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Wanderer has a lot of problems that most people won't realize until you play him for a while. So is it worth wishing for him?
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No single genshin creator has complained about auto targeting not even Zajeff who hates him,
Rather he has been praised as having the best auto target in the game. His windblades can literally turn 180 degrees to chase a moving enemy or one who d the initial hit
XD, I love your comment so much that I am sharing it ;)
and if u have a yelan or xingqiu burst active their dmg will follow, this video is ass lmfao
@@mosye ik... whatever he said was literally the opposite... many people are complaining for wrong info... this will give ppl the wrong idea abt Wanderer...
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@@mosye good read, impressed you know this much in only 3 months
@@mosye Wow, you are talking not like having 3months experience but 3 years lol.... but grasping all this knowledge in 3 months is awesome...
Please don't delete it, it's an awesome comment!! I read it fully :) Dw! Even I write so much sometimes and it is ok!!! :) so I understand you! :) and you really did get almost everything here, srsly I feel like nothing in front of ur knowledge even after playing for almost 2 years now...
I literally had to search what is OPPA lol... Anyways I really appreciate you!!! :) YOU ARE AMAZING!!! :) 💗💗❤❤❤💞💞💞💕💕💕
Don't be angry, I am not trying to be rude I am just saying :)👇
just 1 thing about investment is that obviously everything needs investment... the more you do the more overall damage you do...
But I would disagree with you about the hyperbloom investment, it does need investment only because it is hard to find EM pieces... but once you have a set of three EM pieces... that is all you need... no need of even artifact set bonus... you are good to go just like that....
:)
Once again thank you! :)
You exactly know what's up! :) 💗💗💗❤❤❤
Feels like just a skill issue, if you have problems using scara (who has a way better designed kit than yoimiya) I really don't want to know how you feel about playing yoimiya
The video is a huge misguide. I made a detailed comment correcting everything with timestamps. Check it out if you have time. Cheers!
If by skill issue you mean “there are ways to counter the core kit design issues and you don’t know them” then yes I agree. However all these issues happened to me, I had to use Zhongli otherwise he just wasn’t fun. Yoimiya also has internal kit issues that can make her really unfun, and you can fix some of it with Zhongli and the arrows missing at range well tough luck
True. He is like a better Yoimiya. Wanderer actually has some AoE while also having strong single target damage. One Wanderer locks onto an enemy he will not miss.
@@AzureDrag0n1 well said!
imagine liking someone who kills a bunch of people, ruins a bunch of lives, then deletes it from history and gets a second chance at life AND STILL acts like an asshole. terrible character, he should be removed from the game
Scara’s knockback issue is definitely annoying, but nowhere near as bad a people make it out to be. His A4 dashing ability as well as being able to move while flying makes it entirely feasible to play him unshielded. Not only that, him playing a shielder is not at all a detractor, you can still clear abyss and do a lot of dmg with shielders like zhongli, thoma and layla. C6 Thoma especially. I really don’t understand why Scara is so doomposted for “needing” a shield when plenty of other DPSes require it too.
So true, I fully agree. I can't believe how misguided this video was. I don't know whether it was intentional or unintentional, but I made a separate comment (series of comments basically) to clarify the mistakes shown in this video.
This. I gotta hard disagree with Shark on this one. These things may be more annoying between individual players, but these aren't problems. They're cons. Every single character has some, some are more glaring than others (Dehya, I love you but wow. Looking at you.). Wanderer just isn't one of them.
@@reeplays7616 Exactly! I had to type a comment for about an hour to spread awareness about how much misinformation is being spread via this video.
This is besides the point. If anything this video serves as a balanced evaluation of what you should expect when acquiring a copy of Wanderer. Would you have expected his hurt box to be so big? Or that he needed a C6 4 star like Faruzan (to increase his offensive capabilities) or C6 Thoma - if not Zhongli, if you struggle with dodging or managing his dash.
I like this video because shark here also mentions solutions so that the gameplay advertised ( the excellent visual/animation) for this character actually correspond to reality.
Will this video prevent a player from acquiring a copy of Wanderer? No. Personnally, I pulled for him in spite of this video this video. The only and BIG difference is I knew exactly what to expect and not feel disappointed if "my Wanderer" doesn't perform as well. Sometimes the marketing of a product can be a disservice to a community if it's spreading a false image - which is exactly Shark's point here.
@@potakettlefight I agree with some of your points here, but I suggest reading my separate comment to know the complete story. Much of this video (not everything) is misinformation.
First of all it's pretty sus to call your wanderer hyperinvested at a 53/200 ratio. He ascends with crit rate so your total cv is actually really low. It's pretty well known that Wanderer (even more so than other hypercarries) feels WAY better at actually high investment. Second, hypercarries being lackluster without specialized supports is pretty common. Look at Itto. I don't see why Xiao and Wanderer should be any different. Xiao is mid without C6 Faruzan as well, but with her Xiao is one of the best carries in the game. Third, shield reliance is an issue for every single ranged carry. Try playing yoi or Ganyu without a shield and let me know how it goes.
I feel like some of these complaints don't really make sense and are kind of double standards.
So true right? It took me like an hour to write a lengthy comment showcasing everything wrong with this video with timestamps. Check it out if you have time.
Oh yeah, dude, this is a slander video, not an info video. Everything is done for the purpose of making Scara look as bad as possible. Any Scara player worth their salt knows how to get around actual issues. A lot of what's outlined in this video is a straight up lie though.
53/200 is hyperinvested. That's nearly 300cv without a crit weapon.
@@Sergmanny46 something's a bit off with your math. Scara has 24.2% crit rate at level 90, meaning his Scara has a total of less than 29% crit rate from substats. That's 58 cv. All characters start with 50 crit damage, so he has 150 cv there. 208 cv is nowhere near 300 and is certainly not hyperinvestment. Maybe the low end of high investment. But the idea behind hypercarry teams is to invest 4 characters worth of resin into one character rather than splitting investment equally, so of course results will be lackluster if you're playing hypercarry without a very solid build.
@@lawfulevilgloam6445 I mean, I don't think it's as malicious as you're making it out to be lol. He doesn't know what he's talking about, but you can tell he doesn't just hate Scara. His own ignorance is causing him to be disappointed.
The falling thing is just a blatant lie, I had barely ever used wanderer before the current event and even I realised that you can stop the fall animation by jumping
Personally, I think you make these problems seems bigger than they are. Wanderer may have flaws, but at the end of the day, there's nothing you can't solve.
(Wanderer havers, cancel the long animation with pressing space or shift)
Many of the things aren't even issues, read my comment on the main video if you wanna know more.
@@bhavya.prashant I did! And I'm so glad I did! When I watched the video for the first time I noticed that some things were fishy, but reading your comments made me realize that almost nothing is true from what he said, so thank you.
@@dragonborn754 Thank you for taking the time to read it. I'm glad. Have a nice day! :)
@@bhavya.prashant you too!
@@bhavya.prashant How can I find your comment? I’m using the mobile app. I tried to click on your avatar, a window pops, but it only shows the last 3 comments.
By the way, I appreciate your effort in informing people about the scam. Thank you for that.
7:46 Actually you can avoid going all the way down by holding the jump/ascending button on wanderer, I have tried it on mobile and it works
I was going to say, that's been my experience too on PC, albeit I've only had him as a trial character at this point.
@@JustAnotherBuckyLover XDD the reals situation is more liek described in the video
@@ixirion I mean, okay, but I'm not sure how his mechanic would change so fundamentally compared to every other situation where I've used him with regard to the falling interrupt animation. LOL
You can also just dash and he stops falling
yeah you can just cancel the interrupted animation exactly the same as you can on any other character. the video is blatantly lying
50% crit rate and calls his damage lackluster lol. Yeah he has his problems like basically no stagger resistance (which is really his main issue), but like you said, you can easily solve that with a shield or xq swords. I use him in a freeze team with xq, yelan, and Layla on a vv set and it’s one of the best teams I have in abyss. He has 71%cr and 180% cd with 1739 atk with wisdith and regularly hits 6k-10k without wisdith buffs and 10k-13k with buffs.
And as for you missing attacks for him, you weren’t even facing the direction of the enemy when you were attacking (not to mention you could’ve easily solved that by flying). These are telltale signs of a skill issue.
I don’t like how you’re purposely dissuading people from pulling on wanderer like he’s terrible, even though he’s good and way better with high investment. He’s versatile in pretty much any team except for bloom/hyperbloom. Not to mention his overworld utility is priceless.
And before people ask, no I don’t have any personal attachments to this character. I started in 3.1 and never knew about his previous lore and finished his inazuma stuff after I got him. I only had 1 hyper carry before him and it was cyno, who carried me to lategame. Wanderer is a great unit that’s honestly one of the most fun unga bunga characters and I’m tired of people slandering him like he’s useless even though it’s their fault that they can’t use him properly
First, he was absolutely facing the right direction.
Second, in Golden Wolflord example you can see the boss circle before him at different angles and there wasn't a single one where the attack connected.
Third, not only you shouldn't have to control the direction of normal attacks, you are unable to. Genshin auto-rotates you at the nearby enemy when you use normal attacks. It hard magnetizes you at the nearest foe, so hard in fact that even if you want to attack at a random direction you cannot.
