I'm a local truck driver, once was a 48 state driver for 2 years! All the tonnage I've driven for the past 20 years can't add up to neither one of these trains!
You all missed what he said. He never said trailers or cars, he said "tonnage" and he is probably right. The amount of weight in cargo they can pull in one load is astronomical.
@@superdave577 Noneof that matters. If you go with the gist of his comment; he is making alliteration as to how much more a consist can carry than over-the-road trucking. Most OTR rigs are limites to 80,000 pound. 40 tons. A consist can carry a few thousand tons to more than 10,000 tons, and in some cases 15,000 tons.
Absolutely fabulous. I retired from a trucking company and many many of their containers were aboard. I am amazed at the logistics it takes to route the trains. Thanks for posting this great clip.
In High School, the Broadway Limited tracks ran behind our school in Philly. I'd count the freight cars on some trains trying to break a previous record 'till I heard my name called realizing I didn' hear the question. I lost my seat in the window aisle.
In my hometown, we were stopped by trains frequently downtown. The train would almost go all the way through, then back up and p*ss everyone waiting off!
As someone who is used to seeing British Class 66s pulling a dozen or so 60ft container wagons (Not even double-stacked), this is absolutely nuts! Nice one.
No, a single 66 pulls 21 60ft HTA coal wagons which are much heavier than container wagons, typically 2,200 tonnes in total. The maximum length of a train in the UK is determined by the spacing of signals, junctions and sidings (typically up to 600m in length), not the pulling power of a single or multiple locos. The spacing of junctions can be quite short for reasons of history, geography and mixed passenger/freight use etc. On certain routes, we have had trains that are double the length and weight of what I described, but hey are usually aggregates.
@@JP-hr7ch That Z train that was like 4 minutes into this video weighs 3 times as much as even an aggregate train in the UK. These things are operating on entirely different scales. A loaded coal "wagon" in the UK weighs about as much as an EMPTY one in North America. The primary reason trains in the UK are smaller is because chain and buffer draft gear cannot handle trains of that size. I never understood why European railways never went to the Automatic coupler, the economies of scale that they allow are massive.
@@DannyTOG ohh I made a correction. Also we can't have cars exceeding 60 due to getting into congestion as India has more no.of trains. Also it's tested that 2 of them can haul 250 cars, within 50,000 tonnes. So yeah, they're probably the third most powerful after Russia ones and China ones.
The outside Train had UPS cars on it making it priority. The inside Z Train was slow rolling to let the mail Train go. Put sure he hit the next crossover and got back in line.
I miss the old days when a freight train was a mix of boxcars, tankers, hoppers, flatcars, gondolas, all with a caboose bringing up the rear. These modern consists of only coal cars or containers are pretty damn boring to these old eyes. Still love the sound and feel of a string of diesels passing by, though. That never gets old.
Mixed freights are still a thing, even boxcars are still around, but intermodal freight rules. I have noticed a drop in the number of coal trains on the local branch line. One train I saw had five locos in front, three more in the middle and two more in back. It was about three miles long on the BNSF southern transcon.
Man, you were at the right place at the right time. You even had a 3 for 1 at one point. Thanks for sharing what you captured. It looks like that some of these cars crossings may need to build a few road undercrossings to handle those loooong freight carriers. Bet those were 2 miles long. Me.....I could handle the long wait. Have to consider fire, EMT, police emergencies at some locations. I give your video a 10 on amazing capture!
It’s always exhilarating to see those intermodal trains zip down the track at 70mph. Now that the ships can unload their cargo instead of sitting in the ocean is a good sign for merchants and the public.
Fantastic video! The place has changed a lot since I went down there with my father back in 2006. The best train I caught was a Eastbound lead by and ex SP SD40m-2 with two tunnel motors (one in DRGW colors). Those consists were epic then
The crazy part is, you still need around 60 of these trains to fill the average container ship! These trains are around 250 containers while the average container ship runs around 15,000 containers. Heck, it'll take around 100 to fill the biggest ships.
sometimes the double stacks that come thru the Belen yard are on average about 175 cars and I've seen some that were heading westbound and had 287 cars with 8 locos getting them going
I was a hoghead on the SP in the 80's on the Sunset Rte and really miss it. Running a hot shot expedited train at top speed through the desert was a thrill. Going up over the 2% grade at Beaumont, Ca from W Colton down to Yuma was what railroading was all about.
