live version have a different vibes...Stigma in short movie was very deep into the storyline,but stigma in live version is very special, V's visual, V's voice and everything are dope
V is known for his facial expression on stage when he's performing....and a lot of rookie studied his fancam and very look up to him....yeah we should be proud of him...
V are not Lip Sync..BTS never lip sync, but they sometimes use back track..usually for song that very hype or on hard choreo..but never in soft/ balad /solo performance. if you doubt bout his voice maybe you can compare his voice from James carpool and the MV while he sing his part "ON" song..or you can see *V sing Voice Compilation* .. or try *BTS MEMORIES OF 2017-live :STIGMA V/Taehyung BTS* , for this one i dare you to listen...
They dont lip sync. The will use a back track from time to time for the heavy dance numbers but usually only at 20-30% max. It's kinda what they are known for...their ability to perform complex choreography while singing live. I have attended 3 concerts and they were 100% live. You could def hear them breathing and difference live is noticeable. And let me just say they are all amazing live! They are BETTER than the studio albums. V has really strong live vocals, having been born with "perfect pitch" really helps. They blow me away each time. React to Stigma live. I promise it's worth it.
BTS can't do lip sync. 😂😂 there's a time when they should do the lip sync for pre-recording on music show (correct me if i'm wrong) and they actually bad at lip sync and they have to try that for several time 😂. And the man that make mistakes and have to re-do it again is the man that you guys reacting right now. 😂 They get used to sing live (literally they ate the CD itself) thats why they so bad at lip sync. Even when V sick the army sing on behalf of him.
They really are notoriously bad at lip-synching (especially RM-I can't stop thinking of all the MVs when his mouth isn't even moving during his parts 😅😅😅).
I remember I watch them performing other group song and almost all of them gave up and stop lip sync and the music is still on and it is caught on cam lmao.
taehyung is literally the king of facial expressions. compared to the dance line's solo songs, his choreo is much slower. more sensual. i'm so glad you watched the 'official' live, and not a fancam, as the latter doesn't capture tae's face, which is definitely the main highlight of every singularity live performance. and i understand why you might think he's lip syncing, but bts are very well-known for NOT doing it, unless they're sick or something. there's definitely backing vocals, but that's totally normal for performers. please react to stigma! the lyric video, then the live version. : ) you'll both be very impressed! other than that, i do highly recommend to reacting to basically bts' entire wembley concert. but if i have to pick out specific performances, please react to these: - jungkook's euphoria - jimin's serendipity - rap line's tear - suga's seesaw - i'm not sure if there's a specific cut of it, but the medley! keep on being awesome!
Singularity is best solo live performance ever.. He killed it Evey time he performed.. He ads little part himself and changed everytime it's litt.. Every performance of singularity better than previous one and something new everytime.. Taehyung seriously own the stage every time.. He has insane stage presence that's why every idol and rookies follow him and call him there roll modem.. That's why he's called " idol's of idol " ...
Taehyung really has a unique texture, his voice is like... Like you can't catch it lol, I don't know how to explain, but I think that's why people sometimes think he's lip syncing. This song is totally in his natural range, he sings it perfectly. And his facial expressions 😭 I saw Singularity live 2 times and I can assure you it was live ❤
Everyone might sound rude under the comment section but yh 😊🥺Hope y’all nvr stop reacting to bts. Btw they’re not good at lip-syncing. Therefore they don’t.
Its all good! it was a question that we believe was valid to ask... being that we haven’t seen a single MV from him. His voice is absolutely amazing 🤘🏿💜
I was front row for this show (Wembley Stadium, London - Day 1). IT WAS AMAZING!! I can confirm he definitely isn't lip syncing. The crowd were like putty in his hands during this song. Videos really don't do him justice. His voice is stunning and really stable in person.
No lip sync here. They always have quite stable vocals when they perform. Because they perform intense dance routines they would have a backing track for extra support. But nah fam they kill it everytime🥰 that's why they are KINGS
Watching his live performance is literally a blessing .. this man is a born performer .. he is breathtaking and his voice his heaven .. he slays live performance >3
These people Train many Years even before Debuting just to be perfect..And as they are top Idols they are perfectionists and know how to sing and dance at the same time...
