@@MrYexasmute the mouth breathers in your games that get pissed at you for picking a character that doesn’t break any comps. as a peni main almost in gm (diamond 1 rn) ive had so many ppl just flame me from the start only to later get carried by me.
It's like the mark of every future big Rivals tuber to get really good with a hero streamers consider shit and then stomp until it becomes meta, lmao this one following in the footsteps of Wolverine and Hulk
I’m gonna start making content titled “proving every streamer wrong about *strong hero* in marvel rivals” and it’ll just be me getting dumpstered while playing broken heroes like Hela
just imagine if Mr Fantastic’s Ultimate had a Knock Down Effect per Hit instead of the Slow then it’ll make his Ultimate useful and Disruptive or would that break the game
Honestly I think Knock Down on every hit is overkill, maybe some sort of scaling on damage per person hit (more damage the more you hit so they all scatter on their own), more control on the recast, nuke damage on the 6th hit (if you manage to get up to 6 AND surviving there needs to be a payoff), or as you said, a Knock Down on the 3rd and 6th hit.
It honestly just needs to do more damage. The amount of times I’ve gotten the whole team to just a few hit points left just for the ult to end is so annoying.
Necros just rates as “bad” most of the things that counter spiderman. He’s an idiot. It’s not a secret that no one liked him even during Overwatch. He’s Metro in diver form.
His ult dmg should be increased and the transformation should be faster. I main Mr fantastic and I've died many times mid transformation. But I have to say with good healers and awareness you are almost unkillable if you play right.
@@richardmenz3257 He's not impossible to kill not sure where you came up with that. You're not in inflatable form untill you have done two Es a right click and two auto attacks. Theres a clear window he can be killed.
@@possumwithacowboyhat5140 having an ult you can’t use at the best moment is dumb as well. And most think he is bad that one change would change a lot of things.
It feels like all the Fantastic 4 are gonna be hybrids in some way or another. Ben could be a Tank that can do high dmg, and Johnny could be a DPS that can also act as a support buffer/ area denial, which is my prediction.
Dude c9s, is 1-4 and is asking his team what they’re doing… never change necros that type of “confidence” (ego) could rule countries if you weren’t playing marvel rivals lol
@CalebStonge you can't get kills if the whole team is bad in games where the teams getting stomped rarely do you see anyone on the losing team with alot more kills than the rest in the team unless they had 1 big ult in the match clearly you've never played for you not to know this.
If you see in score board venom got an ultimate and he used it (most likely with racoon ult which increases damage) I think that's what he was talking about
rocket's slow but constant healing makes venom even more naturally tanky than he already is without having to use the cooldowns/resources that other supports would, his res makes venom even more of a nuisance by reviving him after the half hour it takes to kill him, and finally the dmg boost makes venom's dive->right click->ult combo actually kill consistently
jfc I didnt notice until now but the bitrate of the video is taking a dump during the bigger fights with visual effects, I wonder how that looks on Twitch with their capped bitrate lmao.
Loving Mr Fantastic videos! I would love a replay review of a dope game you had pausing and describing what you did and how you thought at each moment of the match to have success, Captain Coach replay coaching videos changed completely how I played Hulk and I feel like I would like some videos like those with Reed along the full raw gameplays like these
Hitbox lingers for a while and you could hit multiple targets, so yeah him moving his arms like that is good. While his attacks can cleave they will not hit someone behind the person you just hit, so for example if you hit the strange and technically the support standing behind him it will only do damage to the strange.
I think the worst thing about mr fantastic is his no-regs due to melee and lingering hitboxes. Fantastic’s only big weakness’s is he can’t really fight into high ground, his damage is pretty slow and his ult is rarely good. He’s like a little map reliant but extremely annoying. Kind of like iron fist in a way its understandable why people sleep on him.
Mr fantastic is only good only when healers focus him because he is easy to heal. The problems with him is that he is good only dealing damage across multiple enemies but not able to kill anything, he is just a sponge, he just survives.
