Grate educational video if you never done this particular job, no nonsense talking just the information straight to the point (BRAVO!) , now I know what to expect and to prepare properly
Not all engine that need a timing chain are new and are on a bench. Do it in the vehicle and on one that has done 100,000 miles and then see if its simple.
I like this solution better than my Peugeot 1.5 DV5 BlueHDI which uses both a belt and timing chain. Apparently the chain tensioner on the Peugeot engine is prone to failure so I wish they would have used a geared drive like on this Renault engine. The chain driven oil pump is not so nice though.
I changed the timing chain on my 1.6 dci on Megane 2014 at 150k km because it was rattling during cold starts. However, the new chain also rattles, and at times, I even need to turn off the engine and restart it to eliminate the rattling sound. Have you encountered a similar case before? Should I consider changing the oil pump as well?
This engine is used on current nissan vehicles, You might want to try doing it on an xtrail or a qashqai, even the timing chain covers are prone for oil leaks, But certainly not easier to remove the engine if it’s in an xtrail
Oh, yes, oil leaks by the covers !!! Another great contribution of Nissan combined with a bad desing of the tensioner. All is valid in order to make money-
how did you know if the EXH camshaft is in good position it seems there can be 2 ways and no mark to check without the chain pignon correctly in place before ...
Hello, As we can clearly see in the video this engine has 2x CHAINS, So please confirm why in the video he is changing only the Big one (in front)? The second one (small, low & behind) doesn't need any change also around 300.000 or sooner? Does the small one produce any noise and when wears out? Thanks
And you should really replace both the oil pump and the oil pump chain while doing the timing chain ;) That small chain get stretched and produce noise and oil pump wears out.
@@flolic no such thing as a stretched chain, hence the chain will get loose because the sprockets wear down, 2015 renault trafic 285000 miles, just changed the timing gear for the second time, over the last 3 years we probably done 200 timing chains, the problem is because like the Renault Traffic comes with a 4 warranty not many people have worked on the 1.6,
Isn't taking out the engine and putting it back more time consuming than removing some parts around in the engine compartment? I thought that taking out the engine is done for comfort of work and thus for better accuracy, it also helps to spot various other issues on the engine and components around it.
@@BluesyBor depending what the model of the car this engine is fitted to , so on Espace you can easily do on the car , but on Scenic or Megane it will be a pig of a job
Hi mate, did you understand in the end what torque? I count find and just tight them on feeling. Unfortunately in my case i gived my car for chain replacing in garage. They give me the car with massive oil leak from side panel, because the silicone seal was not fitted good and they start the engine too early before to dry. I should to take off all of the things to have access to the panel, new silicone and fitting back. Never again will not give my car to some idiot to touch it again!
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@@kashonder Hi Sir, that's what I'm doing, I'm trying to build my own car.because my car is old craftsmen don't mess with old car.I'm trying to learn, but nobody teaches what they know.does not share what he knows.They will take what they know to the grave.I asked a thousand masters and none of them answered.It is a very sad situation.
Super vidéo, mais il fallait monter qu’après avoir mis la pige côté démarreur, il fallait tourner le vilebrequin jusqu’a ce qu’il soit appuyé sur la pige.
No, when a bolt is tightened to a degree it is stretching the bolt. Any bolt that is tightened to a degree will never be reused again. The click from the torque wrench is tightening to a specific torque, you can then use any normal ratchet with a dial attached to stretch the bolt to the degree it needs to be.
You don't align two gear teeth of wear compensation gear. In the manual it says: Insert a screwdriver (A) and lift it up to move the gear of wear compensation gear (2).
Я не могу понять что это за отверстие под болтом,куда мастер вначале видео 0.36 вкручивает фиксатор.Что он там фиксирует? И по моему на двигателях моих двух машин такого нет.Рено Масте 2011 и 2018 года. Пойду сейчас специально искать этот болт под фиксацию. Он получается должен быть под стартером.
That Crank sprocket is keyed to the crankshaft and the Chain and the Sprocket has mark that has to line. So what do you gain by using that crankshaft timing tool in this job? ...answer is noting! you just loose time.
Makes it look so easy , try doing it in car . So much for the shite line the car manufacturers sold us mechanics that you don’t have to worry about timing chains , that would have been the case if they hadn’t made the chains out of chocolate
Patricio Garcia not on most timing chains that I have replaced, K12 Micra chains used to stretch after on,y a few years as did almeras , never replaced one that had broken guides
@@madrock1444 or when noises occur just after cranking. Often poor oil causes it to wear prematurely, yes normally should last 300k. But more and more users are replacing chains before that
@@gunnermike76 That´s a failure of the tensioner (leaks oil and the tension is lost) but Nissan says it´s for the poor oil. It´s not true, it´s not caused by the oil, it´s caused for a bad desing of the tensioner. Many people is having problems even during the guarantee time, but if you´re not lucky and your guarantee has expired, then you must pay around 1.000 EUR thanks to Nissan.