So true. I almost came to the same conclusion as you. I even made a separate comment pointing out everything misguiding in this video with time stamps which took almost an hour to type haha. There's more to it than you wrote. Check my comment if you have time. Cheers. :)
@@bhavya.prashant All your points seem to be true except, weirdly, this very one. Just tried Wanderer in trial mode and it doesn't matter that he's the only character who can attack while moving - he still hard magnetizes to the closest enemy, I wasn't able to change the direction of attack on will. Even if you move away from enemies he still faces them.
My guess is that flying bosses' hitboxes are just messed up. Or rather, by hitboxes I mean the "center" points of position that determine where you face when magnetized to them.
@@reignbird I agree with what you're trying to say but the auto targeting mechanic is a general issue with all bow and catalyst characters and not just Wanderer. For example if you have Venti and ever tried him, you know how difficult it is to position his burst at your desired location when there are so many enemies. With that said, I used the word 'difficult' and not 'impossible'. Although I agree that the mechanic is clunky but it's still possible to set your target in desired direction with relatively higher knowledge of game mechanics, strategic positioning and paying attention to in game markers. I hope this helped. Cheers! :)
Trying to attack Wolflord during its invincibility phase. Using Zhongli's pillar to ascend higher than what is normally possible in the Tenacity domain to purposely avoid hitting the enemies.
YOU are the scammer!
While he’s falling when your hit you can click space and you won’t have to wait till he hit the ground
lmao tutorial guy have some serious skill issue
he said that he press them and he still falls. I can confirm that - you are hit by attack that you shouldnt ,you have reaction time, he is almost to the ground and then he stands up. while ofc being vulnerable the whole time.
idk who to believe now
he can recover quickly without even consuming stamina by pressing space after getting knocked back in the air ua-cam.com/video/3KH2u62uJaQ/v-deo.html
@@Justakatto Noone, just go and test him somewhere yourself. Trial or even current event cause he's playable there.
I heard of Scara's story from reddit and that is the reason I started playing Genshin in the first place.
So I will never regret pulling for him. He may not be the most "meta" character but he is still the coolest, to me at least.
This. There's more to pulling a char than just damage. And honestly, that fall animation thing isn't true, if you hit space/ascend as soon as you're hit, it cancels the animation. It's really not that big of a deal, IME. Like sure, I guess if you only pull characters because you want the most uber of uber damage, then don't get him... but yeah. To me, this game is far more than just popping out the biggest damage number I can possibly get and how fast I can do the spiral abyss.
You will my friend. Or at least you will be annoyed often. He didnt mentioned the second biggest flaw after hitboxes. He is Osmanthus level of annoyng to listen to. He strat growing evey 10 sec /EN/. Ofc that cos Hoyo want you to pay them money then log out so they can free server memory XDD
@@ixirion LMAO how do you even play this game, then? Literally *every* character does their idle animation that frequently. If you don't like Wanderer, that's fine... but picking that he has idle animations? That's not a Wanderer issue. LOL That's a Genshin issue.
@@JustAnotherBuckyLover the problem is that his idle animation is very annoyng. In EN at least. Osmantus is N1 but he is close second. Many characters are not annoyng to listen cos their voice is lower.
And yes. I ussualy have my voice to loweset setting. and switch to Jap or Chineese on story quests because Paymon voice make me cringe uncontrolably in EN
thats not a problem problem then
Fun fact: You technically can run Wanderer without a shield character. When Wanderer gets hit midair and starts to fall, you can cancel it and go back afloat by tapping the sprint/jump key althought it consumes some of his stamina.
Kinda weird for someone that has the character, since the 1st banner to have no idea that you can tech after you get hit to recover immediately and continue attacking. Also most of anything said in this video is greatly exaggerated.
Do you jump or dash to recover?
@@norwa3518 Pressing space or shift has the same effect.
I know right? The video is a huge misguide. I made a detailed comment correcting everything with timestamps.
1. You say his damage feels lackluster but don't show any damage showcase of his damage being luckluster and that other teams can do way more damage. Do you have any gameplay or math to prove this? Nothing to back that statement up is shown in this video. What other teams that use bennett are much stronger than wanderer teams with bennett and can you provide anything at all to back that claim up? You showed Wanderer and then a Hyperbloom team, but nowhere in either footage do we actually see the hyperbloom team doing better. You just said it is yet the footage doesnt support that. You are 52 seconds into your hyperbloom time and only killed 5 wolves, not even close to being done with them, while your Wanderer team is already on the 2 big wolves and lector 47 seconds in. How is that in any sense his damage being lackluster and other teams doing more damage?
2. Uhm when does Wanderer's A1 ever get ignored...? Why does using him as an Anemo driver matter for his A1? His A1 has absolutely nothing to do with using him as a driver. It gives him buffs based on what elements his Skill comes into contact with when you cast it. What does that have to do with driving...?
3. Wanderer does not have any issue hitting targets. You said this while showing him attacking the wolflord coming out of its portal. It literally can not be targeted during that animation. You couldve done what you were doing there with any other character and the exact same thing would have happened. Then you show it against the aeonblight while it is in flight - every ranged characters aiming gets jank on the aeonblight while it is midair. Wanderer can workout around this by trying to hit the tail and his A4 can also hit the weakpoint on its chest and knock it down. Or, you could just simply...knock it down with Faruzan.
4. If you are too high to hit enemies in the overworld...just land. They are overworld enemies...whats the issue? And then the footage that you show against those two Geovaship, dude, come on. That is not Wanderer ascended slightly to avoid attacks. I know what Wanderer ascended slightly looks lile. You put him on Zhongli's pillar and used Wanderer's skill from there. that is extremely misleading. Wanderer actually just ascended slightly is not going to have any issue hitting 99% of enemies.
5. That is flat out false and I have no idea how you managed to have Wanderer for this long and think that. Just like any other character, you can cancel Wanderer's interrupted animation. I dont know what button it is on keyboard but on controller you just press the dash button, like literally every other character in the game, to cancel and recover from getting interrupted. I am honestly baffled that you havent tried doing the exact same thing that literally every other character in the game does.
6. Errr no, Zhongli is by no stretch of the imagination the only good shielder for Wanderer. Layla and Thoma both provide a lot more DPS than Zhongli and they absolutely do not run into uptime issues. Thoma literally has a longer uptime than Zhongli (24s vs 20s) and Layla lasts 12s. Wanderer's field time is 12-13s and the last 2 seconds can be spent in an for his burst, so Layla's shield uptime is still plenty for him. And do you have any actual math, gameplay, or anything at all to show that he can't make up for the damage lost by using a shielder instead of an offensive support? because the math shows that his best shield options are not far behind his offensive options, since they all provide him with really good offensive utility anyway.
7. N-no it isn't...while it is true that Wanderer can get hit by a lot of attacks that look like they shouldnt hit him, that does not by any stretch of the imagination make him easier to get hit compared to other characters. Plenty of attacks still just cant hit him, you can move while attacking to stay out of reach for a lot of attacks, and he is the only character in the game that can dodge without taking a DPS loss, when his A4 passive is up. Again it is true that he gets hit by more attacks than it looks like he should, but saying he is easier to hit than other characters on the ground is just false.
When are you going to upload wanderer guide?
@@bijaylimbu5616 hopefully today
So true. The video is a huge misguide. I made a detailed comment correcting everything with timestamps. I recommend checking it out if you have time.
@@bhavya.prashant thank you for doing that!
@@GxGNoir You're very welcome!
Woah! Woah! Good sir. I have nothing against you but what you just said couldn't be further from the truth. Criticizing a subject is one thing but going out of your way to give a misguided representation is another. I agree with a few things like not having any resistance to interruption (which was necessary, but I'll explain that later) but almost all the other things, you intentionally created them which will never exist in a regular or even competitive playthrough.
Baseless arguing won't lead me anywhere, so let me go along and comment with the timestamps from your video. As the explanation is quite big, I'm posting it in replies to this comment. I hope you take the time to read it.
0:38 I'm assuming you're a day 1 player (or maybe you're not and just watched YT video of 1.1) just for reference. Just for info I started playing around December 2021, version 2.3 or 2.4, I guess. Anyways, moving forward...
0:56 It sounds more like sarcasm than praise, but anyways...
1:35 The example didn't make any sense because of what I'm about to clarify below.
1:56 Assuming you're a day 1 player and your most invested character has only 50 crit rate? Interesting. But that's okay, everyone isn't invested into abyss, but wait, you showed your abyss footage at the very beginning of your video. Huh!?
(For reference, although Wanderer (C0) isn't my most invested character, but I have 70-210 crit ratio on him. And yes, I'm F2P (Weapon : Widsith). Moreover I 36-starred the current (3.8) abyss with Wanderer and my first 36 star clear ever were 3.6 and 3.7 which were considered to be the hardest in most people's opinions, but that's a topic for another day.)
2:33 I really don't want to say this but honestly, I think this statement suits you rather than Hoyoverse.
2:44 With all due respect, this is entirely false. At the SAME INVESTMENT LEVEL at C0, Wanderer has the highest SOLO damage output out of any other characters. Take note of my words SOLO (not a full team), SAME INVESTMENT and C0. I have tested this several times and you can too. Plus for more consistency, take a boss who you need like 3 rotations to complete and then calculate for each character because that will show you how Wanderer shines compared to others because he is not burst dependant character, so no energy issues. At even 100 ER, you are bound to get your burst back every other rotation (most of the times).