I mean he doesn’t really need to get focused since his health pool is so low compared to Tanks that he can get stray heals and keep himself alive. He works at his best if there’s a dive comp jumping supports, since he can shield their dive target and just be generally nuisance with lingering hit boxes. He also works as a tanks best friend, pulling in weak targets towards them and giving extra shields to keep them in the fight longer. He’s a Swiss Army Knife, a Jack of All Trades Master of None
The scoreboard doesn't show everything. What about Mr. F giving his teammates shields and peeling for them? The scoreboard won't show that and so many other things. A lot of heroes have "hidden value" that you won't see unless you're watching from their perspective.
I’m trying to get better with him cause I find him fun. Is their a reason why you seem to always go into reflect form once you get to 100 charge instead of going straight into the inflated form ?
@ it’s a good tactic to trick the enemy into thinking you’ll back up but then you instantly do tank mode, btw this is the only ability you can do before going into tank mode you just have to hit the button fast if not you just automatically enter the tank mode
If I’m not mistaken going into block right at 100 charge holds off the tank transformation, and the duration of the tank transformation will greatly offset the Block cooldown so you can have it up again at the end of your tank transformation
Mr fantastic is such a great menace to the enemy he might don't do all the dmg but he just keeps standing in the way if only he went small a liltle faster so when 6 people focus shoot u can actually run away😂
ive learned that most tier list videos are "if character do no big damage then automatic trash". Ive noticed it more from this game even though if you just play good with a character, they all can be good.
Don’t see how you would rank him so low unless ignoring the things he’s good at. A duelist/tank with and ult dodger, gives out shields, and an 800 health transformation. Idk
normal take: they need to play the hero to at least rate em really feels like every list made its always showing the ignorance and them probably sucking as that character but due to them being "top x in y" they think they know all so its not them its the character sucking
anyone that said Mr Fantastic is bad obviously didn’t put time in him. Mr Fantastic only weakness is hawkeye and punishers shotgun. Other than you that can 1v2 the entire roster
Imagine being a streamer and saying a character is bad but never trying to play it lol. I went 30-0 with Fantastic just yesterday, if you know his kit he is great
I don’t know why people hate on mr fantastic, he’s always been good, soon as he came out he was insane, he still is, he’s not even hard to play either, I see a list like the beginning and its just dumb, you can’t possibly think magik or venom is better than mr fantastic
Mr Fantastic is good for real he make a lot of comp to be good. he give 75 hp to ally the only bad thing is his ult is so ass. you need low ceiling to be good if his ult start at 100 dmg holy that might be a good ult but now is just bad that it. even SCARLET WITCH have a good ult but Mr Fantastic ult is just bad. but like Mr Fantastic is make my games feel comedy and funny to heard his voice.
Hey bro. Liked the video, but the sound effects when getting a kill or dying really detracted from it. If that's your gimmick, then sure, but I don't think they really added anything valuable to your video.
Mr fantastic is good necros trippin’ the only problem with him is the range of his punches to me , when they first release him I thought he was good an invisible women was trash but after playing both I see them both being very good
Just recently people started to flame me for picking him lol. How'd I know one of these cornballs made a tier list, and put him at the bottom 😂. I'm naturally attracted to the worst heroes, as I love proving people wrong. I honestly find the best results by playing him as the 2nd tank (aka 3 DPS). I'll get as many kills as the lead DPS, while blocking as much dmg as the tanks lol. I do feel like his ult is kinda trash, but if it was strong he'd be OP probably. Love seeing the "bad" heroes proving people wrong 😎
@ you can’t cap ain’t really a main tank he’s like a bulky dps you constantly divide the front line by diving the back and having players peal if they don’t you just kill the supports
People need to realise there aren't any bad characters, all it takes is just to be good with that character, plus if you think character is bad it is most likely that your just bad at playing the characters, like kenzo who plays widow, he dominated with her all it takes is some skill and you get gud at character unless you play iron fist or Spiderman absolutely zero skill 1 brain cell characters just press button get kill run away like coward
Proving Necros wrong is a sport at this point
the fact that we had big 4 and the best cap on 1 team is awesome lol
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Who is Necros even anyway? Guessing by the comment streamer thats usually confidently wrong about stuff?
@@KronosHobbes a low IQ pseudo influencer content creator.
