THIS BUILD STILL WORKS!!! If you hear about burning inscription getting nerfed there was something crazier you could do that got nerfed ua-cam.com/video/4iYc2YhL7rE/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Doth Ignite magnitude on jewels is pog. Tested it and went from like 192 energy on Elemental Invocation to 288 with my 56% magnitude between my 2 jewels and adorned. Also I though my flammability curse would increase the amount of energy I get sometimes, but it doesn't. Not sure what curse is best, but I want to save frostbite for bosses since the curse that runs the combo is only spottily applied.
by the way, Considered Casting shouldn't work with triggered skills (now only works if you cast the skill yourself) edit1: Arcane Blossom notable on the passive tree is also pretty strong for MoM manastacking (15%inc. mana recovery rate, doesn't increase amount but shortens the time to get mana from all managain mechanics, like mana regen or others) edit2: Faster Curse Activation doesn't really matter with Cursed Ground + spell cascade bypassing the wait altogether, as you mentioned, so points spend solely for that are not worth it
You can get both "Notables in Radius also grant %increase Ignite Magnitude" and "Notables in radius also grant Meta Skills gain %increased energy" on time lost jewels. A time lost jewel with Medium Radius can be placed in the top center of the tree to hit Master of Hexes, as well as Endless Blizzard and Glaciation which would increase your Comet substantially (and you could also run Cold Exposure and Strip Away on your Comet Link in a crit build). You can also fit a time lost jewel with small radius in the socket near True Strike, and pick up Deep Trance to ease mana pressure and have another 3 notable time lost jewel like this (For the Jugular, True Strike, and Deep Trance).
@@Doth_ Maybe GGG intended to only make Considered Casting not affect Minions and such, so it still works on trigger/meta skills? I was certain "Spells you cast yourself" means literal self-casting, which in my PoE 1 brain means it cannot affect triggered skills. But this is PoE 2, and honestly I wouldn't mind this working, we already kinda lack in Support Gem options :D At the very least, if the tooltip says it affects damage significantly, it is worth testing on something like a boss (maybe Xesht) with and without the Considered Casting on, would be relevant info to have for everyone :P
Cast On Ignite says it builds energy off ignites from *hitting* and I'm pretty sure burning ground isn't a hit. I'm 99.9% sure this is a bug. For example, the shocked ground from lightning warp does not fuel Cast On shock.
Ignite from Flame Wall did give energy before, and GGG fixed it. They probably overlooked this one cuz not many people use burning inscription. I just wonder what kind of spaghetti code they have to have to fix each skill individually. lol
@@andrewlee5471some mtx (king of aradun or smth) disabled cast on step from corpsewade, because you counted as flying, lol. The codebase seems really terrible.
Overlapping aoe of curses is something we are familiar with because of how Impending Doom used to work in PoE1. It basically requires curse to expire in order to deal damage, so in PoE2 you have to curse a mob twice for it to proc (a monster in PoE2 can have only one curse active on it by default, second curse overwrites the first one, effectively expiring it). So for it to insta-proc you need to hit the mob with overlapping zone between two circles of a curse. Since Spell Cascade creates additional circles on the circumference of a middle one - the bigger the aoe, the bigger the overlapping zone, but circles are more far apart and also the non-overlapping zones of each circle are bigger (yes, if you hit them with the middle it doesn't proc). Bigger aoe potentially grants you ability to hit more mobs with ID at once, but gives you less control on how you hit the singular mob or a dense pack with a single curse use. More overlapping in the same sense means more ignite instances too, hence more energy. Good vid, enjoyed it.
@@Zax-dq5sr Impending Doom description says "supports Curse skills you cast yourself" so no. Also, Aura probably (not sure) is not counted as Curse anymore. But feel free to correct me when you test this properly.
I don't think this is meant to work, since the Cast on Ignite says "...you Ignite with HITS from skills.". Burning ground doesn't hit and I'm not sure if it is even meant to count as ignited by "you".
couple other bits of tech from watching jungroan's stream today and testing on an EOW invoker version. You can loop with a COI setup with a low level curse and another copy of burning inscription either as gemling or with the arbiter unique helm. This makes the mana sustain a bit harder as curses are expensive, but lets you use ailments. I'm running eow over all three ground effects for damage instead of comet, not really sure what's better but the crit weakness makes crit capping pretty easy. Also rising tempest is a really easy 40% more support - elemental invocation counts as all three elements.
@@Sylvarous it's not the curse creating the ground effect, it's burning inscription support. if you want two of the same supports in two different curses, you need to use arbiter helmet or be a gemling.
Was theorycrafting a similar build, with instant expiry of the curses with cursed ground triggering impending doom and burning inscription. Fairly new to the game so didn't know you needed to consume the ignite before reapplying it to actually get the energy from it. Curse on ignite drain ailments is needed then it seems, kind of bummed because that means you can't use any of the other aiments. And yes invocated efficiency seems like a busted node with this combo. Another note, I think it would be better to use the lowest level curse enfeeble to safe some mana. As the damage scaling doesn't really depend on the level of the curse and your curse doesn't truly activate on the enemy so I think it doesn't matter which curse you use.