3:03 Wanderer is probably the only character who benefits from shielders like Layla Thoma etc. equally (if not more) when compared to Zhongli. Layla gives him 20% crit rate, you know the value of 20% crit rate right? And her constellations give him more damage too. Thoma gives him infinite resistance to interruption (yes, even more than Zhongli), pyro resonance and his constellations further boost his damage. Even TTDS Tank C4 yanfei can be used. He is the ONLY character to benefit equally from that many characters and is not dependent on Zhongli. Now tell me whether the above buffs compensate for an offensive support or not?
3:46 It is true that there is a huge difference between C0 and C6 Faruzan, but let me tell you that Xiao needs Faruzan (C6) way more than Wanderer needs her. Along with her buffs and resistance shred which everybody knows at this point, Faruzan is also an excellent battery for Xiao. So, after the release of Faruzan, there is a huge difference in damage of Xiao teams with C6 Faruzan and without her. And I'm in no way saying that Xiao is bad. What I'm trying to say is that Wanderer doesn't suffer from lack of Faruzan (or C6 Faruzan) because
1. His damage is not energy dependent.
2. He is very flexible.
3:50 That's true for every pure hypercarry as the they contribute almost 90% of the team damage, so the more you invest in your hypercarry, the more team damage will be. But let me tell you something, unlike Cyno, Xiao, etc. Wanderer is way too flexible and you can play him in other teams if you're not highly invested. What's the role of supports in hyper carry teams? They all buff the main damage dealer. Let's take an example of hypercarry Raiden. Suppose Bennett multiplies her damage by 1.5, Kazuha by 1.5 and Sara by 1.5 too. Now let's say I replace Sara by Xiangling and she covers the 1.5 damage portion then its the same as the hypercarry (considering overload doesn't mess up obviously) team. And if Raiden was low investment, using highly invested Xiangling can even be a damage boost. Same is for Wanderer. If yours isn't well invested, rather than using supports to multiply his damage, you can use supports that deal more damage. So rather than Wanderer contributing 90% to team damage, he'll do like 60-70% or whatever depending on your replacement.
4:03 Wanderer is Damage per SECOND rather than Damage per SCREENSHOT because his attacks are way too fast. For reference, My SOLO Wanderer without any team deals around 200k damage in one rotation without even using his burst.
4:21 How these A1 bonuses help swirl in any way? There are boosts to raw damage and not elemental reactions. Respectfully, what was even the point of this line? These passives are meant for HYPERCARRY role way more than ANEMO DRIVER one. Plus, regarding swirls in anemo driver role, Wanderer can perform highest swirls in one rotation. Yes! More than Venti and Kazuha because his charged attack has no ICD and can be spammed for like 12-13 times in one rotation unlike any other character.
4:43 True Xiao can't be used as swirl driver, but Wanderer can be (Yes I know you mentioned in text but didn't say it). Infact, Just try Wanderer (Crit VV), Xingqui, Fischl and Beidou and you'll know. And no, driver Wanderer isn't outclassed by other 4-star characters. Just don't build EM on him like Sucrose and build crit.
5:21 LOL, I have no words to type here. And I don't even think after reading everything above, there is even need for me to type anything here.
(For reference - You can build Freeze, Double Hydro, Double Pyro, Double Geo, Mono Anemo, Electro-charged, Aggravate and even Hyperbloom Wanderer. I don't think any DPS character has that flexibility.)
5:55, 6:08, 11:51, 12:43, 13:17 Dude, you're intentionally pressing buttons in the opposite direction just to misguide and prove your point. One thing you may not know that Wanderer is the ONLY character that can MOVE WHILE ATTACKING. And your character movement in a particular direction clearly shows where you are intentionally trying to aim i.e. in opposite direction to the enemy. Look carefully at 6:19 where you tried moving towards the enemy, it aimed correctly. Please just watch carefully at your own footage. It is true that Wanderer's auto-targeting isn't always perfect in case of multiple enemies (but it never misses until you try intentionally or due to big height difference) but that is the case with every catalyst and every normal attacking bow character. And there are even ways to get around that.
6:23, 6:49, 2:26, 16:00 Wanderer has various levels of height. First, when you use your skill, second when you press jump just one time. At these positions (and if the ground isn't absurdly uneven or like you're on the cliff and enemy is on the ground), the attacks will DEFINITELY hit. Press jump one more time and then you'll still hit larger enemies but not smaller ones. And it is never required to fly this high unless either you're exploring and not fighting, or you're making a meme, just like you're doing in the video.
It’s impressive how low you can stoop to farm views by fabricating blatant lies that uninformed people will believe
This is a severe over statement on his problems. I have been playing Wanderer for months and you easily can work around his issues. It is sort of like saying Childe is bad because he can not plunge. You can play around his limitations pretty easily and if you do he can be one of the most powerful characters on your account. My C1 Wanderer is more useful to me than my c2 Raiden. This is because he is very good at certain types of content that most other characters are bad at. For example Thundering Manifestation or targets that spawn far away frequently. His attacks have very good tracking. That thing with wolflord tracking is something that most catalyst users have and he actually is not affected by him as much than other ones. He is actually quite good against Wolflord compared to other catalysts when you are using his flight mode.
Those mushrooms he was not hitting could be easily hit by just backing off a bit and using a charge attack but you just generally learn to play around slopes so you approach combat by being slightly below them.
His special dash will always trigger after an 2xN2C combos. I have never not seen it trigger no matter what constellation or gear you are wearing. You get a sound effect and a visual indicator for it too.
This is more a game issue than the character. Wanderer is basically limited by the game's flaws than him himself being flawed. For a game that makes millions of dollars every months Genshin has one of the worst hitbox and auto targetting system in my experience. If they fix that it'll most likely improve Wanderer a lot.
Spill. We are not tolerating any Wanderer slander here y'all
How does that change anything? He still feels garbage to play with mid dmg in the end so why does it matter what's the reason? He needs extremely high investment to even come close to other dps characters and still is garbage.
@@Duck-nt2dm I have a few friends who invested a lot into him and he does better damage than a lot of other really great characters. Maybe it depends on artifact luck, weapons, etc. but high investment really does seem to be good for him. Either way a lot of people pull for many more reasons than meta, and personally I find that's the most fun way to play, but to each their own.
@@Duck-nt2dm Just because his damage isn't the "best" doesn't mean that his damage isn't good enough to complete the content provided by the game. The auto aiming being trash is also one of the reason why almost all the catalyst characters feels terrible to use. People who likes Wanderer for their own reasons can't even enjoy playing him with the game's current state. Not everyone is a tier list andy. They need to fix the damn game's hitbox and auto aiming for the sake of improving the gameplay in general. idk why you're coping with bad game design and making excuses.
@@bigfootisreal_typical genshin player getting triggered
THIS MIGHT SOUND LIKE A HATE> BUT PLEASE UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY i have been 36*ing abyss with Wanderer without any shielder in his team, I have C5 Faruzan, with C4 Benny and Kazuha in my team. I have the same C1. I got a early, and I am f2p. But I have Lost prayer. You Only have 50 crit rate, my ration is 88/203 with 1900 attack. If you have more crit rate at a loss of crit dmg, you will have MUCH MUCH more consistent dmg output. i understand that you are using Mika, but other than the attack speed boost, and a bit of healing, he does nothing that significant to Wanderer. Yea the attack speed gives a solid dmg output increase, but the 4 piece pavilion with C1 is more than enough. AND if you decided not to use benny on Wanderer's team, that's not really Wanderer's fault is it? you second team could be a hyperbloom team or any team related to dendro. There are many 4* characters that are very good for dendro teams. i pulled for Wanderer instead of Raiden when he came out, and he isn't bad as you put him to be. you literally have Zhongli and you complain about him getting knocked back. I understand that you have Ganyu and you need Zhongli for her, but in that case Ganyu is Far worst than Wanderer. I have no Shielder in his team and I can 36* abyss no problem. you can time your dash attack by using that to dodge mid air. There are so many ways you could play him better than you put him to be. He isn't bad at all in my opinion. you don't even need me to say about his exploration skills, But bruh really tho. when I saw the 50 crit rate I was pretty mad ngl. ik this sounded very much like a hate. but this video shouldn't even exist. As a player we can flexibaly play him . It just the matter if you could use him well. faruzan, might be incomplete until C6. but 30 anemo shredd and 30 anemo dmg bonus is not small buffing, I don't get why you said she is wasting a slot, when I have C5, worst yet I have C4 benny. and it took me like 2 months to get that stats, but like be honest, which DPS character were you able to farm so quickly in the first place?. He has a very good f2p weapon asell, I don't get why you said use plenty primos to get him a weapon. also the bosses you were fighting to show that he doesn't aim the enemy. the first one you were supposed to break the wings, no one would even do that. the second inazuma character, why would you even go that high? the 3rd enemy, the fungi you were even higher, ANd my man said slightly above them. Like bruh that's not really an issue, you being dumb is the issue. Like the whole point of this video is like you explaining you don't know how to play him properly. also you can just press jump when you get hit to IMMEDIATLY cancel the animation.
As a wanderer haver that cleared the abyss ( 36* ) I'm agree with you🤌
Just get one more Faruzan. It’ll make a big difference
It's very strange, you used footage from the event game where he's shooting the balloons to show that he had to fall all the way down but I literally just did that yesterday and I did not have that problem at all. I pressed the skill button again and he came out of the fall right away. I don't have him so I don't know if that was a change specifically for the event or what but I definitely didn't ever have to fall all the way down before recovering
i was thinking the same thing
I have him and can tell you it's not just in the event. You can always get him up again like that. Also I don't regret getting him. He works perfectly fine if you know how to use him and is fun to play if you do it right. The bigger problem is, that most other characters are just TOO EASY to use and make him seem bad that way.
