This battle was tight as hell, both of them killed it really.. it's been a long time actually since Grindtime when it was like that.. both battlers coming super-nice at each other. But i give it to Thesaurus, cus it' obvious he pulled a rabbit out of his hat that whole last round, it was ill.
I give it to TheSaurus based on the flips (gotta respect the freestyle), and harder punches. The crowd was def not biased, they showed John love, but Saurus was funnier. Only round I think John took was maybe the second, but honestly I thought he even lost that one.
Wow Thesaurus was saying some shit! Never a fan of him but his punches were HARD, all three rounds. And I was honestly expecting JJDD to be wack but he came with some shit too. Great battle from both of them. That's super rare in 2013.
lol 2-1? i say all to TheSaurus.. all john john did was repeat his lines.. Saurus had punch lines.. better rhymes per min.. better story lines.. that let to a better finish..
I agree but I thought JJDD killed it the first round, so did The Saurus but in my opinion JJDD had a slight edge over him in the first round, the the other 2 rounds were easily The Saurus'. He bodied JJDD the last 2 rounds.
Some of both of their hottest bars were recycle punchlines from other people but the battle was pretty good otherwise. Thesaurus' verses got better and John's were getting worse as the rounds went on though.
why do people say "bars over jokes" its the same thing if it rhymes it is a bar if it is witty then it is a joke ,,,call it a joke bar or what ever but it's a bar..... oh and Thesaurus won by far....every round easy....Can't believe he didn't mention the guys giant purple shirt though...oh well..
John got to this guy because he was reacting to all his bars. Now the crowd hyped ALL of The Saurus's bars, he even showed us the crowd was on his side the entire time in the beginning of his 3rd Round. So the crowd is automatically ruled out in this battle ONCE again. JJDD 2-1
You can argue 2-1 either way depending on what style you like better. I gave it to JJDD 2-1 w/ Sauras taking the 2nd. I'm just happy it was a GREAT fuckin' battle. Thanks KOTD!
The saurus won! I listened to it twice before judging, but john john lost 1 & 3. 1 was extremely close, but the saurus edged it with a almost flawless round. (This guy puts verses together way better than he gets credit for) and he clearly won round 3. But I could see it going either way.
Thesaurus 3-0 no body John John went tf in but thesaurus was jus better and he rebuttaled sum of John hardest bars wit haymakers on top of that I only gave thesaurus the 3rd cuz John John said sum familiar soundin shit though like I'm pretty sure he bit majority of those bars
Don't understand the hate for the Cinnabon line. It wasn't even a punch line, just a set up. And it's the exact type of set up URL dudes use all the time. If B Magic spit that scheme y'all would say it's hot.
great battle. can't tell who really won based on my first listen. both had dope punches and nice schemes. all of these Battle Of The Bay matches are sick!
The Saurus acts the way every other battler should act during other peoples rounds, just having a good time and acknowledging when a dope bar was spit without making a scene or interrupting his opponent. Dope battle regardless but i give the edge to John John Da Don though.
How tha hell can you say John John Clearly Won? You trippin. This wasn't a body. I was there, And it looked like John died on stage. His whole Times 2 scheme in Round 1 was dope. It looks debatable on camera. S/O to both them niggaz. SkrillaSamTV
I love how hard the crowd reacts to TheSaurus saying "ya rounds soft like a Cinnabon." You're probably eating too much Cinnabon if you fucks with that line. Sad that American and Canadian crowds can so easily sleep on literary and film references in battles but perk up when they hear the mention of an over-priced, nutrionless food-thing you buy when you're depressed in the mall.
right...cuz crowds in battle rap should only react to associative wordplay which makes no fucking sense, but it has some words which sound similar/are connected to each other in some way. Think about it this way - I'm cappin tools til the iron lands and starts doublin' shit...first of all,how does iron double anything? how do guns double? And how does that line says anything exept "I will shoot you"? On the other hand, 'every round softer then a cinnabon" is a comparison that goes straight either way, and applies to a real thing...
Like I said above its about bars creativity Benjamin Thesaurus is ok, but battle rap has evolved so much that simple metaphors and similes are easily caught we aren't slow we need something more complex to think about while listening like the Vet scheme the DNA scheme or the Times 2. Just because JJDD sounds the same doesn't mean he recycled listen and you can hear. Thesaurus is good but he isnt someone that can survive in the URL the league that matters. Thesaurus D-League comp. vs JJDD NBA comp.
