Adding t-track clamps to our CNC | X-Carve upgrade | How to
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
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This project has already made clamping stuff on our CNC SO MUCH EASIER! It helps us set up jigs which is great when we are making multiples of the same cut, but it also allows us to use less stock because it can clamp from the sides instead of the top. We used Rockler T-tracks and clamps and so far they've worked really well. The piece has been really secure for all cuts. We also love that it was such an easy upgrade to make. It was way less complicated than our earlier ideas of running t-slot in a grid pattern, and it's flexible enough to work for big and small pieces.
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What size is your X-carve?
Totally doing this! I've got plenty of extra t-track from my assembly table build, this will be awesome for work holding!
T-tracks on ALL THE THINGS!!! Yeah no more fumbling through all the different sized screws lol
Used the X-Carve to upgrade the X-Carve, then used the newly made bracket to also make larger brackets. This video so meta @.@
Hahaha, if only we had used a t-track clamping system to cut the t-tracks we used. We could have taken it to the next level!!!
1:35 I REALLY DO appreciate the shout-outs guys! Thanks so much! :)
Thats actually really cool how you implemented the advertising in the video rather than cutting out and focusing on the ad. It makes me feel like listening to the ad isnt wasting my time. Seemless integration love it
Thank you! We try really hard to make sure the sponsor bits aren't too jarring. Appreciate the feedback!
So glad I remembered this. I just got myself a mini CNC, and I was trying to think of ways to set up my spoil board, and I remembered this video! Thank you guys for your consistent levels of awesome!
Evan and Katelyn: my top inspiration!
Every video I watch I always end up saying these guys are sooooo cool!
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Aw thank you! You're too kind!
Added the T track what a great improvement. Thanks for the Video and Idea. I found it easier to just use a 3/4 Bit with The Router and was done in less than 5 minutes. Keep the Good stuff Coming!
Guess what? TOTALLY DOING THIS! Thanks!
YAYY go for it, such a big improvement. No nee to re-zero for batching things out is the best thing
It would be cool if someone did this in walnut...
I totally cracked up with the vacuum noises! And that was a very nice trick to use wood spacers to keep the clamps away from the head. Jigs are awesome! Great video as always!
Hahaha it still gets us every time too 😋 Jigs forever!!! ✊😄
I love the bantering back and forth. It makes your channel really unique and cracks me up. Also, brilliant idea! I want to do this for my x-carve now.
Aw thank you! Glad you like the channel and this project (it has been so helpful having the t-tracks set up so far!)
I love your clamping system, was about to buy more standard ones from inventables but I will make this instead. great work. Cheers from Canada.
This is the best idea ever ! I was going to put T tracks on my cnc but putting a rail every 50mm vertically but your way is so much cheaper and will work a lot better with less change of accidentally running my bit threw a t track if i cut into the waste board !! Thanks guys :D
That was our initial plan too but changed it for the exact reasons you mentioned :D have fun, its so worth the little time requited!
AHH this was an awesome video! we recently took the plunge into out own xcarve and we love it already but my husband is going to love this idea! he is the king of making jigs for every scenrio!
We love jigs for everything too so we understand!!!
Nice job you two. Enjoyed the video and the commercial was practically non existent. Your humor adds to the enjoyment. Subbed to your channel as well.
Thank you! Appreciate the sub!
That’s an awesome upgrade! At first I was like wait it’s going to cut off space that could be used, but having them flush still should allow you to use the space outside the clamps! Not that I’d even do a piece that big haha
thanks! Yep since they're recessed it shouldn't take away usable space, and since they're on the far edges we shouldn't have to worry about cutting through and hitting them since usually the actual cuts will be made away from them
I so need this stuff!! Thanks guys for bright smiling faces and fun to start my day
We would definitely recommend this upgrade! And thank you too for putting a smile on our faces with your comment 😁😁
Most useful woodworking video in a long time... Great work!
Sweet, thanks so much!
You could change the wood supports to be more similar to french cleats so when the t-track clamps push into them they transfer the lateral force into downward force holding even more securely
that's a great upgrade idea!
@@EvanAndKatelyn try out and let me know how it works out :)
Adding t track is a great upgrade. I didn’t think about a video, but mine was achieved by adding a waist board above. That would have blocked all of your threaded inserts though.
That's a great idea if you don't have threaded inserts though!
Just ordered an X-Carve about a week ago. I'm so excited for it to get here!!
Ahhh that's super exciting! It opens up so many possibilities!
I just upgraded my x carve tonight, with this method. Thanks for the video! cant wait to put it to use
There ain't no party like a t-track party...T-CLUB!