I fall in love other time with that guy, he is the best, handsome and sexiest person in the World!!!!, *react to Stigma live, is his other song, it is the solo of V, the other members have them solos too*
Yesssss! I’m late but I was sooo happy when I saw the notification. You definitely know how to make ARMY (aka strongest fandom in the world which is a fact,) happy!💜
V!!!!!!! He's a gooood 💜💜💜💜💜 he's. Not the most handsome man for nothing!!! And plz react to jk begin live the footwork is just on point and House of Cards live is amazing too💜💜💜
Every Singularity performance got different expression of him. Yes, there was a pre-recording vocal there to support, but still could hear his live vocal clearly if the fancam goes well. Thank you for this reaction.
If it wasn't obvious already I'm binge-watching all your last videos right now, so good for my heart, and I feel your struggle, my hair is looking like the planet Earth right now, all blue green and brown and I can't get it done either T0T. Some times I can't believe V's voice but then I remember that he's vocal range can be compared to Freddie Mercury's and that makes everything posible, haha.
wish you would of watched singularity live from seoul final concert. he wore a feather coat and it was a hit for black swan and he just killed that performance. but anyway Tae is king of facial expressions. other idols study his live performace, stage presence/ facial expressions.
Thanks for your reaction in this quarantine moments I love all Singularity lives because Taehyung everytime do a different performance he is an amazing artist. 💜💜
The exaggeration of Reafe about his hair 🤣 made me laugh so much, boy you look good 😁 I understand that seating next to Queen Kristen is intimidating 💜💜 but your guys are a beautiful couple inside and out 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 thanks for the reaction, Tae facial expressions kill me, when he stares at the camera I turn away 😅😅 hahahahaha well him or any of the members to be honest 🤦🏻♀️
Please react to STIGMA by V The live performance, You won’t believe how wide his range are 🥰 Also I recommend watching HOW BTS ROASTED HATERS by SREY SINGIE (you’ll see how they handled the “lip syncing” rumors”)
WOW! V sounds like perfection here and it's so refreshing to know that he wasn't lip syncing!!! A TRUE VOCAL KING! Don't kill us in the comments 😅 LOVE YA'LL #QuarantineMarathon
😂😂
I love you guys and you totally have to watch the explanation video for this and you shall be mindblown! Here is the link:
Intro singularity analysis by Bookish theories (necessary and awesome, best explanation out there)
ua-cam.com/video/wEqc6KES7GM/v-deo.html
Guys react to other Vocal line solos
Jimin - Serendipity
Jk- Euphoria
Jin- Epiphany Stage Mix
love K&R never 😊💜
others: bts always lip sync
tae : it's not in my vocabulary 🔥😂
Fam he wasn't lip syncing. Listen to stigma also. I swear to God he's literally a real life anime.
HAHAHA! yessss he definitely is!
@@LoveKandR stigma live performance 2017? (Not sure)
@@LoveKandR yeah fam. I was at this concert. It was in Wembley. The thing is when you see them live, you can definitely hear the live vocals so I'm 100% sure that wasn't lipsyncing. But when they record it/stream it on vlive, it's harder to tell cause they sound too good lol. It's easier to pick out back track from live vocals if you're actually there and I can guarantee this is live.
Don’t compare him to anime that’s weird
he’s literally korean.. & for u to compare him to anime? lmfao weirdo
They always say, “If you listened to Singularity, Stigma needs to be listened to as well. They’re unbreakable pair.”
true that
wow true
Thissss!
i feel like this song captures his natural voice "range" (i dont know musical terms) thats why he can sing it so easily
It DOES REALLY 😍
Oh no they never lip sync although they might use some backing vocals at times. Just don’t ever think that or armys finna come for you 😂
Hahahah! He’s so good that we thought it had to be! Hes sooo talented!
love K&R
They just practice a lot for us so they can perform their very best. But yes when they do have choreographies they do have backing vocals to help out bc that’s a lot but they still would sound just as amazing without those backing vocals bc that’s the hard work and dedication they put into each performance ☺️
It seems like he was just singing quiet
Cause when you see them cry over a bad note or because of a cold and they still go on stage 100% like that...it hurts when people say they lip sync. Obviously it can appear like that because they are so good.
The song is made for his voice so its easy for him to sing it, also he probably has a backing vocal as well. 😅
No he wasn't lip syncing. Im honestly shook too everytime i hear em live.
Tbh, the song is pretty easy to sing in live as he mostly sing in deep, low voice. Its pretty much his comfortable range. So, i dont think he lipsync. Like compare with stigma. This is very easy to sing.
