South Carolina wins Title, Caitlin Clark GOAT, Cal leaves UK & UCONN vs. Purdue | FIRST THINGS FIRST
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- Nick Wright, Chris Broussard and Kevin Wildes discuss the latest news in sports including South Carolina Lady Gamecocks defeating the Iowa Hawkeyes in the NCAA Women’s Basketball National Championship, Caitlin Clark’s GOAT claim, John Calipari leaving Kentucky for Arkansas and the NCAA Men’s Basketball National Championship Game between UCONN & Purdue.
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why would i
@@andrescarreong2112 Bruhhh, I was literally gonna say this lol. Skip and that show is so washed
No
I love Skip and he is a GREAT in this industry, though his alure has lost its luster. The Shannon Sharpe situation definitely painted Skip in a negative light. Clearly without Skip, Shannon would not have even had that opportunity to shine, but public opinion is what it is. Skip Bayless is a legend and should be respected. No one stays on top forever, Skip had a historic run in Sports Talk/journalism media, sadly though his time is nigh. I still support the homie but tough to see him have to be propped up by another show.
I wish 1 show would actually talk about 1 or 2 SC players in depth. Even get them on the show. A lot of different personalities on this team and different stories.
Old man Brou “Seen one eclipse… you kinda seen em all” 😂😂😂
I mean he ain’t lying 😂
Nahh for real
just seen it few hours ago it was amazing tho
He sent me to the floor. His elder statesman demeanor is too hilarious 😂
@@j317 it was so awesome 😎 I was in AWE
Caitlin Clark had a rough 3 quarters, SC defended her brilliantly. But Iowa's bench didn't score and SC had like 37. Army of one doesn't beat the better team
All anybody cares about watching was the Army of One. Watch what happens to the tournament ratings next year.
Word.
Im confused by this comment... @GeordieHalma You agree with the OP but finish it off by stating something that has nothing to do with the conversation?
@@GeordieHalmaNo a lot of people were paying attention to South Carolina too, S.C.'s a substantial team.
clark is like bird was at indiana state... except without all the talent.
Nick is underrating Breanna Stewart though. I know the team was awesome. But she was still a 6’5 player with a 7’1 arm span who was awesome on both sides of the ball, and panned out 100% in the league. She’s now the best player in the WNBA too
The point was about the difficulty in separating team context
4 national titles and 3 player of the years, shouldn’t even be a conversation.
@@TheElsMan yeah I get that. I just think he wasn’t giving her enough credit. Almost implying that she was just a solid player on an amazing team. I think she was an amazing player, also on an amazing team. And that bared out to be true according to her becoming a superstar in the WNBA immediately as well
Asia Wilson might have something to say about that
Stewie lost 5 games in her entire collegiate career and four-peated.
Best show on sports right now hands down
Absolutely
First take mid
Undisputed ded
Nah Nick is an idiot, you’re glazing
When Nick isn’t talking about LBJ or Patrick Mahomes…..
Totally agree first take is nothing but yelling from Stephen A Smith, and undisputed died when Shannon left
That person who suggested Dawn Staley coach the Hornets has to hate that woman lol. I would not wish that on anyone.
😂
South Carolina - undefeated season and a Championship. GOOD JOB SOUTH CAROLINA! I wish everyone would stop ignoring this fact!
1. No one would be talking about Clark if it was not for the media’s hype job, due to all the hate that was brought on by last years LSUs game. JuJu had some amazing accomplishments as a rookie on USC, but who cares right ? Let give more attention to the the hype job who plays no defense like Lebron.
2. Things that have happened 2 x more than an undefeated womens basketball team for the past 41 years: Earthquakes in the east coast.
Don't get me started. South Carolina is undefeated and wins National Championship and not one of the star players is captioned in the news media. Only Clark's postgame interview. SMH. Yes, she's good, but so are so many other players, even her fellow teammates. No fouls called on Iowa until late in the 4th quarter and they still lose, yet folks still calling her a GOAT. Sorry, but she didn't win a National Championship, so NO GOAT!!!
@@seanmiller2642 BS, we all know why there is so much hype around Clark. It's nothing new.
@@freepro i didn't know that as the only time i heard about womans basketball before clark was when there was an undefeated team in the championship. It felt like more often.
@seanmillerye because she's ?she played no better than the rest 2642
Hannah Stuelke get no respect or credit
She’s got two more years at Iowa, I’m sure she grow and be even better!!