Yeah, the fall animation is very easy to cancel. Everyone knows how to do this. If you try him again in the event or in his trial tomorrow, you'll see that there's no issue with targeting either. This review was just dishonest and misinforming.
The video is a huge misguide. I made a detailed comment correcting everything with timestamps.
Felt like a haters video. . .
Sorry
Also, you should already know (if you had been "playing for almost 3 years") that Anemo DPS are on strange place
Although, is mainly the players fault who don't realize that Anemo DPS are all about RAW DAMAGE and NOT elemental damage
I know right? The video is a huge misguide. I made a detailed comment correcting everything with timestamps.
Which is why Physical and Geo seem to suffer a similar fate. While I may agree that all of the 3 may not perform as well as other characters due to lack of elemental reactions, but Physical units like Eula and Geo units like Itto seem to be very strong despite all of that. With dedicated and carefully picked supports, a good build (even an F2P one) and good rotations, they can perform very well. Not the "meta" kind of well, but way better than what people give them credit for. Same thing with Anemo DPS like Wanderer, or someone like Xiao even
Because it is. Sharkh3art probably just riding the Zajef77 hate train. Luckily people with above room temp IQ know both their videos are full of misinfo.
Quite literally the a good example of skill issue😭
Wanderer is bad -> Running him with Kuki and Ganyu -> Right...
PS: I have Faruzan at C1 and still work great with Wanderer. C6 is a plus but not compulsory.
I don't think this video will be good for your reputation. The Wolflord cannot be targeted in that fase not only by Wanderer, but by any characters in the game. You can cancel the fall animation by dashing. You were unpractically high for those geo vishaps, real players would not get that hight during normal play, I'm afraid (and that's what it looks like) you purposefully went that high to make the aiming issue seem worse. I don't think you have skill issue, because based on the rest of your videos you are a good player, but something is wrong here, like you didn't bother to learn his mechanics.
I think the problem with this "review" kind of, is that you only look at him in a meta/abyss use, and you are REALLY harsh on him. you can cancel the fall animation when knocked, running any shielder will do, using a good freeze team will make it much easier on the attacks taken, and so on.
overall, you had WAY too high expectations for him, and deceived yourself. that's what im taking from this.
sure, you had a lot of good points for some of his flaws, but that was really harsh.
Unfortunately obtaining 5 star characters are expensive like 28,800 primogems or 450 dollars to guaranteed a single limited character banner, extremely high expectation is needed if you're a guide content creator who cater to newbies and F2P with diverse experiences and 'lucks', maybe I will pull for him later when I have all characters that I prioritize first.
Not to mention, if we’re talking about abyss meta, Wanderer has been proven to he an excellent DPS for speedrunning comparable to characters like Hu Tao, Raiden, Alhaitham, and Childe. And plenty of speedrunners have managed to speedrun him without requiring a shield.
The video creator went out of his way to show some flaws that aren't really there. The video is a huge misguide. I made a detailed comment correcting everything with timestamps. Check it out if you have time.
@@rickydinto then there must be a whole load of other limited 5-stars who should receive the same amount of high expectations, but so far the ones who have it the roughest are Yoimiya and Wanderer, and they aren't even as bad as people make them out to be
7:50 But in the most recent Event, there is a challenge where we can play as Wanderer. In case we get hit with a balloon, you can just press ‚jump‘ button and the animation cancels itself…. Idk, didn’t feel like it was a problem
True, even many 'issues' highlighted in this video aren't actually issues. I made a comment explaining everything.
That's an event. We can't do that with the actual character just like we cannot infinitely zoom like in the event either.
@@cocogoat1111 We can do that with actual character too. Read my separate comment if you really wanna know the details. Peace!
@@cocogoat1111I recently pulled and got wanderer and I can confirm you can definitely animation cancel his fall by pressing the jump or dash button
The best way to understand his role and necessary supports is to say he is a catalyst anemo yoimiya. Use a shield, bring some additional elements for his A1 passive, be aware of A2 passive proc and use the free dash when you can to reposition. As for aiming issues, that’s like saying Ayaka is bad because her burst aimed at a single enemy and didn’t hit the larger group of enemies. He is the most mobile character in the game with free dashes that do damage built into his kit so simply position him accordingly. I’m not saying he is perfect and I agree his lack of interrupt resist is frustrating, but every carry is used with supports to allow them to act as the main dps (Hu Tao, Yoimiya, Eula, Ayaka, Itto, Xiao, etc). If you think wanderer looks fun pull for him and like any main dps build the team around him and invest in him! :)
I agree completely it's not a solo game every character has their strengths and the rest of the team is supposed to cover their weaknesses. My only complaint for Wanderer is I want to fly with him for longer so, he will definitely have a hydro with him at all times for his ascension passive.
Yeah is like the people who say that hu tao is bad if you don't have her C1, she can perfectly be played without it you just need to invest in the right things and adjust to what you have instead of complaining in everything you don't have
So true. I agree with you. The video is a huge misguide. I made a detailed comment (took me almost an hour haha) correcting everything with timestamps. Check it out if you have time.
Bro took every wanderer problem and over exaggerated them alot lmao
I have him and don't regret him. And I personally think that most Genshin Characters are just too easy to use. Most of them don't need much skill to play. So people get frustrated with a character if he's a bit harder. I know people who do LOTS of damage with him and they are F2P!
I almost NEVER get hit while playing him. It's all about positioning your character. I don't even use a shielder on him, don't need it!
I love him and even in Spiral Abyss I'm doing great with him!
Bro finally someone speaking the facts, all these zhongli slaves and their skill issue 💀
I'm yet to use a shielder in this game (currently only have C4 Layla but she's lv1), and afraid that if I pull for Zhongli he'll make me braindead 😂
@@SabakuSasoriZhongli does make the experience better for casual players, and there are characters that do need him such as yoimiya to fire her entire attack string
Wanderer just isn't one of those characters, he resets his attacks very quickly and he gets non-stamina dashes that even do damage with his passive... If you can dodge well then most of the point in this vid are invalid or easily worked around lol
@@nedf538 Yeah exactly! There are quite a few characters who get called bad by the meta people but if you know how to use them then you'll have a great time. Guess that can be hard for people who are used to rely on Zhongli
I fully agree. I'm F2P and 36-starred this abyss with him. Plus I wrote a separate comment clarifying everything wrong in this video with timestamps. Check it out if you have time.
He's enough for me because I don't need high damage numbers to enjoy the game and I would say that everyone needs to find what they enjoy about the game because it doesn't help to have the strongest characters if you don't like playing them.
He has good dmg with faruzan
That's true. You don't need big damage to enjoy the game. And he is the best for exploration. But that said, this video is a huge misguide. I made a detailed comment correcting everything with timestamps. Check it out if you have time.
Nah, he’s horrible and a waste of primogems
His damage is ok, the problem is everything surrounding the damage kinda like yoimiya or cyno
@@whaleking6445with c6 faruzan he claps hypercarry Raiden in damage contests. What are you even on about? You got a source cause I do.
Honestly people usually quite like him for the fact that he can fly despite it being so short...he is quite good in the overworld ....just pull for him if you l8ke his deßign after all that's what gacha is supposed to be .. personally I hate his personality but hey to each their own 🍷
but the thing about Genshin it’s a Gacha “Rpg” which means ur supposed to build a team with the things you acquired not for collection it sucks more if you are a f2p because if you decided to get Wanderer you might not have a strong team after ur luck which obviously means Wanderer aka (Disappointment) sucks usually in AR 50+ because he is not worth it anymore, don’t get me wrong i like the idea of Wanderer having a Unique Character like naming him or flying but that’s not the point of Rpg
@@Xeno1_3 ikr..but hey at least it's free and on mobile..like that fact alone makes it worth it...also don't pay attention to the rpg workings ...hell if built right even amber does 200k dmg 💀..so just wish for the characters you WANT and not NEED ...for me the characters I pulled are both meta and I love their design so a win win of..but pull for who you want and with enough grinding you will do Big dmg anyways👍
@@Xeno1_3 I wonder if you even enjoy playing the game at all with that mindset when you only need strong characters for the abyss and only for the last 6 stars, you can do most other things with any character so why limit yourself to meta for 50 primos if you don’t have fun
@@Xeno1_3
It's paradoxes, he's so good for overworld in low adventure rank but at same time he's expensive to build and restrictive in team combination a.k.a newbie unfriendly, I still want to pull for him tho but I can't spend more than $100 on top of monthly subscription (Welkin Moon Blessing) on gacha game, I need versatile exploration team hence I chose Kokomi and possibly Yelan in the next patch 4.0
@@SunsetTwist
It's actually 50 primogems per chamber of 4 floors with 3 chambers {600 primogems in total}, btw sorry in advance I'm having fun by skipping him for other characters because I'm not a whale who can pull every single characters that I want anytime, I'm not doing Spiral Abyss yet but I have to skip him for other characters first...😢
All those things you mentioned is your fault not Wanderer's. You don't use him properly then you cry. It's like to put Deepwood memories artifact on Kazuha lmao.