@@TrendKiller01 which car you drive? I have an x trail with 168.000 km and after starting i can hear rattling noise of the chain and after one minute or so, it gets quiet. Did you experience something like that?
Normally a timing chain is a life time is the vehicule is well maintained ! However , today enginneer and car maker are just doing worst engine design and the engine are not reliable last ago 10-15 years ! Today you buy tomorow you change already this is CAPITALISM and nothing
Mieczysław Męcik I have replaced the 2.0 cdi in several cars for the range of 200-300 thousand kilometers I will say yes - the engine needs to be changed more smoothly and quietly there are no extraneous noises somehow so
Bonjour s’il vous plaît aidez-moi combien de kilomètres besoin de changer de chaîne distribution ma voiture Renault scénique 2008 2.0 150cv elle 270000 km svp besoint change chaîne distribution ? Dengerous roule avec? Svp merci beaucoup pour réponds
Normalement oui car ça fait bcp de kms et la chaine devrait s'être allongée avec le temps. le signe avant coureur c'est si à froid quand tu démarres tu entends un bruit de frottement/cognements coté chaine de distribution. et oui c'est un risque de casse moteur. si tu fais la réparation change aussi le chaine et pignon qui entraine la pompe à huile (et pourquoi pas aussi la pompe à huile). ça fait beaucoup de travail hélas.
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@@nigelmitchell351 copied from Google as I didn't know either: The purpose of applying degrees of rotation is to ensure that all the bolts are brought to their yield points more accurately than a simple torque value ever can, because a prescribed rotation takes into account the fact that only about 10 to 15 percent of a torque value results in a usable clamping force
If you have good pleace do it yourself. It's not impossible. I gives my car for chain replacing. They took 900£ but gives me the car back with massive oil leak. Of course told me that is not from them. But was. They not fit good the silicone seal on the side panel and even start the engine after just 2 hours before to dry good. I fix it after them. I should to take of everything and to release the engine from brackets. New silicone on the panel and now got no problems at all. Never again will not give my car to some idiot mechanic to tough it.
@@jonsweet8153 Yes i did. It's not easy, but not impossible. Dont forgot that this engine is not for this car. Is there accidentlly. Nissan had only 9 months to build this model. Have to prepare tools and special gasket silicone. You will need electric torque wrench for the belt crankshaft pulley and after that to fit it back (better put back new seal) adjustable torque wrench and angle tool as well. You need probably to remove everything from the face of the car including the radiator and intercooler to have access. There got some trick to remove the water pump pulley as well ( yes you have to remove it). You will need also 2 lifting jacks. I used one hydraulic bottle and one scissors. Be careful to not drop the engine one the ground. I did it 😂 but was not fatal.
Grate educational video if you never done this particular job, no nonsense talking just the information straight to the point (BRAVO!) , now I know what to expect and to prepare properly
Pretty cool, now do ot inside the engine bay like real life mechanics
Calmest guy in history ever to touch one of these engine. Didn’t trap his hand once or tell it to f&£k off 🤣
Most interesting!
Thankyou for sharing
What torque on the 8mms screws?
is the High pressure diesel pump Timmed on a Renualt master III 2,3 Dci 165 RWD ?
This timing chain change is a straightforward and simple thing to do for anyone. It was done to do it easy and simple.
Not all engine that need a timing chain are new and are on a bench.
Do it in the vehicle and on one that has done 100,000 miles and then see if its simple.
tres cool la video....bravo.
Thank for detailed info (how long it is crankshaft pin mot.1970)
I like this solution better than my Peugeot 1.5 DV5 BlueHDI which uses both a belt and timing chain. Apparently the chain tensioner on the Peugeot engine is prone to failure so I wish they would have used a geared drive like on this Renault engine. The chain driven oil pump is not so nice though.
What torque on the 8mms screws
Good job!
Good job thanks
Que bien se hace teniendo el motor fuera del coche, lo complicado es hacerlo con el motor colocado.
I changed the timing chain on my 1.6 dci on Megane 2014 at 150k km because it was rattling during cold starts. However, the new chain also rattles, and at times, I even need to turn off the engine and restart it to eliminate the rattling sound. Have you encountered a similar case before? Should I consider changing the oil pump as well?
