I was a Carl Lewis fan back in the day but to see him sitting there judging Ben when he himself failed a drug test that was covered up is really a complete joke.
@@fender1000100 His urine sample contained banned stimulants. And to be clear he failed THREE drugs tests during the 1988 Olympic trials. All roads lead to state-sponsored doping and an intentional cover-up.
Carl Lewis tested positive 3 times for banned substances in the 1988 Olympic trials, my point still stands, why does Carl Lewis's positive PED results get covered up, but Ben Johnson's not? Lewis failed many other drug tests throughout his career but each time it was hushed up. I still stand by original point that you disagreed with, if Johnson was with team USA the 9.79 record would of stood and any positive drug result hushed up.
@@Grief_Weasel Agreed, but I didn't know that at the time. The whole build up to the big showdown with Carl Lewis. Johnson crossing the line with one arm in the air in triumph. Great stuff. Then the whole truth came out.
Carl Lewis is the biggest baby out there!!! I'm sure Florence Griffith Joyner was as clean as they can be too lmfao. Ben was just the scapegoat at the time.
That's true. I've heard in numerous interviews by reputable people that Carl Lewis and many other top level athletes at that time were taking PED's they. Flo-Jo was on it too so in reality what's changed. Remember Marion Jones she also tested positive for PED's and lost absolutely everything. I wonder what was Usain Bolt's tests like and the other top runners of today. You figure that if top athletes of yesteryear were taking these drugs to run these fast times how could athletes of today run just as fast but naturally. It doesn't make sense.
wildmanbill4you Ben Johnson was a cheat who is still as delusional now as he was then. Flo Jo dropped dirty when? Do not conflate him with her. He deserved to be exposed. I was clean my ass. Just pathetic!
@@regaldonneys876 fair points tho but diet and training theories have changed since the 80s and 90s but we'll never know if anyone is on drugs until they get caught. My dad would always mention to me a few years back that at some point there is going to doctors making drugs to help with performance that cant be tested yet.
@@tiffanylyons4474 not even Flo Jo's American teammates thought she was clean. She was an average sprinter except for the last year of her career. Before the 1988 her best time in the 100-meter sprint was 10.96 seconds (set in 1987). In 1988, she improved that by 0.47 seconds. Then she quickly retired.
@@battleford3574 very simple the burden of proof is on the accuser tell me what drug did Flo Jo use. It's just not coolto smear someone's name on speculation alone when you have no proof...
At the US trials, not the Olympics and for a mild, over-the-counter stimulant at a level that would be considered a negative test today. That's a wild false equivalence to compare it to the comprehensive steroid programme that Johnson's coach admitted to.
@@NonFlyiingDutchman….This must be Carl Lewis’s burner account. Carl was just as juiced as all the other athletes. Carl Lewis is the biggest lier and cheat in sports history and it’s disgusting how he still trying to judge others and take the high road. I have more respect for Ben Johnson than I ever will for Carl Lewis
I remember watching this at the time and loving the beat down Ben Johnson put on Carl Lewis. Know some people who were competing for the Seoul Olympic team and for Lewis to be so righteous about drug use when he was a known drug user is typical of his persona. Tell us Carl, what about your buried drug testing positive results during the US Trials?
Lewis was positive for a mild, over the counter stimulant at a level so low it would be considered a negative test today. To compare that to Johnson's comprehensive steroid programme, that Johnson's coach admitted to, is an absurd comparison.
Carl is pathetic. He was my childhood hero, but the fact that he keeps playing the good guy after everyone knows what happen. It would suit all of the to come clean and remember these races as great races among equals...
They took him back to Canada before the Seoul games and juiced him up more than they ever had previously. Canada was going to have the most famous and celebrated track guy ever, and they did for a few days.
I was just a young bloke when Johnson destroyed the field & at the time, I wanted anyone to win except Lewis (too mouthy, never won any competition with any grace, etc). I was so disappointed when it turned out Johnson had cheated, that I lost all interest in athletics completely. It therefore came as no surprise later to hear that Lewis & Christie both tested positive. If the 3 top finishers in 1988 were taking drugs, how many others have been doing it since? So when it comes to the olympics & world championships, I couldn't give a fuck who wins. All we have is winners with the best masking agents getting paid huge contracts to continue the cycle of cheating. Faster, Higher, Stronger my arsehole.
They were all taking drugs. In that race linford and carl failed test and I am a fan of both. Ben was a scape goat. He even stated I stoped the drugs before the olympics
@@johnnwako2488 absolutely out of their minds,, I'm not going to throw stones but I will advocate truth,, Ben Johnson cheated and he got caught simple as that,,, but they want to go to the extreme and blame others,, everybody in a race was cheating ,,,that's crazy,,, I think they could have handled Ben Johnson better than personally,, they could have stripped that man maybe a month later,, didn't have to crucify him like that
@@johnnwako2488 it's the UA-cam comment section bro,,, where people can throw who they want under the bus.. and lift up who they want..... It's just the way it go... Carl Lewis had his day in court,,, and he won... Simple as that..
I love Carl's hypocrisy saying he is the guy in the white hat pretty sure he was suspended for drug use as well in his career. He always seems to be such a diva and a very poor sport.
i hated him then. I woke up in the middle of the night to watch this 100 m. And I jumped around and wrote a note my mother with just one word on it: Ben. The next morning I listened to the news and heard that he had been caught. I felt so sorry for him and how they threatened him. They were all doped during in Seoel. And Ben was the scape goat.
