I've had mine laying about in my room since they were first released, for several years, and they hold up fine. And. They are the best investment I ever made. It's no joke, these things WORK.
It's amazing I was struggling with a mix for weeks now with 2 monitoring systems and 3 different headphones... I got it and in 3 hours I got to fix the whole thing ready for mastering... It's really accurate you save so much time I totally recommend it.
One thing I think that is giving these headphones a lot of mixed reviews might be because they REALLY benefit from a high end DAC and a headphone amp. I have been using these since the first week they came out. Last week I plugged them into my laptop as I was gonna be using them travelling. I think they were almost unusable from what I was used to! These don't replace the signal chain from computer to your ears. You still need a HIGH end soundcard with DAC and preferably a headphone amp to drive them properly. I recommend Benchmark DAC 3 HG3 or an RME Babyface or similar.
@@MOSMASTERING 100% agree ... I switched from SSL2 to an apogee boom Just because of those Headphones and the Difference ist quite mindblowing. Most Interfaces aim for high impedance Headphones which ist a Problem with the vsx
@@Lamarro Absolutely.. people using a minijack out of a laptop (seriously, the actual worst quality output socket you can find) then reviewing the product based on that are being incredibly disingenuous. You need to take into consideration the whole chain. From converting the digital to amplifying it into your ear holes! 😋
If you are wondering whether to buy these... just do it. No joke, they work exactly as advertised and I own ATH-m30x and they aren't much of a worse build. Just don't sit on your headphones and you'll be fine. The cult of people that DESPERATELY don't want to "fall for the hype" is mind boggling. It's not hype. If you've mixed in rooms with good monitors, you'll understand the implications very quickly after giving them shot.
Agree. I've been using them since the first week they were released. I've got a 50k studio that I couldn't go to because of covid lockdown. I've been working from home ever since and these allowed that. I can go from production to mastering on these no problem.
The quality is shit because it's just a rebranded "cheap" headphone, they make you buy those """"special"""" headphones in order to use the plugin. It's an old marketing strategy (and they did it pretty well) and people keep falling xD
I hope people watching this video won't listen to these information as true. What is this advie? " don't buy these headphones if you leave them on the desk"? this video is so missleading. I've just got new VSX and they sound sick
They are just rebranded "cheap" headphones, they make you buy those """"special"""" headphones in order to use the plugin. It's an old marketing strategy (and they did it pretty well) and people keep falling xD
Again, misinformation. VSX uses a technology called binaural psychoacoustics. You need the headset and the software. Not one or the other. The tremendous benefit is that you can change rooms and speakers to fine-tune trouble areas. You're not stuck with one set of speakers or headsets. You can even check your mixs in cars. There is a 30 day, money back guarantee.
this guys just doesn’t want you to get them i watched this before getting them and it got me sceptical a bit, best investment ever and if they break i’ll buy another one, (they’re mixing headphones, don’t sound good for consumer)
I have some , at best I thought they were helping me for bottom end , which is still slightly true , but after the fatigue I just don’t know what I’m hearing in the headphones, with reference track they do help , but so does every other monitoring system , but I still don’t feel like I’m in those rooms
By the way.. when you 'tap' them, and they sound like plastic.. They're designed that way. They have to be solid and light for the drivers to produce the suboctave frequencies. They can easily be made heavier with a bunch of unnecessary metal... Dre. Beats headphones - a teardown showed that their 'weight' was due to the amound of unncessary aluminium in them that makes them feel more expensive. If you're gonna be wearing these ALL DAY. They need to be light and transparent, like they're not even there. Mate, you have NO idea what you're talking about. Producer / Mastering Engineer since 2001 These are the best product I have EVER purchased, aside from my DAC and headphone amp, which made the biggest difference to my entire workflow. "They actually sound pretty good" Man. They sound fucking incredible.
I'm not saying there aren't knowledgable ppl that like and use VSX. But they also seem to attract & convince a lot of broskis who come from ATH-M50X level with little experience, and now turn into a cult mentality, screaming into the face of everyone not saying that VSX is god's greatest gift or sth. The build quality is still shit, even after the headband was fixed. Like, on gearspace there's so many reports of ppl (many of which love VSX from a sound perspective) who are on their n-th set. These are non-repairable throwaway cans, what happens after the warranty is up?
Yet Slate hasn’t given anyone issues sending out replacements. I sold an old pair to someone on eBay that broke on them months later. Slate even sent them a replacement.
They do feel cheap and dont sound better than a equivilant headphones in terms of price range, when used without the software. Mixes do translate better using them though and thats the point. I heard they were in the process of making a systemwide for VSX which will be a game changer. I know there are unofficial ways of doing it but ill happily wait. The build quality isnt the worst ive seen, but i am worried about the leather peeling. I had the m50x before and the leather started peeling after 2 years of daily constant use. They definitely serve their purpose which is why i can get over the inferior audio quality compared to my dt1990s.