@@jimg6476 Have you done both? I took my student trip from LA to SLO and would agree with you except that it is non-CTC ABS territory. But scenery wise is better.
@@jimbo33 the Coast is now CTC believe most of the way now. Been to Yuma twice during hate week. Worked the Palmdale cutoff a few trips when it was dark territory.
The Yuma Subdivision is no joke . Im trying to recreate it in Trainz Simulator 22. The stretch of straight track from Winterhaven CA to Niland CA is a straight shot through the desert. All 70mph trains.
@@jimg6476 I worked dark territory between Lufkin, Tx and Shreveport, La during an engineer shortage in 1980 as well as trains from Englewood yard in Houston thru the east Texas bayous to Orange on the edge of Louisiana as well as trains to Galveston and Victoria, Tx. Also Del Rio to Sanderson, Tx. All as an asst RFE on loan from Los Angeles Div. Miss it!
Rode the Sunset Route off and on for 45 years between LA and Yuma. Lots of high speed trains. 90% of west bound containers are empty returning to ports for return to overseas...
Excellent good video, mr Carter's Caboose. When i see this video's i realise that the U.S.A have no waterways like Europa. Containers transport goes in Europa over road and waterways. But the last years ( since 2014 ) i see that containers goed more by railway. And the trains going be longer, in 2024 is the maximum length 1000 meter. Maximum speed: 110 km/h. Greet from Zandvoort the Netherlands from a portworker in Amsterdam.
Looking at all those boxes, those were some damned long trains, I can't help but think how much fuel is saved by not having trucks haul them across the country.
All guided by the Invisible Hand of the Marketplace. No planned economy could do that, but thousands/millions of individual buyers and sellers can. Just have to get the price right.
Ah, the disconnect from a northeast guy. I live near the NEC; all we see are short passenger trains and the occasional local freights. I never understood why 'beating the train' at the crossing was a thing. But if you have to wait 20 minutes for it to pass, I understand why people try. (and die.)
Great shots! The tonnage these bad boys move is head-shaking! Since this was '22, I've got to think this was trying to keep up with all the online ordering during the orchestrated catastrophe... Those 2 WB stack trains...how did that work, I wonder? One was on the EB track, so, he got switched over to the WB track, once that first WB that was haulin' *ss) cleared out? Never seen something like that, and yes, have been to Maricopa...just to watch Amtrak.
Moving trains of this tonnage, at this speed, at the frequency they do it at, would be considered a total operational fantasy back in the steam locomotive era.
I was a conductor on the CN in Canada. There's no way that intermodal train was 20,000 tonnes (probably empties) but if it was 20,000 tons with two 4400HP units your HPT, (horsepower per ton) would only be 0.44. I can't quite remember it's been a few years since I left, I was more of a yard switchman but I don't think we went with anything less than an HPT of 0.6.
@@markrhuett tractive effort is not how heavy a train a locomotive can pull. The tonnage rating of a locomotive is completely separate from the Tractive effort rating.
Those must be around 2km long trains! And are double stacked. Cant even begin recounting the tonnage they carry, or how long i takes to offload such a large amount of cargo!!
У меня отец работал всю жизнь машинистом тепловоза. С малых лет я всегда старался быть с ним. Когда пролетает состав рядом, аж дух захватывает. Машинистом всегда хотел быть, но как то не сложилось. Желаю удачи всем бригадам в их не лёгком труде. Если бы мог, давно бы уехал в США и постарался бы воплотить мечту.
Are those all full of "Coim Clear Downer?" More reason to build the Exite-us train. Use a Dog Whistle Yeti or Determine. People thought it was getting Good Carter thru Reagan? Or? Where's the Wheat?