VeB what was so thought out about comparing his softness to a cinnabon and how would he know that did he squeeze john or bite into him stfu and stop hating don't demand unbiased judgment if you cant add logic to both sides. This culture was created by African Americans so we set the standard for whats dirt and whats good bars. Everyone else either get with the wave and mold your own style from it or fall behind and end up on the short end of the stick every time.
Even though all the line says is I will shoot you it's good cause of the word association not the meaning it's not amazing but it's better than softer than a cinnamon or whatever
JJDD clearly. Thesaurus used the bar stealing, name stealing concept the whole battle. Kept speaking on the multiple choice when JJDD didn't use it since SM2 vs Hitman Holla
BOWTIE6585 And what did John John talk about the whole battle. Gun Barz. At least Thesaurus had personals like John John is a copy cat, his period schemes he has. To me, Thesaurus easy. Gun Barz don't impress me. Facts about other people due
Yea, I'm sure u can Google Ron Jeremy cause Marilyn jus talked about... but my pops had this vhs n ppl aren't born fat... @zachary madden ur right kinda suspect on the lo huh...
John John won. 2-1 maybe even 3-0 the last round might be slightly debatable. Thank you KOTD for putting on quality battles without all the noise in the background and extra shenanigans
backhand wimbledon flip.-JC Calender/day/box flip - lotta zay Dublin Ireland flip - Chilla Jones Revamp - nuborn JJDD IS CREATIVE BUT ALL THAT BITING JUST TAKES AWAY FROM THE MOMENTUM. JJDD 2-1 WOULD BE A 3-0 IF HE DIDNT BITE SO MUCH
If Everything you Just Typed is True and can be Verified 100s of comments of Jjdd Winning must immediately be withdrawn im about to look this up, Thanks
I remember after the Arcane vs Dizaster battle Smack was on a radio show and he said that he would NEVER allow a battler in the URL if they "bought bars"... But he is such a hypocrite. He acts as though DNA and Charlie aren't writing together or other battlers too. And what is the difference between what JJDD is doing and what Arcane did... I am not in anyway defending nor condoning what Arcane did... I am just pointing out the hypocrisy in his demeaning of Arcane. If he is going to penalize and bash one artist he should be ready to do the same w/ his OWN artist. However, that being said... W/ out taking into account the biting I think JJDD bodied The Saurus.
Clev Eland John John isn't exactly biting, he just tries to use schemes others used before him in a new way. Sometimes it works (for instance, his "give you a shot but you a vet" works since it is kinda a personal), sometimes it doesnt ("cal/end/her" or "DNA swab his grill").
VeB How is it NOT biting when the concept was used in a battle... And RECENTLY too... Its not to say as if he used something common like (and this is just for example purposes) if he were to say " I'm built Ford Tough" and someone else used "Ford built me tough" where both were using a play on the Ford car company slogan. He said Cal end her... That is too specific for it to be a flip on a bar... It is a clear bite off of Tay Rocs line he used in a battle recently. And the thing is he does this CONSTANTLY.
Clev Eland how do we know that JJDD watched every battle in the world? It's pretty eazy to come across a similar idea, especially if you do gun bars, since it's extremely narrow and overly used field. Every "street rapper" recycles like crazy - not because they bite others, but just because they have a narrow field of subjects they rap about. It's bound to happen that somone has the same comparison for shooting a gun at someone, especially when hundreds of people talk about that stuff
John John clearly won this battle. I give Saurus the last round because I like the angle more, but it's a clear for win. JJ went in, that "2 times" scheme in the beginning is fuckin' FIRE!No one has ever flipped that on Saurus as well as he did. John John 2-1.
That's funny cause..I am a doctor lol.. But dude, you won.. I am completely demoralized... You just won the Internet... Bet you feel awesome.. I mean the Muscular Dystrophy line? I mean come on.. Genius. Good job
rd 1 - jjdd (thesaurus came decent but jjdd edged it) rd 2 - thesaurus (jjdd came wit it too but thesaurus took this rd) rd 3 - jjdd 2-1 JJDD.. this was a good battle, goodlook KOTD!!