Fr idk what Nick saw, she had a great tournament
I saw her bobble 6 different passes on fast breaks. It was absolutely brutal.
Martin is wayyyy better than stulke
@@chocolaterain5097 she was carrying a huge load playing heavy minutes out of position (she’s a natural 4)
I'd love to see Dawn Staley be her generations' Pat Summitt.
THATS WHY THERE PUSHING HER TO GO 😉
She will pass Pat by 2031
We don’t her at Kentucky though!!
😊@@janicebradley9406
@@BranDawg81 you don't want her in Kentucky?? Is that what you're saying? Well, stay happy losing, then.
SC starting 10 was unstoppable!👀
Exactly
Barely talked about the team that was 38-0 lol but whatever thats expected
Yep typical
the topic is Caitlyn clark. why would they talk about SC? LOL can you read?
“Ain’t no body came to see you Otis”
They were expected to win. Nothing to talk about.
Remember when many college teams and players were doing GREAT things last year...yet the media ONLY talked about Deion and the Colorado Bust-A-Loes? A team who won nothing. And people like you told the complainers, "People are watching college ball cuz of Deion" ?? Remember THAT ??? Well...people watched female ball because of Caitlin Clark, so yeah, she will be talked about more and more moving forwward. She did ten times mroe to warrant the hype and media coverage than Deion and his squad of losers. So keep that same energy.
Love the Nolan Richardson and Corliss Williamson shout out. Good old days.
Nolan had a forehead like a professional wrestler!
South Carolina had 5 new starters. We’re not trying to hear the excuses.
And all were 4-5 star recruits,
And a woman who’s Lebrons size at center.
And all 5 will be drafted in the WNBA once again. It’s not an excuse, it’s just pointing out the obvious that SC is the most talented team in women’s basketball
Name one player other Caitlin Clark is going to WNBA? I bet you maybe one will go, and Iowa will be then irrelevant
@@lovehate8286stop it. She 6’7, plays like she 6’3 with slow feet and no jumper
Alot of them was All-America coming from different programs. If this was before the NIL. Then that would have been impressive. But, when you can basically draft player to your school now. Wasn't that impressed. It Good job.
I think people leave Maya Moore out of these conversations way too much when talking about the GOAT women’s college basketball players.
Amen 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿there’s hasn’t been a female player that has Maya’s athleticism !!! There are plenty was ball skills but when you combine the two … nobody like Maya that I’ve seen and I’m going back to the Women of Troy & the Lady Techsters 😅😀
Basically she's the Allen Iverson of women's college basketball
John Calipari is the Doc Rivers of college basketball. All that talent, 35 first round picks and only 1 title? Only 4 final fours? He's a great recruiter. Not a great coach.
Naw at this point he realizes his most important job is towards his players. He wants them to be successful in life beyond just a championship in college. That only helps him not his players
I agree that it's disappointing record. But usually, a lot of first round picks mean you have no experienced player because a lot of one and done. It's not always a great recipe for success
Naw the the thing about DOC is when the players leave they still don't win anything, so you can't blame DOC
I love coach cal but this is facts
Mya Moore is the Goat no debate!!!
You can’t be the goat without a championship……… period
Jj redick was the best college bball player without one
@@donttrendonme best college player when? he was never considered the goat.
Good loorrdd Nick🤦🏾♂️. No, just no. You can’t change the rules of the G.O.A.T. requirements.
This CC aspect of being the GOAT reminds me of the Steph like impact. Greatest shooters but not GOAT'd for the all around game
But he is in the goat convo tho .. yall can't try and put a dude who was 3-6 in the finals in the goat convo but somehow a dude who is 4-2 in the finals and 3-1 vs the same dude who is 3-6 In the finals is not in it and he actually the greatest at something in basketball bs the other dude isn't. That logic is nonsensical but Yall be walking hypocrites who move the goal post 🤣🤦🏾♂️
@@CedtheActor Ok, I get you feel some type of way but I never brought up LeBron😅. But before I reply/continue, just so we know what criteria are we basing this GOAT'D convo on.? How you framed your statement leads me to believe you think it's about Chips.?
@@CedtheActor Wasn't the best player for half the rings. KD was, so don't try to finesse that out the convo 😂
@That85Scorpio you dont get a feel anything so miss me with that 1st..2nd dont delete my reply and last and more importantly yes. Winning matters more than stats and impact when it comes to a goat. This is not an participation award when dealing with a goat because if you're impact on the game is like you will win so the formula is winning+impact+stats not impact+stats but don't have to win
Smh goats have rings. She is just America's darling.