Good to see that one train carry so may Swift loads, and protecting others on the open highway.
On a train is the best way to transport Swift loads!! I'm sure the general public approves, and certainly other truck drivers do too!! 🤣🤣
LMAO right
LOL I had the same thoughts about notso swift
Not on Bonehead Truckers anyway
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I'm a local truck driver, once was a 48 state driver for 2 years! All the tonnage I've driven for the past 20 years can't add up to neither one of these trains!
Same here driver. Be safe out there.
That's impossible. These trains usually carry 150-200 semi truck loads of cargo, so in 20 years you have surpassed that many times
Just counted. One had ca. 300containers, the other 250. I guess you trucked more than 300 trailers.
You all missed what he said. He never said trailers or cars, he said "tonnage" and he is probably right. The amount of weight in cargo they can pull in one load is astronomical.
@@superdave577 Noneof that matters. If you go with the gist of his comment; he is making alliteration as to how much more a consist can carry than over-the-road trucking.
Most OTR rigs are limites to 80,000 pound. 40 tons. A consist can carry a few thousand tons to more than 10,000 tons, and in some cases 15,000 tons.
Absolutely fabulous. I retired from a trucking company and many many of their containers were aboard. I am amazed at the logistics it takes to route the trains. Thanks for posting this great clip.
Don't want it too bad I will not be a
I cannot get over the length of these trains.
Incredible
In High School, the Broadway Limited tracks ran behind our school in Philly. I'd count the freight cars on some trains trying to break a previous record 'till I heard my name called realizing I didn' hear the question. I lost my seat in the window aisle.
@@ronaldstokes4841that’s a freaking crime, made by the teacher
I agree, I was doin' math counting the cars... schoolwork.@@privateerbouncher9622
In my hometown, we were stopped by trains frequently downtown. The train would almost go all the way through, then back up and p*ss everyone waiting off!
Awesome that both engineers gave the cameraman a short horn blast.
Just came across this while browsing through my recommendations US freight trains never cease to amaze me thanks for this! Greetings from UK
Welcome aboard!
The couplers make a huge difference
That sound of steel wheels on steel tracks of a fast train is the best sound to listen to. I love that sound.
Me too
Pure adrenaline watching North American trains power by!
As someone who is used to seeing British Class 66s pulling a dozen or so 60ft container wagons (Not even double-stacked), this is absolutely nuts! Nice one.
our freight loops simply aren't long enough to accommodate longer trains
No, a single 66 pulls 21 60ft HTA coal wagons which are much heavier than container wagons, typically 2,200 tonnes in total. The maximum length of a train in the UK is determined by the spacing of signals, junctions and sidings (typically up to 600m in length), not the pulling power of a single or multiple locos. The spacing of junctions can be quite short for reasons of history, geography and mixed passenger/freight use etc. On certain routes, we have had trains that are double the length and weight of what I described, but hey are usually aggregates.
@@JP-hr7ch That Z train that was like 4 minutes into this video weighs 3 times as much as even an aggregate train in the UK. These things are operating on entirely different scales. A loaded coal "wagon" in the UK weighs about as much as an EMPTY one in North America. The primary reason trains in the UK are smaller is because chain and buffer draft gear cannot handle trains of that size. I never understood why European railways never went to the Automatic coupler, the economies of scale that they allow are massive.
159 CARS the 2nd train. Impressive with only 2 locos.
In India a single loco carries 50+ stacked cars without a problem. It's by Alstom, model is WAG-12 with 12000HP fully electric.
@@simplyrohith2163 one engine in the US can pull like 100 cars on flat ground with 4400hp
@@DannyTOG ohh I made a correction. Also we can't have cars exceeding 60 due to getting into congestion as India has more no.of trains. Also it's tested that 2 of them can haul 250 cars, within 50,000 tonnes. So yeah, they're probably the third most powerful after Russia ones and China ones.
What yard was that built up in. Had to be 25000 feet.