JJDD 2nd round is what won him this battle... That concept DNA, Charlie Clips and Pass was crazy... The Saurus was ok but in all honesty JJDD bodied him.
i respect ur point.. it could go 3-0 or 2-1 jjdd to me... i just died and threw my fuckin laptop in the air on thesaurus' bar/nameflip - about recyclin and sayin john again, lmfaoo
Sounds like the "Fair Enough" guy is back for an encore.lol. Bullshit aside this battle was pretty close though jjdd had some impressive bars in his earlier rounds saurus had some heat aswell but it seemed like both kept their daggers at home. No one really capitalized in their rounds in my opinion
Dope battle Thesaurus won this.. not slightly but 2-1 comfortably. JJDD has a bunch of old wordplay,man,them shits are 99 old.. Calendar,Ireland Dublin,etc. Geezuus! Why not throw an engagement ring/Hoarse-Horse line in there too... I wanted JJDD to win,just because he represents URL type of style.. but Damn,Thesaurus just clowned him here.. he didn't even take him serious,but landed some dope punches & rebuttals.. Jonathan Jonathan shit was funny.. JJDD had some moments.. I'll give him RD2 slightly.. he came with bars,and Saurus slightly miss stepped.. #angryfanmovement
John John is the truth. I'm a Saurus fan, and I think he won, even though it wasn't his best overall battle. But if JJDD's last round was better he would have taken it 2-1. Nice battle.
Thesaurus got this easy, no body though. People say Thesaurus has dickriders but jesus, all I see is people going fullout crazy for JJDD in the comment section. All JJDD had was simple schemes with over-elaborate word association bars that didn't make sense half the time. People get so amped over wordplay and it's great when it works on multiple levels and it's blended well with well-crafted rhyme schemes but JJDD's shit is just a bunch of relafed phrases sloppily strung together. Thats my opinion anyway, this shit is completely subjective nowadays.
its about bars Benjamin Thesaurus is ok, but battle rap has evolved so much that simple metaphors and similes are easily caught we aren't slow we need something more complex to think about while listening like the Vet scheme the DNA scheme or the Times 2. Just because JJDD sounds the same doesn't mean he recycled listen and you can hear. Thesaurus is good but he isnt someone that can survive in the URL the league that matters. Thesaurus D-League comp. vs JJDD NBA comp.
I kinda agree that jj word association was basic but that's cause of the delivery and flow the way he put the bars together and set them up if he flowed like thesaurus did it would have been a lot more convincing but all the thesaurus really did was flow, event though he built his lines up better a lot of them were anti climactic and kinda weak.
Emeka Ilukwe No such thing KOTD bring url guys to raise their views use ya head with me here. Who would look at someone they dont recognize as a popular name or a a guy with a history of either notable wins or coming with good bars. Those other guys are no names to most of us. I never seen Thesaurus battle in my life and probably wont ever again unless he battles a "URL guy"
Who asked about Wimbledon fool? I know he was running a tennis scheme and he used "wimbling" to slide Wimbledon in, but my question was "what is wimbling?" And that question was tongue-in-cheek. I know there's no such word as "wimbling". I was just being humorous, and going over your head apparently.
Ms.Fit used that Calender line against Chayna Ashley 1st and did it way better. John is nice BUT he does bite a lot. Good battle. The Saurus had a weak 3rd round so I'll give it to John 2-1 (Assuming none of the other bars were stolen).
The Saurus took this one easily. JJTD's punches and wordplay didn't even make sense half the time. Like what does it mean for one's legs to "wimbledon?" Stupid and stupid people in the audience cheer for nonsense punches that make no sense. The Saurus says smart ass shit that tends to go over most people's heads.
Fahk Ewe . Its a play on tha word wimbleton which is where tennis matches r played...he sayin i bet ur legs would "wimble then"...wimble might b a actual word but he was reachin a lil bit for trimbling or wobbling as in legs shaking
KOTD so far has the best battles these days due to all great rounds and even great third rounds. Plus the battles aren't long as fuck like SMACK battles.
Sayin JJDD and hollow need to battle for the name is STUPID!!! It's like if I decide to be a battler and name myself Jimmy Hoffa...o so now should Math battle me for HIS name??? fuck no, even if JJDD beats hollow he would be a name thief!!! (And bar thief)
JJ 3-0 honestly both of these guys are usually noon interesting to me. I was live at this event, turnt up I don't remember this battle live but jj had bars and changed his shit up. Thesaurus didn't change it up until the very end pyramid scheme weak shit... Jj 3-0
Thank you everyone for watching and sharing. Salute
This is great all these years later.. respect!!!
John john can be so corny sometimes, but this was one of his best performances. I think TheSaurus got it.
thesaurus: softer than a cinnabon.
guy in background: shit delicious though
😂😂😂
He zoomed in too hahahaha
12:21
This battle was tight as hell, both of them killed it really.. it's been a long time actually since Grindtime when it was like that.. both battlers coming super-nice at each other. But i give it to Thesaurus, cus it' obvious he pulled a rabbit out of his hat that whole last round, it was ill.