That was... beautiful! When can we expect the single to drop?
Nice example, of how to set it up!
Thank you!
Great solution! I might need to do something like this with my shapeoko. Also, I just cut aluminum t track yesterday on the miter saw, and it WAS fun to watch. Ha.
Would work great on the shapeoko too! Though you might need to cut hoes for threaded inserts to do the L bracket in the same way. And omg yet aluminum is so fun to cut haha!
EvanAndKatelyn I don’t know if I have any spare hoes to cut 😜
Ha! 😂
Using the clamps to make...the clamps! Awesome vid guys!
Haha thank you!
Thanks guys. I am getting ready to set up my X-Carve this weekend and I am definitely going to use your T-track design when I do. Keep up the great work.
Woot! Have fun, its so exciting to make your first cut. What project are you going to do first?
EvanAndKatelyn I make some very niche stuff for my Etsy shop , mostly bases and cases for antique sewing machines. I’m going to be engraving the old Singer logo into my products and hopefully watching my sales explode. :-). At least that’s the plan.
we wish you tens of dollars of profit! :P
I followed your lead and info on creating the same clamping system. Thanks for the info and it works great.
That's great to hear!
This is so cool. I plan on getting the 500mm x carve.
Thank you! And that's awesome!
The vac sound effect was so spot on. Made me crack up! Love this!
Hahaha!! I wish that's how our shop vac sounded. 'Twould be hilarious
I don't even know how I got here but I try to
give you simple no technical advice
because I like your video, the enthusiasm and good mood you are showing ... In this case unfortunately you can't design anything better because it is already designed the best it can be. You can save time by thinking about it. If you want use T profile with clamps put them to parallel
layout/position. 3-4-5 t-rack parallel by moving the y-axis
longer than the maximum Y range, how many depends on what "resolution" you need for small objects. This t-rack stick together with rectangular wood/mdf/plywood whatever you have at home. They must be a little higher 3-5mm and thats it.
You can get inspiration from many more expensive
,precisely designed machines. L is bullshit and there are more reasons why this is not good, you will figure out later. Or...maybe it will no longer be necessary in future, because vacuum tables will also be on hobby cnc :D
Great job! I made something similar a while back and discovered that on repetitive uses, sawdust was getting trapped between the spoilboard and the bracket. Creating a little relief chamfer on the bottom edge of the L bracket gives (a little) sawdust somewhere to go so that my workpiece sits flush to the bracket and spoilboard. Just a suggestion in case you run into the same problem and again, great job as always!
Thank you so much for the tip! Will definitely keep that in mind if we start running into the same issue
suggestion on claming - you could also use the one of the Rockler clamps at a 45 degree angle, pushing the corner opposite of the "L" into the "L". you might need to add the "corner" piece to the T-Track filling in the missing corner that was routed out.
Yeah that could work too! As long as the corner is protected somehow - might need another L bracket for the corner clamp to push against with a void removed from the cornee
Great video and clamping idea. I hope to get a CNC machine soon and will have to plan for this setup. Great detail in this video - y'all made it fun.
Thank you! It's been such a useful upgrade so we definitely recommend it. Glad you liked the video!
Hey Evan and Katelyn grate upgrade for your CNC !
Thank you!
Suggestion: X-Carve sells a probe for setting the bit height. I use it all of the time--it's a huge time saver once you get the hang of it.
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Thanks for being super inspiring to me. I've been saving up the past few months for a prusa i3 mk3, and hopefully move more into the maker space. I love all your vids!!
Thank you, that makes us so happy to hear! We always see your profile pic and at first think oh no someone is mad at us and then realize nope it's Buckybomb and it's just their profile pic 😋 Good luck saving up for the Prusa - it's a cool machine!
Thanks guys! Now that you mention it, I should change my profile picture, haha
I am researching the X Carve. Still deciding if I really need one. I want one, but not sure I need one. You did a great job of explaining the setup for your clamps and it was great how you used the machine to modify itself. I think the giggling was a bit overboard. Also the camera work was a bit shakey at times, more use of a tripod is in order. But overall this was a very informative video. Thanks
We really enjoy having one but we also justified our need for it based on some products we wanted to make and sell. Good luck!
Living the CNC videos guys, keep it up!
Thank you! We will!
I haven't even watched it yet. And it already deserves a like
Aww hehe, thanks for the vote of confidence :D
Great video always fun and entertaining
Thank you so much!
Hi guys your my biggest inspiration you've inspired me to open my own etsy store and share my creations also you guys are just plain awesome
Aww that makes us so happy to hear, thank you!
