degreaser is really good, you almost need it for combo pyro (the only useful pyro type in high level situations). you also should not rely on afterburn. keep in mind that it also speeds up the switch speed to other slots.
I didn’t think the switch speed actually mattered that much, and I forgot about the combos. I spend 90% of my time on Medic so I’m not the most polished pyro player to say the least. But thanks for watching and thanks for the feedback! 😊
My thoughts on the video and a few clarifications: The Gas Passer is not part of the Gas Jockey set because it was released YEARS after the set. The Reserve Shooter got nerfed because using it with airblast was beyond busted. Also, since you said you haven't used it, you can get the Dragon's Fury for free, just look up your contracts, there's a contract chain whose first one lets you borrow a Dragon's Fury and gives you a permanent one if you complete it, you can also just not complete it and keep using the borrowed one lol, you can get the Thermal Thruster, Hot Hand and Second Banana the same way. I really don't understand why the Gas Passer got a 4 in utility though, it's only use is lighting people on fire, which you can already do, and lighting other Pyros on fire is not that good, the damage of afterburn is not THAT big, you are better off using the flamethrower. Now for two personal opinions: the Third Degree didn't deserve the extra point, the upside is so situational and hard to apply it practically doesn't exist. Also I found a lot of the jokes in the video to just be very forced in, the best ones were the more casually-said ones like "I really *glove* this weapon". Good video overall though.
Wow! First of all, thanks for watching and taking the time to write all this. So after I edited the video, I remembered contracts existed… and also I only made that comment about the gas jockey set because, well, it’s the GAS passer! It would fit right in, but maybe they just can’t retroactively change the item set. I 100% agree with you about the Gas Passer’s utility though. I had something written about MVM where it’s super busted, but cut it out because it didn’t exactly fit the theme of the video, but forgot to change the stats to actually reflect that. I would disagree about the third degree, because I’m not so sure Medics healing people is “so situational.” And I’m sorry my puns didn’t meet your standards. Let me know if you’d have any suggestions for my upcoming Scout video!
An interesting take from a newer player. Pretty sure you don't know much about what you're talking about, but that's ok. Interesting to see a perspective of somebody who doesn't already know everything about the game.
Few points from somebody who has played a lot more. Gas passer Sucks compared to the effectiveness at covering Pyro's weaknesses of the other secondaries. You're nerfing yourself if you use it, even compared to a shotgun which can cover some mid range. Phlog only works against bad players. In higher skilled lobbies you'll be useless without airblast. Someone already corrected you with the degreaser, but its very helpful to be able to switch faster between your secondaries and primary to be able to add more damage in when reflecting projectiles. You don't have the time to do that with stock (assuming they're firing as fast as they can) Detonator: Do you not know about Detonator jumping? Also when you get good at the weapon its almost an upgrade to the scorch shot because it'll allow you to light groups of enemies from angles the scorch shot just can't due to its manual ignite. Homewrecker: Enemy sappers count as buildings. You can remove them for your engie in a single swing. Sharpened Volcano Fragment: Its even worse because if you're using your melee as a pyro, you're hoping for a random crit to do 195 to hopefully 1 shot your opponent. The damage pentalty makes it do closer to 150 which just won't 1 hit as many enemies.
