He lost me when not doing the second Yoi position. I personally dislike the form. Not traditional enough, and a bit too close to the center axis for me.
Not doing the second Yoi Position is a trait of all Okinawan Goju-Ryu from the later days of Chojun Miyagi, when he abolished that second yoi position - thus the early students of Miyagi, such as Yagi, Higa, and the JKF-Goju people still retain that position, the later day ones who came out of Jundokan (Miyazato, Iha, Anichi Miyagi etc) didn't do it because Chojun Miyagi taught them not to.
@@matthews1082 It has already been stated that it is Ei'ichi Miyazato who removed this second yoi, not Chojun Miyagi (even An'ichi Miyagi, who trained with Chojun Miyagi until he passed away told it was Miyazato's habit to not doing the second Yoi, habit that he developed after Chojun Miyagi passed away when he took over the Miyagi dojo). As Miyazato was not part of the oldest students of Chojun Miyagi, he pretended this second Yoi was useless. Seikichi Toguchi, who founded the Shoreikan school, has later written about this second Yoi, writting for the first time the Goju-ryu rules such as taught by Chojun Miyagi until the very end. Amongst these, you can learn why kata is against only one fighter, why stepping forward is for engaging only and stepping backward is for receiving only, and also why a second Yoi is required when performing katas. This kind of little details are the cause of people thinking Ei'ichi Miyazato was full of himself, trying to put his own touch on a well-known practice after having forced the oldest and most skilled students of Chojun Miyagi to nominate him as the legitimate heir of the Ryuha. I'm not criticizing Jundokan's inheritors. I've been a student of Morio Higaonna for 2 years myself. But there were changes made due to several meanings, several understandings, several levels of skill, and even if I dislike the form, it still can be considered as real Karate, which is not the case for many self-named "traditional" schools and dojos from Japanese lineages.
@@Yeino Morio Higaonna Sensei has always maintained that it was Chojun Sensei who changed it. He told us that, and he wrote it in his book. My late Sensei, who was also Anichi Miyagi's student, also told me very clearly that it was Chojun Miyagi who changed it. And there's a whole bunch of other contemporaries who trained under Chojun Miyagi - and they concurred - so it's hard to say why Anichi Sensei said what he said about it being Miyazato's modification, because he's (Anichi Miyagi) also done it without the second Yoi all his life, long after he broke with Miyazato. But in his later years he was clearly very confused due to his ill health - I'd trust what he said when he was of sound mind over what he said when he was ill. If you check out Seiko Kina (founder of Junkokan), he's more senior than Miyazato (and one of the few people Chojun Miyagi allowed to teach Gojuryu in Okinawa in his lifetime), and Seiko Kina never did the second Yoi. If you know Seiko Kina, you'd know that he was Seiko Higa and Chojun Miyagi's student, he predates Yagi and Miyazato etc, BUT he also trained with Chojun Miyagi till the very end. He had his own dojo before Meibukan or Jundokan existed. Him not doing the second Yoi says that it was Chojun Miyagi who removed it. Debate ends here conclusively.
@@matthews1082 These are only reported sayings. Koei Teruya, Kinjo Shinkichi and Taira Masagi said the contrary of Morio Higaonna. Who's right then ? Nobody ? Everybody ? Kina Seiko Kina trained under Higa Seiko after Chojun Miyagi's passing. I'm pretty sure he did the second Yoi at least until the Junkokan's foundation 😁 He joined Morio Higaonna's IOGKF in 1979 as technical advisor, so I can't really know more about it.
@@Yeino Yes, but Seiko Kina will not be following modifications made by Miyazato, especially after learning from Seiko Higa (who does the second Yoi), but Kina kept doing Kata without the second Yoi. He was a good friend and key influencer of Anichi Miyagi, and my Sensei trained under both of them for decades - always said Chojun Miyagi removed the second Yoi in the later years. You can see his Kata on UA-cam, no second Yoi. Why would he like? In fact why would they all lie to help Miyazato whom they'd broken with!?