It might have been loose oil pump chain
Good.work.sir...mumbaii
What NM for crank pulley?
This engine is used on current nissan vehicles, You might want to try doing it on an xtrail or a qashqai, even the timing chain covers are prone for oil leaks, But certainly not easier to remove the engine if it’s in an xtrail
Its even possible on a megane without taking it out ;)
Oh, yes, oil leaks by the covers !!! Another great contribution of Nissan combined with a bad desing of the tensioner. All is valid in order to make money-
Is this engine in the navara np300......ys23 but bigger pistons...?
how did you know if the EXH camshaft is in good position it seems there can be 2 ways and no mark to check without the chain pignon correctly in place before ...
It's only one Mark, its easy
Nice job
Sympa la vidéo, mais il aurait été bien de préciser la valeur des couples de serrage...
Hello, As we can clearly see in the video this engine has 2x CHAINS, So please confirm why in the video he is changing only the Big one (in front)?
The second one (small, low & behind) doesn't need any change also around 300.000 or sooner?
Does the small one produce any noise and when wears out?
Thanks
That's just the chain for the oil pump in the sump
And you should really replace both the oil pump and the oil pump chain while doing the timing chain ;)
That small chain get stretched and produce noise and oil pump wears out.
@@flolic no such thing as a stretched chain, hence the chain will get loose because the sprockets wear down, 2015 renault trafic 285000 miles, just changed the timing gear for the second time, over the last 3 years we probably done 200 timing chains, the problem is because like the Renault Traffic comes with a 4 warranty not many people have worked on the 1.6,
Good video! This is also possible on the car, after removing many parts. Garages well equipped prefer taking the engine out to gain time
Isn't taking out the engine and putting it back more time consuming than removing some parts around in the engine compartment? I thought that taking out the engine is done for comfort of work and thus for better accuracy, it also helps to spot various other issues on the engine and components around it.
@@BluesyBor yes that is true. Just when you're not equipped it's better to leave it in the car and hurt your hands 😁
@@BluesyBor depending what the model of the car this engine is fitted to , so on Espace you can easily do on the car , but on Scenic or Megane it will be a pig of a job
@@rokowoju8558 Renault Espace 2010 2.0dCi Timing chain replacement ► ua-cam.com/video/STBBdo--sek/v-deo.html
but is it possible to do it on a scenic 3 without removing it? and without elevator?@@rokowoju8558
What’s the link for the timing tool are the 1.6r9m engines the same as the 2.0m9r do they use the same tool
Different tools. MOT 1969 (cam tool) and MOT 1970 (crank pin).
Merci
How many kg of torque wrench do you tighten the 8 screw?
Hi mate, did you understand in the end what torque? I count find and just tight them on feeling. Unfortunately in my case i gived my car for chain replacing in garage. They give me the car with massive oil leak from side panel, because the silicone seal was not fitted good and they start the engine too early before to dry. I should to take off all of the things to have access to the panel, new silicone and fitting back. Never again will not give my car to some idiot to touch it again!
@@kashonder Hi Sir, that's what I'm doing, I'm trying to build my own car.because my car is old craftsmen don't mess with old car.I'm trying to learn, but nobody teaches what they know.does not share what he knows.They will take what they know to the grave.I asked a thousand masters and none of them answered.It is a very sad situation.
@@kashonder Greetings from Polish warsova to you.
25nm guide bolts, 10nm tensioner bolts
Super vidéo, mais il fallait monter qu’après avoir mis la pige côté démarreur, il fallait tourner le vilebrequin jusqu’a ce qu’il soit appuyé sur la pige.
Thanks.
Es para un motor 1.6 dci???
Nice
Kem sapt timing position
Cual es el torque de ajuste de los tornillos
Bien
parabens..... aqui do brasil
Nice name for silicon gasket....must get one just for fun...
How many kg do you tighten the 8 screw?
See manual 4 instructions
Is that angle dial act as a torque wrench?
No, when a bolt is tightened to a degree it is stretching the bolt. Any bolt that is tightened to a degree will never be reused again. The click from the torque wrench is tightening to a specific torque, you can then use any normal ratchet with a dial attached to stretch the bolt to the degree it needs to be.
How time and place on car???
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Is this an engine out job?
porque se debe cambiar la cadena? tiene algun kilomtraje para cambiar o falla de ese elemento??
Las cadenas cuando ya tienen desgaste, comienzan a sonar, y eso es indicio de que ya le falta poquito para el cambio
Once upon a time chains used to last the life of an engine. Nowadays they are changed as often as belts!!