Back to back championship appearances for Iowa is crazy impressive. You can’t just say “well she didn’t win the big one” she defeated multiple stacked teams throughout the tournament in 2 separate seasons.
She has some good teammates also they can really shoot especially Martin! Don’t make it seem like she didn’t have any help.
Ye almost doesn't count.😂
@@brother-dre they were the under dogs in both championship games. You literally can’t make that argument
@@19934 Iowa did have some good players around her but I can promise you that in a year from now Iowa will be no where close to a 1 seed.
Nope nope nope! Stop moving the goal post. She lost the championship game twice. She's not even in the discussion.
Nick no “Eye Test” Jordan verse Lebron. Catlin “THE EYE TEST” 😂😂
"OH Come On! . . .She(Clark) hasn't even started Her WNBA Career! Let's see what She does there . . . then we'll talk G O A T ."
Well weren't they talking college goat?
They we’re talking college
Maya Moore
Sheryl Swoopes
Cynthia Cooper
Sabrini Inoescue
Brianna Stewart
Dianna Taurasi
Sue Bird
Pearl Moore
Lynette Woodward
Brittany Griner
We’ve seen this before. Recency bias at its finest.
Candace Parker
How many of them hold 46 records after their final season?
@@kylechiefs and what did that amount to = 0 titles. Championship games and series is where you see the real greatness shine. Caitlin Clark is the best scorer in women’s college history but nothing more than that
Lisa Leslie is top 3, I would put her after Moore.
Goats 🐐 don’t need excuses
Dawn Staley was a great player and is a great coach. To go from a head coach of the women's team at South Carolina to head coach of a blue blood men's program at this point is a gigantic stretch. Further, if it doesn't go well, how does one fire her? There will be accusations of some kind of ism...
My man Wyldes was spot on about the UConn Purdue game.
Aaron Rodgers is the second most talented QB I've ever seen (behind Mahomes). He belongs no where in the GOAT conversation unless he wins another 1 or even 2 rings.
just throwing the ball? he’s a batter arm talent than Mahomes
@@cheerioss-9121 I'm a Packer's fan so I got to see his insane throws week in and week out, so I won't argue with you haha but most of the nation might disagree. Just flicks the wrist off his back foot and drops a perfect back shoulder dime to Jordy or Devonte, all his side arms whips and hail mary's. Dude had the ENTIRE BAG.
He’s in an established sport. This is the first time this has been discussed in media
Just remember....those of us that are old enough...when the WNBA started in 94 or 96 the announcers said coops the "MJ23" of women's basketball.
You can't be the GOAT of your sport without rings.
That's what i always thought and cc the truth,great,but no rings
Coach Dawn Staley stay in South Carolina!!!!
They say CC will be a top 10 player rookie year??!! That’s because NONE of them can name 10 WNBA players!
I can only name one wanna player and I'm not sure she is still in the league and that would be Sue bird. I only know her from uconn
they said caitlin will come an dominate in wnba right away. I dont know if these guys watch enough of the wnba to make that statement
With the caitlin clark and dawn staley talk i hope they talk SOME wnba this year. I hope dawn staley stays in south carolina though, create an absolute dynasty and become the goat coach
I think Breanna Stewart is the best all around women’s player I’ve ever seen.. But to say that CC can’t be in the conversation is ludicrous
You’re right
How you gonna be in the goat conversation when you haven’t won a championship. That’s ludicrous to me!!!
@@ChuckAngelHawkRobert horry has more rings than Jordan. Guess he’s superior since he won more
Name one person who is in the conversation of being the GOAT in any sport that has 0 championships? CC would be the 1st in history to be CONSIDERED that never won a championship.
NO RING
Nick Wright is the best!
Just For Men doesn't get this much coverage in a magazine.
Everybody was woefully ignorant on women's basketball until Caitlin came along. The entirety of women's competitive sports rests on her shoulders and she stood tall. There's more to be said for her captivating sports fans across the board.
It’s a setup.
She can be the most popular but doesn’t mean she’s the GOAT
Clark is a great player. But she has to be more versatile. She has to get better at attacking the basket, defense needs a lot of work, she has to learn how to score going to her right.
The best show on TV right now
The real problem is there is a difference between being the GOAT as a player having the best Career
Ring culture in team sports is just lame all around. Great individual players get penalized for not being on better teams.