This was just a really, really good battle. Totally different styles but both brought it. JJDD DID do a rebuttal in his second. Great battle!
i fucks wit ol boy but i gotta give this 1 2 JJDD
I give it to TheSaurus based on the flips (gotta respect the freestyle), and harder punches. The crowd was def not biased, they showed John love, but Saurus was funnier.
Only round I think John took was maybe the second, but honestly I thought he even lost that one.
John John rebuttaled (freestyled) also.
i agree that the crowd was not biased but you gotta admit that they were gassing some thesaurus bars that werent even that hot
Gil Gonzalez 1 line rebuttal that wasnt that hard
good thing john john took his backpack off so he could battle......
LMAO
LMFAO this made me laugh for some reason
john john trying to think he piccolo. he act like taking off the weighted accessories was going to make him rap better.
RJAY SAT LOL...GOOD ONE
Yo, The Saurus kinda reminds me of Bill Murray !
💀💀💀💀💀💀💯
yo!!!!
Oh man fuck u dude now everytime i see thesaurus i see bill murray lmao
Hahaha
I could see that
The Intro was deep. Now That's What I called inspiration Real talk. That even inspire me to do my best in life
Wow Thesaurus was saying some shit! Never a fan of him but his punches were HARD, all three rounds. And I was honestly expecting JJDD to be wack but he came with some shit too. Great battle from both of them. That's super rare in 2013.
thesaurus got this 2-1 , most definitive win Thesaurus has had in a while! JohnJohn is nice tho
LMAO!!! AT 12:24
Thesaurus: "and how every round is soft as a cinnamonbon"
Guy Behind Him in Blue Hat: "that's Delicious"
Thesaurus opening rebuttal...we're going to have a serious math problem...lol.
everyone stop whining about who they thought won, this battle was fuckin sick and both of these guys went hard. battle rap wins
Dumbfoundead in the back! Glad to see that he still shows up to these things.
Saurus 2-1 very close battle imo, JJDD did win the first though good battle.
Even his own name he like, JOHN....WOOOO I GOTTA SAY THAT AGAIN!
Leave your whole circle full of lead like a scantron
Graphite is used in pencils now, led has not been used in a long long fucking time lol. Still an amazing bar though
Mehh.. the setup was dope, but scantron flips have been used a lot. A whole lot. Still I'd say this was 2-1 Thesaurus
"how every round softer than a cinnabon"
"THAT'S DELICIOUS"
Lol . I cought that
JJDD 3-0 The Saurus had a dope 2nd though
Not a huge TheSaurus fan, but he won 2-1.
lol 2-1? i say all to TheSaurus.. all john john did was repeat his lines.. Saurus had punch lines.. better rhymes per min.. better story lines.. that let to a better finish..
I agree but I thought JJDD killed it the first round, so did The Saurus but in my opinion JJDD had a slight edge over him in the first round, the the other 2 rounds were easily The Saurus'. He bodied JJDD the last 2 rounds.
TheSaurus went harder in round 1 & 2 than the last one. It was weak. JJDD took 1 & 3
At the end of the day, it's all opinion based. Even the judging lol
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Damn, John John is basic.
Dallas Bagley the legend bar was fiee
Nobody cares who won. This was a decent performance from both guys- the wordplay was dope.
thesaurus' first line/rebuttal was sick and off the top
"That back and forth over the net..." Didn't catch that the first time but that's an old Heartless line.
First: JJDD (clearly) Second: The Saurus (clearly) Third: Debatable but I gave it to JJDD but wouldn't have a problem if you gave it to The Saurus
Some of both of their hottest bars were recycle punchlines from other people but the battle was pretty good otherwise. Thesaurus' verses got better and John's were getting worse as the rounds went on though.
serious math problem rebuttle was FUCKING DOPE !
john john's first angle opening round one was very original and dope as fuck
why do people say "bars over jokes" its the same thing if it rhymes it is a bar if it is witty then it is a joke ,,,call it a joke bar or what ever but it's a bar.....
oh and Thesaurus won by far....every round easy....Can't believe he didn't mention the guys giant purple shirt though...oh well..
John got to this guy because he was reacting to all his bars. Now the crowd hyped ALL of The Saurus's bars, he even showed us the crowd was on his side the entire time in the beginning of his 3rd Round. So the crowd is automatically ruled out in this battle ONCE again.