Actually I did see this support elemental discharge, which consumes freeze, shock and ignite and deels damage based on yoru int on top of it for each. So if you somehow manage to apply shock+ignite in a single cast you can double down the energy you gain for your elemental invocations.
To be honest cast on crit with contagion and Ed as the 1 spell you cast with high crit wildshards chain and snakebite ring cast speed unleash, and the nodes for multiple projectiles and 1 curse you destroy everything insta basically
A descent loot filter would help you out alot highlighting important items. Everything looked so bland, realised its the lootfilter thats missing. Realy cool build, dident even know the fore orbs existed 😆
Luv to see that mofo getting a meltdown XDD I use to luv playing essence drain in POE1, but I just simply got dragged into the abyss of Ice Strike Monkey in POE2 :)
Would like to see your take on a +24 weapon skill point Witchhunter. Very flexible. If you need a starting point, I've mocked up a tree for Tornado Shot Bow + Rapid Shot Crossbow swap
I'm pretty sure tornado shot is bugged/not working as intended because the projectiles should be coming out in a random 360 degree pattern, but instead what happens is they all come out in the exact same pattern. Once GGG fixes this tornado shot will be CRAZY good
dont forget... you can get other skills via the those unique diamonds.. megalamaniac jewels or whatever they are called.. - you can get any pass skills in the tree.. you just have to find it.
Small correction: Jousis would like this more =D Feedback Loops are awesome in any PoE, but GGG usually doesn't enjoy having these unlimited in the game, so hopefully it will not be completely deleted, but adjusted to "fit" in. In the same way, I hope GGG will not nerf crazy interactions like Spore Pods with Slams or Lightning Rod with many lightning skills, but instead just add Internal Cooldowns, limiting how often the interaction can happen per second. edit: awesome video by the way, great explanations
@@KokoHekmatyarr That should go without saying, Internal Cooldowns have no meaning if Temporalis affects them the way it currently does (removing them entirely). By the way, if GGG want Temporalis to be good but not as broken, how about making it not reduce CD's, but increase CD Recovery Rate by an absurd amount? Like 100-400% inc. CD Recovery Rate or something?
Impending doom scales off archmage if you want to mess around with that. However, obviously it would shock everything so that might me an issue with breaking the loop.
On Top of all of it, you might wanna try to use on an Enemy hit : Incinaration the 8th stack leave burning ground, and also top-up solar orb on top of the boss, this is what i'm already using to trigger infinite Comet, over all the spirit needed
Great video. Thanks.nHow can you have more than one gem used please, say 3 elemental invocation or ember fuse…? I thought gem legionnaire was needed and gave 2?
Nice build is there any mature difference between using Enfeeble or Flammability other than that the one is more tanky (dmg reduce) and the other is doing some dmg? Or do i miss an important mechanic?
Hahaha I was actually considering making this build as a video yesterday cause I’ve been playing it for a week+ now. Just too scary to start content creation It also looks identical to a build I’ve been explaining to people for 2 days now and made a post on it on mobalytics. But neat fun to see others find out how op burning inscription is
I’ll also explain why burning inscription works the way it does to proc ignite so much. Each time cursed ground is placed and expires it places down a new burning inscription. This does not overwrite previous burning inscriptions. Each burning inscription restarts ignite on an enemy. This means for each stacked burning inscription it’s a new ignite stack on the enemy. You can really feel this when you’re bossing and you prep 5 stacks in the ground before the boss even spawns. It will instantly proc a stream of comets. I’ve also been theory crafting it a bit further since the burning inscription ignite and the impending doom supports both scale off mana I’m thinking that if you mana stack enough this build could replace storm weaver spark mana stacking for sheer instant damage. The ignite magnitude increases with your mana and spell damage. The impending doom also does. Comet is costly but will be sustainable with a ton of mana due to it resulting in a ton of mana regen. Just too poor rn, don’t got the 150 dive needed for those two rings
To push it even further you can and even more insane loop going with fireball as one of the CoI skills since for some reason it also counts as an ignite reapply
Maybe I‘m missing something here, but why do we have elemental invocation if it‘s not a direct trigger??? I still have to press two buttons for some ember fusilade with 6 projectiles and no supports. What‘s the meaning behind it?
You want to avoid causing ailments. That way you only drain the ignite ailment, causing many ignites to happen, quickly building your energy for cast on ignite skills
I feel fairly certain, that if you used a +3-4 lvl wand with "gain as" mods it would give you much better dps. I run a similar setup and found that to be the case :)
Hi! can't understand the main thing: for example, I've proc COI after lots of curses and finaly hitted enemy with Essence Drain. Got some energy for new COI, but it's not enough to proc it, How can I create the loop?