First of all, in case I come off as rude, thanks for watching, I appreciate you taking the time to watch and give me your feedback, especially since you seem to think I don’t know what I’m talking about! In hindsight, I would probably place the Gas Passer at a 2/5 in Utility. I went into it with the mindset of checking how many situations the afterburn would be useful in, which is to say all of them. What I didn’t consider is the fact that a majority of Pyro’s weapons also inflict afterburn. I was also mostly looking at the stats on the weapon, and because it’s a unique weapon, it seemingly has no downsides. (but the real downside is its obsolescence compared to some of Pyro’s better secondaries.) I’m not exactly sure what you mean about the Phlog, surely with good movement/a medic you’re not *useless* without airblast, and those crits can be extremely devastating. I may have been a bit too generous with the weapon, but I feel you’re being a bit too harsh. And I stand corrected about the Degreaser, but a reminder that the ratings I gave were based mostly on the weapons by themselves, and you can probably guess why it would mostly fail in that regard. I do know about Detonator jumping! And I’ve put the weapon very low on the accessibility scale because of the timing and such required to use the weapon. Is your problem with the Utility score I’ve given it? Perhaps I’d give it a 3 or a 4 instead, just because it may be more useful in a more experienced player’s hands. I’ve already gotten a comment about the Homewrecker, and I don’t think I explained myself very well there. If you’re playing Pyro, and you aren’t spending your time in an engineer nest, the weapon is practically useless, i.e. “The damage penalty makes it do closer to 150 which just won't 1 hit as many enemies.” The one point I gave it is for the scenario that you ARE staying in an engie nest, but maybe it’s so useful in that scenario that it warrants a 2. And I’m not sure where we disagree about the Sharpened Volcano Fragment. I ranked it the lowest out of Pyro’s melees, right above the Homewrecker. Its only saving grace is that if the afterburn runs its course, that adds up to 216 damage total, but I see how that isn’t as appealing as a 1-tap, hence the low score. I also mention Medieval mode, but that’s pretty niche, so I didn’t expect you to acknowledge that. In conclusion, I only have 500 hours in the game, and at least 400 hours of that is spent on Medic, so I’m going a bit out of my expertise here, but I wouldn’t go so far to say that I’m a “new player.” But what do I know?
I assume you mean helping engineers, and don’t forget that the neon annihilator also removes sappers, so the homewrecker isn’t even unique in doing that.
Afterburn is more of an annoyance you shouldn't rely on it. The degreasers switch speed is overwhelmingly usefull you can get your flamethrower back much faster to react to spam and to your secondary to deal big damage slightly faster the saving grace is the switch back to speed ut comes into play way more than most think. The degreaser also does the same direct damage as stock. The airblast penalty is manageable. Just my two cents
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degreaser is really good, you almost need it for combo pyro (the only useful pyro type in high level situations). you also should not rely on afterburn. keep in mind that it also speeds up the switch speed to other slots.
I didn’t think the switch speed actually mattered that much, and I forgot about the combos. I spend 90% of my time on Medic so I’m not the most polished pyro player to say the least. But thanks for watching and thanks for the feedback! 😊
My thoughts on the video and a few clarifications:
The Gas Passer is not part of the Gas Jockey set because it was released YEARS after the set.
The Reserve Shooter got nerfed because using it with airblast was beyond busted.
Also, since you said you haven't used it, you can get the Dragon's Fury for free, just look up your contracts, there's a contract chain whose first one lets you borrow a Dragon's Fury and gives you a permanent one if you complete it, you can also just not complete it and keep using the borrowed one lol, you can get the Thermal Thruster, Hot Hand and Second Banana the same way.
I really don't understand why the Gas Passer got a 4 in utility though, it's only use is lighting people on fire, which you can already do, and lighting other Pyros on fire is not that good, the damage of afterburn is not THAT big, you are better off using the flamethrower.
Now for two personal opinions: the Third Degree didn't deserve the extra point, the upside is so situational and hard to apply it practically doesn't exist.
Also I found a lot of the jokes in the video to just be very forced in, the best ones were the more casually-said ones like "I really *glove* this weapon".
Good video overall though.
Wow! First of all, thanks for watching and taking the time to write all this.
So after I edited the video, I remembered contracts existed… and also I only made that comment about the gas jockey set because, well, it’s the GAS passer! It would fit right in, but maybe they just can’t retroactively change the item set.
I 100% agree with you about the Gas Passer’s utility though. I had something written about MVM where it’s super busted, but cut it out because it didn’t exactly fit the theme of the video, but forgot to change the stats to actually reflect that.
I would disagree about the third degree, because I’m not so sure Medics healing people is “so situational.”
And I’m sorry my puns didn’t meet your standards.
Let me know if you’d have any suggestions for my upcoming Scout video!
I watched all the way to the very end!
Good video btw, I will definitely come back to this channel👍
Nice
An interesting take from a newer player. Pretty sure you don't know much about what you're talking about, but that's ok. Interesting to see a perspective of somebody who doesn't already know everything about the game.
Kinda rude, but I'll let it slide 😅
Thanks for watching!
Few points from somebody who has played a lot more.
Gas passer Sucks compared to the effectiveness at covering Pyro's weaknesses of the other secondaries. You're nerfing yourself if you use it, even compared to a shotgun which can cover some mid range.