JJDD 2-1
I liked Grind Time, the vintage 2009 days. Nowadays, battle rap videos seem all hype, too much other shit that distracts from the actual battle.
you are like so old school. now you're a cool guy
shit's doin good numbers so far! thanks for the support folks!
John john stole that ireland dublin line from chilla jones
You sure?
When John used the "cinnamon / send em in" set up in RD 3 instantly thought how Eurgh called that set up out at Vendetta.
Jon jon has talent he doesn't need to steal bars...idk why he continues to do it.
jeez those flips by jj in rd 1 were some of the most clever shit i ever heard... fckin flames
Rd 1...JJDD clearly
agreed
Rd 2 The Saurus and RD 3 The Saurus
You can argue 2-1 either way depending on what style you like better. I gave it to JJDD 2-1 w/ Sauras taking the 2nd. I'm just happy it was a GREAT fuckin' battle. Thanks KOTD!
Jon 2-1
The saurus won! I listened to it twice before judging, but john john lost 1 & 3. 1 was extremely close, but the saurus edged it with a almost flawless round. (This guy puts verses together way better than he gets credit for) and he clearly won round 3. But I could see it going either way.
Thesaurus 3-0 no body John John went tf in but thesaurus was jus better and he rebuttaled sum of John hardest bars wit haymakers on top of that I only gave thesaurus the 3rd cuz John John said sum familiar soundin shit though like I'm pretty sure he bit majority of those bars
Classic .. My first time watching thesaurus battle .. I'm a URL fan .. Both went in ., debatable battle .. Respect to KOTD
You've got a lot of The Saurus to catch up on!
Don't understand the hate for the Cinnabon line. It wasn't even a punch line, just a set up. And it's the exact type of set up URL dudes use all the time. If B Magic spit that scheme y'all would say it's hot.
Friar Tuck was in robin hood and Little john. Friar Tucked like fryer tucked. I guess the saurus calls a gun a fryer.
Dan Fitty Youre right, Fryer makes no sense . Llama, Heater, Hammer, Ratchet, Banger, and Mili make perfect sense tho
Another ill BOTB6 battle! Sick bars, back and forth, tight to judge and both real chill! This the shit everyone likes to see.
oh, and "the saurus? you got ya ass whooped"
great battle. can't tell who really won based on my first listen. both had dope punches and nice schemes. all of these Battle Of The Bay matches are sick!
12:23 "@ fat black dude "that's delicious" HAHA
they zoomed on his face as well XD
The Saurus acts the way every other battler should act during other peoples rounds, just having a good time and acknowledging when a dope bar was spit without making a scene or interrupting his opponent. Dope battle regardless but i give the edge to John John Da Don though.
John John da Don 2 to 1
The Saurus sweats on all of his battles. Even on those cold Canadian events.
Looking at The Saurus makes my skin crawl.
Of course, that doesn't discredit is bars. All I'm saying is his hygiene don't fly with me.
:[ You're not nice.
reading this made me lose a brain cell
BUt you look like youre being forced to smile in your profile pic...awkward...
I appreciate your opinion but what does that have to do with The Saurus's hygiene?
It was a good battle! JJDD never disappoints... You I'm mad that my apple spellcheck knew I was going to write JJDD when I typed jj
How tha hell can you say John John Clearly Won? You trippin. This wasn't a body. I was there, And it looked like John died on stage. His whole Times 2 scheme in Round 1 was dope. It looks debatable on camera. S/O to both them niggaz.
SkrillaSamTV
That's what I'm saying.. i don't even think Saurus lost.
TheGDOTPRODUCTIONS real shit tho.. it looked AND felt different being there. Watchin it online definetly has a totally diff feel
"leave his full circle in led like a scantron" damnnn
I love how hard the crowd reacts to TheSaurus saying "ya rounds soft like a Cinnabon." You're probably eating too much Cinnabon if you fucks with that line. Sad that American and Canadian crowds can so easily sleep on literary and film references in battles but perk up when they hear the mention of an over-priced, nutrionless food-thing you buy when you're depressed in the mall.
right...cuz crowds in battle rap should only react to associative wordplay which makes no fucking sense, but it has some words which sound similar/are connected to each other in some way. Think about it this way - I'm cappin tools til the iron lands and starts doublin' shit...first of all,how does iron double anything? how do guns double? And how does that line says anything exept "I will shoot you"? On the other hand, 'every round softer then a cinnabon" is a comparison that goes straight either way, and applies to a real thing...