Skill issue, i have him c0 and i dont see any problem with it
Big tip if ur actually considering getting wanderer: he is by design a hypercarry, so if ur not ready to go balls deep for a C6 Faruzan, spend thousands of resin on his dedicated artifact set, and triple crown him, then he isn’t rlly worth to pull. However, if u do like him that much and want to vertically invest into him, than he is definitely worth the pull, cuz assuming those criteria are met, he actually is all in all a very good on field damage dealer. So good, he can actually give other top tier dps like Hu Tao and Ayaka a run for their money.
I agree he scales very well with vertical investment. But that said, a C0 free to play Wanderer is also very powerful. Not to mention him being best in the open world. The video is a huge misguide. I made a detailed comment correcting everything with timestamps. Check it out if you have time.
@@bhavya.prashant as a Wanderer main myself i definitely agree with you that he is a very powerful dps. Heck, i myself have him at C0 with an R5 widsith and he absolutely slaps both overworld and abyss. it's just that most of my experience playing him was with C6 Faruzan since i got her the same time i was pulling for Wanderer on the current banner, so i can't rlly comment on pre- C6 faruzan Wanderer or Faruzan-less Wanderer. i just wanted to make sure that my comment wasn't biased cuz of my experience of wanderer with C6 Faruzan.
@@oyfum2638 I understand your concerns but as I've mentioned in my detailed comment, he is very flexible as a DPS character and hypercarry team isn't his only viable team. I suggest you check my comment in case you wanna know more.
@@oyfum2638 I'm a F2P Wanderer main with C1 (by luck) of him, using Faruzan who is below C6 (C2 to be precise, unfortunately), with no Bennett. Triple-crowned, with Skyward Atlas and his 4pc set. Got him just recently, as soon as his rerun banner was released. And so far this is very accurate, he's the only reason why I was able to carry out the abyss in the first place. I was always stuck at floor 10 before I had him, only now I was able to reach floor 12 at all. The only issue was the other team I use, not even his own team. He deals a good amount of raw damage (no food, no supports). With supports his performance is way better, of course. But having a non-C6 Faruzan as the support, he's still pretty good, it's not biased to say he's a powerful DPS on his own already. While his playstyle may be a bit wonky sometimes, personally I haven't had major issues with him nor his damage. Even during his flight, I actually didn't get interrputed as much as I thought I would
All of this to say, his playstyle is not for everyone. While for some it works, for some it may not. But it doesn't mean he's as bad as people say, or that he's weak without C6 Faruzan, in my experience: not at all
Everything that you mentioned is a half-аssеd excuse and besides the point, it's just as true for any other character. If you don't invest in your other on-fielders, they're also not 36-starring the abyss. Most don't need the hyperinvestment to be at least functional and not dоgshit though.
2:43
Everyone needs a teammate/support (invested):
Noelle/Itto and their batteries
Xiangling needs bennet (with ER)
Hutao needs xingqiu or yelan (with ER)
Xiao needs batteries and favonious or sacrificial
Ayato needs reactions (same with Nahida/Kuki)
wanderer needs faruzan c6, if you got faruzan c6, you can substitute bennet for someone else
5:40
you need to know his range (and he's the only 5star long range auto target, CA can miss)
@ezioauditore5616 So true. I agree with your points. I made similar points to in a separate comment. Just my comment is a bit detailed. Hey! And fun fact, I love Assassin's Creed too and Ezio is my favourite character of all time. :D
As someone who started relatively recently (patch 3.8), and followed your F2P advices as hard as I could, I'm impressed how much you dropped the ball on this one.
The only reason I pulled Wanderer was because I wanted a character to make exploration easier and faster for me since I had pretty much all Genshin's content worth of chests and oculi to find, him being an Hypercarry archetype was just an added bonus for someone like me who didn't have many of the good units at the time (like Bennet or Xinqiu) and the ones I did still wanted to be off-field supports (Xianling, Fischl).
Having a Faruzan, even at C2, not only helped me boost his damage drastically, but it also meant I could have the units I had invested so far in one team of the abyss, while having Wanderer, Faruzan and other 2 flex characters for the second team, even without a shield. As soon as I got Bennet to battery Xianling I could clear 12-3, but Wanderer's teams damage was also never disappointing.
Does Wanderer have flaws? Yes, and that's something I looked for it before pulling for him, hence why after finding out the event was giving Layla I've stopped everything to do it and get her.
Does he need Faruzan C6? Absolutely not, but I understand if people are not willing to play her with 300% ER (neither am I, I just burst with her every other cycle instead).
Does his auto-aim sucks? No, auto-aim sucks in general. Everyone who have auto-aim has the same issue so that problem isn't Wanderer's alone (Venti's ult sends their regards).
Is his flight mechanic deceiving? Yes, but if it didn't work like that he would be completely busted. You would be able to ignore the ice prison, fire floor and many other enemies mechanics.
For every problem you point out there's an obvious and simple solution, and while I agree on your position to not buy something with a problem so they can sell you the solution, chances are that if you pulled for Wanderer you already got some Faruzan's copies passively, so it's not like you spent more than you should. Layla was given for free in an event during his recent banner so event his lack of interruption resistance could be circumvented by a F2P like me. The only scenario I can see people spending more than they should, is when they jump the gun on Faruzan C6 because all of the doomposting surrounding her.
PSA for Wandwer wanters, don't let anyone's opinion be the basis of your own judgement. If you wanna pull for Wanderer go for it.
Wanderer is one of the fastest characters to clear the abyss
Of course
Wanderer mains be coping with Genshin noir because he overrates him to oblivion
@@Yor-Yor-Yor if you have right to cope we have right to cope. Equal rights for everyone. You keep believing your character is better while we believe wanderer is better. Holding opinion is fine as long as you know how to present it without harming others beliefs. I hope you are mature enough to understand that.
@@playmobilegamescodm jokes on you one of my characters is also Wanderer
@@Yor-Yor-Yor one of my character is Raiden Shogun. I don't think she is much better than wanderer may be just 1 point better than wanderer.
How Wanderer's damage is nothing too crazy, when he's one of the best characters for speedruns?
Because he doesn't know what he's talking about lol
LOL my Wanderer does massive damage so I think its a skill issue
@miraak8028 I think a lot of it comes down to people got him spent like a couple days building him or just slapped on him what they had and went "oh he's not good" and gave up instead of spending the time a hypercarry needs to be built properly.
I have a c6r5 wanderer, imo he’s probably not the best choice for speedrunning at c0 compared to characters that rely heavily on reactions, is this data from his c0? If it’s c6 I agree, his c6 is one of the best in the game. But he is really fun and speedrunning isn’t everything ofc
@lychee0127 I can't see it anymore (idk if the site got removed or what) but I know he was one of the top performers at the lowest level of investment for speedruns but idk if he was able to have constellations because his teammates were all 4 stars or not. In this instance I'm using investment to mean cons mainly obviously all the characters have amazing artifacts. I would assume he was able to be c1 at least.
If you want him to be meta, you're better off with Nahida Kazuha etc, but honestly everything else with his playability is kind of a skill issue. Either learn to use his dashes effectively or get him a shield.
As someone who doesn't usually use a shielder with Wanderer, I can confirm this video is giving skill issue. 😅
I agree. And the meta thing isn't even the complete story. The video is a huge misguide. I made a detailed comment correcting everything with timestamps. Check it out if you have time.
@@dragonborn754fr this video is pure skill issue
He gives a unique field experience, so cool to play with.
After a long practice he can perfectly clear any dungeon in game and also works perfecly with a low Layla, no need ZL.
So true. Infact he's the only character with which Layla and Thoma are better than Zhongli. The video is a huge misguide. I made a detailed comment correcting everything with timestamps. Check it out if you have time.
Layla is exactly the shielder I use for him. Not only does her shield also deal extra damage, but if you use a hydro on the team you can very well play a Wanderer freeze team and spam charged attacks to keep enemies stunned for a long time, which is exactly the strategy I use, since my Wanderer's build is not very suitable for normal attacks (and his CA seem to deal way more damage per second, too), at least it doesn't seem to be
I'm sorry shark, your takes are usually pretty spot on and your videos have helped me immensely, but most of the problems you pointed out in this video seem more like a skill issue / low undertanding of his mechanics than anything else...
