Hey ToD, you could've easily won the game if you just finished off one opponent before attacking the next one. You aggro too many players and when they retaliate you complain they team up. Otherwise supreme skills as always fighting on so many fronts!
Great video, excited to play some of these soon. Some old school FFA guidelines and concepts for you: 1. Hoard: never go over 80 supply (50 preferably) unless you absolutely have to fight. Money is CRITICAL to save up. Pro FFA players will have up well over 20k gold saved up for the end 2. Diplomacy & manipulation - you tried some of this - but early on, you could have manipulated others and convinced them to ‘temporarily team’ with you and kill your enemies - weakening themselves in the process. 3. Basic concept in melee (1v1, 2s, etc) is: kill the other team and you win. CONVERSELY, the concept in FFA is LAST MAN STANDING - you could theoretically just kill one person and you can still win. 4. ITEMS - I was praying you’d get some critical items... boots, vitality, scrolls, tps - but you had empty slots throughout. You’re a great player - great apm and awareness. Just thought I’d offer some helpful distinctions for FFA :)
The thing about playing like this is that you have to attack the guy until they are dead, or else it will give them the opportunity to team up with other people. Should have killed the guy with the Blood Mage before attacking the Orc.
"I rushed him so I could expand" "Maybe I shouldnt play if they're just going to rush me all the time ... tryhards" Yeah... this kills the online scene for me in these games.
lol, you are talking to one of the most experienced wc3 players. ofc he is entitled to whine if newbies gang him.. blizzard just changed the rules of this old game suddenly.
If one guy becomes problem to other players, that other players would think : Nah, screw others, i have bugger problem to deal with. He was close and in middle of those players, he expanded fast and thus become a threat. What would you do : Just attack others and let him for the late game ? It is in human nature to stop fighting each other and dismiss bigger threat. Teaming is part of the game and diplomacy often win wars. What he expected, to others fight each other while rapes everyone being in middle of attacking lanes of everyone else. That cant be done. PLay risk or smt and see for yourself. Play it and once you starting raping everyone, see others reaction. Point is to expand and stay low, playing smart is the key.
Holly crap! You have been whining about people teaming up against you since 1st minute! No one teamed up against you! This is ffa, this is what happens on ffa!
As it would happen in any FFA game whenever you play it. That is how life goes in real world! If you play FFA dont expect things to be fair! One game you are on the oppressor side and the other you are oppressed! It is simple!
As much as I respect Tod for his skill and gameplay he is a huge sassy bitch, even in 1v1 on his stream all he does is cry and complain, worst streamer ever
Inner fire does wonders in battles. Use it versus any race but Ud. Its one of the best abilities in the game. You should have put orbs on paly and panda too and stacked up more heal scrolls.
That Phoenix tho At some point you lost and annoying others without the Chance of defeating them after that point is just stupid. The thing about ffa is that people always team up to fight stronger Players so that's nothing new.
This is the most brutal style of RTS, there should be no grimacing or rule hollering from any of the players. They should be 100% in the fight as it stands.
Just conquering completely the north-eastern part of the the map, and then defeating the rest one by one, may had ensured the win. But so inconsistent overall strategy, instead.
You got a lot of people out of the game and I respect that. I would say the salt is justified, you really did get teamed up on in the very beginning and at the end!
Also needs to be said that even though Panda is great, you sacrifice so much needed hero kill power by going Panda over MK. You need that Storm Bolt late game to kill level 10 heroes and interrupt ultimates reliantly. Building a bit of siege for razing bases is also ideal---you spent wayyyy too long going through enemy bases.
People, stop complaining about ToD claiming he got teamed. When players are so close to each other it's inevitable to be attacked by multiple armies. He obviously doesn't have that much experience with FFA games, so why make a fuss about it?
LOL IT'S NOT 2V1 LOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOL. It's a FFA game. You were the easiest target since you were on the outermost part of his base. Also it's good to 2v1 if it brings you an advantage in FFA.
I know everyone already complained about how you are whining about people teaming on you but they're not teaming up you just happened to be the better target since you are already getting attacked.
man i thought it would be nice to watch but then you just complain about not winning... its ffa people dont know or see what others are doing , dont play if you are going to act like that
dont working. when i join test server-custom game i have still only max 12 players map for create. i cant join to any game cuz game menu is cleare. i wanna create 24 lobby with some peoples or computers players for test or join something. sorry for my bad english
Hey ToD, you could've easily won the game if you just finished off one opponent before attacking the next one. You aggro too many players and when they retaliate you complain they team up. Otherwise supreme skills as always fighting on so many fronts!
Great video, excited to play some of these soon.
Some old school FFA guidelines and concepts for you:
1. Hoard: never go over 80 supply (50 preferably) unless you absolutely have to fight. Money is CRITICAL to save up. Pro FFA players will have up well over 20k gold saved up for the end
2. Diplomacy & manipulation - you tried some of this - but early on, you could have manipulated others and convinced them to ‘temporarily team’ with you and kill your enemies - weakening themselves in the process.