@@johnnwako2488 either way, Lewis still had an obvious lane violation just before the finish line in the 1988 final and also should not been given the gold
@@johnnwako2488 Carl was an arrogant sore loser. You people try to rewrite history. The fact remains, whenever anyone watches that race, they see Ben beating Carl convincingly. Carl was good, but he was never able to do anything close to what Usain Bolt did. Carl never actually set a real outdoor record an any event. Being given a world record is not the same as actually setting one. Usain Bolt won both the 100 and 200 meters in the Olympic three times in a row. Carl only did it in 1984.
Johnson was absolutely loaded in this race. He later wept and admitted in the Court when they played back his recorded telephonic conversations with his Doctor (where they discussed his steroid program). No questions about it. Everyone else were probably doping too but certainly not to the extent that Johnson was. Part of me wishes - like bodybuilding contests - there should be track & field contests where steroids are officially allowed. That would make really make things even. No hide & seek, no allegations of cheating etc.
I like most of the comments because they are so true. What I can keep from this race is that it was one of the most sensational and a pure beauty in the history of athletism!
@@sinsin1697 You must be either very young or uneducated, unintelligent and uninformed. I suggest the latter. (google latter, if you don't know what it means)
@@donjazzy5510 I have no idea what thought are you trying to convey... you just charge a man of being " doped to the eyeballs" as you so eloquently put it ...you're higher education..so I said that's funny that you would take time out of your day go on UA-cam look up Carl Lewis simply to bash him that is bizarre...
why not legalise the drugs..then it could be like formula 1. Christie sponsord by Phizers, Lewis by Beechams etc..and may the best steroids win! They could even have the logos on their vests.
7 out of the 8 runners wound up testing positive but the buried johnson. . . How about Carl Lewis, he tested positive 3 times in 1988 US Olympic trials and it was swept under the rug. . . That should of been a life ban, and they name him the olympian of the centuary.
Ben Johnson saying that he was clean (though the positive test is common knowledge) and that he used steroids prior to the Seoul but not during the games is, whether intentional or not, genius. In the sense that it draws a direct parallel to others in the field, who also say they are clean, who also have positive tests and who also probably have a doping schedule in the same way Ben Johnson did. He's the one that was caught, but the language is all the same
Lewis did fail a drug test but it was for a stimulant found in a cold medication ... not quite the same as a planned steroid program for 7-8 years that Johnson had. However, if you look at Lewis in his 30's he appeared to change physically with a much rounder face which is often a sign of steroid use and running a PB in the 100m at age 30 is highly unusual unless there is some substance that prolongs the career. Having said that, I met him recently and he is more humble and is coaching some lesser athletes and showing a genuine desire to just give back and help other athletes so I admire that. We'll never know for sure if he took any steroids since he was never caught with them in his system. His natural talent in the early 80's suggested that he didn't need them to be great. Ben didn't answer that last question about whether or not he would have done things differently because clearly he knows he would take the steroids all over again to get to the top and then not push the clearance time as closely to the Olympics so he would not get caught.
Yeah, I think if Lewis did anything it was probably HGH because of the jawline and then having braces (sign of HGH abuse). Steroids put strength and considerable bulk on Ben Johnson, but Lewis couldn't have the bulk because he was also a long jumper.
YES YOU ARE RIGHT AND STILL YOU GET PEOPLE SAYING THEY DO IT NATURALLY.THE AMOUNT OF EXTRA POWER YOU NEED TO RUN UNDER 9.7 YOU JUST CANT DO IT NATURALLY. YOU WOULDNT RECOVER FROM THE WEIGHT SESSIONS LET ALONE THE SPRINT TRAINING UNLESS YOU HAVE CHEMICAL ASSISTANCE.
I like Linford for the licks he put on the yanks in that olympics 100 metres final. But late in his career when he expressed the view that his testosterone levels were high due to the consumption of avocados was not just laughable but it was as funny as a hole in a lifeboat. Nevertheless, he was a superb athlete with a focus that surpassed those who even apart from his were great.
Think Lewis thought "he taking some next level shit, better than mine".....Lewis wasn't supposed to be on the team, he tested positive for a banned substance and got the letter saying he tested positive and will not be on the team, then the "inadvertent use" clause was implemented lol.......gotta love the US..
@@fender1000100 Linford Christie was born in St. Andrew, Jamaica and left when he was 7. A better explanation is the fact that Ben Johnson left at a later age.
I think as a Canadian we didn't want to believe wtf just happened?? When you defeat the world in a race, you should hold your head up high not be pissed and ashamed. Ben you broke my heart man. But I forgive you. We have good upcoming athletes that can do it clean!
Drugs I know, but still one of the most amazing performances I have ever seen! 9.79 back in 1988 prob just as amazing as 9.58 in 2009-but obviously not as good and Bolt was clean😊
Lol, none of them are clean, if you're clean you cannot compete at that level. Just because someone passes a few drug tests it doesn't mean they are clean.
Carl Lewis - never did like him. He was obnoxious, lacked grace, and always set himself up as 'the good guy' - forever going on about 'clean' athletes (and making himself out to be clean) and never ever using drugs. He tested positive for drugs during the '88 Olympic trials yet still competed. A total unlikeable hypocrite.
I know Linford Christie and Carl Lewis both failed drug tests, but I do feel Christie was innocent. When he was asked if he was guilty his answers seemed convincing. Carl Lewis however, acting like the victim. In not condoning Ben Johnson and think he deserved to be stripped of his gold medals but Carl Lewis was equally as guilty and I bet if Carl Lewis was from Canada like Johnson he would also have been stripped of his medals.