(long comment ahead)
just wanted to preface this by saying that ive managed to 36 the abyss multiple times with him at c0, r2 widsith, c1 thoma, c0 bennet (yes, c0 😭) and no faruzan (tho i did use c0 kazuha) and pretty mid artifacts (around 70cr and 150cd 2pc VV and 2pc DPC)...after i got c6 faruzan, did it again but with no shielder (same build for wanderer) ((not trying to flex, just wanted to contextualize my own thoughts 😅))
for example, the long animation when hit can be cancelled by simply dashing or jumping right after (works on mobile, pc, console), similar to how people will animation cancel hutao's CA
you mentioned in the video that you have tried pressing all sorts of buttons to avoid the animation but to no avail...honestly, thats actually pretty weird...maybe its some other config/set up problem? bc ive played him both on my phone and pc in various situations and have always managed to animation cancel by dashing or jumping, to the point that after his 1st banner, for the longest time i had genuinely no idea he had a fall animation bc i just kept furiously clicking dash every time he got hit 😅 (and it worked lmao)
his dashing passive also allows you to time your dashes and reposition yourself to hit enemies better, without wasting any of his flying stamina and by extend dmg potential
also, about the hit box problem...there's two main things that imo you forgot to consider: 1) unfortunately, genshin as a whole has a hit box problem, especially for catalysts and bows...im a huge fan of yanfei as she has as much targeting problems as wanderer (if not worse); 2) just like how when using meele characters you're not expected to be standing far away from them to hit them, with wanderer you can easily fix most of his targeting problems in weird terrain situations by entering his skill in a more favorable position, which you will learn just by playing him a few times in the overworld...again, i think its ok to point that problem out, but to me it seems to circle back to not fully understanding his gameplay mechanics?
i also think its unfair to judge him by his swirl capabilities bc well...he's a hypercarry...he's not designed to be swirling elements like sucrose or kazuha, who both have completely different purposes kit-wise
however (in my opinion) the fact that he's anemo is an advantage bc it makes him pretty flexible (since anemo is a neutral element) with team compositions...yes, sometimes (most times) sucrose and kazuha would be better meta options...but playing hyperbloom wanderer, mono cryo wanderer, mono pyro, melt, etc is super fun and >functional< in ways that you wouldn't always have with other element drivers/hypercarries, at least not with just 1 character
one last thing, i just want to make it pretty clear that my intention isnt to make this comment/mini rant sound confrontational!!! its far from it actually, i think its perfectly valid to dislike him/his playstyle/his dmg output for whaterver reason...i just think its a bit unfair to frame most of these issues as universal problems that every player will have if pulling for him, when most of them can be circumvented pretty easily by learning his mechanics, investing in him (as you're expected to with every single hypercarry) or instead by ajusting his teams to cover his weaknesses (much like how you do with literally every single other character in the game)...this is why i wanted to share my opinion on the matter
anyway, have a great day, and i'll continue to look forward to your next videos
7:45 is just straight up misinformation, we can simply press jump/dodge to consistently tech fall recover. Are you sure it's not skill issue? I've been maining Wanderer for 7 months and I've never encountered that falling issue.
Not just this, almost the entire video is a huge misguide. I made a detailed comment correcting everything with timestamps.
6:00 It seems more like a serious case of Skilluse or forcing improbable situations to demonstrate "how bad Wanderer's Autotarget is". When, in fact, he has the best Autotarget among long-range characters based on NA lol.
I fully agree. The video is a huge misguide. I made a detailed comment correcting everything with timestamps.
@@Cxvlestial honestly his targetting is genuinely pretty good, it only becomes "bad" when the enemies are too high up or too low beneath him, but that should be the case for anyone. It's not even the targetting issue but a hitbox one. If the hitbox of the enemy is too high or too low, he just won't be able to reach it. Personally, I've always preferred catalysts' autotargetting, it seems to be the most accurate and it can damage and reach the enemy pretty easily, I've had more problems with sword and bow users' autotargetting if anything. In my playtime I haven't met nearly as many problems as described in the video. On the contrary, his playstyle is the most comfortable for me personally. I've tried every trial character I could during the custom domain event, none of them sat right with me except for him
I don't usually say this because it's cringe but it truly feels like some of these problems stem from skill issue lmaoooo 💀
Shark. What is going on?...idk I really want to laugh and say "skill issue" but you sound so mad in this video. This video is not a hot take... Are you ok?
The video is a huge misguide. I made a detailed comment correcting everything with timestamps. Check my comment if you have time.
@@bhavya.prashant I just saw it. I agree with your comments. Originally, I was not looking for an echo chamber with my comment. I'm legitimately concerned about why Shark is going so hard on this character.
@@suquoia Thank you for taking the time to read my comment. As for why the video creator did that, I honestly have no idea. I have nothing against him but wanted to spread awareness. Peace!
one video and all trust i had in you, left. you can not vibe with a character but this is just lying
How can you misunderstand his A4 to this degree. It feels like you're being deliberate just to make a video
7:57 this is actually un true. If you use his dash button when you get hit, it’ll cancel half the falling animation, so you *dont* have to fall all the way to the ground.
Many things are untrue actually. I made a separate comment with timestamps.
@@bhavya.prashant thank you for that. I made a 6 paragraph text message to the friend who sent me this, highlighting everything that was un true, and why it’s un true. They don’t have the wanderer, and it makes me mad that they decided to send me this anyway, when I can literally prove to them that these are un true.
I was debating posting that message in the comments, but it was very long.
@@EggoEcho Similar case was with me. Hence I chose to type the message, although it took me like an hour haha.
@@bhavya.prashant it took me 45 minutes
This video is unusually innacurate for you. Almost every issue you point out is either exaggerated, flat out incorrect, or just a result of skill issue. (Like for example wanderers damage is absurdly high with c6 Faru, not meh)
I don’t even like wanderer but this video was an L my guy. Please do your research next time.
Lol xD So you expect Wanderer to be able to do damage while being high enough for enemies to not to reach you? What did you expect by this? xD Did you expect 100% survivability? Thank you for the good laugh sir xD
lol since my comment is being deleted, I'll comment here! I agree XD
Skill issue with using wanderer He is very easy to use
I’m sorry but some of this is so clearly disingenuous. You’re complaining about his aiming and missing but all the footage you show if you purposefully setting yourself in scenarios to make it happen. You’re staying as close to the ground as possible against the flying wolf lord/Aeon drake when you can literally just rise up a little higher to hit them just fine… and then when showing normal enemies you chose to rise super high above them to make him unable to target those too. You literally did the opposite of what you should do in both scenarios to try and super exaggerate a point.
I have almost completed the 5 star characters but for me wanderer is the best and I don't regret that I pulled him
I know right? The video is a huge misguide. I made a detailed comment correcting everything with timestamps. Check my comment if you have time.
@noorslibrary but he doesn’t suck ass so um ye if u don’t want him then period u do that but he’s not that bad or bad at all like 💀💀
Quite a shame he has all these issues, but regardless I'm still pulling for him because I still adore him (^·^)
Good luck!! I have him and I love his playstyle! Really happy with him and I have no knock back issues or anything else of these so called flaws. Just look up how to use him and you'll have plenty of fun!
@@MrChocolateCookiie I tried him before and I love his playstyle! I have a freeze team ready and I'm going to use Layla as the shield for the knockback. I'm not sure I'll get him bc I only have 31 pulls and 20 pity.. tysm tho!
I actually don’t know how his wanderer does so little damage, mine is c0 with that standard c5 catalist da gives crit hate that i cant remember the name and by his own he does arround 20k per charged attack. I found his best team of you dont have c6 faruzan is a tazer team because he attacks so fast, i go with fischl, xinquiu and yelan, is super satisfying agains multiple enemies.
Plus he is absolutely the best character for overworld exploration, paired with yelan your team moves so fast, when his skill is on cd you use yelans and just go places
Ps, his lack of interruption resistance isn’t really a problem because you are supposed to dodge all the time because of his passive that gives you free dashes when using skill and attacking
I still pulled him last night knowing he's mid asf haha
i understand regreting geting wanderer but you can't IiteraIy Iie in your vid and expect me to take if 100% seriousIy for the knockdown thing press shift and it dosen't happen and toma IiteraIy has more uptime than ziongIe and the damage thing is debateabIe and wanderers a1 isn't as bad as you say in teams when you use IayIa and benny thats 20% cr and 20% damage increase wich Iowers his needs by a Iot for the woIf Iord you can't even target it in the beginning you were aiming away from the boss 2 aIso the anti aim thing in the air isn't that bad and is actuaIIy pretty hard to teII if you move sIightIy
I really didn't have high hopes for someone who didn't understand something as simple and clear cut as Wanderer's ascension 4 passive, but then I got to whatever the fuck _that_ is (5:53) and I realized that it's just on purpose. I just gotta fucking laugh at the drake clip, because my man is fighting for his _life_ trying to aim _anywhere else_ than at the drake. And the second he actually vaguely turns in its direction Scara _still hits it._ The following clip where he "ascends slightly" even though everyone and their 99 year old blind grandma can see it clearly wasn't _slightly_ is just the cherry on top. Intentionally climbing on top of Zhongli's pillar and using Wanderer's E for sure is something that normally happens nor can be classified as "slightly" in any form of the word. Out of all of the things that were wrong in this video, this one couldn't have been more so. I get *amazed* by how good Wanderer's targeting is, especially in the vertical department
Somehow I didn't expect to see more inaccurate, worse takes than Zajef, but congratulations. You have done it. Like, I actually don't think there is a single thing that's correct in this
The funny thing is that he is mad about hight problems. And then in the video when he need the height to attack the drake he doesn't ascend and in where it doesn't need to ascension he goes up... Even Archers cannot shoot under thier foot. And scara charge attack manage to hit them.. even behind walls
So, as a Wanderer main, here’s my opinion on this. I don’t disagree with everything, he can be annoying sometimes.
2:53 : Personally, I’ve barely invested on my Wanderer. He does around 20-30k dmg just with Bennet as a support. I’ve also barely used him with Faruzan bcuz I’m too bored to invest in her, but she still helps him do 20-30k even tho she’s lv40, C1 and not even on set.
4:18 : I do take advantage of swirl reactions actually. He may not swirl as much as my Kazuha, but he does swirl around 2-3k which is nice additional dmg.
6:00 : That, I can definitely agree with. It’s not annoying only bcuz he can’t aim, but bcuz u constantly have to adjust your height. If you’re too high, u won’t be able to hit the targets below, and if ur too low, like in the boss u fought, he won’t be able to hit targets that are high. But, that makes sense at least?