1) Lv3 Enfeeble with 3 sockets is sufficient to start using impending doom in campaign till you get 60 spirit (rares and bosses still won't get melted at this point, but clear speed is decent enough for early game) 2) Once you get 60 spirit and are able to equip Elemental Invocation with Invocated Efficiency, slap on Burning Inscription (needs 1 greater jeweler's orb to be used on the curse) and ED 3) Steamroll till endgame Optional) Change out Lv3 Enfeeble with Lv9 Despair (still needs same number of sockets) for extra damage Notable "cheap" uniques to smooth out leveling process: A) Ghostwrithe B) Blackflame amethyst ring C) Ming's heart D) Saffell's frame E) Everlasting gaze
im playing jungroan's build but there is no need to take away the ignite from elemental invocation. elemental invocation gets reapplied as long as they stand on burning ground. i used 2 elemental invocation, one with lvl 3 ember fussilade, one with lvl 1 spark. this then fuels all the cast on ignites. so whatever you did is kinda similar, but is taking away ignite really helping you at all?
Hm, we have a doggo in the ascendancy that ignites all the enemies near it (without even hit). Why we use curse with burning ground instead? Is it more reliable source of ignites?
This is bugged, right? Cast on ignite shouldn't gain energy from burning ground. It only gains energy from hits that ignite, not things like burning ground, flame wall, etc.
I use this with incinerate using blackflame ring. I am scaling the ignite as chaos dmg and using essence drain in cast on ignite as my source of wither. I use a lvl 4 (lowest lvl) essence drain with chain to propagate wither in packs. Honestly, mana stacking burning inscription is probably stronger.
pog idea. This is strong so theres lots of ways to go with it. Mana stacking to increase the ignite damage is whats important to me since it will generate more energy. Is there such a thing as generating too much energy? im not sure
this is a super cool idea, yoinking it edit: after looking up the unique, it seems my own comment was misremembering the unique, and was also talking about it's (blackflame's) interactions! do you happen to know if the blackflame ignite gets transferred via contagion since it's chaos now?
@@leafgreenbeast It does not unfortunately but it also has a big reduced duration so it wouldn't last anyways. Blackflame is best on burning ground instead of basic ignite. You scale it with wither and despair.
@iqbalfirdhan2846 nit exactly sure. I have everything going tuned down and there's a setting that dynamically turns down the particle effects to hit your target frame rate. Forget what it's called
Does Knockback support on essence drain also build up energy faster? I've noticed mobs running through burning ground builds up energy really fast so it might help with clear
When I did this, the amount of energy that Essence Drain could get is very low. I have Invoker with meta skills gaing more energy node, and got all of the meta gems gain energy nodes on skill tree. My casts speed is low, would that be detrimental for the loop? What else could I be missing? I'm not stacking mana but currently triggering inscriptions with Bone Blast. I don't have some of the uniques here but they are increasing damage, so they wouldn't effect sustain of the loop. Edit: I found the issue. The amount of energy gained is dependent on how much ignite damage you deal. I don't have max mana or ignite magnitude, so my energy gain is very low. Invoker is a terrible ascendancy for this build.
Can be done on Invoker (I did), only need to build as mana stacker using MoM/EB combo (basically spellcaster builds). You can also gain 2x 10% damage as cold/lightning and get some free spirit using ES chest to boot from ascendancy.
I use a similar build but use it on Acolyte of Chayula, I use the Blackflamme so my burning ground Ignite become Chaos Damage also use Despair instead of Flammability so my burning ground and essence drain deal further more damage. I take Chaos Wheel on tree obviously.
I made a low budget version. It's tricky though and a few more skills you have to cast yourself. You need a lot of spirit gems. To get several cast on ignite skills and elemental invocation skill gems. You'll need a sceptre with like 200 spirit which isn't too hard to come by. I've found a few and crafted too. An amulet or body armor with spirit if you're lucky. The unique shield is less than 1 exalted on the market. I wasn't able to switch until I hit 70. It uses Eldritch Battery and that is a passive you don't want early on. Unless you are somehow hitting over 3,000 mana before level 70(you can path to it and refund if it doesn't stack your mana above 3k)
Pretty sure next on the chopping block is equipping multiple same gems. I honestly don't get why they did it to supports and forgot about all the other stuff lol. But yea, those looping builds are always crazy satisfying.
i think it is intended to be able to use multiple spirit gems of same quality. the limiter they put is Spirit cost. it is just that right now. classes with spirit as their ascension are kinda too strong. Invoker and Infernalist are extremely popular classes to choose because you can abuse their spirit ascension in their kit for builds like this. As a result, classes with Spirit in their Aacension bonus are too strong at using spirit skills but classes with 0 spirit are very weak. I think they need better balance this where ascension bonuses give A LOT LESS spirit but classes without spirit have more base spirit because a huge part of spirit system in the game is lock-out for all classes because they can't simply can't get any spirit outside of sacraficing armor piece+amulet piece with spirit to have sub-optimal stats.