Naah he wasn't lip syncing BTS don't lipsync they sing while using backup vocals so if they get tired or smth the backup vocals do the job or Army's sing but like most of the time specially in concert it's 100% real with no backup vocals or anything they just have fun and enjoy their time with the fans
yess Taehyung (V) is king of facial expressions and he is the role model of lots of idols to how he carries himself on stage and his charisma !! You should react to Jimin - Serendipity live stage mix next
he wasn’t lip syncing but there was backing vocals💜 V is KNOWN for his facial expressions and his stage presence and a lot of idols look up to him because he’s just amazing and knows how to draw you into the performance which is really cool
Thank you so much for enlightening us!
Yes, he is also called as idol of idols💜
Cause of his voice and texture it's sometimes look like he is lip sync but no he doesn't!! (BTS are bad in lip sync)😂 btw you can react on BTS V stigma live performance too it's also dope
@쎄요 SSAE YO - 유머 카툰 진실!!
Your favorite American artist might lip sync so I’ll forgive since you’re used to it but these men sound better than the actual studio version so they don’t have to lip sync ( unless they or sick then they have too)
Yep, we already know they eat their CDs for breakfast, lunch, and dinner 😂😂
Preach
Even when V was sick, he tried his best to sing. He was so upset cuz he had a really sore throat & was abt to lose his voice so he couldn't sing the rest of his part for the performance of Truth Untold & cried when Army sang his part 😭😭😭
did u see Yoongi in the cypher medley live, he was sick with the flu and look at how amazing he is on that stage.. if u haven't react to cypher medley live yet u should one of the best ever
@@st1010 i cried our boy
And no he wasn’t lip singing they train for years to be that perfect on stage 😊🥰
BTS the King of Live Performance..
Isn't it.? True
He was actually singing.
U guys can actually hear it in the fancams
React to Vocal line solos
Jimin - Serendipity
Jin - Epiphany
Jk - Euphoria
V - Stigma
They only use lip sync for some lines of Serendipity Jimin bcuz the choreograph is hard. For V you can clearly hear the spit if u listen well. And sometimes you will hear he is breathing
I absolutely love this song😭 Tae's voice is literally everything.🥰
EVERYTHING!!!!!
BTS/Taehyung don't lip synch sweet couple.🤗
OMG HE'S THE REALIST! SO AMAZING!
I’m jealous of this live. When Tae performed this at my concert last year at MetLife the girls screamed so much you couldn’t hear his vocal at first until he started singing louder. He was still amazing live. They all were.
V live sounds just like his recorded voice. Try Stigma live.
I wish you will reaction to V stigma Live...because him so LIT guys,hope you enjoy💜
we're going to leave that for our "storyline saturday" :)
@@LoveKandR If you watch the short film, please watch the live version of stigma too!
@@KentDawg18 yes absolutely, because Stigma in short movie and Stigma in live version have a different vibes...Stigma in short movie was very deep into the storyline,but stigma in live version is very special, V's visual, V's voice and everything are dope
No lip syncing there guys! BTS and Lip syncing are never in the same sentence!🎤💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
V is known for his facial expression on stage when he's performing....and a lot of rookie studied his fancam and very look up to him....yeah we should be proud of him...
V are not Lip Sync..BTS never lip sync, but they sometimes use back track..usually for song that very hype or on hard choreo..but never in soft/ balad /solo performance. if you doubt bout his voice maybe you can compare his voice from James carpool and the MV while he sing his part "ON" song..or you can see *V sing Voice Compilation* .. or try *BTS MEMORIES OF 2017-live :STIGMA V/Taehyung BTS* , for this one i dare you to listen...
They dont lip sync. The will use a back track from time to time for the heavy dance numbers but usually only at 20-30% max. It's kinda what they are known for...their ability to perform complex choreography while singing live. I have attended 3 concerts and they were 100% live. You could def hear them breathing and difference live is noticeable. And let me just say they are all amazing live! They are BETTER than the studio albums. V has really strong live vocals, having been born with "perfect pitch" really helps. They blow me away each time.
React to Stigma live. I promise it's worth it.
He seducing us all with singularity gets me every time
BTS can't do lip sync. 😂😂
there's a time when they should do the lip sync for pre-recording on music show (correct me if i'm wrong) and they actually bad at lip sync and they have to try that for several time 😂. And the man that make mistakes and have to re-do it again is the man that you guys reacting right now. 😂
They get used to sing live (literally they ate the CD itself) thats why they so bad at lip sync. Even when V sick the army sing on behalf of him.
That's so true 👍🏻🤣
yeah👍They are lip sync so bad😂😂
Yes, they can't do lip-sync plus don't you hear his breath? OMG! How come you not know the difference between live and studio version
They really are notoriously bad at lip-synching (especially RM-I can't stop thinking of all the MVs when his mouth isn't even moving during his parts 😅😅😅).