7:28 : Well, people have already talked about that, so I’m just gonna add that u can put characters like Xingqiu in ur team that decrease resistance to interruption and deal a lot of dmg off field.
And sth I’d like to add is that he’s pretty much the best unit for exploration. Not just bcuz he can fly. In Sumeru for example, u usually need a bow character to do most of the puzzles. Wanderer helps wit that. Those floating flowers in Liyue that u also need a bow character for? He also helps with that and he does it fast.
In the end, u should just pull for the character that matches ur playstyle preferences the most. For me, Wanderer’s attacks are more satisfying than dendro reactions, for example. It’s all up to preference.
Do you NEED Zhongli to shield him ? Also i only have Kazuha as my only 5 ⭐️ so should i get him?
@@user-hf6lb5ep6e Well, Zhongli may be the best shielder in the game and does provide a lot more value, but tbh even if u don’t have him, like me, u can use any available shielder. U may have shield for less time, but it’s more convenient than going for a whole 5*. Also, if u have supports like Benny/Xingqiu/Xiangling and similar in ur team, I’d recommend using a shielder that can proc reactions with them for more dmg.
Well, if u like Wanderer’s character, appearance, kit, playstyle etc etc, I’d say go for him. He’s a pretty fun and helpful character. Kazuha works the best with dps characters that have elements he can swirl tho. So if u want a team where u can utilize Kazuha, I’d recommend waiting for the Fontaine characters and reruns to see if u like someone else. Hope this helped.
@@user-hf6lb5ep6e No you don't need Zhongli Infact he's the only character with which Layla and Thoma are better than Zhongli. The video is a huge misguide. I made a detailed comment correcting everything with timestamps. I recommend checking it out if you wanna make a informed decision.
why are u not even facing the enemies when attacking and complaining about how the attacks aren’t hitting???? it’s the same with my yenfei …
this person is either trying to bad-mouth Wanderer with made-up scenarios, or he is a genuinely bad player, or he is trying to whip up controversy as click bait. At any rate, I blocked this channel on my YT
It's not the first time I've heard these opinions, it speaks to the lack of skill in the player, and sometimes I wonder what if such characters as Hu Tao, Klee (despite the fact that she officially has the most clumsy pressing in the genshin community) came out now, and not 2 years ago? would there be as many stupid videos and whining about their game?
just because you don't like the character doesn't mean he's bad and doesn't give you the right to invent faults for him that's complete bs and this video is a complete bias
also skill issue
For anyone that noticed misinformation from this video, remember that you can report for misinformation.
I'm still going to wish for him so I can get the electroculi on top of Shogun's castle lmao
It's easy to reach there
@@ankitjha18TELL ME PLEASE
You can just use geo traveler, that's how I've done it. Impossible? Nah. Frustrating? Very much so.
@@SabakuSasori really I thought you needed wanderer or Kazuha to get up there
@@AjaniMorgan Nope. It's really annoying cause you need to experiment a lot to get the right side spot of the higher trimmings and railings, but it's doable. Think it took me like 20ish minutes.
STRAIGHT FORWARD misleading!
falling down problem with long animation isnt a thing for mobile users (including ipad/tablet) so if u have the nerves to fix the other issues then you can still go for wanderer as long as you like him as a character
On PC as well
He didn't even try to recover from falling. Check my separate comment that goes into detail on this if you want.
This is going to be the easiest banner to skip for me. Thank goodness because I went emotionally and primogem bankrupt trying to get Kazuha. Spoiler alert, I didn't get him.
Dang I got both alheitham and Kazuha without buying primos 😅
I spent $50 for kazuha and I got him 3 times in a row, 2 in the same pull no pity after getting the first one, all 3 were 50/50 wins
I didn’t get him either! Lost my 50/50 (thankfully to Tighnari).
Edit: I started the game during 3.8 and farmed to get 150 wishes…. About 30 wishes short to guarantee him since I lost my 50/50 🥲
Same here, the 50% chance is BS. He is my top 3 Fav, failure to get him reminded me that I'm just not a lucky person.
Love how most of the replies are talking about how they got lucky and got kazuha early like its not gonna make op feel worse lol
my lvl 80 scara does as well as my double crowned highly invested hu tao fym
Oh wow, of all genshin youtubers i didnt expect you to go on spewing Wanderer hate propaganda.
The examples you use aren't really relevant because the bosses you showed had whacky hitboxes. Like the wolflord spawning in (you can't auto target that boss in that phase). Sometimes you can't hit the boss while it's flying because the hitbox is so high (same thing goes to bow characters). The Ruin drake has a whacky hitbox when it's flying too. Also, you flying over enemies like you've shown was on you because you used zhongli's pillar for some odd reason to get so much height. I get that it should be possible to hit that, but it's not a hard issue to solve entirely. With those fungi and the samurai, those enemies aren't too strong overworld, you can get away without using his skill or letting the other characters do the job (if they can), and you also used the zhongli pillar once again. In the overworld, you can always set Scaramouche up by going further away so you can hit your enemies too, even if they are at a lower or higher elevation.
I never had problems with using Scaramouche because you can avoid these problems really easily. But at the end of the day it's night, and you can wish for whatever character you want. Make sure that's the character you really want.
I’ve had wanderer since his first banner. I use him all the time, he’s fun to play and easy to use. The fall issue is easy to get out of, just press the skill button again.
Honestly, if you want him, pull him. Most people pull for characters they like, not whatever is considered meta or game breaking at that moment in time. Pull for enjoyment, and don’t listen to people telling you otherwise.
Oooh, thanks for telling me , but I'll pull for him either way
The video is a huge misguide. I made a detailed comment correcting everything with timestamps.
I got c0 with c6 faruzan and he is just broken. Don't listin to this video. He's just nit picking too much. With widsith r2 and 2p, 2p atk mine do 25k ca and with faruzan it almost double. 70k with faruzan c6 with totm, bennett ult and thoma c6
its not even nitpicking its flat out lying
the misinformation is wild, this man getting paid to lie lmao
Shark has now been put on mihoyo's hit list
R.I.P thumbnail number eight you will not be forgotten
Bruh my Scara looks much better than that with C0 and widsith R2 I with yunjin, xinqiu and diona (since I don't have zhongli) or yunjin, benny and layla I can one phase scara boss without faruzan using that team and my xinqiu isn't even built that good
Eh im pulling scara because my dream is to get all anemo 5 stars
7:50 sounds like massive skill issues
Not just skill issues, this video is a huge misguide. I made a detailed comment correcting everything with timestamps.
I used to regret wanderer before but now his freeze team can clear now abyss i use wanderer venti layla and kokomi. Finally i can use him in abyss because now abyss is chill and easy. Venti solve most of his problem then freeze not so strong compare to my ayaka team but more fun this way than hypercarry.
So true. Freeze Wanderer is awesome. But he is very flexible and has many viable teams. This video is a huge misguide. I made a separate detailed comment correcting everything with timestamps. Check it out if you have time.
Obviously a skill issue. Never had problems with him even in the abyss. Over exaggerated video, disliked.
I fully agree. Not even exaggerated, this video is a huge misguide. I made a detailed comment correcting everything with timestamps. Check my comment if you have time.
Bro I think you just hate Wanderer or Scara in personal
idk but I was easily able to recover from the balloon hits in the event just by tapping dash once, not once did i fall down, only like staggered half a second
The video poster just sucks at using Wanderer and has no idea how his kit wotks
He’s been a character that I want so bad just based on story and design of him. This made me so sad hearing ur spicy take 😢
Pull for him, yeah he has all of this little problems, but not as much as the video says, here they are pretty exaggerated
Just pull for the characters you like. Don't listen to what the others say, if you really want him.
contratry to the ppl advice here I would prefer everyone to know the flaws and be warned. He is my worst carry and I have him on his signature and well invested DPC. His hitboxes are annoyngm he is getting oneshoted regulary
most importatnly if you play EN you will be very annoyed by constan noices he makes every 10 sec.
he looks cool and he works fine overworld. outside of that he is trash and almost no one main him
@@nose9333Yup agreed. If you really like a character, you should just pull it and enjoy. This game doesn’t need any 5 stars to enjoy, unless you want to do spiral abyss. Even then, many 4 star only teams and copious teams, can clear abyss with 36 stars relatively easily. However, shark’s concerns aren’t exaggerated. You should be aware of them if you want to pull wanderer and not be misled by how he plays in trials and trailers, and be aware that wanderer really won’t have much use in clearing abyss, if you care about that.
@@ixirion "and almost no one mains him"
1:55
A 50 cr Scaramouche isn't a hyperinventment unit tbh, like my Scara is at 70+ cr and 200+ cd, now if you can get your cr up by 60 or 70% while also keeping your cd dmg the same, then you should be fine.
3:10
Uhh the dmg wasn't even the same, your Scara team was doing a lot better than your hyperbloom team, if I'm looking at the timer correctly.
3:13
I do somewhat agree about Faruzan, like when she was at C5 my Scara felt kinda meh, but when I finally got her at C6 my Scara got a lot better imo.
5:54
And no one can target the Wolfload when he's coming out of his portal, I tested it with Al Haitham and Yelan and they barely want to hit him, and the targeting system isn't a Scara problem it's more of a Genshin problem tbh.