Some chains can be used for 350 000 to 500 000 km without problems. M9R chain is the same occasion.
10 years ago this video has to be shown is an old engine
Роман Грицай maybe for you. In my country it’s new engine in the Renault models sold here....
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You don't align two gear teeth of wear compensation gear. In the manual it says: Insert a screwdriver (A) and lift it up to move the gear of wear
compensation gear (2).
Еще бы не плохо моменты затяжки указывать))
Я не могу понять что это за отверстие под болтом,куда мастер вначале видео 0.36 вкручивает фиксатор.Что он там фиксирует?
И по моему на двигателях моих двух машин такого нет.Рено Масте 2011 и 2018 года.
Пойду сейчас специально искать этот болт под фиксацию.
Он получается должен быть под стартером.
Фиксация коленвала. Это двигатель 1.6 он на мастера не устанавливался.
How you can know thats need change ? making voices or other problem?
कैम्षाफ्ट की टाइमिंग कहां पर है इस में आपने बताया नहीं
Comments will be on a next video??
Через сколько тысяч километров нужно менять? Заранее благодарю за ответ
Если не дёргать двигатель, то на весь срок цепи хватает. А если постоянно резко давать газ в пол, то 200-250 проходит
От 150т км , редко до 300 т км … по звуку определяют , ( некоторые по загнутым клапанам )
Меняй масло не как в Европе через 30 000 а через 10 000 то прослужит 300 000
When the engine is out even my grandma will do it. Show how to do it when the engine is on Qashqai engine bay 😂
Does it need to remove it?
@@calistofox Kinda, water pump pulley will block the way.
3:00 на маслонасосе почему цепь не поменял?
Hello,
Can you please tel mi the lenght of the crankshaft pin.
Thank you.
White marker on the flywheel is always used here.
That Crank sprocket is keyed to the crankshaft and the Chain and the Sprocket has mark that has to line.
So what do you gain by using that crankshaft timing tool in this job? ...answer is noting! you just loose time.
On CAR ?????
Makes it look so easy , try doing it in car . So much for the shite line the car manufacturers sold us mechanics that you don’t have to worry about timing chains , that would have been the case if they hadn’t made the chains out of chocolate
iain hunter what is made of chocolate is the guides... like on the v8 bmw
Patricio Garcia not on most timing chains that I have replaced, K12 Micra chains used to stretch after on,y a few years as did almeras , never replaced one that had broken guides
Simplex chains are crap. Duplex last forever
how many pounds need to tighten a torque wrench Kaa Pulley, crankshaft
Km Interval of changing chain?
never or 300.000 km
@@madrock1444 or when noises occur just after cranking. Often poor oil causes it to wear prematurely, yes normally should last 300k. But more and more users are replacing chains before that
@@gunnermike76 That´s a failure of the tensioner (leaks oil and the tension is lost) but Nissan says it´s for the poor oil. It´s not true, it´s not caused by the oil, it´s caused for a bad desing of the tensioner. Many people is having problems even during the guarantee time, but if you´re not lucky and your guarantee has expired, then you must pay around 1.000 EUR thanks to Nissan.
mine failed around 170000 kms. mecanic asks 2000 euros for the job.
@@TrendKiller01 which car you drive?
I have an x trail with 168.000 km and after starting i can hear rattling noise of the chain and after one minute or so, it gets quiet. Did you experience something like that?
Sa alatom moze svako, aj da vas vidim bez blokada
sto bi se upustao u ovaj posao bez alata?
Normally a timing chain is a life time is the vehicule is well maintained ! However , today enginneer and car maker are just doing worst engine design and the engine are not reliable last ago 10-15 years ! Today you buy tomorow you change already this is CAPITALISM and nothing
After how many kilometres the timing chain changes?
Alex Alexandru ~200-250 thousands km
Mieczysław Męcik 😂😂🔥
Mieczysław Męcik I have replaced the 2.0 cdi in several cars for the range of 200-300 thousand kilometers I will say yes - the engine needs to be changed more smoothly and quietly there are no extraneous noises somehow so
@@user-bp8ob7rj3x the timing chain change is a mandatory change to 250,000km and to the 1.6 130hp dci R9M engine !!!! thank you very much!!!!
Doesn't need to be changed. Unless you hear a rattle, which means it's becoming loose.