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He lost me when not doing the second Yoi position. I personally dislike the form. Not traditional enough, and a bit too close to the center axis for me.
Not doing the second Yoi Position is a trait of all Okinawan Goju-Ryu from the later days of Chojun Miyagi, when he abolished that second yoi position - thus the early students of Miyagi, such as Yagi, Higa, and the JKF-Goju people still retain that position, the later day ones who came out of Jundokan (Miyazato, Iha, Anichi Miyagi etc) didn't do it because Chojun Miyagi taught them not to.
@@matthews1082 It has already been stated that it is Ei'ichi Miyazato who removed this second yoi, not Chojun Miyagi (even An'ichi Miyagi, who trained with Chojun Miyagi until he passed away told it was Miyazato's habit to not doing the second Yoi, habit that he developed after Chojun Miyagi passed away when he took over the Miyagi dojo). As Miyazato was not part of the oldest students of Chojun Miyagi, he pretended this second Yoi was useless. Seikichi Toguchi, who founded the Shoreikan school, has later written about this second Yoi, writting for the first time the Goju-ryu rules such as taught by Chojun Miyagi until the very end. Amongst these, you can learn why kata is against only one fighter, why stepping forward is for engaging only and stepping backward is for receiving only, and also why a second Yoi is required when performing katas.
This kind of little details are the cause of people thinking Ei'ichi Miyazato was full of himself, trying to put his own touch on a well-known practice after having forced the oldest and most skilled students of Chojun Miyagi to nominate him as the legitimate heir of the Ryuha.
I'm not criticizing Jundokan's inheritors. I've been a student of Morio Higaonna for 2 years myself. But there were changes made due to several meanings, several understandings, several levels of skill, and even if I dislike the form, it still can be considered as real Karate, which is not the case for many self-named "traditional" schools and dojos from Japanese lineages.
@@Yeino Morio Higaonna Sensei has always maintained that it was Chojun Sensei who changed it. He told us that, and he wrote it in his book. My late Sensei, who was also Anichi Miyagi's student, also told me very clearly that it was Chojun Miyagi who changed it. And there's a whole bunch of other contemporaries who trained under Chojun Miyagi - and they concurred - so it's hard to say why Anichi Sensei said what he said about it being Miyazato's modification, because he's (Anichi Miyagi) also done it without the second Yoi all his life, long after he broke with Miyazato. But in his later years he was clearly very confused due to his ill health - I'd trust what he said when he was of sound mind over what he said when he was ill. If you check out Seiko Kina (founder of Junkokan), he's more senior than Miyazato (and one of the few people Chojun Miyagi allowed to teach Gojuryu in Okinawa in his lifetime), and Seiko Kina never did the second Yoi. If you know Seiko Kina, you'd know that he was Seiko Higa and Chojun Miyagi's student, he predates Yagi and Miyazato etc, BUT he also trained with Chojun Miyagi till the very end. He had his own dojo before Meibukan or Jundokan existed. Him not doing the second Yoi says that it was Chojun Miyagi who removed it. Debate ends here conclusively.
@@matthews1082 These are only reported sayings. Koei Teruya, Kinjo Shinkichi and Taira Masagi said the contrary of Morio Higaonna. Who's right then ? Nobody ? Everybody ?
Kina Seiko Kina trained under Higa Seiko after Chojun Miyagi's passing. I'm pretty sure he did the second Yoi at least until the Junkokan's foundation 😁 He joined Morio Higaonna's IOGKF in 1979 as technical advisor, so I can't really know more about it.
@@Yeino Yes, but Seiko Kina will not be following modifications made by Miyazato, especially after learning from Seiko Higa (who does the second Yoi), but Kina kept doing Kata without the second Yoi. He was a good friend and key influencer of Anichi Miyagi, and my Sensei trained under both of them for decades - always said Chojun Miyagi removed the second Yoi in the later years. You can see his Kata on UA-cam, no second Yoi. Why would he like? In fact why would they all lie to help Miyazato whom they'd broken with!?