Just saw some of your older videos and it is absolutely insane how much your English has improved! Love your content, it has helped me a great deal over the years, keep up the good work!
What makes Lin Shidong's BH stroke so incredibly effective and powerful is his incredible speed, taking the ball early, his super bendy wrist action and powering right through the ball, like a flat hit. One thing's for sure, he's a monster 👾 @ 16. Watch out world.
Coach, excellent observation! Lin Shidong's philosophy is truly impressive. His "Mantis" style is essential and direct, maximizing force without any wasted movement. This approach can be extremely beneficial in managing energy levels throughout a match, making it a very effective strategy.
Okay, this tennis backhand tutorial is great and all, but I tried it and ended up hitting the ball into a different zip code! Time to call NASA, I'm serving for space exploration now! 🚀🎾 😄
Lin's inherent skills, little to do with equipment,... unless it's average or sub quality. Darko Jorgic has a rocket like back hand n he uses Tibhar. Equipment is Nothing without skills. 😉..
I honestly learned my bh from just looking at one single lin shidong video, just copied it in the following training sessions and it resonated right away.
It looks like a really hard flat hit, hitting the tip of the bat....most likely with super hard rubber. Seems as fast as a full body FH kill shot. Pretty amazing.
He uses a Dignics 09c a super slow softer Rubber developed by Timo Boll focusing on Spin not Speed. He has a good video of it on his Channels where he gives you a real in depth Analysis of it on every stroke. Lin is strong so he doesnt need a fast Rubber to reach max speeds of Table Tennis which lie around 70 mph for any Human being.
@@ajoydas-Watch-It super slow? soft rubber? wtf, you have no idea what you are talking about. It's not especially fast, but it has a lot of potential. and definitely not soft, please
@@chrh1513 Potential is up to the Player and who said it was soft? Learn to read Son, I said Softer there is a difference. Softer than Hard or Xtra Hard for sure and yes its Slow. The Dignics 09c has 44 degree Hardness plain fact and feels soft compared to a DNA Plat XH 52.5 hardness to name one of many harder Rubbers out there. Even the Dignics 05 comes in at 50 degree hardness just to give you some numbers from the same line and company making it harder than the Dignics 09c. So obviously its a softer slower rubber if you like it or not. I care less and yes I know WTF im talking about since I own way to many blades, won a few bavarian state titels and actually played Timo Boll himself who develeoped the 09c. What are your Credentials? Local Club Player who played a handfull of woods and rubbers? Cheers Lad.
The problems of Felix as a natural penholder is the weak backhand defense. Often when it comes to dealing strong and very fast attacks of Lin Shidong, depends on the spins and depths of his BH flicks and loops, it would be better to take a half-step or even a full step back to give himself more time. In this match, LIn was hitting his BH right to his body or away from him in the opposite wing. Therefore, even earlier preparation would be vital to get his position and footwork exactly in the optimal position. Then judging with Lin's BH arc and trajectory, finding the right distance and height to loop back with power. Since those BHs from Lin was too powerful and spins to block or chop block. Therefore, using the RPB loops at distance would be needed to counter properly. Or else, Felix can pivot his foot and use a forceful forehand loop or drive on his off-wing. The key is NOT to return the ball onto his LIn''s strong BH side but to line the loop or drive down the line on his forehand side. This will provide two important aspects: 1. Lin has to move sideways when it is unexpected. If Felix's drive is deep and far, then LIn has to backtrack further than he wanted to. 2. In sports, anything that is straight would be much faster than cross-court due to the distance being covered. In this case, Lin would have even less time to react. When your opponent has less time to respond and out of the position, this automatically creates the rally in Felix's favour to have more time to prepare. Lin would produce a less than quality shot to recover. Therefore, he has more time and more of the table to work with until he can dominate and winning the point out right. We can see the frustration of Felix in dealing with LIn's powerful backhand. Therefore, a timeout must be called to address this issue and resulting a change in Felix's tactics of play. Stay away from his BH side and carefully placing wide angle shots to make him move away from the table. The inexperience of Felix of unable to change his style of play was the reason why he continues to do the loop-to-loop rallies on LIn's BH, therefore a predictable finish as Felix's own lunch was eaten and spat out for the entire match. Felix is young and will learn. However, change of tactics is a key to a mental game for all Table Tennis players. He or she must have various players to dig out of difficult situations and not playing to the strength of the opponent.
