The Painting that Changed Mark Rothko’s Career
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2020
- In this episode of expert voices, David Galperin examines the painting that entirely shifted the remaining decade of Mark Rothko’s career. In 1958, Rothko’s transforms his color palette into the somber, meditative colors intended to provoke a submersive, awe-inspiring event upon viewing. Learn how in Untitled (Black on Maroon), Rothko embarks on this endeavor for the very first time. Untitled (Black on Maroon) is a highlight of the Contemporary Art Evening auction (28 October 2020, New York).
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The speaker keeps repeating an important thing about Rothko's works - that standing in front of them has an impact you don't get from seeing them in books or in UA-cam videos. It's like the difference between seeing online photos by Ansel Adams and having one right in front of you. Generally speaking, UA-cam is the best place to learn about Art and the worst place to experience it. 🐧
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Honestly this is more of a isperational marketing video than an insperational art video. These painting are some bull shyt..
fuq this Rosqo guy
My guy... It's blocks on a fuqen canvas..
This dude is taking a bunch of 3 to 4 syllable and technical buzzwords in the art world to sell a lazy asz painting for more than it Worth..
He mentions "mixing colors and tonality"?
That's in every fuqen painting
Micheal Angelo mixed paints for the Mona Lisa
Sadly this it's a time old tradition in the marketing art world
A sucker is born every second and you're one of them my dude
@@Bee-tj8gc No offense intended, but just because you were raised to get bent out of shape because something doesn't appeal to you doesn't mean you have to die that way. You don't like what's on the television? Change the channel. You don't like sushi? Then don't eat it. Just try not to be a jerk about it.
You're welcome! 🙂
@@TheStockwell people cretique art... It's part of art. Don't get offended lol
Was lucky enough to see him seated alone at table in MOMA's garden one day. I went over and told him I loved his paintings but was too shy to say anything else. He thanked me and I left. Have since read much about him and what I love above all is how generous he was with his money. Always asking young artists he knew if they had enough money when he met them. Surely a sensitive soul like Mark is now enjoying a wonderful next life.
thats really cool.
Beautiful description of Rothko's work!
I love his paintings.
Very interesting film - thank you so much!
No fluctuations the artist knew what his project was an optical expression and an entrant into his space this was a special pass which his audience experience but again undoubtedly a journey into his paintings is like a great experience 🎉
wunderful report. thanks
In Signs of the Times: Deconstruction and the Fall of Paul de Man, David Lehman writes: “When an abstract painting by Mark Rothko is described as ‘a palimpsest of traces’ in which the painter’s ‘image-sign enabled him to elide or dismantle such conventional binaries’ as birth and death, we suspect that the student may have spent more time mastering Derrida’s vocabulary than looking at Rothko’s pictures” (31). Maybe so, but the suspicion would be unfounded (presupposing, as it does, a reductive reading of “palimpsest of traces” that presumptuously confines it to a tidy kind of conceptual impressionism that WOULD be palpably inappropriate as a full description of a visual artwork, as it makes no mention of such factors as color, content, form, and so forth). Yet the kind of deconstructive art criticism Lehman derides is not nearly as unsuitable as he assumes. “Palimpsest of traces” may sound unnecessarily vague, but one shouldn’t just assume that any vagueness is unnecessary. “Traces of WHAT?” We may not fully know, but Rothko’s paintings are exactly that: luminous multi-metaphorical signifiers, picturing not emptiness but FULLNESS, strangely stuffed with traces. Psychic sediment sifted from visual history. The reified residue of art-historical memory? The word “palimpsest” comes from the Greek palimpsestos, a combination of “plain” (i.e. again) and “psestos” (i.e. rubbed smooth). Thus, the word quite precisely contains one of Rothko’s main methods. To assert that the work elides such binaries as birth and death may be less beautiful than what Simon Schama says of the work, that Rothko manifests “the poignancy of our comings and our goings, our entrances and our exits, our births and our deaths; womb, tomb, and everything between” (Power of Art). Words like elide and binary may be less “poetic” in the usual sense, yet gesture in the direction of a similar sense of the sublime. “Elide” comes from the Latin “elidere”, meaning “to crush out”. Pigment, Rothko’s primary tool, is itself a crushed-out substance, and is, in some subliminal sense, always alluding to rebirth, resurrection. So the statement is not as unsuitable as Lehman assumes. --from Christopher Forgues and the Poetry of Comix (2020) by James D Bowman 3
A load of old twaddle which is exactly what a Rothko painting is😂
@@kitswithkaren5003 It may be twaddle, good sir, but it most assuredly is NOT “old”
@@waylonwraith5266 New twaddle then🤗
man i love rothko but this passage is so pretentious
They say there's a sucker born every minute. I say it's way more than one.