Vsx is by far the best investment I’ve made in my entire pro musician life. These things translate 100% of the time, worth every penny. No more struggling with doubts on what I’m hearing, what I’m hearing translates every where, end of story .
Agree. I've been using them since the first week they were released. I've got a 50k studio that I couldn't go to because of covid lockdown. I've been working from home ever since and these allowed that. I can go from production to mastering on these no problem.
They're for making music in the studio. Not touring. Would you take your monitors from the studio on tour? This is what they are. A piece of gear that help you replace all the soundproofing and monitors in your studio.
You should be ashamed of yourself for your complete lack of understanding what these are made for. They aren’t made to play pickleball in. They are meant to be quiet and accurate to pick out inaccuracies in your mix. Doofus
Yet Mike Dean mixed and mastered the whole Utopia album on them, and refused to work on the album without them. No speakers involved in the preparation of the album, just those headphones
Lmao wtf is this “review” I own hd 600s, sundaras, and these easily compete sound wise for being closed back. Literally the ONLY drawback to them is mediocre build quality. The system is very straight forward to use and no longer do I HAVE to be at the studio desk to get quality mixes. This is definitely a more complete and well rounded room sim package than anything else out there but yeah don’t buy them if you plan on abusing your equipment.
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I've had mine laying about in my room since they were first released, for several years, and they hold up fine. And. They are the best investment I ever made. It's no joke, these things WORK.
Wtf are you a carpenter? How do they sound bruh
LOL!
😂😂😂😂😂😂 GD!
It's amazing I was struggling with a mix for weeks now with 2 monitoring systems and 3 different headphones... I got it and in 3 hours I got to fix the whole thing ready for mastering... It's really accurate you save so much time I totally recommend it.
This has to be a fake comment
@@TierHarribelagreed
id wear headphones made of cardboard if they deliver the SOUND that i care most about lol
facts
One thing I think that is giving these headphones a lot of mixed reviews might be because they REALLY benefit from a high end DAC and a headphone amp.
I have been using these since the first week they came out.
Last week I plugged them into my laptop as I was gonna be using them travelling. I think they were almost unusable from what I was used to!
These don't replace the signal chain from computer to your ears.
You still need a HIGH end soundcard with DAC and preferably a headphone amp to drive them properly.
I recommend Benchmark DAC 3 HG3
or an RME Babyface or similar.
@@MOSMASTERING 100% agree ... I switched from SSL2 to an apogee boom Just because of those Headphones and the Difference ist quite mindblowing. Most Interfaces aim for high impedance Headphones which ist a Problem with the vsx
@@Lamarro
Absolutely.. people using a minijack out of a laptop (seriously, the actual worst quality output socket you can find) then reviewing the product based on that are being incredibly disingenuous.
You need to take into consideration the whole chain.
From converting the digital to amplifying it into your ear holes! 😋
He recommends 99% of producers and mixers don’t need this when 99% of producers and mixers say these headphones are amazing in all fields
not helpful
If you are wondering whether to buy these... just do it. No joke, they work exactly as advertised and I own ATH-m30x and they aren't much of a worse build. Just don't sit on your headphones and you'll be fine. The cult of people that DESPERATELY don't want to "fall for the hype" is mind boggling. It's not hype. If you've mixed in rooms with good monitors, you'll understand the implications very quickly after giving them shot.
Agree. I've been using them since the first week they were released. I've got a 50k studio that I couldn't go to because of covid lockdown. I've been working from home ever since and these allowed that. I can go from production to mastering on these no problem.
@MOSMASTERING are you a mix and master engineer??
@@dell74877 I am indeed.
Did you actually use the software?
Seriously... I've been using mine for a few days and it's easily the best gear purchase I've ever made. My mind is blown.
Homie talked so much and said absolutely nothing 😂
If they're good enough for Mike Dean I'll take my chances 😂
The quality is shit because it's just a rebranded "cheap" headphone, they make you buy those """"special"""" headphones in order to use the plugin. It's an old marketing strategy (and they did it pretty well) and people keep falling xD
I hope people watching this video won't listen to these information as true. What is this advie? " don't buy these headphones if you leave them on the desk"? this video is so missleading. I've just got new VSX and they sound sick
They sound great… but it is hard for me to look past the China build quality. So flimsy!
This guy needs to review himself rather the headphones.
They are just rebranded "cheap" headphones, they make you buy those """"special"""" headphones in order to use the plugin. It's an old marketing strategy (and they did it pretty well) and people keep falling xD
Again, misinformation. VSX uses a technology called binaural psychoacoustics. You need the headset and the software. Not one or the other.
The tremendous benefit is that you can change rooms and speakers to fine-tune trouble areas. You're not stuck with one set of speakers or headsets. You can even check your mixs in cars.