The moment that gold medal was stripped from Ben it should have been unavailable to everyone of those racers, Lewis certainly didn't deserve it running out of his lane more than once and a drug test fail too, nor as we found out years later none of the others, they were all on something and Linford certainly hasn't got a halo over his head either regarding performance drugs.
Hey, Carl: Don't take it personally. Ben was looking for his bag which is said to have had the masking agent. He could'nt find it and he got really nervous...THEN he saw you!
where abouts can i find this, think i remember having the whole thing of video years ago, it was a programme to celebrate 100 years of the olympics which i think was on tv in 1996.
It is widely recognised that Ben Johnson is not the sharpest knife in the draw. Lewis should have been denied going to the games because he failed a drugs test at the US championships but it was swept under the carpet and Christie was no saint either, failing a drugs test following the 200m heats which he put down to taking Ginseng tea. He only scraped it by one vote when a couple of the casting voting panel were asleep! The real winner in 1988 was Calvin Smith, the only clean athlete in that race and through his career.
Carl Lewis's positive test covered up : Olympic legend Carl Lewis is among more than 100 American athletes involved in a cover-up of drug use, documents reveal. Lewis and two of his training partners all took the same three types of banned stimulants and were caught at the 1988 US Olympic trials, according to the documents released by a disgruntled former senior US anti-doping official, Dr. Wade Exum. But on appeal to their national Olympic committee, all were cleared of inadvertent doping. Two months later, at the Seoul Olympics, Lewis finished second in the 100 Metres sprint. But when Canadian Ben Johnson failed his Olympic drug test, Lewis was awarded the 100m gold. Lewis also won the Olympic long jump - as part of his career tally of nine Olympic gold medals - and his training partner, Joe De Loach, won the 200m in Seoul. Lewis's lawyer, Martin Singer, has responded to the revelations by saying his client had taken only a herbal remedy. "Carl did nothing wrong," Mr Singer told The Orange County Register. "There was never intent." The latest documents show Lewis tested positive for the banned stimulants found in cold medications: pseudoephedrine, ephedrine and phenylpropanolamine. The World Anti-Doping Agency's chairman, Dick Pound, dismissed the "no intent" defence. Mr Pound has seen copies of the documents and said that in some instances there was almost "automatic forgiveness" by the US officials. Letters written by a US Olympic Committee executive, Baaron Pittenger, were sent advising some athletes of their positive drug-test results - and at the same time told them they were being cleared. "It's got to be pretty embarrassing to the USOC," said Mr Pound, "to have their secretary-general writing in the letter, where he advises an athlete of a positive A sample, 'I have to send you this, but we already decided this was inadvertent.' That whole process turned into a joke." Dr Exum, the former USOC director for drug control from 1991 to 2000, released more than 30,000 pages of documents to Sports Illustrated. They confirm widespread suspicion of the USOC drug-testing system before it was moved to an independent body, the US Anti Doping Agency, after the Sydney Olympics. The Herald reported last year that a US athlete tested positive to steroids in 1999 but was allowed to compete - and win an Olympic gold medal - in the 2000 Sydney Games. US officials still refuse to divulge the name of the athlete, or those of 13 other athletes who had failed drug tests around the same time, citing privacy laws. In the Seoul 100m, Britain's Linford Christie was elevated from third to second after Johnson was disqualified. In later years, Christie was banned for using steroids. The International Olympic Committee's medical commission chairman, Arne Ljungqvist, said the Exum documents "fit a pattern" of failure to report on positive drug cases. But the USOC called Dr Exum's accusations "baseless". Dr Exum said there were more than 100 positive tests for US athletes who won 19 Olympic medals between 1988 and 2000, but many were allowed to keep competing.
How could it be a cover-up and you know about it just think about that.....carl failed a drug test.... he fell three drug test.. a samples he didn't fail the b sample that's not of cover-up
@TheAngeltoDemon Bolt I can consider may b clean as no one had previously trained a tall sprinter thinking tall guys were best suited to distance. But because of his huge stride it turns out he can cover more distance. And when you watch the 9.58 WR you can see his arms and legs are not moving as fast as Ben Johnson, because they don't need to. But these guys- Tyson Gay, Asafa, it's likely they take banned substances. Heck, it's likely they ALL do Bolt included.
That entire US 4x100m mens team were on Vitamin S and Growth Hormones. All trained with the Santa Monica Track Club and all had more acne on their backs than you'd find in the entire front row of a Justin Bieber concert. Lewis is a hypocrite.
I find it surprising that Johnson didn't say that steroids don't make you run faster. He didn't defend himself, he makes no attempt to tell everyone that the steroids he was taking just meant that he could build up his physique. They don't make you run faster. He didn't say any of that. Why? Because he was probably taking other substances that did make him run faster.
Very unlikely Lewis was on roids..Armstrong wasn't using the same drugs as Johnson, and was training very differently-he was not benching 400 lb. like Johnson. Lewis never lifted heavily either, and was not using eastern european training methods. The most notable examples of others who were training/using similar drug protocols to Johnson were sprinters like FloJo-very similar effects, results and looks.
Jeez, Johnson had a fantastic start, people said it could beat eyesight, as in blink & you miss it, but in a fair race, without the drugs Lewis would beat Johnson 10/10.
When you look at the time Johnson ran now, it hardly in the top 10 of all time.his 9.79 was 15- 20 years ahead of time. Bolt 2008 Olympics 9.6 something, 2009 9.58 world championship which has stood for 14-15 years now
He was a certified douche bag. Ben was better than him all day every day on every level. He doesn't have the audacity to sit there and lie for decades the way that diva Carl has.