Wow, great job! I wonder how to level with this, how low spirit can you have to start....i see you have like 600 wow... wish i could make wthis with less spirit, cuz im on hardcore, not alot of items available :)
@@hyperlokgaming1859 it doesn't work even though it deceptively seems like it would because you can still slot it. You can test it yourself by slotting in a similar gem called "arcane surge" into a trigger set up since it has the same line of "spells that you cast yourself." If you can see the buff on your buff bar at any point and have no other sources of arcane surge then it would be working but unfortunately it never appears no matter how much mana you spend. Could be 1 or the other supports is just bugged or it could be that every content creator who would disagree is wrong. Triggered skills are not considered to be "cast by yourself" they are considered triggered. That line also serves a similar purpose in the case of minions and proxies.
@@maxd.9237 you dont really need reserving for spirit (it only give us 30 spirit tho) but if u want go demon, you need reduce max life and stack ES with passive nodes and equipment, i though about that, need to check if we can fit it here
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THIS BUILD STILL WORKS!!! If you hear about burning inscription getting nerfed there was something crazier you could do that got nerfed ua-cam.com/video/4iYc2YhL7rE/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Doth
Ignite magnitude on jewels is pog. Tested it and went from like 192 energy on Elemental Invocation to 288 with my 56% magnitude between my 2 jewels and adorned. Also I though my flammability curse would increase the amount of energy I get sometimes, but it doesn't. Not sure what curse is best, but I want to save frostbite for bosses since the curse that runs the combo is only spottily applied.
by the way, Considered Casting shouldn't work with triggered skills (now only works if you cast the skill yourself)
edit1: Arcane Blossom notable on the passive tree is also pretty strong for MoM manastacking (15%inc. mana recovery rate, doesn't increase amount but shortens the time to get mana from all managain mechanics, like mana regen or others)
edit2: Faster Curse Activation doesn't really matter with Cursed Ground + spell cascade bypassing the wait altogether, as you mentioned, so points spend solely for that are not worth it
I would just run a lowest level possible enfeeble (lowest level curse) to keep mana costs minimal. Inscription is the only part that matters anyways.
@sagi3933 good tips. Someone mentioned the thing about considered casting but it still makes the dps numbers go up
You can get both "Notables in Radius also grant %increase Ignite Magnitude" and "Notables in radius also grant Meta Skills gain %increased energy" on time lost jewels. A time lost jewel with Medium Radius can be placed in the top center of the tree to hit Master of Hexes, as well as Endless Blizzard and Glaciation which would increase your Comet substantially (and you could also run Cold Exposure and Strip Away on your Comet Link in a crit build). You can also fit a time lost jewel with small radius in the socket near True Strike, and pick up Deep Trance to ease mana pressure and have another 3 notable time lost jewel like this (For the Jugular, True Strike, and Deep Trance).
@@Doth_ Maybe GGG intended to only make Considered Casting not affect Minions and such, so it still works on trigger/meta skills? I was certain "Spells you cast yourself" means literal self-casting, which in my PoE 1 brain means it cannot affect triggered skills. But this is PoE 2, and honestly I wouldn't mind this working, we already kinda lack in Support Gem options :D
At the very least, if the tooltip says it affects damage significantly, it is worth testing on something like a boss (maybe Xesht) with and without the Considered Casting on, would be relevant info to have for everyone :P
Cast On Ignite says it builds energy off ignites from *hitting* and I'm pretty sure burning ground isn't a hit. I'm 99.9% sure this is a bug. For example, the shocked ground from lightning warp does not fuel Cast On shock.
Agree. Ignite from Flame Wall does not gain energy to COI as it's not from a hit, and the ignite from ignited ground should also be treated the same.
read what burning inscription is doing
Ignite from Flame Wall did give energy before, and GGG fixed it. They probably overlooked this one cuz not many people use burning inscription.
I just wonder what kind of spaghetti code they have to have to fix each skill individually. lol
its, but you need increase your shock chance and its just much harder to shock enemies than ignite cause shock its debuf rather damage over time
@@andrewlee5471some mtx (king of aradun or smth) disabled cast on step from corpsewade, because you counted as flying, lol. The codebase seems really terrible.
Amazing, well done!