I remember I watch them performing other group song and almost all of them gave up and stop lip sync and the music is still on and it is caught on cam lmao.
V looks taller. slimmer & WAY MORE manlier in person!!! He's so much more handsome as well
My heaartt😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
V is King and deep voice thank you watch this live please watch more BTS live love you guys so much💜💜💜💜💜
Lmao Reafe you ain’t the only one I need to get my eyebrows done and this quarantine ain’t it 😭
truss
Next The Truth Untoldd
Yes
Yesss please
YESSSS PLEASEEEEE AND LIVEEE
singularity is my favorite taehyung song😍 very smooth r&b
V’s Hypnotic gaze and unique charms are killing me..
Yasss🤗 now you know what’s coming after that 🙃 stigma live ! (Please👉🏻👈🏻💜)
Tae is my favorite member he is so cute omg and love your reaction 🥰💜
taehyung is literally the king of facial expressions. compared to the dance line's solo songs, his choreo is much slower. more sensual. i'm so glad you watched the 'official' live, and not a fancam, as the latter doesn't capture tae's face, which is definitely the main highlight of every singularity live performance. and i understand why you might think he's lip syncing, but bts are very well-known for NOT doing it, unless they're sick or something. there's definitely backing vocals, but that's totally normal for performers.
please react to stigma! the lyric video, then the live version. : ) you'll both be very impressed! other than that, i do highly recommend to reacting to basically bts' entire wembley concert. but if i have to pick out specific performances, please react to these:
- jungkook's euphoria
- jimin's serendipity
- rap line's tear
- suga's seesaw
- i'm not sure if there's a specific cut of it, but the medley!
keep on being awesome!
I love Singularity so much. Taehyung/V performed every single one differently and uniquely. No performance is exactly the same.
That is one beautiful human being. 💜💜💜🔥🔥🔥🌎
Singularity is best solo live performance ever.. He killed it Evey time he performed.. He ads little part himself and changed everytime it's litt.. Every performance of singularity better than previous one and something new everytime..
Taehyung seriously own the stage every time.. He has insane stage presence that's why every idol and rookies follow him and call him there roll modem.. That's why he's called " idol's of idol " ...
Taehyung really has a unique texture, his voice is like... Like you can't catch it lol, I don't know how to explain, but I think that's why people sometimes think he's lip syncing. This song is totally in his natural range, he sings it perfectly. And his facial expressions 😭 I saw Singularity live 2 times and I can assure you it was live ❤
Everyone might sound rude under the comment section but yh 😊🥺Hope y’all nvr stop reacting to bts. Btw they’re not good at lip-syncing. Therefore they don’t.
Its all good! it was a question that we believe was valid to ask... being that we haven’t seen a single MV from him. His voice is absolutely amazing 🤘🏿💜
Ikr!!! Its okay to tell them, but rude and criticize is another thing, looks like they don't learn from BTS to spread love 😒
King of facial expressions! It’s known that tae videos’ are usually showed to rookie idols or trainees to take example from him. He truly has an aura
You should react to Jimin - Serendipity live stage. It's so beautiful
before i even watch the reaction, I'm just happy because I know the power of this song.
His voice is literally liquid gold 💖 they should let him sing this low more often
His voice is like a fluffy blanket and btw try listening to this song while or before you sleep its so freakin relaxin
V's performance at the concert was the best performance solo of the night.
I was front row for this show (Wembley Stadium, London - Day 1). IT WAS AMAZING!!
I can confirm he definitely isn't lip syncing. The crowd were like putty in his hands during this song.
Videos really don't do him justice. His voice is stunning and really stable in person.
"WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TRYING TO SEDUCE?!" BRUH HE SEDUCE EVERYONE EVERYWHERE HE GOES-
No lip sync here. They always have quite stable vocals when they perform. Because they perform intense dance routines they would have a backing track for extra support. But nah fam they kill it everytime🥰 that's why they are KINGS
You're right Taehyung sounds like perfection stg my heart can't take it💜😭😔✊
At last a reaction to d king of facial expressions! So happy.Taehyung is just amazing,very talented.
Kristen expressions is everything...Tae tae is a role model for many bcoz of his presence and expressive moves ..
He took her hearts? He took my WHOLE FAM heart! Hehe 💜
He has such a unique voice and it make me feel soft and relaxed it's a whole other vibe😍😍😍
V got the vocals!!!