@@skillethead15but context matters first of all cc is in a weak division and how is that goatish when she just jacking up shot get locked up by one player and give up on defense how could she be the goat and if she went to the powerhouse she wouldn’t could play like that because then she need to stop jacking up massiv shot 10-28 isn’t goatish getting the ball stolen by the same player 4 times just scoring 4 points when guarded by that player from the field isn’t goatish I’m sorry
@@levonverrett6052 of course context matters and I’m not even necessarily saying Clark is the GOAT. But ring culture is just lame in all sports. That’s all they ever talk about with athletes. MVP and the championship. Especially with the NBA. And then they wonder why players don’t care about the regular season as much. Wilt Chamberlain was considered the GOAT a long time even though he played in the Bill Russell era because people recognized his individual greatness and not just recognizing the best player on the best team in Bill. We never seem to do that today.
Jayson Tatum can’t be considered a great player until he wings a ring despite how great his numbers are. But yet somehow Luka who hasn’t even been to the Finals is great.
Shout out CC and Angel Reese for making this opening segment possible. This is wonderful to hear them discuss women’s hoops… both players and coaches 😭😭😭😭
The hype machine is real. South Carolina held Clark to 12 points in the final 3 qtrs after starting with 18 pts in the first . Give them their credit! Catlin Clark is a prolific shooter and broke a bunch of records but went 0-2 in consecutive trips to the chip. That makes her the Billy Goat... We'll see who's better than her when the wnba season starts.. Also, she has to win at the Pro level to garner the respect of her peers and dominate in the league to insight more people to watch and attend the games. That's how players become the GOAT. She's a six foot jump shooter with a target on her back. We just saw how she struggled with an athletic player her size guarding her.
Her being in the chip at all dragging an average team up to play with perennial super teams is all I needed to see.
@wardy4903 lmao she had a team that made it to championship twice 😂 that's called a team.
@@janicebradley9406no it’s not. It’s Lebron carrying the cavs to finals his first few years
@@ryanbaumgart9837They carried her after raven locked her down from the 2nd quarter til the end of the game. They were within 5 points with 4 mins left. How you think that happen? THE TEAM!! Cause it shole wasn’t the bricklayer.
@@ryanbaumgart9837 y'all are underrating the rest of those girls at Iowa. They played great defense and hit timely shots when it mattered. Clark was mid after the first quarter, the rest of the team helped keep it close into the 4th
My only issue with combining South Carolina winning and Caitlin Clark's greatness in the same discussion is that I personally DON'T believe that if Iowa has won, the media would be saying, "Caitlin Clark's brings Iowa its first Chip, but was this South Carolina team one of the best March Madness squads?" I think they would basically ignore SC if they loss and I'm all about keeping the same energy.
So what about Brittany Griner?
Like she took a team of unknowns to 2 chips, and yes we know Kim Mulkey coached to another natty now, but we didn’t know that when her team was playing. What’s the difference?
Listen to Nick talking about someone Hating
- South Carolina deserves more media coverage
- Caitlin is top 5 of college basketball WOMEN
- Cal leaving UK is the best news they’ve heard all year
- UConn is winning it all
Nobody cares about the Avengers . That's how it is.
It's a boy leroy
- no they don’t. Dynasties make the sport unwatchable.
- Clark is the only girl you’ve seen play more than 3 games
Raven Johnson shut CC down when she was on her.
Nobody wanted to talk about the winners. Now everyone wants to hop on Dawn Staley’s bandwagon when the only support she received was from South Carolina and her hometown, Philly.
Dianna Taurasi was cold af .....BUT she was NOT better than Maya Moore Wtf...
Iowa had no chance. It’s a team sport that no one on the team play like they wanted it. No rebounds, no scores, no defends. It’s so awful to watch. Clark play good but it’s NOT enough. SC was awesome-they were a complete team. HC Dawn praised Clark changed women college basketball was a gracious moment!
MJ- You need more rings
The GOAT WCBB player is 0-2 in championship games and scored 18 points in the first quarter then got locked up the last 3 quarters when Raven Johnson became her primary defender to the point where she scored only 12 points on 25% shooting?
She can be "in the conversation", but she'll never be the GOAT 🤷♂️
You can't hold a college athlete to the same standard as professional. Rings as a pro matter because your all pros. In college where you go determines the level of talent around you. Every player on that SC team is getting drafted. CC is the only player getting drafted from Iowa. That Iowa squad wouldn't of made either sweet 16 without her much less the final 4.