You can increase your AOE in general then use concentrated effect on your curse to let that stay small, that way your comets hit more than one thing
This community just LOVES to invent new definitions for words. Proc and trigger especially
Overlapping aoe of curses is something we are familiar with because of how Impending Doom used to work in PoE1. It basically requires curse to expire in order to deal damage, so in PoE2 you have to curse a mob twice for it to proc (a monster in PoE2 can have only one curse active on it by default, second curse overwrites the first one, effectively expiring it). So for it to insta-proc you need to hit the mob with overlapping zone between two circles of a curse. Since Spell Cascade creates additional circles on the circumference of a middle one - the bigger the aoe, the bigger the overlapping zone, but circles are more far apart and also the non-overlapping zones of each circle are bigger (yes, if you hit them with the middle it doesn't proc). Bigger aoe potentially grants you ability to hit more mobs with ID at once, but gives you less control on how you hit the singular mob or a dense pack with a single curse use. More overlapping in the same sense means more ignite instances too, hence more energy.
Good vid, enjoyed it.
if i have one curse as an aura, then the other curses that i cast would be expiring immediately or not?
@@Zax-dq5sr Impending Doom description says "supports Curse skills you cast yourself" so no. Also, Aura probably (not sure) is not counted as Curse anymore. But feel free to correct me when you test this properly.
The antithesis to a quin build
Wow, awesome build doth! and its pretty clean on the screen xD, btw the better part, NO DEMONIC FORM
Drain elements is great tech, great explanation too 🔥good shit brother
its crazy tech. Legend who discovered it wanted to remain anonymous. and thanks
@@Doth_I found the guy a couple days ago. GPBuilder.
So.... you're Curse-ing enemies to burn forever? Sounds thematically correct for the Witch.
I don't think this is meant to work, since the Cast on Ignite says "...you Ignite with HITS from skills.". Burning ground doesn't hit and I'm not sure if it is even meant to count as ignited by "you".
I'm pretty sure that there is a unique helmet that ignites all in your presence. It might be worth considering.
Cast on ignite scales with magnitude of ignite dealt. The helmet only does 100 ignite.
Nice, I was just looking at meta skills on my witch at act 3! Good to know this works with cast on ignite.
its obviously bugged interaction that will get fixed soon >-< dont build around it starting now >-
That's cool man, you feature cool builds.
couple other bits of tech from watching jungroan's stream today and testing on an EOW invoker version. You can loop with a COI setup with a low level curse and another copy of burning inscription either as gemling or with the arbiter unique helm. This makes the mana sustain a bit harder as curses are expensive, but lets you use ailments. I'm running eow over all three ground effects for damage instead of comet, not really sure what's better but the crit weakness makes crit capping pretty easy. Also rising tempest is a really easy 40% more support - elemental invocation counts as all three elements.
Does not need to be gemling can simply put a curse on cast on crit also
Someone try unique helmet that ignite enemies with this technique?
i wonder if there is tech you can use to spam ignite on Invoker to shock enemies so you can utilize mana remnants shock effect to gain infinity mana.
@@Sylvarous it's not the curse creating the ground effect, it's burning inscription support. if you want two of the same supports in two different curses, you need to use arbiter helmet or be a gemling.
How would Blackflame Ring interact with this you think?
I would like to know as well.
Would be interesting to see how firestorm would perform in lieu of Comet as it also consumes ignites - at least worth a test
There's a limit to firestorm cast
I'm not here for the build or whatsoever, I'm here for the TV behind him. Nostalgic!
Was theorycrafting a similar build, with instant expiry of the curses with cursed ground triggering impending doom and burning inscription.
Fairly new to the game so didn't know you needed to consume the ignite before reapplying it to actually get the energy from it. Curse on ignite drain ailments is needed then it seems, kind of bummed because that means you can't use any of the other aiments.
And yes invocated efficiency seems like a busted node with this combo.
Another note, I think it would be better to use the lowest level curse enfeeble to safe some mana. As the damage scaling doesn't really depend on the level of the curse and your curse doesn't truly activate on the enemy so I think it doesn't matter which curse you use.
Actually I did see this support elemental discharge, which consumes freeze, shock and ignite and deels damage based on yoru int on top of it for each.
So if you somehow manage to apply shock+ignite in a single cast you can double down the energy you gain for your elemental invocations.
makes me wonder does consuming ailments makes them imediately susceptible to it again even freeze
what about ventors gambles for more spirit stacking?
To be honest cast on crit with contagion and Ed as the 1 spell you cast with high crit wildshards chain and snakebite ring cast speed unleash, and the nodes for multiple projectiles and 1 curse you destroy everything insta basically
Great thinking. Congrats!
A descent loot filter would help you out alot highlighting important items. Everything looked so bland, realised its the lootfilter thats missing.
Realy cool build, dident even know the fore orbs existed 😆
Luv to see that mofo getting a meltdown XDD I use to luv playing essence drain in POE1, but I just simply got dragged into the abyss of Ice Strike Monkey in POE2 :)
Wouldn't Birth of Fury boots work well with this build?
holy moly this looks so cool !