@Retro Lover Agreed... like Floyd Landis getting ousted, but Lance never getting "caught"... some have bribery power, and some don't... *When* you get caught also matters... e.g. nobody was paying attention to baseball's "Bash Brothers" in 1988, even as they were smacking dozens of homers... a decade and a half later, people were watching... Ben Johnson's case was one of the stories that propelled doping into the public consciousness... may have intentionally been planned as part of a white-knighting of Lewis ploy
I was a Carl Lewis fan back in the day but to see him sitting there judging Ben when he himself failed a drug test that was covered up is really a complete joke.
@Eric0816
I concur
What he failed for wasnt STEROIDS completely.different. it was a substance in medication he was talking that's not even illegal now.
@@fender1000100 His urine sample contained banned stimulants. And to be clear he failed THREE drugs tests during the 1988 Olympic trials. All roads lead to state-sponsored doping and an intentional cover-up.
@@fender1000100 He failed three whole drug tests for stimulants which were banned at the time. Carl Lewis is pretentious and a hypocrite.
Also ran the last 10m out of his lane which should have been a disqualification
PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULD NOT THROW STONES
Carl Lewis tested positive 3 times for banned substances in the 1988 Olympic trials, my point still stands, why does Carl Lewis's positive PED results get covered up, but Ben Johnson's not? Lewis failed many other drug tests throughout his career but each time it was hushed up.
I still stand by original point that you disagreed with, if Johnson was with team USA the 9.79 record would of stood and any positive drug result hushed up.
billy jo One word NIKE! That's why.
very true!!
Ironically most of the american public couldnt stand carl lewis
Lewis shouldn’t even been in that olympics but you know he’s American
Nothing he tested positive for would improve his performance. Nothing he tested positive for is banned today
All the debate aside, that 1988 Olympics 100m was one of the greatest thrillers ever!
i have more respect for johnson than lewis or christie because at least he can give an interview with a straight face
Because he's embarrassed you would too If it was you
He was as clean as EVERY other olympic athlete.
Obviously Ben tested positive but it was the best race I ever saw, regardless of the aftermath. Stunning..
This has to be one of the most ridiculous comments I’ve ever read, and I’ve read a LOT.
Then you didn't see the London 2012 finals.
It was only stunning because he was using PED’s
@@Grief_Weasel Agreed, but I didn't know that at the time. The whole build up to the big showdown with Carl Lewis. Johnson crossing the line with one arm in the air in triumph. Great stuff.
Then the whole truth came out.
@@40thstreetblack73 many of the athletes have used ped’s to be honest
Carl Lewis is the biggest baby out there!!! I'm sure Florence Griffith Joyner was as clean as they can be too lmfao. Ben was just the scapegoat at the time.
That's true. I've heard in numerous interviews by reputable people that Carl Lewis and many other top level athletes at that time were taking PED's they. Flo-Jo was on it too so in reality what's changed. Remember Marion Jones she also tested positive for PED's and lost absolutely everything. I wonder what was Usain Bolt's tests like and the other top runners of today. You figure that if top athletes of yesteryear were taking these drugs to run these fast times how could athletes of today run just as fast but naturally. It doesn't make sense.
wildmanbill4you Ben Johnson was a cheat who is still as delusional now as he was then. Flo Jo dropped dirty when? Do not conflate him with her. He deserved to be exposed. I was clean my ass. Just pathetic!
@@regaldonneys876 fair points tho but diet and training theories have changed since the 80s and 90s but we'll never know if anyone is on drugs until they get caught. My dad would always mention to me a few years back that at some point there is going to doctors making drugs to help with performance that cant be tested yet.
@@tiffanylyons4474 not even Flo Jo's American teammates thought she was clean. She was an average sprinter except for the last year of her career. Before the 1988 her best time in the 100-meter sprint was 10.96 seconds (set in 1987). In 1988, she improved that by 0.47 seconds. Then she quickly retired.
@@battleford3574 very simple the burden of proof is on the accuser tell me what drug did Flo Jo use. It's just not coolto smear someone's name on speculation alone when you have no proof...
6 out of the 8 sprinters in that race tested positive and Mr Lewis was one of them
Stimulants and anabolic steroids is completely different story
Lewis substances are legal today, it is ridiculous how you can stretch reality to your liking
At the US trials, not the Olympics and for a mild, over-the-counter stimulant at a level that would be considered a negative test today. That's a wild false equivalence to compare it to the comprehensive steroid programme that Johnson's coach admitted to.
@@NonFlyiingDutchman….This must be Carl Lewis’s burner account. Carl was just as juiced as all the other athletes. Carl Lewis is the biggest lier and cheat in sports history and it’s disgusting how he still trying to judge others and take the high road. I have more respect for Ben Johnson than I ever will for Carl Lewis
@@crabb9966 all should BE legal.
I remember watching this at the time and loving the beat down Ben Johnson put on Carl Lewis. Know some people who were competing for the Seoul Olympic team and for Lewis to be so righteous about drug use when he was a known drug user is typical of his persona. Tell us Carl, what about your buried drug testing positive results during the US Trials?
ONE OF THESE DAYS THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT
The Truth will come out one day
Lewis was positive for a mild, over the counter stimulant at a level so low it would be considered a negative test today. To compare that to Johnson's comprehensive steroid programme, that Johnson's coach admitted to, is an absurd comparison.
Carl is pathetic. He was my childhood hero, but the fact that he keeps playing the good guy after everyone knows what happen. It would suit all of the to come clean and remember these races as great races among equals...