3. Basic concept in melee (1v1, 2s, etc) is: kill the other team and you win. CONVERSELY, the concept in FFA is LAST MAN STANDING - you could theoretically just kill one person and you can still win.
4. ITEMS - I was praying you’d get some critical items... boots, vitality, scrolls, tps - but you had empty slots throughout.
You’re a great player - great apm and awareness. Just thought I’d offer some helpful distinctions for FFA :)
so this video means - good fighting skill don't win wars, fighting skills + diplomacy do
The thing about playing like this is that you have to attack the guy until they are dead, or else it will give them the opportunity to team up with other people. Should have killed the guy with the Blood Mage before attacking the Orc.
MeleeMaster MAA o
You make too many new enemies without finishing the old ones. xD
I loved how Panda jumped from level 5 to 8 in a single fight
"I rushed him so I could expand"
"Maybe I shouldnt play if they're just going to rush me all the time ... tryhards"
Yeah... this kills the online scene for me in these games.
It's FFA, gangbang is the name of the game, no need to whine about it. ;) Thanks for the video, it was entertaining.
lol, you are talking to one of the most experienced wc3 players. ofc he is entitled to whine if newbies gang him.. blizzard just changed the rules of this old game suddenly.
I know full and well who TOD is. Also, 24 player FFA and 12 FFA are not that different, you're gonna get fucked from all sides regardless.
Wice Orc entitled by who ?
khatack nah, he is right 1.29 sucks. 24 player ffa sucks, blizzard sucks, and teaming in ffa sucks
If one guy becomes problem to other players, that other players would think : Nah, screw others, i have bugger problem to deal with. He was close and in middle of those players, he expanded fast and thus become a threat. What would you do : Just attack others and let him for the late game ? It is in human nature to stop fighting each other and dismiss bigger threat. Teaming is part of the game and diplomacy often win wars. What he expected, to others fight each other while rapes everyone being in middle of attacking lanes of everyone else. That cant be done. PLay risk or smt and see for yourself. Play it and once you starting raping everyone, see others reaction. Point is to expand and stay low, playing smart is the key.
So the new colors are beige, cyan, forest green, lavender, dark gray, dark teal, maroon, and tan?
theyre subject to change so dont get hung on it
RIP us colorblind folks
Lol.
Team color ?
omg i have so much to memorise
Big shoutout to everyone that viewed the video, LOVERS OR HATERS, we are almost at 100k!!
Holly crap! You have been whining about people teaming up against you since 1st minute! No one teamed up against you! This is ffa, this is what happens on ffa!
He had a huge army and never finished off the UD AND HU on his right flank, they constantly stopped his aggression elsewhere.
As it would happen in any FFA game whenever you play it. That is how life goes in real world! If you play FFA dont expect things to be fair! One game you are on the oppressor side and the other you are oppressed! It is simple!
As much as I respect Tod for his skill and gameplay he is a huge sassy bitch, even in 1v1 on his stream all he does is cry and complain, worst streamer ever
the orc could killed him mid game but had to tp out
Dont worry. Its not that useless, you can make look yourself dangerous for some one to even aprouch you. Well if they literally not against you.
Cool to see so many Warcraft players still play. Cant wait for a Warcraft 4. There will be so many people playing if they make war4.
Fun game ToD, thanks for sharing! You really did the best you (or anyone) could against all those attacks. Very impressive.
This used to be my most favorite game ever. Wow time flies by fast. Now when I look at the game, it feels like so unfamiliar.
Hahahahaha tod being salty at the end... just say gg 😂 you made too many enemies 😂
Great to see you raking in the views Tod
Inner fire does wonders in battles. Use it versus any race but Ud. Its one of the best abilities in the game. You should have put orbs on paly and panda too and stacked up more heal scrolls.
that looks like a lot of fun!
mad skills, so much whining though
It wouldn't be a ToD video without the raging/whining :)
That Phoenix tho
At some point you lost and annoying others without the Chance of defeating them after that point is just stupid.
The thing about ffa is that people always team up to fight stronger Players so that's nothing new.
nice game, do more.
Good play:)
He aggroed the HU and OC players, but the UD just came for him before ToD could even find his base.
Merci pour ca FFA ToD tu régales ^^!
mm si la fin est pas ouf je te l'accorde ^^
This is the most brutal style of RTS, there should be no grimacing or rule hollering from any of the players. They should be 100% in the fight as it stands.
Just conquering completely the north-eastern part of the the map, and then defeating the rest one by one, may had ensured the win. But so inconsistent overall strategy, instead.
Петър Петров agreed it was like ww2 in the Germán y side to many fronts open an no ensured victory
This is first game with patch 1.29
fighting constantly 3 people, for 15 mins straight. Now that requires some skill
Wow, cried at the end.