@@antoncigur3727 I know. But here is the problem for the rest of the World. The PRC has the most comprehensive and grueling national team selection system. Here is how it works. Talents are spotted in the local levels as young as 5 years old to train in the table academy. These young kids are away from their parents, eat, trains and schooling there until the pyramid system passed to the next level in the city, then the provincial team, and finally, hand-picked to the National Team C levels at 15 years old at the Cadet Level, and going all the way to the Senior B and A team where the big stars are. Did you know that the biggest amateur tournament in the World is in the PRC? The annual tournament takes an entire year with over 1 million participants. With such a talented pool to choose from. Just about anyone in the PRC's provincial team can be easily ranked in the top 100 in the ITTF standings. This is why the PRC team is selective in choosing those in the national "B" and 'C'' team members to compete. Often they surprised by going all the way from the qualifying to the semi-finals, and sometimes even winning an ITTF tournament. This is why I am never surprised with the young Lin and other whom we never heard of. By the way, they play at the Chinese Elite Table Tennis League and often surprised the regular Chinese A team by beating them. It is just that those coverages are in Chinese and we hardly have the chance to watch them. Therefore, just think, how could any countries compete with the PRC team in both Men and the Women's teams?
Interesting analysis. Lin's forehand is also incredibly powerful and it's a concise stroke, although you might be right in saying that at least Felix will have a chance if he targets the wide forehand.
@@secretwang7475 they also state that Lin Yun Ju uses Dignics 09c on his forehand side. But when you look at videos of his recent tournament play you can see that this is not true. He uses Tenergy 05 hard. So the website is not a reliable source.
I feel like for the backhand stroke it’s sometimes better to go more through the ball and hit more flat than focusing on spin. Wenn I focus on spin I have a high rate of mistakes, if I just hit it flat it’s really easy for me to do very fast and precise shots with the backhand. I use Viscaria and 09c max on both sides
My friend went to china took some lessons with elite coaches. He says that this is the new style of backhand that they teach now. To open the blades face and if it is a top spin just hit the top of the ball. Allows to have less swing also transition between block and loop is easy as they start the same way. It is like forehand but from backhand side.
Lin backhand isn't hard it's extremely fast though his timing is perfect he hits the balls before the peak his sometimes he looks like a simple player to face but his, strokes, are quality we played them in Doubles whenever you attack to him his always in a good position to attack back and his anticipation is extrely good thus, saying this you really have to train lots of hours like they always do next generation of off the bounce backhands he makes it look easy so I believe in the, quality of the stroke to win the point he has many qualities and his, still very young and probably the next big thing ✌️
I think that this is not a real profound technical analysis.....data of arm speeds/ degrees of bending wrist/ forearm position/lenght of movement/ hip movement/ how does he moves exactly from fh to bh etc...and than compare with other players.....
For backhand power alone, he is even better than former greats, Zhangjike and Fanzhendong. It seems like he is unbeatable in backhand rally. But still to become best, he must improve his footwork and forehand. Fan zhen dong at 19 looked much more powerful bacause he was strong in both sides, with a wonderful footwork.
Lin's powerful BH was more forced like a slingshot, where ZJK has the best natural BH of all time. It was well judged, well balanced, well timed and classical, extremely pretty to watch.
I see no reason to overreact, stocky people with shorter arms have the optimal physiques to use center mass as anchor behind their already short snappy strokes, perfect for fast backhand surprises, classic example includes Ding Ning vs Mima Ito, both polar opposites of each other becasue of their physiques.
definitely not "the best place to learn table tennis" lmao. you barely gave an analysis, all you said was his compact strokes and use of wrist which is just straight common sense. instead of bringing up multiple videos from games can you at least try to be more in depth. I learn nothing from watching your videos
@@ncrean66 Harimoto did get more muscular and stronger, but no one knows how far he will go from here. So far, none of the many Japanese prodigies has become a world champion.
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Just saw some of your older videos and it is absolutely insane how much your English has improved! Love your content, it has helped me a great deal over the years, keep up the good work!
What makes Lin Shidong's BH stroke so incredibly effective and powerful is his incredible speed, taking the ball early, his super bendy wrist action and powering right through the ball, like a flat hit.
One thing's for sure, he's a monster 👾 @ 16.
Watch out world.
Lin Shidong superb technique: perfect timing and flexible backhand wrist
To me already the best BH I have ever seen
Coach, excellent observation! Lin Shidong's philosophy is truly impressive. His "Mantis" style is essential and direct, maximizing force without any wasted movement. This approach can be extremely beneficial in managing energy levels throughout a match, making it a very effective strategy.
Can you elaborate more about this mantis style?
Okay, this tennis backhand tutorial is great and all, but I tried it and ended up hitting the ball into a different zip code! Time to call NASA, I'm serving for space exploration now! 🚀🎾 😄
Lin's inherent skills, little to do with equipment,... unless it's average or sub quality. Darko Jorgic has a rocket like back hand n he uses Tibhar. Equipment is Nothing without skills. 😉..
Yes lin has very strong backhand likes zang jike,fanzendong
I honestly learned my bh from just looking at one single lin shidong video, just copied it in the following training sessions and it resonated right away.