Exactly. Carl Lewis shouldn’t even been there with his 3 failed tests prior to the OG, which team USA covered up…
Summary: Two drug cheats complain about a third drug cheat (who is still in denial)
+Ben Herzberg word man
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Is it cheating if everybody is doing it 🤷🏽♂️
So true
FACTS!!!!!!
Facts
We all love you Ben Ben. You're still the GOAT sprinter ever, and you know that. Everybody knows.
He was a pathetic cheater.
Juiced to gills ? Of course !
can't actually believe the words coming from Lewis' mouth. Ben isn't the disgrace of athletics, Carl is.
@@johnnwako2488 Wrong.
They took him back to Canada before the Seoul games and juiced him up more than they ever had previously. Canada was going to have the most famous and celebrated track guy ever, and they did for a few days.
@@johnnwako2488 are you some Carl Lewis worshiper?
@@johnnwako2488 The top 3 or 4 guys should've been disqualified.
Body should have been disqualified. Nobody.
Lewis comes off as FAKE
I was just a young bloke when Johnson destroyed the field & at the time, I wanted anyone to win except Lewis (too mouthy, never won any competition with any grace, etc). I was so disappointed when it turned out Johnson had cheated, that I lost all interest in athletics completely. It therefore came as no surprise later to hear that Lewis & Christie both tested positive. If the 3 top finishers in 1988 were taking drugs, how many others have been doing it since? So when it comes to the olympics & world championships, I couldn't give a fuck who wins. All we have is winners with the best masking agents getting paid huge contracts to continue the cycle of cheating. Faster, Higher, Stronger my arsehole.
lol
Shut the fuck up, shit head.
@@anilpandey6923 why??????????his opinion!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I mean 6/8 of them tested positive.
If ben was American he would go down in history as the greatest sprinter ever
Yeah
Naw then why is Marion Jones considered to be a cheat then?
Not better than Bolt.
In the same way Flojo is you mean?
What you are saying is 100 percent true!
Carl Lewis and the US athletes were protected. Total BS.
They were all taking drugs. In that race linford and carl failed test and I am a fan of both. Ben was a scape goat. He even stated I stoped the drugs before the olympics
The guy that came 4th wasn't
@@johnnwako2488 not Christy... Christy will smacked with a 2 years suspension.. when he got caught.. and he never appealed.
@@johnnwako2488 that is an absolute fact.. for some reason people have odd imagination when it comes down to Carl Lewis..
@@johnnwako2488 absolutely out of their minds,, I'm not going to throw stones but I will advocate truth,, Ben Johnson cheated and he got caught simple as that,,, but they want to go to the extreme and blame others,, everybody in a race was cheating ,,,that's crazy,,, I think they could have handled Ben Johnson better than personally,, they could have stripped that man maybe a month later,, didn't have to crucify him like that
@@johnnwako2488 it's the UA-cam comment section bro,,, where people can throw who they want under the bus.. and lift up who they want..... It's just the way it go... Carl Lewis had his day in court,,, and he won... Simple as that..
I love Carl's hypocrisy saying he is the guy in the white hat pretty sure he was suspended for drug use as well in his career. He always seems to be such a diva and a very poor sport.
i hated him then. I woke up in the middle of the night to watch this 100 m. And I jumped around and wrote a note my mother with just one word on it: Ben. The next morning I listened to the news and heard that he had been caught. I felt so sorry for him and how they threatened him. They were all doped during in Seoel. And Ben was the scape goat.
@@johnnwako2488 BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA! The golden boy was as doped as everyone else. He was just protected by the USTFA.
@@johnnwako2488 either way, Lewis still had an obvious lane violation just before the finish line in the 1988 final and also should not been given the gold
@@johnnwako2488 Carl was protected, you are really naive if you really think that he was "innocent".
@@johnnwako2488 Carl was an arrogant sore loser. You people try to rewrite history. The fact remains, whenever anyone watches that race, they see Ben beating Carl convincingly. Carl was good, but he was never able to do anything close to what Usain Bolt did. Carl never actually set a real outdoor record an any event. Being given a world record is not the same as actually setting one. Usain Bolt won both the 100 and 200 meters in the Olympic three times in a row. Carl only did it in 1984.
Johnson was absolutely loaded in this race. He later wept and admitted in the Court when they played back his recorded telephonic conversations with his Doctor (where they discussed his steroid program). No questions about it. Everyone else were probably doping too but certainly not to the extent that Johnson was. Part of me wishes - like bodybuilding contests - there should be track & field contests where steroids are officially allowed. That would make really make things even. No hide & seek, no allegations of cheating etc.
Carl is emotional like a woman. Carl is a sore lover. He had some funny tests as well. Christie tested positive. So how could Lewis possibly be clean
well Carl was doping as well from more adveancetd shit ok NASA developemt so they couldnt catch him ok
Ben Johnson is the best ever!the best of All Time @
What they did to Johnson after this was unforgiveable. Lewis is detestable.
Mr. Lewis, I still believe your are a hypocrite.
I like most of the comments because they are so true. What I can keep from this race is that it was one of the most sensational and a pure beauty in the history of athletism!
Ridiculous!!
Hahahahaha
Carl was doped up to his eyeballs.....Ben being outed was a business issue between 2 camps
So that's what you did came on here to Bash Carl Lewis that's what your life consist of... Where's your proof man...
@@sinsin1697 You must be either very young or uneducated, unintelligent and uninformed. I suggest the latter. (google latter, if you don't know what it means)
@@donjazzy5510 I have no idea what thought are you trying to convey... you just charge a man of being " doped to the eyeballs" as you so eloquently put it ...you're higher education..so I said that's funny that you would take time out of your day go on UA-cam look up Carl Lewis simply to bash him that is bizarre...