Would like to see your take on a +24 weapon skill point Witchhunter. Very flexible. If you need a starting point, I've mocked up a tree for Tornado Shot Bow + Rapid Shot Crossbow swap
i was looking at witchhunter but then someone showed me this tech XD i have yet to get off infernalist
I'm pretty sure tornado shot is bugged/not working as intended because the projectiles should be coming out in a random 360 degree pattern, but instead what happens is they all come out in the exact same pattern. Once GGG fixes this tornado shot will be CRAZY good
dont forget... you can get other skills via the those unique diamonds.. megalamaniac jewels or whatever they are called.. - you can get any pass skills in the tree.. you just have to find it.
And be rich enough
People really need to educate themselves what "meta" actually means before using it.
do you count as always low life? i thought you didnt?
im like 99% sure in poe it did not.
Small correction: Jousis would like this more =D
Feedback Loops are awesome in any PoE, but GGG usually doesn't enjoy having these unlimited in the game, so hopefully it will not be completely deleted, but adjusted to "fit" in. In the same way, I hope GGG will not nerf crazy interactions like Spore Pods with Slams or Lightning Rod with many lightning skills, but instead just add Internal Cooldowns, limiting how often the interaction can happen per second.
edit: awesome video by the way, great explanations
They need to make Temporalis not affect internal cooldowns first, or that would just make it even more meta.
@@KokoHekmatyarr That should go without saying, Internal Cooldowns have no meaning if Temporalis affects them the way it currently does (removing them entirely).
By the way, if GGG want Temporalis to be good but not as broken, how about making it not reduce CD's, but increase CD Recovery Rate by an absurd amount? Like 100-400% inc. CD Recovery Rate or something?
Impending doom scales off archmage if you want to mess around with that. However, obviously it would shock everything so that might me an issue with breaking the loop.
I love those interactions. Gj
On Top of all of it, you might wanna try to use on an Enemy hit : Incinaration the 8th stack leave burning ground, and also top-up solar orb on top of the boss, this is what i'm already using to trigger infinite Comet, over all the spirit needed
Great video. Thanks.nHow can you have more than one gem used please, say 3 elemental invocation or ember fuse…? I thought gem legionnaire was needed and gave 2?
did you try to mix your build with doryani's prototype and 2 ventor ring with minus lightning res ?
Nice build is there any mature difference between using Enfeeble or Flammability other than that the one is more tanky (dmg reduce) and the other is doing some dmg? Or do i miss an important mechanic?
What level can you start this at?
Hahaha I was actually considering making this build as a video yesterday cause I’ve been playing it for a week+ now. Just too scary to start content creation
It also looks identical to a build I’ve been explaining to people for 2 days now and made a post on it on mobalytics. But neat fun to see others find out how op burning inscription is
I’ll also explain why burning inscription works the way it does to proc ignite so much. Each time cursed ground is placed and expires it places down a new burning inscription. This does not overwrite previous burning inscriptions. Each burning inscription restarts ignite on an enemy. This means for each stacked burning inscription it’s a new ignite stack on the enemy.
You can really feel this when you’re bossing and you prep 5 stacks in the ground before the boss even spawns. It will instantly proc a stream of comets.
I’ve also been theory crafting it a bit further since the burning inscription ignite and the impending doom supports both scale off mana I’m thinking that if you mana stack enough this build could replace storm weaver spark mana stacking for sheer instant damage. The ignite magnitude increases with your mana and spell damage. The impending doom also does. Comet is costly but will be sustainable with a ton of mana due to it resulting in a ton of mana regen.
Just too poor rn, don’t got the 150 dive needed for those two rings
To push it even further you can and even more insane loop going with fireball as one of the CoI skills since for some reason it also counts as an ignite reapply
(If you want the absolute most ridiculous damage version of CoI loop, demon form is the way to go)
Tried this today.. but im not getting enough energy to start the loop. Just not enough to get much comets 😢
@ increase ignite magnitude or mana
I feel like contagion needs to be here somehow after looking at that breach run
How did you remove the effects of the comet explosion?
I would like to know too because I have a potato pc.
Since you still have 253 extra spirit you could add minions in for cannon fodder that way you don't have to worry as much about getting hit.
Maybe I‘m missing something here, but why do we have elemental invocation if it‘s not a direct trigger??? I still have to press two buttons for some ember fusilade with 6 projectiles and no supports. What‘s the meaning behind it?
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@ thank you very much!
am i missing something, but when i try this im out of mana in 2 seconds and no comets get cast
is your maxroll uptodate ?? its so diff to this
Cool tech with the essence drain removing ignite.
what about the chaotic freeze and artic armour to add to the comet
You want to avoid causing ailments. That way you only drain the ignite ailment, causing many ignites to happen, quickly building your energy for cast on ignite skills
Earned my sub
would this work with incinerate instead of the flamability from cursed ground?
wouldnt be a teleporter be better with cast on shock?
How do you sustain the mana cost of comets? Your mana doesnt even move while they keep raining down.
Whats the leveling for this look like or is it more a switch to build once you get to maps 😊
Is doom blast from impending doom also a trigger skill?