I see a 12-player map. Where is the number 24 coming from?
The normal expansions are starting spots I think.
Then lets play! Might take 24 hours to fill though lol.
dude plays like he drank red bull + coffee
omg that footman 15 minutes with defend on
No orb of fire, boots, etc on pala and panda throughout the entire game? Realy?
you are awesome at this game and nailed it but complaint a lot
It’s ok. You’re expanding around.
Download link for map????
next time you will need an ally to join the game with you :D
You got a lot of people out of the game and I respect that. I would say the salt is justified, you really did get teamed up on in the very beginning and at the end!
good rush
Also needs to be said that even though Panda is great, you sacrifice so much needed hero kill power by going Panda over MK. You need that Storm Bolt late game to kill level 10 heroes and interrupt ultimates reliantly. Building a bit of siege for razing bases is also ideal---you spent wayyyy too long going through enemy bases.
This game was missing Grubby
Don't kill the Phoenix egg at 50:45! Don't polymorph! Don't buy items. Rise above all that, bro
Нормально поиграли, челики
lmao the ptr looks better than the official patch
For The Scourge! :D
wah wah wah
the salt is real
You should do more of these =)
People, stop complaining about ToD claiming he got teamed. When players are so close to each other it's inevitable to be attacked by multiple armies. He obviously doesn't have that much experience with FFA games, so why make a fuss about it?
VitalyZ looks like Yoan xD
So most people play with the Alliance/Humans?
how much does the new version cost?
native 16:9 though
man this is weird.
how can you play online in warcraft 3? i can never find out a actual answer and want to know how to play the ladder and other custom games
How were you able to get a big match like this, every time I do battle net I can't find anyone
OH MAN, everybody here on youtube has this patch, only me not, that's so unfair!
i hope they get rid of battle.net lag in this patch
Awesome!!)))
TOD salty as always but got a point regarding the phoenix guy.
What version of tft can operate 24 player maps?
Hey Tod, was wondering how you are able to show mana bars on wc3 ?
its a new update that did not get a rollout now (also like the 24 players 1 map thing)
warcraft had pandaren ?
So in the end the un+hu+orc won
Do you guys know how can i join this community to play with them? What client do i need? Also do i need w3 licensed?
holy crap, i just realize i suck at these games.
LOL IT'S NOT 2V1 LOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOL. It's a FFA game. You were the easiest target since you were on the outermost part of his base. Also it's good to 2v1 if it brings you an advantage in FFA.
I think its fair to complain about the blood mage player, but the UD and orc was just playing
this game would of been awesome if blizz didnt fuck base defense.
and in SC2 its even worse
Reminds of IGIdra attitude lol
where is the next pard ?
lol fk i nearly thought i had unmuted my wc3 sounds xd. forgot im watching a vid.. who uses sounds nowdays lmao rather music
Decent game play, and fair amount of complaining ;)
where's the end?
Everything look really small. This TDB_Gosu is pathetic btw
haha he was so funny
They could have at least some dignity to not to lie when ganging up, jesus fuck...
is this the new version released by Blizzard?
Gary yes it is
why no mountainking
Ends like all FFAs before
3х1 gg
1.29?
how do u play online
I know everyone already complained about how you are whining about people teaming on you but they're not teaming up you just happened to be the better target since you are already getting attacked.
How to play *Multiplayer*!?
Ffa, where nelf only win if with dark ranger charming workers to build tech of stronger races
24 different colours == colour blind people are hosed.
same is true of 3 colors for some color blind people, so?
Why so many dislikes??
man i thought it would be nice to watch but then you just complain about not winning... its ffa
people dont know or see what others are doing , dont play if you are going to act like that
everyone trying to steal kills from each other so funny lmao
COMO FAÇO PARA JOGAR EM 24 PESSOAS??
How i can create 24 players lobby? i got instaling 1.29 patch, i got full HD but i got only 12 man maps.
Roman Hašek dowland first then
good idea but do you have some link? i cant find any downlink. Thx bro
Где можно скачать эту карту?
where do you get 24 player maps?
patch 1.29 brings this and some balance changes to heroes and wide screen support it's basically christmass
i can't find this map in my map pack in w3 1.29 patch. How i can create 24 man lobby? where?
i got it by going on the test server and jus joining a custom game
dont working. when i join test server-custom game i have still only max 12 players map for create. i cant join to any game cuz game menu is cleare. i wanna create 24 lobby with some peoples or computers players for test or join something. sorry for my bad english
This is going to lag a lot
can i have some of this ?
Tod crying hha
Familia
Taunt 10 guys wondering why he gets attack by them
lol how he keeps whining hahaha why u didnt build tanks maaaan
Dis guy has BM accusing others of teaming on him.
lmao its warcraft ofc they can teamup each other and why u dont team with other ppl?
no stun so no tele or big bad vodoo interuption