@@KronosHobbeshe’s the best spiderman player in the world… don’t know why that makes him an expert tier list maker
Making calls and leading the team? This guy is Mr. F irl fr
Played Mr Fantastic up to GM and he has way more potential than people realize. When he eventually gets buffed he is gonna be a menace.
I think the same but I get push back alot
@@MrYexasmute the mouth breathers in your games that get pissed at you for picking a character that doesn’t break any comps. as a peni main almost in gm (diamond 1 rn) ive had so many ppl just flame me from the start only to later get carried by me.
@@Flapjack3734 ty for the advice!
@@Flapjack3734 Crazy to react like that about Peni, she's not nearly as bad as someone like widow, she's mid at worst
@@KingOfDarknessAndEvil it's crazy I was all excited for the widow buffs but because of the hela and Hawkeye nerfs she's even more unplayable now .
Necros looks like that guy from monters Inc that got stuck in the scream sucking machine and he had the big lips and was super pale after words
😂
Afterwards*
Whenever someone is proving that a character is busted, Necros is always on the thumbnail
because it gets the views
cuz hes freelo
Called it
Necros is just a "proof me wrong because I actually don't know anything" meme at some point
Nobody knows anything when the season literally came out not long ago (at the time of his tier list)
@@sspeed1234yeah still dumb it’s like when people had wolverine as ass before even knowing how to play him
It's like the mark of every future big Rivals tuber to get really good with a hero streamers consider shit and then stomp until it becomes meta, lmao this one following in the footsteps of Wolverine and Hulk
I still can’t believe anyone ever thought hulk was bad. 😂
@@IfonlyIwassmallerliterally lmao
And storm
@ Storm was bad until she got buffed for season 1, wasn't she?
@@trashed4005 yes. She was lol
I've played against you a bunch of times, you take so much pressure off your team it's so good
Mister fantastic is great a trend in marvel rivals is people not understanding how to use characters and calling them trash automatically
DPS mains hate him because he's actually a vanguard in disguise lmao
I’m gonna start making content titled “proving every streamer wrong about *strong hero* in marvel rivals” and it’ll just be me getting dumpstered while playing broken heroes like Hela
This is sick
If (insert meta character) is so good how come my team loses every time I pick them?
just imagine if Mr Fantastic’s Ultimate had a Knock Down Effect per Hit instead of the Slow then it’ll make his Ultimate useful and Disruptive or would that break the game
theres so many ways for them to change this character i feel like
Honestly I think Knock Down on every hit is overkill, maybe some sort of scaling on damage per person hit (more damage the more you hit so they all scatter on their own), more control on the recast, nuke damage on the 6th hit (if you manage to get up to 6 AND surviving there needs to be a payoff), or as you said, a Knock Down on the 3rd and 6th hit.
It honestly just needs to do more damage. The amount of times I’ve gotten the whole team to just a few hit points left just for the ult to end is so annoying.
It should do a stacking mortal strike per hit max at 50%
A knock down like the namor whale? Oh Naaa😭😭😭 maybe just more damage
Necros just rates as “bad” most of the things that counter spiderman. He’s an idiot. It’s not a secret that no one liked him even during Overwatch. He’s Metro in diver form.
Bro why are u getting personal 😂
I always wanna watch these videos but the flicking action to hit multiple people per left click always gives me turbo motion sickness lmao
His ult dmg should be increased and the transformation should be faster. I main Mr fantastic and I've died many times mid transformation. But I have to say with good healers and awareness you are almost unkillable if you play right.
Thats me in the video :) gg playing with you was fun
venom demon
Mr. F does need a buff but the only thing he needs is that he auto inflats when he ults that is it.
I think he need a little bit more reach when he aims at a team member so he can escape a little easier.
@ I think they want to keep it that way since he is immpossible to kill unless he over extends.
@@richardmenz3257 He's not impossible to kill not sure where you came up with that. You're not in inflatable form untill you have done two Es a right click and two auto attacks. Theres a clear window he can be killed.
No, the whole point is that you’re supposed to be managing your Elasticity well. Just making it a +600 hp button would be stupid and unbalanced.
@@possumwithacowboyhat5140 having an ult you can’t use at the best moment is dumb as well. And most think he is bad that one change would change a lot of things.