At which point can i go with this build ? Im level 50 and playing a minion srs build for leveling
Is the invocation holding down issue due to your keyboard ghosting?
I feel fairly certain, that if you used a +3-4 lvl wand with "gain as" mods it would give you much better dps. I run a similar setup and found that to be the case :)
How much dps u got on comet?
I tried doing this with shocked ground, but it wouldn't work
Hi! can't understand the main thing: for example, I've proc COI after lots of curses and finaly hitted enemy with Essence Drain. Got some energy for new COI, but it's not enough to proc it, How can I create the loop?
Great build idea
How do you level this one, it seems way too interesting, first "chaos" build i've found.
1) Lv3 Enfeeble with 3 sockets is sufficient to start using impending doom in campaign till you get 60 spirit (rares and bosses still won't get melted at this point, but clear speed is decent enough for early game)
2) Once you get 60 spirit and are able to equip Elemental Invocation with Invocated Efficiency, slap on Burning Inscription (needs 1 greater jeweler's orb to be used on the curse) and ED
3) Steamroll till endgame
Optional) Change out Lv3 Enfeeble with Lv9 Despair (still needs same number of sockets) for extra damage
Notable "cheap" uniques to smooth out leveling process:
A) Ghostwrithe
B) Blackflame amethyst ring
C) Ming's heart
D) Saffell's frame
E) Everlasting gaze
Wait! What about monks shocked ground?
im playing jungroan's build but there is no need to take away the ignite from elemental invocation. elemental invocation gets reapplied as long as they stand on burning ground. i used 2 elemental invocation, one with lvl 3 ember fussilade, one with lvl 1 spark.
this then fuels all the cast on ignites.
so whatever you did is kinda similar, but is taking away ignite really helping you at all?
Hm, we have a doggo in the ascendancy that ignites all the enemies near it (without even hit).
Why we use curse with burning ground instead? Is it more reliable source of ignites?
Doesnt work... used to work on flame wall too before they patched it
Do you think this build would work with the other ascension, bloo mage?
how good would firestorm be instead of ember fusillade?
doth ahve you seen the barrier invocation build with infinite comet?
yeah. theres one where the dudes whole passive tree is increased flask effects and i love it
Great work! Lets ger some grey hair on devs!
This is bugged, right? Cast on ignite shouldn't gain energy from burning ground. It only gains energy from hits that ignite, not things like burning ground, flame wall, etc.
burning ground do fire hits, which contributes to ignite chance and magnitude
Yes it is they patched flame wall already
I use this with incinerate using blackflame ring. I am scaling the ignite as chaos dmg and using essence drain in cast on ignite as my source of wither. I use a lvl 4 (lowest lvl) essence drain with chain to propagate wither in packs.
Honestly, mana stacking burning inscription is probably stronger.
pog idea. This is strong so theres lots of ways to go with it. Mana stacking to increase the ignite damage is whats important to me since it will generate more energy. Is there such a thing as generating too much energy? im not sure
this is a super cool idea, yoinking it
edit: after looking up the unique, it seems my own comment was misremembering the unique, and was also talking about it's (blackflame's) interactions! do you happen to know if the blackflame ignite gets transferred via contagion since it's chaos now?
@@leafgreenbeast It does not unfortunately but it also has a big reduced duration so it wouldn't last anyways. Blackflame is best on burning ground instead of basic ignite. You scale it with wither and despair.
@@kingfisher1638 i see, good to know!
Would frostbite instead of fussilage work? But the cost is a bit much i think
Does he have cast on ignite twice? Can you do that?
Does contagion work with ED on auto activation, like it also auto activates? IF u have less dmg that might be nice? dunno if it works
how did u lower the graphic on the comet? it looks visually better and clean? anyone know?
@iqbalfirdhan2846 nit exactly sure. I have everything going tuned down and there's a setting that dynamically turns down the particle effects to hit your target frame rate. Forget what it's called
it's call Dynamic Culling, u can find it in graphics setting and it's very good
Does Knockback support on essence drain also build up energy faster? I've noticed mobs running through burning ground builds up energy really fast so it might help with clear
When I did this, the amount of energy that Essence Drain could get is very low. I have Invoker with meta skills gaing more energy node, and got all of the meta gems gain energy nodes on skill tree. My casts speed is low, would that be detrimental for the loop? What else could I be missing?
I'm not stacking mana but currently triggering inscriptions with Bone Blast. I don't have some of the uniques here but they are increasing damage, so they wouldn't effect sustain of the loop.
Edit: I found the issue. The amount of energy gained is dependent on how much ignite damage you deal. I don't have max mana or ignite magnitude, so my energy gain is very low. Invoker is a terrible ascendancy for this build.
Can be done on Invoker (I did), only need to build as mana stacker using MoM/EB combo (basically spellcaster builds). You can also gain 2x 10% damage as cold/lightning and get some free spirit using ES chest to boot from ascendancy.