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It looks like a really hard flat hit, hitting the tip of the bat....most likely with super hard rubber. Seems as fast as a full body FH kill shot. Pretty amazing.
He uses a Dignics 09c a super slow softer Rubber developed by Timo Boll focusing on Spin not Speed. He has a good video of it on his Channels where he gives you a real in depth Analysis of it on every stroke. Lin is strong so he doesnt need a fast Rubber to reach max speeds of Table Tennis which lie around 70 mph for any Human being.
@@ajoydas-Watch-It super slow? soft rubber? wtf, you have no idea what you are talking about. It's not especially fast, but it has a lot of potential. and definitely not soft, please
Not true, you can watch slow motion. The rubber is not faster than Dignic 64.
@@chrh1513 Potential is up to the Player and who said it was soft? Learn to read Son, I said Softer there is a difference. Softer than Hard or Xtra Hard for sure and yes its Slow. The Dignics 09c has 44 degree Hardness plain fact and feels soft compared to a DNA Plat XH 52.5 hardness to name one of many harder Rubbers out there. Even the Dignics 05 comes in at 50 degree hardness just to give you some numbers from the same line and company making it harder than the Dignics 09c. So obviously its a softer slower rubber if you like it or not. I care less and yes I know WTF im talking about since I own way to many blades, won a few bavarian state titels and actually played Timo Boll himself who develeoped the 09c. What are your Credentials? Local Club Player who played a handfull of woods and rubbers? Cheers Lad.
The problems of Felix as a natural penholder is the weak backhand defense. Often when it comes to dealing strong and very fast attacks of Lin Shidong, depends on the spins and depths of his BH flicks and loops, it would be better to take a half-step or even a full step back to give himself more time.
In this match, LIn was hitting his BH right to his body or away from him in the opposite wing. Therefore, even earlier preparation would be vital to get his position and footwork exactly in the optimal position. Then judging with Lin's BH arc and trajectory, finding the right distance and height to loop back with power. Since those BHs from Lin was too powerful and spins to block or chop block.
Therefore, using the RPB loops at distance would be needed to counter properly. Or else, Felix can pivot his foot and use a forceful forehand loop or drive on his off-wing. The key is NOT to return the ball onto his LIn''s strong BH side but to line the loop or drive down the line on his forehand side.
This will provide two important aspects: 1. Lin has to move sideways when it is unexpected. If Felix's drive is deep and far, then LIn has to backtrack further than he wanted to. 2. In sports, anything that is straight would be much faster than cross-court due to the distance being covered. In this case, Lin would have even less time to react. When your opponent has less time to respond and out of the position, this automatically creates the rally in Felix's favour to have more time to prepare. Lin would produce a less than quality shot to recover. Therefore, he has more time and more of the table to work with until he can dominate and winning the point out right.
We can see the frustration of Felix in dealing with LIn's powerful backhand. Therefore, a timeout must be called to address this issue and resulting a change in Felix's tactics of play. Stay away from his BH side and carefully placing wide angle shots to make him move away from the table. The inexperience of Felix of unable to change his style of play was the reason why he continues to do the loop-to-loop rallies on LIn's BH, therefore a predictable finish as Felix's own lunch was eaten and spat out for the entire match.
Felix is young and will learn. However, change of tactics is a key to a mental game for all Table Tennis players. He or she must have various players to dig out of difficult situations and not playing to the strength of the opponent.
The French man got literally destroyed, annihilated..
@@antoncigur3727 Yes, but Felix is still young at well under 20. He will get his experience and learnt from his mistakes and doing better.
@@canicetang8837 Lin Shidong is 17, but Lebrun is not even close. Lin almost won the tournament
@@antoncigur3727 I know. But here is the problem for the rest of the World. The PRC has the most comprehensive and grueling national team selection system.
Here is how it works. Talents are spotted in the local levels as young as 5 years old to train in the table academy. These young kids are away from their parents, eat, trains and schooling there until the pyramid system passed to the next level in the city, then the provincial team, and finally, hand-picked to the National Team C levels at 15 years old at the Cadet Level, and going all the way to the Senior B and A team where the big stars are.
Did you know that the biggest amateur tournament in the World is in the PRC? The annual tournament takes an entire year with over 1 million participants. With such a talented pool to choose from. Just about anyone in the PRC's provincial team can be easily ranked in the top 100 in the ITTF standings. This is why the PRC team is selective in choosing those in the national "B" and 'C'' team members to compete. Often they surprised by going all the way from the qualifying to the semi-finals, and sometimes even winning an ITTF tournament.
This is why I am never surprised with the young Lin and other whom we never heard of. By the way, they play at the Chinese Elite Table Tennis League and often surprised the regular Chinese A team by beating them. It is just that those coverages are in Chinese and we hardly have the chance to watch them.