1:12 man that comp actually looks evil. 2.5 tanks, 2 supports, and an anti dive DPS.
That in game text/subtitles was melting my brain in the beginning 😂
Fantastic to me only feels good when you have a decent team. He’s certainly not capable of putting out enough damage to carry a game
i think every character requires a decent team, hes a good highelo pick cus its not as rng
He’s like a Swiss Army knife, he can help your team in multiple areas but can’t really be great at one thing so he doesn’t have carry potential
Hes a tank dps hybrid. He has lower damage but more defense ans can get higher damage in his bigger form.
It feels like all the Fantastic 4 are gonna be hybrids in some way or another. Ben could be a Tank that can do high dmg, and Johnny could be a DPS that can also act as a support buffer/ area denial, which is my prediction.
2:02 did he just sniff his drink, cause definitely didn’t take a sip
Watching Marvel Rivals matches with breakcore in the background gives me adrenaline. GG
i started playing mr fantastic lately and man he is so good at peeling for the back line
Can't believe I found a Mr. Fantastic main on my recommended, feels like I found an extinct species
Dude c9s, is 1-4 and is asking his team what they’re doing… never change necros that type of “confidence” (ego) could rule countries if you weren’t playing marvel rivals lol
No no
He said what are WE doing
@ we all know exactly what he means by that, besides, I didn’t quote him and my sentence says the same thing. “What they’re doing” he is part of they.
Doesnt this just mean that youre really good with Mr Fantastic, not that Mr Fantastic is good?
It's the other way around , if your not doing good at him your bad not the hero. His kit is easy as hell and good for peeling for his strategist.
Buddy’s 1-4 asking what they’re doing
Wasn’t everyone like 1-4
@ correct me if I’m wrong but shouldn’t the dps be actually getting the kills instead of blaming their team
@@CalebStongeI’m pretty sure he was saying that also because from his pov no one was in vc
@CalebStonge you can't get kills if the whole team is bad in games where the teams getting stomped rarely do you see anyone on the losing team with alot more kills than the rest in the team unless they had 1 big ult in the match clearly you've never played for you not to know this.
@@kaikaku49 I’ve reached diamond playing mostly vanguard and strategist majority games I’ve lost the egomaniac dps players play abysmal
May I ask how racoon+Venom is good? 11:24
If you see in score board venom got an ultimate and he used it (most likely with racoon ult which increases damage) I think that's what he was talking about
@@viienn +revives so after the whole enemy team spends 2 whole mins focusing venom and finally kills he comes right back
rocket's slow but constant healing makes venom even more naturally tanky than he already is without having to use the cooldowns/resources that other supports would, his res makes venom even more of a nuisance by reviving him after the half hour it takes to kill him, and finally the dmg boost makes venom's dive->right click->ult combo actually kill consistently
forgot to add rocket jump pack so venom can dive out of nowhere on backline but save his swing
@ i didnt think about that, thats really useful actually
jfc I didnt notice until now but the bitrate of the video is taking a dump during the bigger fights with visual effects, I wonder how that looks on Twitch with their capped bitrate lmao.
Loving Mr Fantastic videos! I would love a replay review of a dope game you had pausing and describing what you did and how you thought at each moment of the match to have success, Captain Coach replay coaching videos changed completely how I played Hulk and I feel like I would like some videos like those with Reed along the full raw gameplays like these
does moving your camera around like that when you swing help the hits connect?
He has the ability to move his hitbox of his swings so essentially yes it does help especially when wanting to connect to multiple targets
yeah he swings his camera a lot to hit multiple people with his normal attacks and fat man attacks
Hitbox lingers for a while and you could hit multiple targets, so yeah him moving his arms like that is good. While his attacks can cleave they will not hit someone behind the person you just hit, so for example if you hit the strange and technically the support standing behind him it will only do damage to the strange.
I love Mr. F a lot, he’s super damn good. Despite my obvious biased views, his ult does need some kind of buff.
He Is Blinded By The 2ND Wolv Player 2:34
I think the worst thing about mr fantastic is his no-regs due to melee and lingering hitboxes.