On my X-carve when I do through cuts I put a piece of 1/8" hardboard or plywood under the piece to save the "waste Board" I realize it is a waste board, but sucks to replace it, and keeps my x-carve in show condition!! Excellent clamp idea!
Haha we understand, would prefer not to mess up our wasteboard too much!
Can yall do more CNC projects? And Welding?
Thanks
The t-track looks good. I think I would modify the “L”. I would counterbore the holes so the cap screw heads are flush or below. That way you can lessen the stick out on your cutter. That helps with rigidity. The more rigid your setup is the less chatter your cut will have. I hope that makes sense.
we thought about doing nylon screws so if they get cut, it won't damage the cutter. recessing would be a good idea too! Luckily it feels plenty rigid, no chatter at all
I really love watching you guys. I'm really interested in buying a xcarve but worry I might install it wrong. So I hesitate.
The directions are very clear and they tell you exactly what you need to do, get the X-Carve and you will be glad that you did.
Really cool E&K! Much better clamping opinions! 👍👍👊👊 .... Clamp to make a clamp to make a clamp to make a clamp....... Clampception! 😁
We heard you like clamps so we put a clamp on your clamp so you can clamp while you clamp! Thanks! 😋
Double stick paper tape works really great too. No clamps needed and you can clean cut with no tabs. :)
We haven't tried paper tape, just other types of double stick. We'll have to give it a shot some time!
Great improvement for the CNC, wish I'd made that mod for my machine 😞. Might want to recess the T track a tiny bit more so that there's no chance of hitting it when you cut through a piece.
That's a great idea to recess them more. I think since ours are on the edges hopefully it won't be a risk unless we're cutting something big
Great video. Your crushing it on the video footage, They are great.
Thank you!!
niece project, love those clamps
Your niece has an x-carve 😄😅 lol, but thanks! And yeah love the automatic type clamps, so quick!
Great idea! I'm going to have to do something like this, as soon as I get my x-carve setup! 🤓👍
Thank you! Would highly recommend!
good, creative upgrade! also, a z probe will change your life
Thanks so much! We actually have a z probe but haven't incorporated it into our workflow yet. Gotta get on it!
I love that you included more audio of you goofing around during the "beauty shots" that are normally silent. Had me cracking up the whole time. Lol bread 🍞?
We've definitely been experimenting with keeping more of the behind the scenes banter in the videos. Lol "bread" is something we say to each other as a replacement for the word "ready". This is a totally normal thing to do :P
EvanAndKatelyn haha! totally normal!
Great video and info!
Thank you!
Hey Kate and Evan, just as a comment, you should add a relay to the spindle to turn on off, is an easy piece to do. I could guide you thru the process. I had one on mine I also use the same relay to turn on off my vacuum.
Regards
Thanks for the tip!
Love this idea, though I have a Pirahna CNC which has a smaller bed, but is all metal t-track. Need to modify your idea somewhat, but think I can make something work. Love the repeatability factor on this, since I have a project that would require 12 similar carvings. Not having to zero out in between each carve would be a big time saver especially if it becomes something I can sell to make tens of dollars on.
WOOO, good luck and thanks! Whatever will you do with all the tens of dollars you'll have when your product is a huge success?
Buy more tools. Or fancier woods. Or send my kids to college. And while I still may use a version of what you showed, if these www.rockler.com/rockler-stop-kit-for-rockler-t-track-system will work with my tracks, they may work for the project I've got in mind (combined with the track holders you showed, though not for some other future projects. Going to look around at other possible clamping options before making a semi-final choice.
We thought about those stops you linked too because they are lower profile, but we ended up with the ones we did because they seemed to have a bit more holding force. Good luck!
Since I don't have the inserts to screw into, I may use those for the stationary sides, and the style you used from the back where I have a lot of bed space to hold the wood in place. With only a 12" wide bed I don't have enough width to use the style you chose for side to side clamping.
I've only done 2 projects so far, so it is a learning experience. Getting some wood to use as a waste board for projects where I want to go all the way through the board but don't want to ruin bits by hitting the t-tracks, which will require a whole different method of holding things down.
I know some folks have used their CNC's to cut the holes and then added threaded inserts - could be an option!
Excellent video e&k, eventually when I get my xcarve this will be a needed upgrade!