Therefore, just think, how could any countries compete with the PRC team in both Men and the Women's teams?
Interesting analysis. Lin's forehand is also incredibly powerful and it's a concise stroke, although you might be right in saying that at least Felix will have a chance if he targets the wide forehand.
Amazing backhand!!~
How far is Jorgic's BH vs. Lin SD's?
Are you 100% certain his BH rubber is Dignics 09c?
according to the official website of butterfly, he's using Dignics09c
@@secretwang7475 they also state that Lin Yun Ju uses Dignics 09c on his forehand side. But when you look at videos of his recent tournament play you can see that this is not true. He uses Tenergy 05 hard. So the website is not a reliable source.
@@kopfstandsnoopy t05hard has more sensitive and softer surface that can better grasp the ball
I feel like for the backhand stroke it’s sometimes better to go more through the ball and hit more flat than focusing on spin. Wenn I focus on spin I have a high rate of mistakes, if I just hit it flat it’s really easy for me to do very fast and precise shots with the backhand. I use Viscaria and 09c max on both sides
My friend went to china took some lessons with elite coaches. He says that this is the new style of backhand that they teach now. To open the blades face and if it is a top spin just hit the top of the ball. Allows to have less swing also transition between block and loop is easy as they start the same way. It is like forehand but from backhand side.
Terimakasih infonya
Lin backhand isn't hard it's extremely fast though his timing is perfect he hits the balls before the peak his sometimes he looks like a simple player to face but his, strokes, are quality we played them in Doubles whenever you attack to him his always in a good position to attack back and his anticipation is extrely good thus, saying this you really have to train lots of hours like they always do next generation of off the bounce backhands he makes it look easy so I believe in the, quality of the stroke to win the point he has many qualities and his, still very young and probably the next big thing ✌️
Sir, have you seen the backhand of Kalinikos Kreanga?
Hehehe! "Baby-Fatty" Lin Shidong. But, remember, "friends," I made that call, first.
despite it is impressive... kreanga / karekasewich are still a thing!
Also Benedek Olah and sensei Otto
What his rubber using in the Fore hand?
All of the Chinese team are using HCIII
@@HumbleBearcat this is a rubber over power
I think people underestimate the backhand of Patrick Franziska . Another great bh player.
A relatively shorter figure, Lin Shidong has to rely on hard-hitting BH to win points. Unfortunately the next ML or XX will end his game.
I think that this is not a real profound technical analysis.....data of arm speeds/ degrees of bending wrist/ forearm position/lenght of movement/ hip movement/ how does he moves exactly from fh to bh etc...and than compare with other players.....
What kind of Blade by Lin Shindong..?
Lin - small dragon 🐱
For backhand power alone, he is even better than former greats, Zhangjike and Fanzhendong. It seems like he is unbeatable in backhand rally. But still to become best, he must improve his footwork and forehand. Fan zhen dong at 19 looked much more powerful bacause he was strong in both sides, with a wonderful footwork.
what is his rubber?
darco jorgic have the top backhand in the world today
The pic shows Zang Yike...:D
His loop looks more like ZJK's one.
Zhang jike was not so clone to the table same with kreanga but there still was better with the old Ball and they had more spin
Lin's powerful BH was more forced like a slingshot, where ZJK has the best natural BH of all time. It was well judged, well balanced, well timed and classical, extremely pretty to watch.
His form is exactly like Tanaka Yuta!
Like skills of Bruce Lee
I see no reason to overreact, stocky people with shorter arms have the optimal physiques to use center mass as anchor behind their already short snappy strokes, perfect for fast backhand surprises, classic example includes Ding Ning vs Mima Ito, both polar opposites of each other becasue of their physiques.
he is the heir
If Lin Shidong beat Karllson in Singapore he will meet Ma Long interesting
I am sure young players chineses learn backhand from WanG HAo. , Wh is teacher of them
Hi
I think his backhand is very spinny and fastest in World.
3 different people speaking?
Hahaha
You said actually nothing about his backhand 😅
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Одна вода. А про технику ничего не сказал по сути )
definitely not "the best place to learn table tennis" lmao. you barely gave an analysis, all you said was his compact strokes and use of wrist which is just straight common sense. instead of bringing up multiple videos from games can you at least try to be more in depth. I learn nothing from watching your videos
LJK has more power in his backhand.
LJK has more raw power than LSD in the first place.
LSD is only 17 and will only get stronger in years to come.
@@syzygy6769 No one knows, we heard the same about Harimoto. Btw Harimoto had achieved more by the age of 17.
@@ncrean66 Harimoto did get more muscular and stronger, but no one knows how far he will go from here. So far, none of the many Japanese prodigies has become a world champion.
cap. too much disrespect to Fan Zhendong
so you make a video 'analize' but you dont analize. i know how he can do, lol
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