Fantastic’s only big weakness’s is he can’t really fight into high ground, his damage is pretty slow and his ult is rarely good. He’s like a little map reliant but extremely annoying.
Kind of like iron fist in a way its understandable why people sleep on him.
Yeah hes awesome just got diamond one with him, 65% win rate 50 matches just started last week. Hes so fun
Can someone explain why some people say 1v9 when there is only 6 people on a team?
The top player has like only 40 hours on ranked and one of his mains is mr fantastic
I live by Mr Fantastic and Scarlet Witch are strong. Their pressure, peel, anti-dive and backline support is so good.
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Fantastic sure but Scarlett no. I cook every Scarlett with spiderman
True gold take
No not Scarlet Witch. She can get out dps’d by every character in the game
@ Doesn't make sense, that wasn't my point.
Ahh there he is got in a game together and we talked about our lord fantastics lol
Mr fantastic is only good only when healers focus him because he is easy to heal. The problems with him is that he is good only dealing damage across multiple enemies but not able to kill anything, he is just a sponge, he just survives.
I mean he doesn’t really need to get focused since his health pool is so low compared to Tanks that he can get stray heals and keep himself alive. He works at his best if there’s a dive comp jumping supports, since he can shield their dive target and just be generally nuisance with lingering hit boxes. He also works as a tanks best friend, pulling in weak targets towards them and giving extra shields to keep them in the fight longer. He’s a Swiss Army Knife, a Jack of All Trades Master of None
Bros 5-1 typing in chat idk man don’t think you were the diff but maybe I gotta watch the vod
The scoreboard doesn't show everything. What about Mr. F giving his teammates shields and peeling for them? The scoreboard won't show that and so many other things. A lot of heroes have "hidden value" that you won't see unless you're watching from their perspective.
This video needed to be made. Thank you.
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i came here for this comment
Fantastic is really fun. I wish his ULT was different. I hate his ULT
His ults very funny if you catch people indoors like in the first part of midtown.
Yeah but it's pretty bad you need everything to align for you to get worth out of it
@@tommyvercetti165 It's not meant as a kill mechanic, it's meant to support your team.
@@dreadtrain2846Awful ult
@@dreadtrain2846 ya its a disruption ult
That 4 KO is pretty confusing 😂
thats on 4 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
I’m trying to get better with him cause I find him fun. Is their a reason why you seem to always go into reflect form once you get to 100 charge instead of going straight into the inflated form ?
It’s so you can absorb dmg before going into tank mode it’s like a glitch ability
@ what’s the glitch ? Like what does it do ?
@ it’s a good tactic to trick the enemy into thinking you’ll back up but then you instantly do tank mode, btw this is the only ability you can do before going into tank mode you just have to hit the button fast if not you just automatically enter the tank mode
If I’m not mistaken going into block right at 100 charge holds off the tank transformation, and the duration of the tank transformation will greatly offset the Block cooldown so you can have it up again at the end of your tank transformation
cant wait for the next live this dude is PEAK
bros on my soundcloud playlist, nice vid
What is the song playing the background ? Need the id on that
for some reason i really enjoy playing mister fantastic, i think hes very fun
Mr fantastic is such a great menace to the enemy he might don't do all the dmg but he just keeps standing in the way if only he went small a liltle faster so when 6 people focus shoot u can actually run away😂
ive learned that most tier list videos are "if character do no big damage then automatic trash". Ive noticed it more from this game even though if you just play good with a character, they all can be good.
Don’t see how you would rank him so low unless ignoring the things he’s good at. A duelist/tank with and ult dodger, gives out shields, and an 800 health transformation. Idk
normal take: they need to play the hero to at least rate em really feels like every list made its always showing the ignorance and them probably sucking as that character but due to them being "top x in y" they think they know all so its not them its the character sucking
Oh this one doin numbers, I remember this live
No point in running a Mr. Fantastic over a Thor tbh
Yea yea w.e, take this chest bump shield health and be grateful 😭🙏🏽
It looks like he was Fantastic after all
First wolverine LOGANG!!! And now Mr.Fantastic . Who will be next 😂
My boi the Thing!! I’m maining that guy till Ultron releases
I keep telling people Mr. Fantastic is incredible.