Its not art Michael Angelo or Rubens or Titian to name a few that's art.A chimpanzee could do better than this.😂
@@kitswithkaren5003 agree 🤣🤣I’m laughing with the comments of people that see so many things in those colors,love,life,death,good vs evil 😂😂pretentious people are funny.
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@@lacucurrucucu9245 ignorant people are funny :)
this is sublime.
Seeing the Rothko murals and the Rothko trypglitch tri panels jeez people I feel like I painted them myself and that I mostly mastered field theory gosh I would to have loved to paint those paintings those tri panels
Rothko created an "essential" art piece with those works, and I think that says it all about a lot of art.
I see that someone chose to hang Mark Rothko's paintings "in a dimly-lit room." Personally, I would hang them in total darkness.
There is something behind these paintings... it could be cavas idk
So Rothko couldn't bring himself to install his works in such a commercial environment, so now they are valued at approximately $25,000,000- to $35,000,000- by Sotheby's. Sign of the times.
To be fair, Rothko's works were involved in an infamous fraud. His agent arranged for him to have a stipend to live on, whether his works sold or not. Sounds like a good deal, except the agent was working behind the scenes with a gallery, selling Rothko's works - and not letting him know how much they were making off him. They pretty much hid from him how successful he was, all the while paying him a salary as if he were an employee. 😐
I could use 25M.
It’s alive,that’s it !
When I look out of the red window I also see darkness.
I feel like he was just trolling you fine art snobs
Perhaps a deep dark chocolate crusted brownie paired with a small bowl filled to the brim with red wine would express the subtle emotions of the painted canvas .
I think so much is being read into his works that isn't really there. It's incredibly simplistic, yet art historians and intellectuals want to imbue it with all this meaning. The only thing that I can relate to is them saying that it's introspective.
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His work was well placed satire. He must have died laughing.
To those who fail to understand Rothko: You would be changed if you've seen it in person
"The Irascibles " 👍
It is a magnificent painting and I love it a lot.
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Pure crap
Ok I was in the state and fully understand dimensional pictorial images Holy am I high. CHEERS
Experiencing "Black On Maroon", I felt myself to be standing on an unknown, distant red planet, gazing off across its faraway horizon into the endless expanse of Eternity. My human eyes, having evolved seeing masses of color, rejecting the Absolute Blackness, provide moving shapes and shades of deepest indigo, rich burgundy...steely greys... and I am. SPELLBOUND.....
"Accelerate the velocity of his brush.."
Sure..
😂hahahaha
its not just art its the pause button!
There are two empty glass milk bottles. One is a masterpiece & the other is just a bottle. Why?
Funny. Most of you wouldn’t know beauty if it punched you in the face.
I dont get it. At this point these are simple wall ornaments.
Well said.👍
I would recommend watching the video “how to look at a mark Rothko painting” so you can better understand abstract art but basically it serves the same purpose as music which is it tries to create something truly new without taking things from something already existent and without representation of other things. Because of this it’s actually very creative and it’s the reason why this art and music sparks so much emotion. It’s because of how pure and truly new it is. I can’t imagine how good Rothko felt while making these paintings because really it’s human nature to want to create and though we can create new matter, we can try to create completely new images or sounds like in music.