6:49
My guy I'm pretty sure you use Zhongli's piller to get to that height, since I went to that domain with him, and while he did ascend a little bit, but it wasn't to this ridiculous amount and he was still targeting the enemies properly.
7:40
Bruh, you can literally just press the dash or jump button to get out of that animation. 🫠
9:04
Uhh no? No you don't?
You don't have to play Scara with a shielder, even he's best team doesn't need a shielder, and Zhongli isn't his only good choice Layla, Thoma, Diona, and even Tankfei are literally right there!
And Layla and Thoma don't even have uptime issues with their shields. ಥ‿ಥ
10:29
But the Mirror Maiden's cage thing isn't hitting him tho?
And I'm pretty sure that you can just fly out of that.
10:39
You shouldn't be trusting a demo of the character, since that's like me believing that Raiden can zap enemies out of existence in-game, just because she did it in her demo or from the archon quest with Signora.
12:38
Bro, if you want to talk about Mihoyo scamming people with a character look at Dehya. XD
14:34
Yeaah no.
In a Gacha game that you have to either spend a ton of resources/time or spend a lot of money on, the characters should be the best at least they should be at around S or A tier, since we definitely don't need any more Dehya or Qiqi like characters.
help im pulling for him because he can flyyy
Yeah…this is a pretty disingenuous video from you, Shark. I’m disappointed. Yeah, his lack of interruption resistance is a problem, but a lot of these are problems of your own making, not anything built into his kit.
I fully agree. The video is a huge misguide. I made a detailed comment correcting everything with timestamps. Took me atleast an hour to type haha. Check my comment if you have time.
'So is it worth wishing for him? '
yes.. if you are planning to make your exploring easier...
and personally,,, i used him as my main in the abyss... and it was fun.
he's the easiest character i've used so far.
additionally in 2:01 you said the most invested character but your stat does not reflect your statement. I mean 53 crit rate is too low. no offense. but this example is already proving a bias. I believe some high ar players who have 36 abyss might have noticed other misconception in the rest of video too.
I would suggest you to increase the Crit rate to 80 to get more consistent crit damage.
hopefully you take it as a positive feedback so we can see more positive and objective videos in the future
Your video is so misleading my wanderer team are actually do more damage than hyperbloom team with good investment 89/186 cv and absolutely worth the Bennett , you makeing up alot of your problems with him
My AR45 Wanderer with venti, benny, and zhongli helped me defeat that pyro abyss lector on 12-1. I don't have hydros because my account is freaking dry, unfortunately.
I am f2p, but I invested quite a lot on him, but not that much since it's easy to get good artifacts on desert pavillion and FoPL domain. He carried me through the spiral abyss pretty well.
There are obvious issues that need to be pointed out, just like shark said in this video. The visual mismatch of elevation and hitbox is terrible. Being trapped by ground restrictions while on windfavored state is unfortunate. Did you know that you could be hit by dendro spikes while on air, and if you landed on dendro spikes, you could get stuck there and get DMG continuously. I hope they release a one piece set circlet that just increases the resistance to interruption.
He is my only character that deal 11k per hit, up to 20k-35k at just LV80. I'm not yet regretting it as much as I regretted xiao. But as long as the issues are not resolved, I'll probably just tank it with zhongli for the meantime, and respond to the feedback with complaints on fixing wanderer.
The video is a huge misguide. I made a detailed comment correcting everything with timestamps.
You can cancel the falling animation by jumping or dashing
True. The video is a huge misguide. I made a detailed comment correcting everything with timestamps. Check it out if you have time.
I prefarmed and have pretty decent artifacts (can use a better atk sands and feather) for him and after watching this I’m like..hmm..this is the most convincing consideration video I’ve seen. Usually I just bypass when content creators say things to considered but this video..is extremely convincing..I still want him but man you did a good job.
The video is a huge misguide. People tend to believe controversial statements easily. I made a detailed comment correcting everything with timestamps. You should atleast check that before making a decision.
@@bhavya.prashant I was gonna pull for him regardless. What he said wasn’t gonna stop me from pulling but he did say things that I did take into consideration and are seeing after playing wanderer myself. Regardless I fully enjoy wanderer’s gameplay and I already made the decision to pull for him on his 1st rerun after playing his trail on his 1st run. But not having him there were things I wouldn’t have known and seeing this video made me consider a lot. I don’t have any shielders built or have Zhongli so I’ve made myself pretty decent at dodging but the getting knocked down is pretty annoying. Other than that he’s super fun and I don’t regret pulling for him. Thank you though.
8:05 hahaha skill issue, _git GÜD scrub!!_ 🤗
Yeah, I've got Wanderer & that interruption madness drives me batty... Still don't regret pulling fur him OR getting C6 Faruzan on the way but... * Cries * the cost...
Lol, about his a4. Did you just not read the whole thing? It will increase 12% each time he hits the opponents. Eventually, it will trigger the effect at 8th hit for sure in the worst case. It's not like you'll never get it at all.
Has flaws but still the most fun gameplay for me
True. He has some flaws but not remotely as many as the video mentions. This video is a huge misguide. I made a detailed comment correcting everything with timestamps. Check it out if you have time.
Well, there's the "I will make up my expectations and I will complain if they're not met" approach, and then there's the "I will find out how he works and how to make the best out of him" approach. I think you could make similar video about pretty much any character, including Nahida.
Personally I really like Wanderer for exploration, his floating is unmatched by any other character. I use him every day in my farming runs which is more use than most characters on my account get. I don't regularly use him in combat but I did use him in some domains and it was more about his combat style not suiting me much than about any of the problems you mention why I don't use him for that purpose anymore. I have no regrets, his exploration value alone is worth the primogems I invested into pulling for him. And who knows, if I get C6 Faruzan eventually, or if there's good incentive to use Anemo DPS, I might try to send him fighting once again.
So true. I fully agree with you. The video is a huge misguide. I made a detailed comment correcting everything with timestamps. It took me around an hour to think and type haha. Please check it out if you have time.
I've never experienced that aim issue once ever since I got the wanderer from his first banner but if that's really been happening fr you I'm guessing it's the same for arrow users since they also have auto aim
True, I made a detailed comment on the topic.
at the end of the day just pull who you feel is fun. i’m pulling for him because i loved him since the start, but it’s also a breath of fresh air (different play-style). arguably you can say this for a lot of on field DPS characters needing to dodge (i main alhaitham, so i know what dodging is like lol). Yes, meta, i get it, but with so many meta excuses lately, its almost like a lot are being swayed to it, instead of just being like “i like this play-style, hes fun, no i’m not doing the biggest numbers but he is still good to play”
I agree with you. But the video is a huge misguide. I made a detailed comment correcting everything with timestamps. Check it out if you have time.
Scara was my first limited 5 star after I lost my 50 50 to diluc. I have to say that this is a really misguided video, he does not need to be hyper invested into. As long as he as atk over 1800 and cd around 200, he is still cracked. If you think he needs specific team to be played with, it's a skill issue for you. I honestly think wanderer's kit was designed in a rather well way. Anemo character which is already a big advantage, catalyst for far range as well as aoe with charged attack and floating in general. If you think playing wanderer is difficult, you clearly have no experience with playing catalyst character s. As someone who uses Ningguang very often and has seen many Yanfei mains, I can say it's a fact that wanderer is THE BEST catalyst main dps. The fact that his attacks don't cost stamina when floating really amazes me. This simple feature makes him a win for me and his damage comes on par with my Ayaka's who is just as well invested and I don't even use Faruzan. Skill Issue.
He basically has infinite stamina
@@AnimeLord512 which is revolutionary in a catalyst character, hate to say this but many of the catalyst dps characters suffer from stamina issues, honorable mentions to Klee.
Idk pulled him at release and he's always been good in my experience. I use him w/layla, xingqiu, flex, flex (bennett, fischl, faruzan, xiangling, rosaria).Maybe he is carried by off field supports but that's a fine way to play him imo bc he's anemo and that's kinda your bread and butter. Also so good in open world. Never had any regrets for him.
If you have yelan, I’d try her in the flex spot. With her damage buff, xq’s hydro shred, and laylas low er burst, I’ve found that it makes for a great permafreeze team imo
@@ODS996 No, don't have her. Sounds good though. Xingqiu is so good with him (probably yelan too), they have so much range together it's awesome.
I know right? This video is a huge misguide. I made a detailed comment correcting everything with timestamps. Check it out if you have time.
Good video, it is true in the trailers it can be misleading. Some points that i would like to address though:
1) don't fly so high to attack, the higher you go up the less time you are in the air. Go high enough to attack as much as you can. The more you attack, the faster the enemy dies.
2) my Wanderer has some Def so not to get hurt so easily. So if you have good artifacts with sub-stats of Def, don't throw them away.
3) I haven't really invested in any shielder (because it is not my playstyle) and but i have good healers. So you can pair him with 2 healers for security. I play him with Xiangling and Bennett ( for fervent flames atk & for the pyro atk bonus), & then either with Kuki/Jean/Xingqiu for extra heal & reaction.
I was previously a Xiao main, so i like having an Anemo DPS... He might not be for everybody and it is important to play whatever character sparks you joy 😊. In general I have really enjoyed him since his release, & he is really good for exploration ( my only problem is that he doesn't fly for a longer time).
I agree with you. But this video is a huge misguide. I made a detailed comment correcting everything with timestamps. Took me almost an hour to type all this haha. Check it out if you have time.