Phlog only works against bad players. In higher skilled lobbies you'll be useless without airblast.
Someone already corrected you with the degreaser, but its very helpful to be able to switch faster between your secondaries and primary to be able to add more damage in when reflecting projectiles. You don't have the time to do that with stock (assuming they're firing as fast as they can)
Detonator: Do you not know about Detonator jumping? Also when you get good at the weapon its almost an upgrade to the scorch shot because it'll allow you to light groups of enemies from angles the scorch shot just can't due to its manual ignite.
Homewrecker: Enemy sappers count as buildings. You can remove them for your engie in a single swing.
Sharpened Volcano Fragment: Its even worse because if you're using your melee as a pyro, you're hoping for a random crit to do 195 to hopefully 1 shot your opponent. The damage pentalty makes it do closer to 150 which just won't 1 hit as many enemies.
First of all, in case I come off as rude, thanks for watching, I appreciate you taking the time to watch and give me your feedback, especially since you seem to think I don’t know what I’m talking about!
In hindsight, I would probably place the Gas Passer at a 2/5 in Utility.
I went into it with the mindset of checking how many situations the afterburn would be useful in, which is to say all of them. What I didn’t consider is the fact that a majority of Pyro’s weapons also inflict afterburn. I was also mostly looking at the stats on the weapon, and because it’s a unique weapon, it seemingly has no downsides. (but the real downside is its obsolescence compared to some of Pyro’s better secondaries.)
I’m not exactly sure what you mean about the Phlog, surely with good movement/a medic you’re not *useless* without airblast, and those crits can be extremely devastating. I may have been a bit too generous with the weapon, but I feel you’re being a bit too harsh.
And I stand corrected about the Degreaser, but a reminder that the ratings I gave were based mostly on the weapons by themselves, and you can probably guess why it would mostly fail in that regard.
I do know about Detonator jumping! And I’ve put the weapon very low on the accessibility scale because of the timing and such required to use the weapon. Is your problem with the Utility score I’ve given it? Perhaps I’d give it a 3 or a 4 instead, just because it may be more useful in a more experienced player’s hands.
I’ve already gotten a comment about the Homewrecker, and I don’t think I explained myself very well there. If you’re playing Pyro, and you aren’t spending your time in an engineer nest, the weapon is practically useless, i.e. “The damage penalty makes it do closer to 150 which just won't 1 hit as many enemies.”
The one point I gave it is for the scenario that you ARE staying in an engie nest, but maybe it’s so useful in that scenario that it warrants a 2.
And I’m not sure where we disagree about the Sharpened Volcano Fragment. I ranked it the lowest out of Pyro’s melees, right above the Homewrecker. Its only saving grace is that if the afterburn runs its course, that adds up to 216 damage total, but I see how that isn’t as appealing as a 1-tap, hence the low score. I also mention Medieval mode, but that’s pretty niche, so I didn’t expect you to acknowledge that.
In conclusion, I only have 500 hours in the game, and at least 400 hours of that is spent on Medic, so I’m going a bit out of my expertise here, but I wouldn’t go so far to say that I’m a “new player.”
But what do I know?
Just started but if he doesn't say that the dragons fury is the best weapon in the entire game I will sue
Good video! I think you should tone the music a little down tho, it's almost at the same volume as your voice and makes it tired to see at times ;(
I'll make sure to tone down the music in the next video!
What about pybro class? Homewrecker is more like a 3.5/5 weapon
I assume you mean helping engineers, and don’t forget that the neon annihilator also removes sappers, so the homewrecker isn’t even unique in doing that.
@voxelobsession well yes neon does that too but neon does it in 2 hits and homewrecker in 1 so homewrecker is supperior in destroyng sappers
Afterburn is more of an annoyance you shouldn't rely on it. The degreasers switch speed is overwhelmingly usefull you can get your flamethrower back much faster to react to spam and to your secondary to deal big damage slightly faster the saving grace is the switch back to speed ut comes into play way more than most think. The degreaser also does the same direct damage as stock. The airblast penalty is manageable. Just my two cents
Thanks!
I did agree with and pin a comment that said much of the same things that you did, but maybe you didn’t see it.
@voxelobsession my b didn't really read any other comments lol
No worries!
Thanks for watching!