Like I said above its about bars creativity Benjamin Thesaurus is ok, but battle rap has evolved so much that simple metaphors and similes are easily caught we aren't slow we need something more complex to think about while listening like the Vet scheme the DNA scheme or the Times 2. Just because JJDD sounds the same doesn't mean he recycled listen and you can hear. Thesaurus is good but he isnt someone that can survive in the URL the league that matters. Thesaurus D-League comp. vs JJDD NBA comp.
VeB what was so thought out about comparing his softness to a cinnabon and how would he know that did he squeeze john or bite into him stfu and stop hating don't demand unbiased judgment if you cant add logic to both sides. This culture was created by African Americans so we set the standard for whats dirt and whats good bars. Everyone else either get with the wave and mold your own style from it or fall behind and end up on the short end of the stick every time.
Even though all the line says is I will shoot you it's good cause of the word association not the meaning it's not amazing but it's better than softer than a cinnamon or whatever
Doubling as in split in two
tight battle! really liked JJDD's opening scheme!
JJDD clearly. Thesaurus used the bar stealing, name stealing concept the whole battle. Kept speaking on the multiple choice when JJDD didn't use it since SM2 vs Hitman Holla
He used the multiple choice against caustic...
Even still, he drove the same angles the entire battles, subpar punches too
BOWTIE6585 And what did John John talk about the whole battle. Gun Barz. At least Thesaurus had personals like John John is a copy cat, his period schemes he has. To me, Thesaurus easy. Gun Barz don't impress me. Facts about other people due
They did their thing and I'm a fan of both, but John Johns first and second rounds were siiiick!
the saurus killed john john in round one lmao That don cheadle line was crazy
Marilyn Manson can reach his, and Ron Jeremy also ducked his own... #ijs
Tony Williams
You've seen this? or heard it? Ron Jeremy is like 350lbs nigga you ever see that gut? i highly doubt he can
Yea, I'm sure u can Google Ron Jeremy cause Marilyn jus talked about... but my pops had this vhs n ppl aren't born fat... @zachary madden ur right kinda suspect on the lo huh...
John John won. 2-1 maybe even 3-0 the last round might be slightly debatable. Thank you KOTD for putting on quality battles without all the noise in the background and extra shenanigans
JJDD Killed Saurus.. Don't Mind the people saying Saurus won.. they don't know any better..
JJDD first bar gave me chills. It was light but his delivery is always on point.
Jj first round was dope then he went with that ceited nursery rhyme shit. Thesaurus bodied him in the third. End of story.
***** creative comment u thought of that one on ur own?
To be honest I used clown on The Saurus heavy but I was quick to judge , he's very talented
John John Da Don def won that 3-0 Bars!!!
I haven't even gotten to the battle yet and that had to be the hardest intro ever! Was that CT Fletcher talking?
backhand wimbledon flip.-JC
Calender/day/box flip - lotta zay
Dublin Ireland flip - Chilla Jones
Revamp - nuborn
JJDD IS CREATIVE BUT ALL THAT BITING JUST TAKES AWAY FROM THE MOMENTUM.
JJDD 2-1 WOULD BE A 3-0 IF HE DIDNT BITE SO MUCH
If Everything you Just Typed is True and can be Verified 100s of comments of Jjdd Winning must immediately be withdrawn
im about to look this up,
Thanks
I remember after the Arcane vs Dizaster battle Smack was on a radio show and he said that he would NEVER allow a battler in the URL if they "bought bars"... But he is such a hypocrite. He acts as though DNA and Charlie aren't writing together or other battlers too. And what is the difference between what JJDD is doing and what Arcane did... I am not in anyway defending nor condoning what Arcane did... I am just pointing out the hypocrisy in his demeaning of Arcane. If he is going to penalize and bash one artist he should be ready to do the same w/ his OWN artist.
However, that being said... W/ out taking into account the biting I think JJDD bodied The Saurus.
Clev Eland John John isn't exactly biting, he just tries to use schemes others used before him in a new way. Sometimes it works (for instance, his "give you a shot but you a vet" works since it is kinda a personal), sometimes it doesnt ("cal/end/her" or "DNA swab his grill").
VeB How is it NOT biting when the concept was used in a battle... And RECENTLY too... Its not to say as if he used something common like (and this is just for example purposes) if he were to say " I'm built Ford Tough" and someone else used "Ford built me tough" where both were using a play on the Ford car company slogan. He said Cal end her... That is too specific for it to be a flip on a bar... It is a clear bite off of Tay Rocs line he used in a battle recently. And the thing is he does this CONSTANTLY.