I would imagine that viewing the work the ability to spend time with them might give me a different 😊experience , but all I hear is a creative monologue with esoteric words but see nothing important.
Honestly most words about art are a total snooze fest and complete inventions as regards what a painter was thinking. But yes, "spend time with" Rothko's paintings and something magical may happen. They always look as if they have just been finished, the paint still wet, and you can allow yourself to drift into a trance.
The most beautiful artist in this video...
Is the speaker that can use the most luxurious language imaginable... to describe utter bullshit. The emperor has no clothes.
This is the equivalent of “I didn’t do my homework but I’m still smart so give me a good grade”.
it's kind of a bummer so many people write off rothkos work as simply shapes and colors. i think they're pretty awesome. all it took was actually looking at it. he's not my favorite artist, by any means, but still
@@yodagreenboyz69 most of the people here wouldn’t recognize art unless it fits their adult-like definition of creativity. There’s a reason why some of the best art I’ve ever seen is literally hanging on fridges in a family home. Adults lose their sense of creativity, reducing something subjective into a competition of who is the more technically sound artist.
this inspired me
In a whole every painting is a signature on its own. Look at the Chinese kalligrafie on a canvas… You do not understand and yet you know it is Chinese. And yet you know it is Rothko…
I'm about, to, descend upon the Earth. One simply quite requests,
Weekly manga with spectacular art pieces cost 3 dollars a square painted on a canvas million.
That’s because art isn’t about effort or talent
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@@Juan-wo7zu rothko was incredibly talented and put everything he had into his work. the difference between a mangaka's area of expertise and rothko's is pretty staggering though. color fields are a legitimate form of art, just as much as manga is. they just look different and do different things to the observer.
i've been more impressed looking at a crazy detailed panel of a gundam manga than looking at any rothko piece. but i've been more moved by a rothko piece than anything i've ever seen in a manga.
Someone's going to love me. And when they do, it'll be the biggest mistakes of their lives. We'll end it there I think~
He was aight.
You have to be a madman to enjoy Rothko's paintings
I'll take that as a compliment
dude this guy is fucking dropping gems
Language
I love Rothko, but don't let him bullshit you.
It's just art.
Yeah and what’s art then
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I figure it's pretty much whatever you say it is.
@@Char-nu9ir so you let yourself bullshit yourself hehe circular wank. Or just a unending wank.
What a jerk .
I see windows
He's not the Spokesperson.
Quanto materiale sprecato per quelle croste senza senso fatte passare per opere d'arte.
Started doing oil painting myself a few months ago. I love art. Actual art. I don't get the appeal of Rothko. It looks like something I could do on a weekend, with a ton of paint, of course, to cover a canvas that big.
His #11 sold for like $50 million a few years back. Absolutely nuts. There are some incredible artists who are worth millions IMO with the fine art they made. Rothko is not one of those people.
I don't get it
The only art in his work ,,convince the elite that this is art ..
Exactly
in order to provoke an optical experience in the viewer. just that?????
I should become a painter and called it 'Blank'. what you see is a white canvas painted in black to create an understanding between the blurry line of being blank and blurred. It also infuse layer of dimensions of the grey black paint which indicates the painter state of mind. Yeah, who knows it will sold millions of dollars. 🤔💵
The same people who showed up to listen to Yoko Ono screaming are the same people that fall for this nonsense, Or it's just one big Ponzi scheme.
Be aware that the speaker works for Sotheby's. They have a financial interest in maintaining the myth of Rothko's insipid paintings. They make unbelievable fees selling them. The entire Art Market / Industry works in similar fashion. The rest of us just roll our eyes.
This is true for almost all products that have monetary sales prices attached.