Certain people just can’t give Staley her credit for how great of a coach she is. More excuses for their Clark though.
*recruiter
Nick u can't move the goal post to please one person
Why are we talking about Caltin more, who lost, rather than South Carolina, who won, going undefeated
You know why. She a White girl that's got game. But UConn proved how to Play Carlin Clark,D her up. Make her pass the ball which she is good at, and drive to the hoop. How I believe in the WNBA She might have it a little tough. But that's ok. Let's see what she's made of. Eyes will be watching the New class of Rookies
It's ridiculous. SC had a great year and never got the props they deserved. They were the much better team and shut Iowa down. Caitlin is talented, but she's no GOAT. The media pumped her up too much and she hadn't won anything. They love the "golden children".
Probably also the same reason why Deion and Colorado were over-hyped..... I heard a bunch of causals making statements like "Deion is the only reason College Football is being watched".... lol.
Point is, win or lose, if you're interesting, you'll get talked about. If you're not, you won't. That's just how it works. Colorado Football got more coverage this season than Michigan Football, even though the only interesting thing about them was Deion. They weren't a good team, and Deion isn't a good coach, but cats in the media (and comments) were making Deion out to be the 2nd Coming of Nick Saban.... it is what it is.
She's going to struggle because the season starts so quick and doesn't get a break at all. It seems all wmba rookies have trouble at first but we will see. She will maybe take enough shots to have good numbers but we need to look at defense and shot percentage.
I really hope one day sports media moves past constantly talking about the GOAT of a sport/league. It along with gambling has caused so much toxicity in sports communities. I know that's probably an unpopular opinion and that I'm posting this on the YT channel of a debate channel lol, but it's been something I've been thinking about a lot lately
Swoopes had 47 in the 93 title and TTT needed every single one of them.
We are far too quick to call people the best ever at almost everything these days
this debate is PERFECTLY emblematic of the fact that greatest and best are not synonyms
Diana Turasi is the best I've ever seen.
Why Would She Leave SC 🤣 Sounds Crazy
Not thinking Caitlin is the best is not hating. Caitlin is in a weak division scores over smaller players and Diana is calling your, but Caitlin is still good, but she’s not superhuman and that was exposed.
why? nobody really cares about their win. They had a bench better than most teams.They lose their best payers and still go undefeated.
@@SlotCarCastI followed them this year and thought the season was amazing. You sound like a casual fan who only watches for Lebron James
"Exposed" is a strong word for carrying a team like Iowa that deep
@@CJStew06 not it isn’t, very simple definition “ make something visible by uncovering it”. Caitlin didn’t carry her team, Iowa is a good team with a good coach. I’m a UConn fan defending the team that beat us. Guess what …Caitlin didn’t win that game, the others did.
You guys are disloyal and it’s tragic. Will never have a winning culture, and I’m done with the convo.
I have to disagree. If Iowa had gotten 37 points from it's bench players, they would have won. Instead they got 0 points off the bench. I think Dawn Staley might be the best coach in America -- but I think even she would agree that she has 5-10 future WNBA players on her roster...and Iowa has just Clark. What it reminds me of, is when young LeBron James "dragged" a Cleveland Cavaliers team that is generally thought to be the "worst" team to ever make the NBA finals, to the NBA championship round. That was "superhuman" on LeBron's part -- and I think most would agree, ditto for Caitlin Clark. That takes nothing away from South Carolina, who had the better team -- and deserved to win.
Dawn he is such a strong personality. I think that her and LaMelo’s dynamic could be fun.
She's ringless!
She can't be the GOAT!!!
P.S: So we talk first and more about someone who's lost than the winners? We all know why 🙄...
Lmao, she made history by being the only ringless goat.
Because she’s the reason the women’s league is getting so much attention in the first place…should be common sense
Rings don’t matter
💯
@@YungLanxx Because we all know why she got the attention in the first place. It's a long-standing story that will never change.
CC will struggle in relation to what she's done at Iowa, but overall, she's still going to put up good numbers and have a solid season, especially with Aliyah Boston there to take all of her passes
Pause wym “like I do the men”
These men are professionals. I'm not mature enough not too laugh out loud.