@@sinsin1697 Telling the truth is not bashing
@@donjazzy5510 half-truth is worse than no Truth at all.... I mean did he do anything good can you point that out too..
Christie miraculously went from a perrenial 4th placer to winning every race. Mmmmm
It's all coming back watching this... Ben Johnson was my idol. I'd never been so shocked in my life!
Hopefully that is just an expression , because no idolater shall inherit the Kingdom Of GOD , see 1st. Corinthians 6:9-10 .
@@WISHBONEL7
What? Keep your religion out of this. Everyones been believing fairytales.
@@fender1000100 REPENT or perish , because if you don't you are going to wish that I had typed / spoke this a lot more and a lot louder !!.
@@fender1000100 you are determined to be stuck on stupid .
@@WISHBONEL7no one’s listening chump
Big up Ben Johnson, pure love for you, greatest race in history, pure theatre leading up to this race!
6:50 to 6:53 . Those 3 seconds of Silence says it all. He did not have to answer.
why not legalise the drugs..then it could be like formula 1. Christie sponsord by Phizers, Lewis by Beechams etc..and may the best steroids win! They could even have the logos on their vests.
this
if drugs was legal, Carl wil be the first one front of the door. i think carl think that only him who should use drugs.
in the same olympics there was a steroid creation called Flo-Jo but nothing happened
Ben Johnson is the man.
wow i remember this and i was 10 years old
Right there with ya bro, I was 11 at the time!
7 out of the 8 runners wound up testing positive but the buried johnson. . . How about Carl Lewis, he tested positive 3 times in 1988 US Olympic trials and it was swept under the rug. . . That should of been a life ban, and they name him the olympian of the centuary.
Did Ben give this interview right after the race? I thought he confessed 2 days or so later.
Ben Johnson saying that he was clean (though the positive test is common knowledge) and that he used steroids prior to the Seoul but not during the games is, whether intentional or not, genius. In the sense that it draws a direct parallel to others in the field, who also say they are clean, who also have positive tests and who also probably have a doping schedule in the same way Ben Johnson did. He's the one that was caught, but the language is all the same
Lewis did fail a drug test but it was for a stimulant found in a cold medication ... not quite the same as a planned steroid program for 7-8 years that Johnson had. However, if you look at Lewis in his 30's he appeared to change physically with a much rounder face which is often a sign of steroid use and running a PB in the 100m at age 30 is highly unusual unless there is some substance that prolongs the career. Having said that, I met him recently and he is more humble and is coaching some lesser athletes and showing a genuine desire to just give back and help other athletes so I admire that. We'll never know for sure if he took any steroids since he was never caught with them in his system. His natural talent in the early 80's suggested that he didn't need them to be great. Ben didn't answer that last question about whether or not he would have done things differently because clearly he knows he would take the steroids all over again to get to the top and then not push the clearance time as closely to the Olympics so he would not get caught.
Yeah, I think if Lewis did anything it was probably HGH because of the jawline and then having braces (sign of HGH abuse). Steroids put strength and considerable bulk on Ben Johnson, but Lewis couldn't have the bulk because he was also a long jumper.
Spot on. Johnson said at the time "I just want to beat Carl Lewis. I don't care if I get 3rd and he gets 4th, as long as I beat Carl Lewis."
YES YOU ARE RIGHT AND STILL YOU GET PEOPLE SAYING THEY DO IT NATURALLY.THE AMOUNT OF EXTRA POWER YOU NEED TO RUN UNDER 9.7 YOU JUST CANT DO IT NATURALLY. YOU WOULDNT RECOVER FROM THE WEIGHT SESSIONS LET ALONE THE SPRINT TRAINING UNLESS YOU HAVE CHEMICAL ASSISTANCE.
Bro how does Carl Lewis do this interview with a straight face acting like he wasn't juicing
8 of the 9 guys in that final had all tested positive for steroids at sometime in their careers… Ben Johnson was just a scapegoat at the time
I like Linford for the licks he put on the yanks in that olympics 100 metres final. But late in his career when he expressed the view that his testosterone levels were high due to the consumption of avocados was not just laughable but it was as funny as a hole in a lifeboat. Nevertheless, he was a superb athlete with a focus that surpassed those who even apart from his were great.
Think Lewis thought "he taking some next level shit, better than mine".....Lewis wasn't supposed to be on the team, he tested positive for a banned substance and got the letter saying he tested positive and will not be on the team, then the "inadvertent use" clause was implemented lol.......gotta love the US..
U can smile when u the fastest in the world ❤
Both Ben and Carl were juiced. So Ben beat Carl fair and square! What a great race!!
False. Ben was drug cheat and got caught. Stripped of his unearned gold medal.
It's funny how ben still has his Jamaican accent and Linford's is gone.
Linford is a British born Jamaican. That tends to happen. Ever heard Frank Bruno or Ian Wright talk?
@@fender1000100 Linford Christie was born in St. Andrew, Jamaica and left when he was 7. A better explanation is the fact that Ben Johnson left at a later age.
Linford left Jamaica when he was 7 while ben johnson left when he was 15
The a answer to the last question would probably be :
" I guess I would do it again because everybody else does"
But he didn't want any scandal.
It wasn’t a case of runner against runner years ago, it was chemist against chemist. More so in the Eastern European countries.