Idk man i still dont see that much value on the ult
Fantastic has the power to create another GOATs meta but in Rivals 😭
anyone that said Mr Fantastic is bad obviously didn’t put time in him. Mr Fantastic only weakness is hawkeye and punishers shotgun. Other than you that can 1v2 the entire roster
Bro why your 1080p feels like 480p 😭
Maybe bitrate crunching on yt or something like that.
the wolverine effect
i wish i had teammates like yours
Mr fantastic got me into diamond. He’s my boy
i see u getting value but like im about to fall asleep watching this video bruh
Do I hear Sewerslvt? based song choice
I love how they rank him low because they don't know how to play him
The captions are killing me
Necros is just another egomaniac
Low ceilings means faster bounces
Great video, Quackity 🤝
Imagine being a streamer and saying a character is bad but never trying to play it lol. I went 30-0 with Fantastic just yesterday, if you know his kit he is great
We love the cynthoni music
I don’t know why people hate on mr fantastic, he’s always been good, soon as he came out he was insane, he still is, he’s not even hard to play either, I see a list like the beginning and its just dumb, you can’t possibly think magik or venom is better than mr fantastic
Lmfao
no necros wipe those tears 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I hear one of Cynthoni's song in the background in the intro
2 ytb mention in all chat at the end is just begging atp bro
You have no idea how much I fw Cynthoni
That Necros guy is f'ing weird and creepy.
What💀
Mr Fantastic is good for real he make a lot of comp to be good.
he give 75 hp to ally the only bad thing is his ult is so ass.
you need low ceiling to be good if his ult start at 100 dmg holy that might be a good ult but now is just bad that it.
even SCARLET WITCH have a good ult but Mr Fantastic ult is just bad.
but like Mr Fantastic is make my games feel comedy and funny to heard his voice.
yo does anyone else get mouse lag in this game? everything runs fine, but sometimes my mouse lags. only in this game
160 fps jk it’s 30 jk it’s 20 jk it’s 180 jk it’s 120 jk it’s 10 jk it’s 145…. Like wtf? 😂😂😂
you mean the cringe duelist that can give himself more hp than some tanks, negate all dmg and deflect ults is meta? who would’ve guessed
And that's on 4
Hey bro. Liked the video, but the sound effects when getting a kill or dying really detracted from it. If that's your gimmick, then sure, but I don't think they really added anything valuable to your video.
Those green subtitles look hideous holy
Mr fantastic is good necros trippin’ the only problem with him is the range of his punches to me , when they first release him I thought he was good an invisible women was trash but after playing both I see them both being very good
Just recently people started to flame me for picking him lol. How'd I know one of these cornballs made a tier list, and put him at the bottom 😂.
I'm naturally attracted to the worst heroes, as I love proving people wrong. I honestly find the best results by playing him as the 2nd tank (aka 3 DPS). I'll get as many kills as the lead DPS, while blocking as much dmg as the tanks lol. I do feel like his ult is kinda trash, but if it was strong he'd be OP probably. Love seeing the "bad" heroes proving people wrong 😎
Necros is t he reason uncle ben died
Almost gonna be be Gm1 just maining him and cap
Can you solo tank with Cap, I always wanna play him but always end up being the only tank and having to go Strange.
@ you can’t cap ain’t really a main tank he’s like a bulky dps you constantly divide the front line by diving the back and having players peal if they don’t you just kill the supports
Every character is super viable in this game. Some are harder to master. If you put in the work you can make any character goated
Subscribed because of goofy rubber man. That‘s definetly an investement
Necros is always wrong. Why does his opinion matter at this point?
everyone just milking necros for content at this point
yo i wanna watch this but the video quality....
People need to realise there aren't any bad characters, all it takes is just to be good with that character, plus if you think character is bad it is most likely that your just bad at playing the characters, like kenzo who plays widow, he dominated with her all it takes is some skill and you get gud at character unless you play iron fist or Spiderman absolutely zero skill 1 brain cell characters just press button get kill run away like coward
omg you're so good quackity
i rly enjoy him plz dont make him popular.
Bro u should go live
Not as good as butcruncher17, but good play nonetheless.