Crazy 😂😂. Gotta say pause even on live tv
You could tell he knew he said it but just had to keep going
reachin on this one. wasnt that sus
First take never disappoints
How do you judge a GOAT on college only? Chick hasn’t even been pro yet. None of these current GOATs are considered that for their college play.
The Goat of college. Thats why.
GOAT of college obviously…
LeBron James was considered to be the next goat when he left college and the conversation was happening about him versus Michael Jordan. Caitlin clark has definitely entered the go debate and once we see what she does in the WNBA is only going to solidify the debate even more.
@@YungLanxx they’re not debating goat of college. Lebron, MJ and Brady all are considered goats because of their play at pro level and that’s who they used to compare.
@@LILDroidDEX Bron never went to college.
LUSIA HARRIS is the GREATEST and PIONEER FEMALE NCAA basketball player! She was drafted to the NBA…. Played at Delta State university in Cleveland MS. She’s from Greenwood MS
Nick bending and twisting statistics to support his arguments once again. Here's some context: with Breanna Stewart, UCONN won 4 straight championships, without her, they haven not won in the 8 years since.
I think Dawn Staley can relate to Caitlin Clark because she never got a Natty herself. Dawn is one of the greatest herself as a player and now a legacy Coach. Caitlin is just starting her Legacy.
“Like I do men” - Brou
.. no diddy
Clark did what no other basketball player (womens) present or past could have done with the teammates she had, back to back final appearance. Clark lost LSU last yr, but them this yr. Clark lost to SC this yr but beat them last yr.
Nick stop this. She could barely get by Raven without screens. She's great but definitely not the GOAT
Bro what? That’s like saying curry can barely get by great defenders like Giannis without screens so he sucks? Lmao
@jamfd3s788 You clearly don't get it. I wouldn't call Curry the GOAT or best ball handler if he couldn't get by his defender 1v1. Who said she sucks? This is about the GOAT convo. No one defender could lock up Taurasi, Moore or Stewie
@@Ben2bwild you clearly don’t get it lol, never called Clark or curry the goat but making an argument that Clark can’t be the goat because she uses screens is brain dead behavior lmao
@jamfd3s788 of course everyone uses screens lmao. You're making a moot point. The point is she has glaring weaknesses in her game and she's not better than the players I mentioned. You're using my point about screens in a vacuum to make your own point. Caitlin looked like a scared chicken whenever Raven was on her. How can you call such person the GOAT? 😂😂
@@Ben2bwild 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Every once in a while, Nick has me grabbing my dictionary 😂
College rings don’t really matter. It’s all about Professional Championships + stats/awards etc. to be the GOAT.
They’re literally only talking about college career goat 😂😂😂
@@hammyhun9356 no one cares about college. Do we ever talk about Christian Laettner?? Who is arguably the college GOAT 😂😂 Exactly
1000 percent agree
Clark is not the goat, she came up lame twice in the big games. She got locked down by the same girl she disregarded last year, she throws tantrums when she doesn't get every call, she doesn't play defense, and if refs doesn't bail her out then she's average. Im just amazed how people still put her on the pedestal when SC went 38-0 and had the perfect game plan.
Clark been playing hero ball all year long and people raved how great she is, but when she gets locked down by Raven then all of a sudden people want to blame her lack of supporting cast.
Didn’t she score 30 points in the championship game 🤣. She was a top player playing with average players against teams with entire rosters of top players. SC is better and deserved to win 100% but CC really could not have done anything differently
Clark is not a goat. She played in two championship games and didn’t win neither. She’s a great player and that’s it. South Carolina beat breaks off of Iowa. Hats off to Dawn Staley outstanding coaching. Raven shut Clark down , then the freshman Tess Johnson killed them. SC out scored Iowa in rebounding, deep bench points and second chance points. Kamilla is the best center in women’s basketball she’s a SAVAGE. SC only had 3 loss in 3 seasons under Dawn’s coaching that’s PHENOMENAL.
Nick is Skip son with his ridiculous takes 😂
Kevin Wildes on the 💵 for his Natl’ title prediction. He was almost exact with how UConn would beat Perdue. 🐐
Come on come on the team went 38-0 and none of them players getting any type of air time they talking about a person who didn't win anything smt this what sports shows about always pushing a narrative what don't make sense
because none of them are her talent. the topic is HER. lol
Remember when many college teams and players were doing GREAT things last year...yet the media ONLY talked about Deion and the Colorado Bust-A-Loes? A team who won nothing. And people like you told the complainers, "People are watching college ball cuz of Deion" ?? Remember THAT ??? Well...people watched female ball because of Caitlin Clark, so yeah, she will be talked about more and more moving forwward. She did ten times mroe to warrant the hype and media coverage than Deion and his squad of losers. So keep that same energy.