I use a similar build but use it on Acolyte of Chayula, I use the Blackflamme so my burning ground Ignite become Chaos Damage also use Despair instead of Flammability so my burning ground and essence drain deal further more damage. I take Chaos Wheel on tree obviously.
Damn, looks pretty insane. Hopefuly ggg devs are not watching
what a beast build man. oh im talking about that setup in the backround
Would this build be viable for stormweaver?
yeah its a very general combo. Lots of ways to make it work im sure. It will leave you some room for some creativity :)
@@Doth_thanks so much you
I see that you have 253 spirit left. What's the point on having Beidat's Will and not Loyal Hellhound, that gives you survivability?
for low life
Creative 👌
How come you have little to no mana cost?
The look after "efficient "
Is there any way as "low budget" or lower level to start this build?
I made a low budget version. It's tricky though and a few more skills you have to cast yourself. You need a lot of spirit gems. To get several cast on ignite skills and elemental invocation skill gems. You'll need a sceptre with like 200 spirit which isn't too hard to come by. I've found a few and crafted too. An amulet or body armor with spirit if you're lucky. The unique shield is less than 1 exalted on the market. I wasn't able to switch until I hit 70. It uses Eldritch Battery and that is a passive you don't want early on. Unless you are somehow hitting over 3,000 mana before level 70(you can path to it and refund if it doesn't stack your mana above 3k)
I tried doing something like this with drain ailments and flame wall but it doesn’t work. I didn’t think to use burning inscription, good work
It worked before but they already patched flame wall
so thats what jungroan was playing. Saw him to some weird shit with bells and frostwall and EOW and COI. Guessing it was burning inscription COI
can stormweaver do this?
Pretty sure next on the chopping block is equipping multiple same gems. I honestly don't get why they did it to supports and forgot about all the other stuff lol.
But yea, those looping builds are always crazy satisfying.
i think it is intended to be able to use multiple spirit gems of same quality. the limiter they put is Spirit cost. it is just that right now. classes with spirit as their ascension are kinda too strong. Invoker and Infernalist are extremely popular classes to choose because you can abuse their spirit ascension in their kit for builds like this. As a result, classes with Spirit in their Aacension bonus are too strong at using spirit skills but classes with 0 spirit are very weak.
I think they need better balance this where ascension bonuses give A LOT LESS spirit but classes without spirit have more base spirit because a huge part of spirit system in the game is lock-out for all classes because they can't simply can't get any spirit outside of sacraficing armor piece+amulet piece with spirit to have sub-optimal stats.
nice build
Boss doesn't die in 0.00001 seconds, slow build fits 3G vision
u still got 150 spirit left , what if u use archmage on this , and ditch the sceptre for a real wand?
your mana regen is out the window with archmage cause you're now making your 5 mana ember fusillades cost over 200 mana each.
how much dps u have on comet ?
considered casting specifically says it supports spells you cast yourself I dont think it works in triggers.
Blackflame amethyst ring would round out everything once they fix it, turning all your ignites into chaos damage for more dps
Does blackflame not work currently?
the conversion is after damage step. so you don't get bonus damage. you only get bonus dmg if you up the fire damage stat.
Why no archmage? I mean your damage is already overkill but more is better :)
I think he'll run out of mana with the amount of spells being used.
Wow, great job! I wonder how to level with this, how low spirit can you have to start....i see you have like 600 wow... wish i could make wthis with less spirit, cuz im on hardcore, not alot of items available :)
you just start with burning inscription and COI. then add in more as you get it
Amaterasu build😮
Considered casting requires you to use the skill yourself to gain a damage bonus
every Cast on build by every content creator would beg to differ...plus tech you are casting it by way of achieving the reqs for it to cast.
@@hyperlokgaming1859 it doesn't work even though it deceptively seems like it would because you can still slot it. You can test it yourself by slotting in a similar gem called "arcane surge" into a trigger set up since it has the same line of "spells that you cast yourself." If you can see the buff on your buff bar at any point and have no other sources of arcane surge then it would be working but unfortunately it never appears no matter how much mana you spend. Could be 1 or the other supports is just bugged or it could be that every content creator who would disagree is wrong.
Triggered skills are not considered to be "cast by yourself" they are considered triggered. That line also serves a similar purpose in the case of minions and proxies.
im full specced into demon form. Think this could work in that?
no, you need to spec into life for stacking spirit, you cant sustain demon form for long with 2k+ hp
@@maxd.9237 you dont really need reserving for spirit (it only give us 30 spirit tho) but if u want go demon, you need reduce max life and stack ES with passive nodes and equipment, i though about that, need to check if we can fit it here
@@maxd.9237 yes he can. with CI bug :D
From my testing, since you have no mana, Burning Inscription does no damage and so doesn't ignite at all