I think as a Canadian we didn't want to believe wtf just happened?? When you defeat the world in a race, you should hold your head up high not be pissed and ashamed. Ben you broke my heart man. But I forgive you. We have good upcoming athletes that can do it clean!
youre damn right, despite im big johnson fan...providing of course Calvin was clean...
Where did he work after?
Anyone watching the interview can see that he was so guilty of it he just tries to smile it off
ninety percent of them juice. Calvin was one of the few who didn't. He was naturally fast
yeh im the best
Mark Rimedio they are all naturally fast and talented
yep..calvin smith was a class act..
Calvin who? Calvin klein.
Robson Da Silva from Brazil was clean as well. 6 of the 8 members of that Seoul race had connections to PED use.
Imagine Carl speaking of the guy with black hat and the guy with the white hat as the good guy. I wonder if his mind set has changed over these years?
I noted that too! His is all twisted up mentally.
The guy has a chip on his shoulder no matter what he never has a good word to say, always putting himself on a pedalstal,
Ben's only fault was that he won the race. If he came 2nd or 3rd we wouldn't hear anything. At the end of the day, they were all doped up.
Ben Johnson should never have been stripped.
I absolutely agree with you 100%....
Carl Lewis was as big superstar in mid 80s as Bolt is today.
bigger. no social media but he was a house hold name. and in japan he was elvis
If that's the case it was likely hand timed in any event. And yes, his son is a fine 400 runner, let's see if he can make the open 400 team.
Yes it was part of a celebration programme hosted by Des Lynam, I only kept the parts I was interested in.
Drugs I know, but still one of the most amazing performances I have ever seen! 9.79 back in 1988 prob just as amazing as 9.58 in 2009-but obviously not as good and Bolt was clean😊
Lol, none of them are clean, if you're clean you cannot compete at that level. Just because someone passes a few drug tests it doesn't mean they are clean.
Bolt was dead tall .,
"Bolt was clean" 😆😆😆
well are you sure about that ?!! it became so advanced now they can inject substance that can disappear right after while you take a pee.
Thank you for not responding in all caps, misspellings, and curses.
Carl was a sore loser just look at his face at the end of the race, it reads "aww man!!!!!!!!!!"
LMAO!!! but bruh, will you be all smiles and rejoicing for your life if you wanted to win gold so badly but ended up with a silver?
9:84 Seconds that changed the world
you are right it was 1 positive test. he tested positive on 3 stimulants
Carl Lewis - never did like him. He was obnoxious, lacked grace, and always set himself up as 'the good guy' - forever going on about 'clean' athletes (and making himself out to be clean) and never ever using drugs.
He tested positive for drugs during the '88 Olympic trials yet still competed.
A total unlikeable hypocrite.
@MrBusunglueck That's true; but it's also easier for west Indians to pick up a british accent than a canadian / u.s one.
Carl Lewis labelling himself "The clean guy" what a hypocrite, and also implying that everybody else was cheating.
Carl I've met Big Ben probably 5 times always polite and courteous to me.. he simply didn't like you end of story.
I know Linford Christie and Carl Lewis both failed drug tests, but I do feel Christie was innocent. When he was asked if he was guilty his answers seemed convincing. Carl Lewis however, acting like the victim. In not condoning Ben Johnson and think he deserved to be stripped of his gold medals but Carl Lewis was equally as guilty and I bet if Carl Lewis was from Canada like Johnson he would also have been stripped of his medals.
The moment that gold medal was stripped from Ben it should have been unavailable to everyone of those racers, Lewis certainly didn't deserve it running out of his lane more than once and a drug test fail too, nor as we found out years later none of the others, they were all on something and Linford certainly hasn't got a halo over his head either regarding performance drugs.
Treating ben like he is a criminal... Just take his medal and thats it. Ya'll shoud show some more respect to a man who ran 9.79
Hear hear.
Hey, Carl: Don't take it personally. Ben was looking for his bag which is said to have had the masking agent. He could'nt find it and he got really nervous...THEN he saw you!
where abouts can i find this, think i remember having the whole thing of video years ago, it was a programme to celebrate 100 years of the olympics which i think was on tv in 1996.
He ain't under no pressure. Just look at some other things he's done like trying to sing the Star Spangled Banner. He's just crazy!
It is widely recognised that Ben Johnson is not the sharpest knife in the draw. Lewis should have been denied going to the games because he failed a drugs test at the US championships but it was swept under the carpet and Christie was no saint either, failing a drugs test following the 200m heats which he put down to taking Ginseng tea. He only scraped it by one vote when a couple of the casting voting panel were asleep! The real winner in 1988 was Calvin Smith, the only clean athlete in that race and through his career.
Ben is smart… so stop the nonsense
Johnston let up at the end you can see it.
Carl Lewis's positive test covered up
:
Olympic legend Carl Lewis is among more than 100 American athletes involved in a cover-up of drug use, documents reveal.
Lewis and two of his training partners all took the same three types of banned stimulants and were caught at the 1988 US Olympic trials, according to the documents released by a disgruntled former senior US anti-doping official, Dr. Wade Exum.
But on appeal to their national Olympic committee, all were cleared of inadvertent doping. Two months later, at the Seoul Olympics, Lewis finished second in the 100 Metres sprint. But when Canadian Ben Johnson failed his Olympic drug test, Lewis was awarded the 100m gold.
Lewis also won the Olympic long jump - as part of his career tally of nine Olympic gold medals - and his training partner, Joe De Loach, won the 200m in Seoul.
Lewis's lawyer, Martin Singer, has responded to the revelations by saying his client had taken only a herbal remedy.
"Carl did nothing wrong," Mr Singer told The Orange County Register. "There was never intent."