There is a 30 day, money back guarantee.
this guys just doesn’t want you to get them i watched this before getting them and it got me sceptical a bit, best investment ever and if they break i’ll buy another one, (they’re mixing headphones, don’t sound good for consumer)
I have some , at best I thought they were helping me for bottom end , which is still slightly true , but after the fatigue I just don’t know what I’m hearing in the headphones, with reference track they do help , but so does every other monitoring system , but I still don’t feel like I’m in those rooms
By the way.. when you 'tap' them, and they sound like plastic.. They're designed that way. They have to be solid and light for the drivers to produce the suboctave frequencies. They can easily be made heavier with a bunch of unnecessary metal...
Dre. Beats headphones - a teardown showed that their 'weight' was due to the amound of unncessary aluminium in them that makes them feel more expensive.
If you're gonna be wearing these ALL DAY. They need to be light and transparent, like they're not even there.
Mate, you have NO idea what you're talking about.
Producer / Mastering Engineer since 2001
These are the best product I have EVER purchased, aside from my DAC and headphone amp, which made the biggest difference to my entire workflow.
"They actually sound pretty good"
Man. They sound fucking incredible.
So passionate. That DAC and headphone amp must really be something. Thanks for sharing!
I'm not saying there aren't knowledgable ppl that like and use VSX. But they also seem to attract & convince a lot of broskis who come from ATH-M50X level with little experience, and now turn into a cult mentality, screaming into the face of everyone not saying that VSX is god's greatest gift or sth.
The build quality is still shit, even after the headband was fixed. Like, on gearspace there's so many reports of ppl (many of which love VSX from a sound perspective) who are on their n-th set. These are non-repairable throwaway cans, what happens after the warranty is up?
It is difficult to overstate how cheap they feel
Yet Slate hasn’t given anyone issues sending out replacements. I sold an old pair to someone on eBay that broke on them months later. Slate even sent them a replacement.
I think you are wrong
Best investment I’ve made in a loooooooong time😊
They do feel cheap and dont sound better than a equivilant headphones in terms of price range, when used without the software.
Mixes do translate better using them though and thats the point.
I heard they were in the process of making a systemwide for VSX which will be a game changer. I know there are unofficial ways of doing it but ill happily wait.
The build quality isnt the worst ive seen, but i am worried about the leather peeling. I had the m50x before and the leather started peeling after 2 years of daily constant use.
They definitely serve their purpose which is why i can get over the inferior audio quality compared to my dt1990s.
They fixed the build quality and sent me a new pair when the old ones broke so this really isn’t an issue.
Vsx is by far the best investment I’ve made in my entire pro musician life. These things translate 100% of the time, worth every penny. No more struggling with doubts on what I’m hearing, what I’m hearing translates every where, end of story .
Agree. I've been using them since the first week they were released.
I've got a 50k studio that I couldn't go to because of covid lockdown.
I've been working from home ever since and these allowed that. I can go
from production to mastering on these no problem.
Its a shame the software isnt available without the headphones
Thats because the Headphones are built to be used with the software. You then use the software to help your mix.
yep it been the main reason why i wont buy them. any headphones i buy will need to be sturdy for touring purposes.
They're for making music in the studio.
Not touring.
Would you take your monitors from the studio on tour?
This is what they are. A piece of gear that help you replace all the soundproofing and monitors in your studio.
This criticism is so weak it will make people want to buy it.
Respect your equipment
I haven't seen ANY social media, because I don't use it.
Maybe they should spend some of their advertising budget on fixing the the headphones.
🤦🏾♂️ this is.... yea... ok
Thanks… I… will
@@Tutorial_ism will what? Delete this joke of a video? Or maybe educate yourself on how to review a product on its use?
Cool man
You should be ashamed of yourself for your complete lack of understanding what these are made for. They aren’t made to play pickleball in. They are meant to be quiet and accurate to pick out inaccuracies in your mix. Doofus
Not sure why as I haven’t seen it in at least a decade, but your comment totally came out in Cartman from South Park’s voice!
@@Tutorial_ism I’d be willing to bet a doofus like you has the whole South Park series on DVD
Yet Mike Dean mixed and mastered the whole Utopia album on them, and refused to work on the album without them. No speakers involved in the preparation of the album, just those headphones
If only I had known that earlier there is no way I would have mentioned the build quality!
Clickbait
Build quality really? If the sounds right the tool is right
Lmao wtf is this “review” I own hd 600s, sundaras, and these easily compete sound wise for being closed back. Literally the ONLY drawback to them is mediocre build quality. The system is very straight forward to use and no longer do I HAVE to be at the studio desk to get quality mixes. This is definitely a more complete and well rounded room sim package than anything else out there but yeah don’t buy them if you plan on abusing your equipment.
Unpopular opinion
Lol
Lol😂