Yeah, it's almost as if people who sell things want to make a profit or something. Crazy, huh?
Speaker : " Rothko intended to create a drama he moves to a inward state where he is seeking to create a really essential and contemplated...................
.............. intended to provoke in viewer ............."
Rothko : oh really ! aaww ok.(whatever.... I was just cleaning my dry paint brush on a canvas)
Rothko made easy art for the dumb and the rich..compare Rothko with for exemple Monet.
Rothko is just lacking in every artistic aspect
Maybe you’re lacking in understanding? Not rothkos fault you’re a simpleton who prefers pretty flowers
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If it wasnt rothko we r talking about,how much would u pay for a painting like this.
Be realistic
@@Tetrahidrokanabinola Everyone loves a Rothko until the moment they find out it isn't a Rothko
@@mykep9112 it’s not the flowers fault that you’re a simpleton who doesn’t appreciate them.
What I mean is sorry if you don’t like Monet. But he was pretty great. Nothing wrong with liking flowers. I’m just getting into Rothko. Don’t know much and it wouldn’t be the same but it doesn’t seem too difficult for a child to recreate. Does that make bad or unworthy? I don’t know! Arts just a fun thing to discuss and debate and appreciate!
You’re wrong, Monet had talent, but not emotional expression, Rothko was the other way round
The narration is pretentious hog wash.🙄
Why show the price? It is totally irrelevant.
I think there's something hidden behind his painting, maybe some secret of his life 😀
Honestly I don't get it 🤷 and I love to paint and abstract is my favorite but this 🤷😩
You should watch the video “how to look at a mark Rothko painting” it’s a really good video that I think explains abstract art decently well
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Stupid as I am I don’t understand
Lack of beauty
Lack of importance
Boredom
A schizophrenic person would bring some excitement into this.
Great paintings; dull commentary
A 2-year baby can paint this and it will come out with brush variants n strokes like this. He needs a scale, red and blue paint with a large brush.
I hear told of the stuffy art gallery owner defending against the inferred 'simplisity' of a Rothko, that turned out to be a counterfeit rendered by an amateur first year art student. To argue the artists work is equal in complexity to any one of the European masters of the late middle ages, is either wishful thinking, diminished quality of vision, or both.
I must be a heathen because I do not get it.
These people talk too much about paintings to sell them for millions,for me its just colors over colors nothing special.
You can literally get the same effect from staring at your bedroom wall if you pretend it was painted by a genius who killed himself. Just saying.
You can’t “literally” get the same effect with your wallpaper or paint on your wall. At most you can get a pale approximation (especially if you are just pretending) because your wallpaper or paint - or whatever your wall looks like - was not painted specifically as a self contained painting by the artist trying to express something unique. You could get the same effect if you had a Rothko poster of the painting on your wall…… which I would highly recommend!!
@@HumanProgress Maybe you didn’t stare long enough.
@@rxw5520 apparently if you stare at a word on a page long enough it loses its meaning and becomes a collection of shapes🙂
@@HumanProgress also true. The mind plays tricks on us, and the placebo effect is still an effect.
@@rxw5520 Yes, it’s very important to be able to know what’s a placebo effect and what isn’t.
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God this speaker is waxing more than just poetic. It’s propaganda! LOL
@@jhb61249 I think it does but then again I'm not an admirer of Rothko's work!
@@jhb61249 maybe you can guess but I am a painter myself. Check out at: www.saatchiart.com/carlbowlbyart
Not good in my opinion. I could replicate that in like thirty seconds - I’m sure my four year old could too
Overeducated wordsmiths try desperately to make you believe that you actually see something that’s not there. They possess a skill that could elevate a clump of excrement to seem otherworldly. Sorry…don’t see it. Doesn’t move me a bit to look any longer than what is necessary for me to realize how marketing and advertising can work it’s spell on the most intelligent, and affluent of our species.
ooh my god? is this a joke? 🤣🤣🤣
Honestly Rothko's work is the biggest con ever. Someone was going to do it eventually.
yick. how could you say that with someone like andy warhol standing right next to him.