Thank you! Definitely finding it to be a useful upgrade already :)
Thank goodness, I was looking for this yesterday 😏🔍🖱💻
Wooo! Yeah we accidentally hit publish yesterday but had to quickly delete because there was a last minute sponsor edit to make
Just purchased an xcarve. :) You guys are fun to watch and I have found a couple useful things from you. Unfortunately, those things will cost me money. Been wanting a CNC forever but couldn't justify the bill. With these inventables, I can at least make payments, thru their creditor. Now I need to figure out where to put it, I do plane to do what you guys did with the 3d printer cart. Been thinking about that for a while now.
Woooo that's super exciting! Yeah the payment plans make it a lot more accessible which is awesome. Having a cart is super helpful, especially on wheels. Good luck!
Love it you guys, made me laugh too, all I could think about in the end was Clamps from futurama lol, "Clamps, Clamppsss, Clamppppppsssssss!"
Hahaha! If we make Futurama pop into someone's brain, I feel like our video was a success. Thanks!
should get a cheap "multitool" the oscillating tool everyone calls a multitool. With it you can flush cut the tabs super cleanly, could sand with it, scrape with it. You can get a cheap one from harbor freight and i feel like it would be alot better than cutting tabs with a jigsaw.
cody heiser i was thinking the same thing
Neat! We actually just got one so will have to try it out, thanks for the tip :D
You guys are awesome :)
You're very nice to say that!
If you want to clamp larger stuff it doesn't need to be an L. As long as you have something to clamp against you should be fine so 2 straight pieces would also work. Think of them as bench dogs.
That's true! We just liked the idea of having that L as an additional right angle reference too
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Wooooo! 😁😸😁
Oh that’s so cool. I just got my X carve up and running and I know the first thing I’m doing. Install a t track
it's been super helpful! good luck :)
I like your style.
Thanks!
So I just watched this video..so cool, gonna do it. But at the end you were cutting out the bowls. That gradual depth is something I have been trying to figure out for another project I am working on. Can you share how you did that in easel?
Thank you! We actually designed it in Fusion and have a video about programming the CAM for fancy cuts like that here: ua-cam.com/video/iqnvzxuXFTQ/v-deo.html
❤️ you guys so much!! Love the voices you do for the parts you make, just makes me lol so much! Also, this makes me want a CNC so much!!!
Question, when you were squaring up gantry, looks like you used some 3d printed blocks - did oyuake those or are they a part of the x-carve for that process?
Aww thank you! To answer your question, we used these littleetal stairatep blocks that come with the CNC to be used with the clamps - but really you can use any two things that are rigid and the same size
Make small tabs that are 2 screw holes long that way the possibilities are even, more endless:)
Good idea!
think im gonna make some of them
They're super handy! 👍
This is a great idea. Very useful. We have a ShopBot with a 4'x8' bed (😍😍😍) Our table doesn't have the threaded inserts. But... I'm going to make a jig to go on top of our table to do small parts like this. Is that bad? Lol. This is an excellent solution for a current problem I was trying to solve. Thanks for sharing this.
Oh man, would be so cool to have a 4x8! But totally makes sense to have a little jigged up area for small parts. Good luck!
Again amazing video guys, as I always say the energy of your videos always makes me smile & feel motivated! + the aluminium cutting definitely was #shopnotyzing ;)
One thing to note, at 7:50 you said 'plywood has no grain.' I'm sure you know this, but it does have a grain, its just made up of layers (veneers) of wood that each have their grain running at 90 degrees to each other. This formation is what makes it so strong because whatever way you're bending the piece, you will always be bending against the grain, where it is strongest. (Whereas things like MDF or Chipboard don't have a grain and consequently they're much weaker and more susceptible to bowing etc)
Yeah #shopnotyzing! Thank you, glad you like the video! And yeah, we just meant it doesn't have a singular grain direction, but you're right that's not the clearest way to put it
Totally doing this...... when I finally get an x carve
Would highly recommend!
you can tell the beginning part was like 6 in the morning all the birds chirping
ok timestamped comment time: @1:06 this was an AWESOME use of the sponsorship. You show off the product but also keep it a part of the project and, if you hadn't told us about the sponsorship, I wouldn't have known. Also seeing your design process was cool. You should do that more @1:42 You never say if you have room for the feet *sarcasm @3:56 Awww dusk E&K (I know you did it at the beginning too but I missed that) @4:23 sooo smoooth @5:00 I think I need a metal cutting diablo blade now @6:04 Do you have to calibrate the machine every time you cut? @7:32 You said Beef, Drink! (E &K Beef, beefier, beefy... it's a drinking game now) @8:35 one is the Evan sized and one is the Katelyn sized! @10:48 Ahhh ok you answered my calibration question I think... @11:37 sorry I've been MIA lately... busy with work stuff :-( @11:49 See ya in the after show!