Clev Eland how do we know that JJDD watched every battle in the world? It's pretty eazy to come across a similar idea, especially if you do gun bars, since it's extremely narrow and overly used field. Every "street rapper" recycles like crazy - not because they bite others, but just because they have a narrow field of subjects they rap about. It's bound to happen that somone has the same comparison for shooting a gun at someone, especially when hundreds of people talk about that stuff
John John clearly won this battle. I give Saurus the last round because I like the angle more, but it's a clear for win. JJ went in, that "2 times" scheme in the beginning is fuckin' FIRE!No one has ever flipped that on Saurus as well as he did. John John 2-1.
Saurus needs to get a normal job.... It's over
lol
The Saurus look like the type of nigga that orders Milk at the bar
Oooooh troll!... Good job... Good job.
Boom pow! Pow!... We have a funny guy here.. More! More! Hahaha you are funny ironically.. Very well constructed jokes
That's funny cause..I am a doctor lol.. But dude, you won.. I am completely demoralized... You just won the Internet... Bet you feel awesome.. I mean the Muscular Dystrophy line? I mean come on.. Genius. Good job
lmfao that wimbledon line was hot even though your legs will wimble then doesnt actually make sense haha
"wimbled-in" its a rap battle not english class bud
ya lmao im not fucking being a grammar nazi dumass...notice my "lol" and "haha"
respekdis yea, well,using wimbled in that scheme was forced cause it didn't make sense. look up the word wimble.
ight fellas relax. john killed it in my opinion classic battle though
the saurus killed him.
I want to know what that pyramid scheme is about. John's demeanor changed real quick when The Saurus started with that. Looked personal to me.
Thesaurus needs to retire. Soundin corny and outdated
No way!!!!!!!!!!
No.. just no. Cool pic too. are you hangin' upside down ?
ya homie your face needs to retire
ahahaha
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They both had fun, but neither went heavy. 2-1 John John Da Don.
Johns lyrics were good but a common flow
JJDD 2-1 THAT THIRD WAS OK. Really good battle though I put it in my top 5 of the year.
Round 1: JJDD
Round 2: JJDD but TheSaurus had some solid punch lines
Round 3: JJDD
Lmao a 3-0 ok ....
They both did good. I was entertained and had fun live.
rd 1 - jjdd (thesaurus came decent but jjdd edged it)
rd 2 - thesaurus (jjdd came wit it too but thesaurus took this rd)
rd 3 - jjdd
2-1 JJDD.. this was a good battle, goodlook KOTD!!
JJDD 2nd round is what won him this battle... That concept DNA, Charlie Clips and Pass was crazy... The Saurus was ok but in all honesty JJDD bodied him.
i respect ur point.. it could go 3-0 or 2-1 jjdd to me... i just died and threw my fuckin laptop in the air on thesaurus' bar/nameflip - about recyclin and sayin john again, lmfaoo
Instead of saying who I think won,
I'm just gonna go ahead and say THIS BATTLE IS A FUCKING CLASSIC.
Sounds like the "Fair Enough" guy is back for an encore.lol. Bullshit aside this battle was pretty close though jjdd had some impressive bars in his earlier rounds saurus had some heat aswell but it seemed like both kept their daggers at home. No one really capitalized in their rounds in my opinion
FAIR ENOUGH!
- Fair Enough Guy
Alex Marquettiukn. I was fucking shocked he was at this event too lol
Did they cut some of Saurus' third?
Dope battle
Thesaurus won this.. not slightly but 2-1 comfortably. JJDD has a bunch of old wordplay,man,them shits are 99 old.. Calendar,Ireland Dublin,etc. Geezuus! Why not throw an engagement ring/Hoarse-Horse line in there too... I wanted JJDD to win,just because he represents URL type of style.. but Damn,Thesaurus just clowned him here.. he didn't even take him serious,but landed some dope punches & rebuttals.. Jonathan Jonathan shit was funny.. JJDD had some moments.. I'll give him RD2 slightly.. he came with bars,and Saurus slightly miss stepped.. #angryfanmovement
I agree, i dont understand how all these muthafuckerz on here are saying johnathon johnathon won, and im a fan of both of em. Thesaurus came wit it!
Watched it again to be sure,the saurus won easily! too easy.
If he won that easy you wouldn't have to come back & make sure.