@@simplyrohith2163 like a pissing contest
The outside Train had UPS cars on it making it priority. The inside Z Train was slow rolling to let the mail Train go. Put sure he hit the next crossover and got back in line.
Amazing. A thing of beauty. I could watch these trains all day long, thundering along!
These were some great catches. I’m a truck driver also and I definitely enjoyed the entire video.
Be safe out there driver.
I miss the old days when a freight train was a mix of boxcars, tankers, hoppers, flatcars, gondolas, all with a caboose bringing up the rear. These modern consists of only coal cars or containers are pretty damn boring to these old eyes. Still love the sound and feel of a string of diesels passing by, though. That never gets old.
It's nice to see a locomotive in the middle and the end of the train today .
Mixed freights are still a thing, even boxcars are still around, but intermodal freight rules. I have noticed a drop in the number of coal trains on the local branch line. One train I saw had five locos in front, three more in the middle and two more in back. It was about three miles long on the BNSF southern transcon.
I’m a retired locomotive engineer and I thought that was an awesome video. Thanks. I’m subscribing. 👍❤️
Awesome videos! Love the UP!!!! Thanks for sharing.
Man, you were at the right place at the right time. You even had a 3 for 1 at one point.
Thanks for sharing what you captured.
It looks like that some of these cars crossings may need to build a few road undercrossings to handle those loooong freight carriers. Bet those were 2 miles long.
Me.....I could handle the long wait. Have to consider fire, EMT, police emergencies at some locations.
I give your video a 10 on amazing capture!
They finally built an overpass for AZ-347 some years back... Maricopa has been completely built up in the last 20+ years...
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I love the sound of those wheels on the track. It’s so cool.
It’s always exhilarating to see those intermodal trains zip down the track at 70mph. Now that the ships can unload their cargo instead of sitting in the ocean is a good sign for merchants and the public.
I Really Like That Sound When The Trains Pass By Fast Love It
That's a whole Lotta of train for one video. Great catch
Which country is this..??
Fantastic video! The place has changed a lot since I went down there with my father back in 2006. The best train I caught was a Eastbound lead by and ex SP SD40m-2 with two tunnel motors (one in DRGW colors). Those consists were epic then
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Brings back Memories Brakeman 11 yrs Union PACIFIC Railroad Nevada California and Utah
Trains are amazing. Loved this video!😊
The crazy part is, you still need around 60 of these trains to fill the average container ship! These trains are around 250 containers while the average container ship runs around 15,000 containers. Heck, it'll take around 100 to fill the biggest ships.
Ships' capacity is measured in TEU (Twenty-foot Equivalent Units), so it woulc be about half that- but still a staggering amount of containers!
sometimes the double stacks that come thru the Belen yard are on average about 175 cars and I've seen some that were heading westbound and had 287 cars with 8 locos getting them going
I was a hoghead on the SP in the 80's on the Sunset Rte and really miss it. Running a hot shot expedited train at top speed through the desert was a thrill. Going up over the 2% grade at Beaumont, Ca from W Colton down to Yuma was what railroading was all about.
It was more fun running a SP train on the Coastline from Los Angeles to San Luis Obispo.
@@jimg6476 Have you done both? I took my student trip from LA to SLO and would agree with you except that it is non-CTC ABS territory. But scenery wise is better.
@@jimbo33 the Coast is now CTC believe most of the way now. Been to Yuma twice during hate week. Worked the Palmdale cutoff a few trips when it was dark territory.
The Yuma Subdivision is no joke . Im trying to recreate it in Trainz Simulator 22. The stretch of straight track from Winterhaven CA to Niland CA is a straight shot through the desert. All 70mph trains.
@@jimg6476 I worked dark territory between Lufkin, Tx and Shreveport, La during an engineer shortage in 1980 as well as trains from Englewood yard in Houston thru the east Texas bayous to Orange on the edge of Louisiana as well as trains to Galveston and Victoria, Tx. Also Del Rio to Sanderson, Tx. All as an asst RFE on loan from Los Angeles Div. Miss it!