This Commentary, by the young chap, is so quite ridiculous, I don't know whether to laugh at its absurdity, or (in some blind, oh-what-the-hell, he's almost convincing), (I've little mental esoteric dynamic to colour-by-numbers on ocassion), (~so shoot me), but still, this is unbelievably sh*t, so much so, I almost believe I need to eat fruit.... *
David Galperin is the type of guy that would stand right next to you at the urinal when several others are vacant.
He's talking pish
Rothko was like let's make the shitiest laziest painting and see if it will sell millions. The plan worked
damn! you sure know nothing about rothko's life, method, or experience as an artist!
You obviously don’t understand what he saw in his paintings, and what others saw as well. Abstract expressionism is a form of art too
So sad people can’t accept visual abstraction. It angers those without expressive energy. We listen to jazz, we recite poetry and we savor food combinations and these things do not anger us. It’s no different with a painting, its no easier to make a good steak au poivre, write a haiku, or jam on an upright bass on a Saturday night but the general public will refuse to digest abstraction in visual art. It’s too much mental work to have a conversation with a Rothko. I was brought to tears when I first saw one in person and it kick started a love for painting that hasn’t left me. I hope one day you meet a rothko and accept it as a valid abstraction, maybe it will show you something you could never conjure yourself, and might not want to conjure. These are rarely happy paintings and I am grateful Rothko went there emotionally to make them, even if it cost him his life.
😂hahahaha
Rothko's 'art' is a joke. It's laughable. There was an art exhibition of Rithko's 'art' and a guy ask people who were leaving the exhibit to look at three paintings outside the exhition, and they had to guess which was a genuine Rothko. They got it correct 1 out of 3. Which proves everything about bs art.
Horrible speaker
What shit.
I love the attempts of the pretentious art dealer who tries to defend spending millions on rothko's smudgy squares. my kid paints like that. art like this is a joke!!!
His paintings remind me of Candy Land cards. I just dont get it. Yes, any kid could paint like this. If only one could turn flowery phrases to convince someone to pay millions to own one!
@@writersloane thats it...thanks...I couldn't remember the name of that kids game I used to play decades ago. Which makes me wonder if thats where Rothko got his "ground breaking" idea.
@@danthomas6587 He probably did. haha
The more the guy in the video tries to explain this 'art', the more it sounds ridiculous. A complete nonsense.
Oh wow, I almost thought art was subjective. My bad, get your kid's work into a museum then I guess
"the artist accelerated his brush strokes from the 1950,s"...........oh ive no doubt he did after he realized idiots wanted to pay silly money for canvases..........i can knock out 50 talentless paintings every single day just like whats on show here and if i get on the good side of an art dealer & critic wanting quick bucks (most would sell their granny btw) - id be making quick bucks too.
What kind of paintings do you do?
@@dw7939 ......i paint squares on walls buddy.......youve to knock the whole wall down when you buy my shit.....my pile of bricks will cost you £200k for a 10ft x 8ft........interested?
Just like that..bro the world is just dumb asf
The great lie of contemporary art...what a shame.
Its literally just two blobby squares. This is crap!
a 5 year old could do better.🤣 my 6 year old daughter could? this has to be a joke. hahaha
Crap. I wouldn't give you $10 for this pos. To me the canvas its painted on has more value than the painting.
Crap. Music is all just noise. How can people enjoy this?
I’m guessing you are one of these people huh
Maybe get some education about abstract art
embarassing
Crap like this exists only to be pretentious. These kinds of paintings should be famous just because they signify gatekeeping artistic imagination.
You lost me when you showed a young woman, sitting by herself in front of a Rothko and she is wearing a mask . Nope. Lost me completely.
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What? Maybe because shes indoors, idiot. 🤦🏼♂️