At first you go off reactions.duggie mooncake
Christopher Hughes You can't swear on ur kids or parent he won. I can honestly say he got 3-0'd
John John is the truth. I'm a Saurus fan, and I think he won, even though it wasn't his best overall battle. But if JJDD's last round was better he would have taken it 2-1. Nice battle.
Thesaurus got this easy, no body though. People say Thesaurus has dickriders but jesus, all I see is people going fullout crazy for JJDD in the comment section. All JJDD had was simple schemes with over-elaborate word association bars that didn't make sense half the time. People get so amped over wordplay and it's great when it works on multiple levels and it's blended well with well-crafted rhyme schemes but JJDD's shit is just a bunch of relafed phrases sloppily strung together. Thats my opinion anyway, this shit is completely subjective nowadays.
its about bars Benjamin Thesaurus is ok, but battle rap has evolved so much that simple metaphors and similes are easily caught we aren't slow we need something more complex to think about while listening like the Vet scheme the DNA scheme or the Times 2. Just because JJDD sounds the same doesn't mean he recycled listen and you can hear. Thesaurus is good but he isnt someone that can survive in the URL the league that matters. Thesaurus D-League comp. vs JJDD NBA comp.
Since when is URL the only league that matters? The same thing could be said about URL guys in KOTD.
I kinda agree that jj word association was basic but that's cause of the delivery and flow the way he put the bars together and set them up if he flowed like thesaurus did it would have been a lot more convincing but all the thesaurus really did was flow, event though he built his lines up better a lot of them were anti climactic and kinda weak.
Emeka Ilukwe No such thing KOTD bring url guys to raise their views use ya head with me here. Who would look at someone they dont recognize as a popular name or a a guy with a history of either notable wins or coming with good bars. Those other guys are no names to most of us. I never seen Thesaurus battle in my life and probably wont ever again unless he battles a "URL guy"
Khilah Davidson So, if someone is a legend everywhere except in some hood in New York, he's a no name. What amount of sense does that make?
great battle
WTF is wimbling? Is that a mix between trembling and wobbling?
Who asked about Wimbledon fool? I know he was running a tennis scheme and he used "wimbling" to slide Wimbledon in, but my question was "what is wimbling?" And that question was tongue-in-cheek. I know there's no such word as "wimbling". I was just being humorous, and going over your head apparently.
malle6013 wimbling is a word
Andrew Lovallo Not the way he used it.
its a word whether he used it correctly or not
Okay, so you took the time to look it up just so you could feel good about making a point. You win bro.
The Saurus 2-1. Round 1: John John Da Don. Round 2: The Saurus. Round 3: The Saurus.
2-1 John John. The Saurus won the 3rd.
Ms.Fit used that Calender line against Chayna Ashley 1st and did it way better. John is nice BUT he does bite a lot. Good battle. The Saurus had a weak 3rd round so I'll give it to John 2-1 (Assuming none of the other bars were stolen).
He used a few other bars.
The Saurus took this one easily. JJTD's punches and wordplay didn't even make sense half the time. Like what does it mean for one's legs to "wimbledon?" Stupid and stupid people in the audience cheer for nonsense punches that make no sense. The Saurus says smart ass shit that tends to go over most people's heads.
You're an idiot
You must be a battle rapper with that clever retort….
Fahk Ewe . Its a play on tha word wimbleton which is where tennis matches r played...he sayin i bet ur legs would "wimble then"...wimble might b a actual word but he was reachin a lil bit for trimbling or wobbling as in legs shaking
Fahk Ewe not*
***** u know what i mean
KOTD so far has the best battles these days due to all great rounds and even great third rounds. Plus the battles aren't long as fuck like SMACK battles.
Sayin JJDD and hollow need to battle for the name is STUPID!!! It's like if I decide to be a battler and name myself Jimmy Hoffa...o so now should Math battle me for HIS name??? fuck no, even if JJDD beats hollow he would be a name thief!!! (And bar thief)
Yes I been waiting on this junt!!!
JJ 3-0 honestly both of these guys are usually noon interesting to me. I was live at this event, turnt up I don't remember this battle live but jj had bars and changed his shit up. Thesaurus didn't change it up until the very end pyramid scheme weak shit... Jj 3-0
Why did JJDD feel the need to say "I got more" after only like 8 bars?
To have smack rapper's inn KOTD is not that great, I mean gun bars is the aids of battlerap....
***** are you serious? I have an adopted sister; she is black! So what's the deal? I just spoke my oppinion niggah
anyone know where the opening quote is from? i know its ct fletcher, but which video?? great battle btw, thanks @kingofthedot
The Saurus got his ass whooped