Cool action……those UP trains are really moving and are really long!
Great vid - your timing is impeccable!
Amazing. Well made and a fantastic train. Greetings Joe 😊
It’s amazing that those locomotives can pull all that weight!!
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I never knew trains could be that long…wow😅😮🎉
Best stacktrain vid I've seen. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks very much!
Thank God that trains exist!
Could you imagine how much traffic that would be on highways
great train video
Yea nice catches of these up freights
Awesome catch to catching those to stackers raceing too
Former engineer. Was a thrill to run trains.
Rode the Sunset Route off and on for 45 years between LA and Yuma. Lots of high speed trains.
90% of west bound containers are empty returning to ports for return to overseas...
That was AMAZING, 😁 more please. 👌👍
I tried getting a shot like this just outside of flagstaff az but I wasn’t positioned correctly. I still kick myself to this day! Nice video man!!
You had any luck with finding 70MPH on the Seligman sun? I’ve been a couple times and seen 55-65 but not 70.
@@jshcrtr12which country is it America??
3 trenuri deodată frumos video 🌍
These trains just seem to go on forever!!😳😄
Man, that's some sweet roadbed!
Make me wonder how hot the rails get after these pass through ?
Bet there warm
First trains I've seen in a while that use the 5-unit articulated container cars. All we see up on Tehachapi are singles and triples.
False
Great video! That's a very busy spot!
It sure is!
Excellent catches! Looks like a hot day.
Nice high speed action!
Simply amazing.
Excellent good video, mr Carter's Caboose.
When i see this video's i realise that the U.S.A have no waterways like Europa. Containers transport goes in Europa over road and waterways. But the last years ( since 2014 ) i see that containers goed more by railway.
And the trains going be longer, in 2024 is the maximum length 1000 meter. Maximum speed: 110 km/h. Greet from Zandvoort the Netherlands from a portworker in Amsterdam.
Looking at all those boxes, those were some damned long trains, I can't help but think how much fuel is saved by not having trucks haul them across the country.
Just incredible the amount of goods being shipped constantly.
All guided by the Invisible Hand of the Marketplace. No planned economy could do that, but thousands/millions of individual buyers and sellers can. Just have to get the price right.
Excellent video work
I bet that ground is shaking something fiercely. Great catch of both trains.
Sure was! Thanks!
Must have been a sensory overload standing there. The noise, the vibrations, the wind, and watching it fly past! On my bucket list.
Man that must be a huge crossing loop...!! Big trains passing each other...😮
Ah, the disconnect from a northeast guy. I live near the NEC; all we see are short passenger trains and the occasional local freights. I never understood why 'beating the train' at the crossing was a thing. But if you have to wait 20 minutes for it to pass, I understand why people try. (and die.)
Great shots! The tonnage these bad boys move is head-shaking! Since this was '22, I've got to think this was trying to keep up with all the online ordering during the orchestrated catastrophe...
Those 2 WB stack trains...how did that work, I wonder? One was on the EB track, so, he got switched over to the WB track, once that first WB that was haulin' *ss) cleared out? Never seen something like that, and yes, have been to Maricopa...just to watch Amtrak.
Yup spot on!
Orchestrated catastrophe is exactly right!!!!!!!
0:23 the horn on 7119 sounds like one of the European commumter trains or the avelia liberty
Nothing like trains racing at high speed on UP"S SUNSET ROUTE
thanks for sharing, awesome power and sounds..Love it!! (=
Great, well done Carter!
Glad you enjoyed it
Those are some long ass trains. Can't imagine living in any of the little cities along that track. Never get across them.
American freight trains (double stack-car trains) are longest and sharpest really !! 😃😉👍️✨😍💓💓
Conductor you are a good driver keepi song it from derailing. Keep up the good work
nodsnods.... Great steering skills! Must be hard to have your hands on the wheel with so much weight behind you.
That last train was bookin'!