Why would you talk about 9-10 starters beating 1 player and girls that could barely keep up?
@@blackmanwithcomputerno talk about the ONE PLAYER THAT SHUT HER DOWN
You're lucky they are starting their show with women's basketball. The sport is only relevant because of Clark. I wanna see how much they cover it next year lol.
@FTF I think it would have been more respectful to have that Clark conversation another day. To mention Staley for just a few minutes almost as an afterthought didn't seem right to me.
nick just stop !! the refs help push her pass uconn & were attempting to vs s.c. . great player but NOT the goat & its ok.. ppl gotta stop saying everything is hate. SWOOPES was the deal btw !!
It's crazy to me that people complain that players/teams are taking too many threes nowadays and it's killing the game, but go absolutely nuts for Clark when her best (maybe only?) skill is chucking up threes.
Nick was bugging on the female coach thing. A men’s D3 bball player would be the greatest woman ball player ever
Maybe an all star but greatest is a stretch. Tons of women are better than men @ ball. Mainly DT,
@@dreday1969 you take a 6’5 wing from a d3 team and drop him in the wnba and it’s gonna get ugly. He’d be the size of a big center while being the strongest, fastest highest jumping person out there by a wide margin
College is different than the pros, Clark had to compete against big schools with an extreme recruiting advantage
Can Clark ECLIPSE Stewart without a national title?
I get it!
Offense works better with a low post. There are so many combinations that come off of the low post. On the other hand we can watch pick and rolls(NBA) until we die of boredam.
She will definitely struggle at the next level
I think she will be ok. Because she will have much better help. Boston of LSU came in and did pretty good for the Fever and was named rookie of the year. Clark and Boston will be teammates so things will be interesting.
She needs to work on her defense
So if Catlin Clark would have hit the portal and went to South Carolina and won a national championship she would then be a GOAT?
Really, y'all? Caitlin is not the lead story today. Her team lost. The NCAA D1 women's basketball tournament champions, the South Carolina Gamecocks, should be the lead. This is very lame of you all.
They averaged 7 mil views vs NC State. Relax. The story is and will always be CC. The viewers werent there so much for S Carolina.
Thank You.
Dawn is fine at South Carolina, she doesn’t need any of that NBA rubbish! Let her continue to impact the lives of young women !
Facts like geno and pat
A ringless goat, man how that bar has been lowered.
I agree with Bru on the eclipse! I didn't think it was a big deal. I've seen many.
This is delusional talk
Love hearing a pundit saying he doesn’t know enough history to have a solid take. Good job Nick!!
It's ridiculous to measure someone's greatness as a player on whether or not the team won a championship. So Barry Sanders isn't arguably the greatest RB ever?
I literally just posted this an hour ago. Same people who oftne cite Randy Moss as the GOAT WR....and Barry Bonds as the GOAT baseball player. The hypocrisy is nauseating on these people.
Really hard to compare basketball and football because 1 great player can carry a team a lot further in basketball than football for the simple fact that Bart barry sander can block for himself or throw to himself or go play defense as well as opposed to a Lebron or Jordan or Kareem who’s play has a higher impact on the overall team success
@@petep5207 based on that, Trent Dilfer is a bigger GOAT than Dan Marino and Jim Kelly. Because he rode the defense to a ring.
@@kaythedon2 that's fair, but in the end, it's still the team as a whole. If your teammates slack on defense or miss open shots and you lose, why should that be a mark against your greatness as a singular player? If she was the all-time leading scorer and set every record but played in some weak conference and lost in the round of 32, then sure. But when you accomplish what she has done and take your team to back to back title games, that shouldn't count against you.
@petep5207 .. hmm.. Last week championships mattered to any GOAT conversation lol.. but I think if you’re saying best at a position.. championships might not be a part of it - especially with the difference in skill sets on a football team or pitchers in baseball.. but best PLAYER in the whole sport (especially basketball).. Chips should definitely matter..
To be fair, I think CC has to be in the *discussion*.. she carried that team.. but hard to say clear cut, stand alone, greatest ever..
(Plus, I can’t remember the last time someone said Bonds was the GOAT lol.. he might’ve been the best anyone has seen.. but no one says GOAT)..
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