The latest documents show Lewis tested positive for the banned stimulants found in cold medications: pseudoephedrine, ephedrine and phenylpropanolamine.
The World Anti-Doping Agency's chairman, Dick Pound, dismissed the "no intent" defence. Mr Pound has seen copies of the documents and said that in some instances there was almost "automatic forgiveness" by the US officials.
Letters written by a US Olympic Committee executive, Baaron Pittenger, were sent advising some athletes of their positive drug-test results - and at the same time told them they were being cleared.
"It's got to be pretty embarrassing to the USOC," said Mr Pound, "to have their secretary-general writing in the letter, where he advises an athlete of a positive A sample, 'I have to send you this, but we already decided this was inadvertent.' That whole process turned into a joke."
Dr Exum, the former USOC
director for drug control from 1991 to 2000, released more than 30,000 pages of documents to Sports Illustrated. They confirm widespread suspicion of the USOC drug-testing system before it was moved to an independent body, the US Anti Doping Agency, after the Sydney Olympics.
The Herald reported last year that a US athlete tested positive to steroids in 1999 but was allowed to compete - and win an Olympic gold medal - in the 2000 Sydney Games. US officials still refuse to divulge the name of the athlete, or those of 13 other athletes who had failed drug tests around the same time, citing privacy laws.
In the Seoul 100m, Britain's Linford Christie was elevated from third to second after Johnson was disqualified. In later years, Christie was banned for using steroids.
The International Olympic Committee's medical commission chairman, Arne Ljungqvist, said the Exum documents "fit a pattern" of failure to report on positive drug cases. But the USOC called Dr Exum's accusations "baseless".
Dr Exum said there were more than 100 positive tests for US athletes who won 19 Olympic medals between 1988 and 2000, but many were allowed to keep competing.
How could it be a cover-up and you know about it just think about that.....carl failed a drug test.... he fell three drug test.. a samples he didn't fail the b sample that's not of cover-up
hahaha 3:10
"you have been described as the greatest cheat"
Because they are jealous they cant run that fast.... LOL!
Ben Johnson = Barry Bonds
all 3 were tested positive
@TheAngeltoDemon Bolt I can consider may b clean as no one had previously trained a tall sprinter thinking tall guys were best suited to distance. But because of his huge stride it turns out he can cover more distance. And when you watch the 9.58 WR you can see his arms and legs are not moving as fast as Ben Johnson, because they don't need to. But these guys- Tyson Gay, Asafa, it's likely they take banned substances. Heck, it's likely they ALL do Bolt included.
I can't believe you sit there and say that when you know how many times you failed drug test and it was covered up.
mr Lewis was always on drugs...they know this. He is the worst hypocrite
That entire US 4x100m mens team were on Vitamin S and Growth Hormones. All trained with the Santa Monica Track Club and all had more acne on their backs than you'd find in the entire front row of a Justin Bieber concert. Lewis is a hypocrite.
I find it surprising that Johnson didn't say that steroids don't make you run faster. He didn't defend himself, he makes no attempt to tell everyone that the steroids he was taking just meant that he could build up his physique. They don't make you run faster.
He didn't say any of that. Why? Because he was probably taking other substances that did make him run faster.
at 6:49 you can tell he really wants to say 'i wouldn't take the drugs' but he knows he can't.
when was the documentary produced?
Lewis stepped out of his lane before finish line, automatic disqualification.
He did, I have always wondered why that has never been mentioned.
Christie robbed of being dual 100m champion.
Very unlikely Lewis was on roids..Armstrong wasn't using the same drugs as Johnson, and was training very differently-he was not benching 400 lb. like Johnson. Lewis never lifted heavily either, and was not using eastern european training methods. The most notable examples of others who were training/using similar drug protocols to Johnson were sprinters like FloJo-very similar effects, results and looks.
How is it that Flo Jo is still been glorified
Jeez, Johnson had a fantastic start, people said it could beat eyesight, as in blink & you miss it, but in a fair race, without the drugs Lewis would beat Johnson 10/10.
...which is honestly hard to believe considering pre-season training and all.
Amazing performance from Linford to get third 👍
2:00 AKA, couldn't let him have his moment.
watching this race it was great no matter the dq johnson finished 1st
When you look at the time Johnson ran now, it hardly in the top 10 of all time.his 9.79 was 15- 20 years ahead of time. Bolt 2008 Olympics 9.6 something, 2009 9.58 world championship which has stood for 14-15 years now
Calvin Smith should have that gold medal.
@MrBusunglueck you are right it was one postive test. it was 3 stimulants
Ben Johnson said people were jealous haters of him? Wasn't it he that hated and was jealous of Carl Lewis?
Poor sound recording .
He sure was, he was a cheat who LIED looking u on the eye. that was what he was better than Ben.
He was a certified douche bag. Ben was better than him all day every day on every level. He doesn't have the audacity to sit there and lie for decades the way that diva Carl has.
WTF? Ever heard of Marion Jones, Dennis Mitchell, Justin Gatlin, Tony Dees, they were all Americans, nothing was hushed.
@Retro Lover Agreed... like Floyd Landis getting ousted, but Lance never getting "caught"... some have bribery power, and some don't...
*When* you get caught also matters... e.g. nobody was paying attention to baseball's "Bash Brothers" in 1988, even as they were smacking dozens of homers... a decade and a half later, people were watching... Ben Johnson's case was one of the stories that propelled doping into the public consciousness... may have intentionally been planned as part of a white-knighting of Lewis ploy
Window dressing... sacrificial lambs