Moving trains of this tonnage, at this speed, at the frequency they do it at, would be considered a total operational fantasy back in the steam locomotive era.
Beautiful sight to see.
Awesome shots ! 👍
When did Intermodal trains become "stack" trains?
Boy, when Americans move stuff around, there’s no stopping us. Great to see.
If the father of the locomotive, George Stevenson, could see us now.
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3:14 I really like Watching The Union Pacific Big long Freight Trains 🚂 Racing on the Cajon Pass. ❤
Cool❗I want to see them live. Greetings from a former Russian railway worker✌️
That looks awesome!
The amount of containers on all of those trains is mind boggling to say the least. That’s a heck of a lot of revenue right their.
Excellent video, subscribed!!
Does anybody know how much the railroad charge to transport empty containers back to the ports. I know it's a reposition moves.
That's absolutely brilliant!!!
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170 cars on the one with 2 locomotives. I didn't know 2 locomotives could haul that much freight. Unbelievable.
Yeah I think it's almost 20,000 ton...man.!!
Modern locomotives have nearly 200,000 lbs. of pulling force (tractive effort).
I was a conductor on the CN in Canada. There's no way that intermodal train was 20,000 tonnes (probably empties) but if it was 20,000 tons with two 4400HP units your HPT, (horsepower per ton) would only be 0.44. I can't quite remember it's been a few years since I left, I was more of a yard switchman but I don't think we went with anything less than an HPT of 0.6.
@@markrhuett tractive effort is not how heavy a train a locomotive can pull. The tonnage rating of a locomotive is completely separate from the Tractive effort rating.
I‘m sure they have a lot of Nm.
But isn’t it all about traction? And that depends a lot on the profile of the route I‘d assume.
We just had a 3mile long unit come through Huntsville today
Can you please post the Google Maps location of this observation point? Looks like you have spent the whole day there!!
Those must be around 2km long trains! And are double stacked. Cant even begin recounting the tonnage they carry, or how long i takes to offload such a large amount of cargo!!
No. Try two MILES, or longer. Try between 3 and 5 km
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У меня отец работал всю жизнь машинистом тепловоза. С малых лет я всегда старался быть с ним. Когда пролетает состав рядом, аж дух захватывает. Машинистом всегда хотел быть, но как то не сложилось. Желаю удачи всем бригадам в их не лёгком труде. Если бы мог, давно бы уехал в США и постарался бы воплотить мечту.
Wow Thats Fast For A Cargo Train Nice Race
Great video, crazy shot at 2:14
Nice Caption 😍😍
Those trains are balls out getin-r-dun
Awesome footage!
Thank you very much!
How many WB are empty vs hauling goods for export?
How busy is this route on a daily basis? Great video btw! Seems like another great place to go!
40 ish a day I would guess
@@jshcrtr12 A new place added to the bucket list!
Fantastic vídeo
Thank you!!!
Are those all full of "Coim Clear Downer?" More reason to build the Exite-us train. Use a Dog Whistle Yeti or Determine. People thought it was getting Good Carter thru Reagan? Or? Where's the Wheat?
What are these two mile long trains?
"The new normal"
Great video.! What make and model video camera do you use to make these high quality videos? Thank you.
that's impressive.
Excellent work. I have subbed. I run N scale 90s SP and UP on my Oregon based layout, and film modern trains when I can. Scott
Thanks Scott. I was up in the Columbia River Gorge recently. It is beautiful there
@@jshcrtr12 Indeed it is. I frequently run N scale UPs from the 50s oin up in front of Mt. Hood on my layout. I hope you enjoy some of them.
Wait what last one ha dlike 5 locos ? Overkill or what ?
Is this location off of Dead Cow Road? Looks familiar.
Here I am thinking the 89 cars being pulled by 4 trains on the PW railroad was a lot 🤣
Very long Diesel Freight trains and i love Diesel loco ❤️❤️❤️
Her Chugging, Honking and Smoking i really appreciate
I am from India
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AWESOME
Min. 8,50 ,beautyful sound !!!
Thanks for listening