Bonjour s’il vous plaît aidez-moi combien de kilomètres besoin de changer de chaîne distribution ma voiture Renault scénique 2008 2.0 150cv elle 270000 km svp besoint change chaîne distribution ? Dengerous roule avec? Svp merci beaucoup pour réponds
Normalement oui car ça fait bcp de kms et la chaine devrait s'être allongée avec le temps. le signe avant coureur c'est si à froid quand tu démarres tu entends un bruit de frottement/cognements coté chaine de distribution. et oui c'est un risque de casse moteur. si tu fais la réparation change aussi le chaine et pignon qui entraine la pompe à huile (et pourquoi pas aussi la pompe à huile). ça fait beaucoup de travail hélas.
@@TrendKiller01 merci beaucoup vous
Svp nermalmo combien km changer chaîne distribution
Зачем фиксировать распредвалы если цепь уже стоит?
Так положение откорректировать нужно, приспасоба именно для этого
Halo
Toq
e un 1.6 dci biturbo?
nu e 2.3 bi-turbo.
scuze de cnfuzie într-adevăr este de 1.6 turbo am verificat pe wikipedia
@@petrujugan4367 ok mulțumesc că lucrez în garaj știu că salutările motorului din Italia
It is a 1.6. The 2.3 is the same procedure, just different reference of tools
Iwis part number please !?
nm to nie laska podac tylko na obrazki was stac.... bez sensu caly material jezeli nie ma takich docelowych szczegółów
Bilbao cf- listo
R9m ? M9r?
almost the same motor. timing chain is the same.
All good except you change all this whilst the engine is inside the vehicle
какая высокая культура производства работ. сколько занимает по нормо часам, какая стоимость. спасибо
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The correct engine code is M9R.
no, its an evolution of M9R. but timing is the same anyway.
Opel cosa
M9R 🤷🏻♂️???
Сколько стоит Опель астра к
У тебя с головой все впорядке ?
What's with this French idea of part torque then so many degrees, why not just give an all up torque figure? Anyone please.?
The degree is to stretch the bolt, if you Google torque to yield bolts it will explain why its needed for certain parts on the car.
@@mrsweete9065 I understand the principal of these types of bolt, but fail to see why this cannot be quoted as figures in Nm.
@@nigelmitchell351 copied from Google as I didn't know either:
The purpose of applying degrees of rotation is to ensure that all the bolts are brought to their yield points more accurately than a simple torque value ever can, because a prescribed rotation takes into account the fact that only about 10 to 15 percent of a torque value results in a usable clamping force
@@mrsweete9065 Some of the torque figures for PSA engine crank pulley bolts are frightening compared to normal 10.9 values.
Da ga vidim kad je motor na vozilu lahko je ovako se sepuriti
do it in the car, not so easy as on a stand
ASMR video
M9R
R9M
@@fajoopsa it is a 2l dci or a 1.6 dci ?
@@matlopes2402 title says 1.6 r-type.
The M9R and R9M naming is not the best thing for dyslexic mechanics.
And now when the engine is in a car, a little kid can replace the chain from an engine its not in a car.This is not how its go in real life
It is possible in the car also.
Навіщо я це дивився ? В мене ровер
10 min video ??? how the flying fnuck when i google how much it should cost does it come back £500 - £1300 !!!
If you have good pleace do it yourself. It's not impossible. I gives my car for chain replacing. They took 900£ but gives me the car back with massive oil leak. Of course told me that is not from them. But was. They not fit good the silicone seal on the side panel and even start the engine after just 2 hours before to dry good. I fix it after them. I should to take of everything and to release the engine from brackets. New silicone on the panel and now got no problems at all. Never again will not give my car to some idiot mechanic to tough it.
@@kashonder - Did you manage to remove the front cover without removing the engine? I need to do this on my Qashqai as the front cover leaks oil.
@@jonsweet8153 Yes i did. It's not easy, but not impossible. Dont forgot that this engine is not for this car. Is there accidentlly. Nissan had only 9 months to build this model. Have to prepare tools and special gasket silicone. You will need electric torque wrench for the belt crankshaft pulley and after that to fit it back (better put back new seal) adjustable torque wrench and angle tool as well. You need probably to remove everything from the face of the car including the radiator and intercooler to have access. There got some trick to remove the water pump pulley as well ( yes you have to remove it). You will need also 2 lifting jacks. I used one hydraulic bottle and one scissors. Be careful to not drop the engine one the ground. I did it 😂 but was not fatal.
In ausgebaute Zustand kann sogar meine verstorbene Oma zerlegen man muss in eingebautem Zustand mal zeigen Video aber nicht so eine lächerlich
The worst engine design ever this 1.6 dci everything is hard to get and hard to change even hard to find part for this engine I'm disappointed
To stupidly show a replacement and not say why it is, i.e. how long should it be done.