Please react to his song " STIGMA (his best solo in my opnion) " studio version and then the live version
V is the most beautiful man in the world
Ive been waiting for y’all to react to tae godly vocals. A true king of SOUL
Watching his live performance is literally a blessing .. this man is a born performer .. he is breathtaking and his voice his heaven .. he slays live performance >3
Stigma by V
Mamamoo- hip
Waiting for these two💜
Stay safe 💜💜
He is original visual😂
Next bts 2! 3! Live perform please💜
These people Train many Years even before Debuting just to be perfect..And as they are top Idols they are perfectionists and know how to sing and dance at the same time...
I fall in love other time with that guy, he is the best, handsome and sexiest person in the World!!!!, *react to Stigma live, is his other song, it is the solo of V, the other members have them solos too*
Yaaaaaaaaaaasssssss😍 his voice is MORE THAN PERFECT MOOORRREEEE!!!!✨
Borahae Kim Taehyung. 💜💜💜
Thank you for your reaction.
My beautiful angel taehyung 💜
💖💖💖 TaeHyuNg does things to my hearttt I can’t explain✨✨😭🥵
never...he is not lip singing how can that be possible....it's becuz he is gooood in singing🥰🥰😍😍😍
PLS DO REACT SERENDEPITY LIVE BY JIMIN PLS!💜
Yesssss! I’m late but I was sooo happy when I saw the notification. You definitely know how to make ARMY (aka strongest fandom in the world which is a fact,) happy!💜
V. Be still my heart.❤️😍😍🔥🔥
Love V voice love V so much💜
Singularity is a real queen. 🔥🔥
V!!!!!!! He's a gooood 💜💜💜💜💜 he's. Not the most handsome man for nothing!!! And plz react to jk begin live the footwork is just on point and House of Cards live is amazing too💜💜💜
They never lip sync.💜
Every Singularity performance got different expression of him. Yes, there was a pre-recording vocal there to support, but still could hear his live vocal clearly if the fancam goes well. Thank you for this reaction.
I love you,Nam Joon❤❤and thank you,V for yr song
Taehyung es puro ARTE 👏👏👏
Yess u guys react to V Singularity ❤ love you guys
They never lip sync. BTS are one of those artists who sound better live then the studio version
If it wasn't obvious already I'm binge-watching all your last videos right now, so good for my heart, and I feel your struggle, my hair is looking like the planet Earth right now, all blue green and brown and I can't get it done either T0T. Some times I can't believe V's voice but then I remember that he's vocal range can be compared to Freddie Mercury's and that makes everything posible, haha.
Taehyung so hot 💜💜💜
I swear how is this guy even real his beauty his talents and his deep voice it kills me tell me HOW is he real he is like an anime character
Hey sweet couple💜💜💜
Stay safe lockdown yourselves❗
Yessssssssssss finally 💜💜💜💜💜 YALL gonna react to my bby’s amazinggggggggggg and iconic music/live eeeeppppp 😃
YESSSS I LOVE V!!
Yeazzzz,my bias Kim taehyung (taetae💜💜💜💜
wish you would of watched singularity live from seoul final concert. he wore a feather coat and it was a hit for black swan and he just killed that performance.
but anyway Tae is king of facial expressions. other idols study his live performace, stage presence/ facial expressions.
Thanks for your reaction in this quarantine moments I love all Singularity lives because Taehyung everytime do a different performance he is an amazing artist. 💜💜
Yess!!, can you react HOUSE OF ARMY or go go or apanman plisss
watch V -stigma, his perfomance is art
Please react to STIGMA, this song will make you go goosebumps 💜
I love V, V is my BIAS!!!! 💜💜💜💜
V is perfect 😍
The exaggeration of Reafe about his hair 🤣 made me laugh so much, boy you look good 😁 I understand that seating next to Queen Kristen is intimidating 💜💜 but your guys are a beautiful couple inside and out 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 thanks for the reaction, Tae facial expressions kill me, when he stares at the camera I turn away 😅😅 hahahahaha well him or any of the members to be honest 🤦🏻♀️
V is so handsome
And so are both of you
Please react to STIGMA by V The live performance, You won’t believe how wide his range are 🥰
Also I recommend watching HOW BTS ROASTED HATERS by SREY SINGIE (you’ll see how they handled the “lip syncing” rumors”)
Thank you for doing this reaction and appreaciating kim taehyung💜 Lots of love.
i love this song so much
The real ones making this quarantine time better!
stigma live is a must!!!