Woohoo! Glad we were able to integrate the sponsor well. Would be fun to include our design process more... lots of sketching is always involved. Hahaha a beefy drinking game would be hilarious. Yeah we don't need to calibrate it every time, though some people probably do do it. The safe thing is to do it every time but we usually only do it if it looks off or if we've moved the Y manually
You guys should make a guitar with your x-carve!
That'd be so cool!
Great idea! 👍
Thanks wayofwood!
Cute toy.
it looks like you relieved the inside corner of the L-stop, because the corner was cut with a round cutter. Yes?
yep, inner corners can only be as sharp as the diameter of the cutter
Outstanding idea! I think you may have just found a new market. You should license the idea to Inventables and they can put it in as a "factory" option and then E&K get a cut. :)
Haha that would be pretty sweet! C'mon Inventables, let's make it happeb
Naturally, I'm watching this at 2x speed, and the text on the screen shows up and goes away so quickly that I read "Prep" as "Derp", and for the rest of the video I'm waiting for some call back to where Evan made a mistake measuring... The derp never came...
*Has grain in both directions alternating by vernier
We just meant it didn't have a single direction grain you'd have to worry about breaking
What is the largest width you can place into the clamp on the left? I make flags that are 21.25 and 30 inches wide and wonder about the t track clamps getting in the way of the flags fitting?
Great Idea's guys. I love T Track. should speed up your work flow.
Thank you! Definitely gonna speed it up :)
Ugh.... now I gotta buy t track... and clamps... You people and your good idea's... :)
hahaha! sorry to be a bad influence :P
Why not create a bolt down secondary baseboard with the channels in and bolt into the threaded inserts of the standard baseboard?
Then you aren't damaging your original baseboard.
That's definitely an option! But it was more work, and wasteboards are meant to be cut into, so we just cut into it
Very informative video😊love you guys
Thank you!
maybe you should make another L bracket for the clamps just the right size fir those bowls. then you wouldn't need to keep those tiny scrap pieces for spacing.
We could and that would be a great idea if we start making even more of them! But we do so many different things on here sometimes it's easier to grab scrap wood than make new brackets each time
My school is currently rebuilding the tech room (woodworking metalworking 3D printing etc, there was a fire) so if we get a new CNC (tbh the old one was crap anyways) I'll show this to the teacher, usually he just screws the wood down ;-;
You guys should reach out to Inventables! I know sometimes they can provide free machines to schools. And yesss t-tracks will make your wasteboard last a lot longer then screwing things down 👍👍
EvanAndKatelyn oh sweet! I'll have to tell him about both these things, thanks ^-^
You're welcome!
you guys are awesome!
Thank you!
Are y’all gonna do more CNC videos?
Yep! Have one coming up next month
EvanAndKatelyn thanks so much 😁
I’ve been wanting a X carve for a long time now but I’m really nervous about assembling the kit I don’t wanna spend $1800 on something I might not be able to assemble. I’m thinking about asking for one for my 15th birthday, so I’m just wondering how hard are they to assemble I’ve used CNCs before but never built one. I learn most stuff from videos so I was also wondering if the instructions for assembly was in a video. Thanks for your time
For us it took several hours to build it. There are a lot of videos out there that can help. It wasn't easy, but I think you could build it over a weekend (with taking breaks). Hope that helps!
EvanAndKatelyn okay thanks
You guys are so cute together!
Not to mention talented!
D'aww shucks, thank you!
Well, that's cool! I've not seen anything like that on an X-Carve until now, and I've seen a lot of stuff about the X-Carve. Good job! Was that pecan that you cut the dishes out of? It looks great!
Thanks Bruce! Yeah we hope this is an X-Carve project that we can enjoy while using the X-Carve for a long time :) And yep it was leftover pecan from our carved bench!
Oooo...good eye, Bruce. Oh...I have to go...talking to myself again! Bye!
I ready "good eye Bruce" as "g'day Bruce" which is a very entertaining game to play when having a drink with a few friends. Don't know if "g'day Bruce" is a real game that other people know or just a game Evan's cousin taught us and nobody else has heard of haha
I've never heard of it, but that doesn't mean it's not a real game. Sounds interesting to me! ha ha
Bruce A. Ulrich haha we'll teach ya how to play next time we are all at the post-event bar 👍
I want to make those dishes - where do I find the file please?
Nice video.where did u buy the attachment of dust collector near spindel?thank u
Nice.
Thank you!
you guys are so cool
We try. Very hard. 🙃🙃