@@AlphaRed28 I have the base model and I don’t take it to the track often but as a newbie and someone who doesn’t track often, even the base model is insanely good. I’ve owned the prior generations as well, all base for 987.1 and 981 models. I loved all of them but the 718 handles incredibly well and low down torque helps it’s usability in daily driving. Otherwise, I actually think the 987.1 was the most fun to drive off the track.
I own this exact car. I have also owned or driven for extended periods of time,...Audi, Mercedes, and Ferrari, to say that the Cayman 718 is superior to all of them is the understatement of the year. The car is just amazing. It's beautiful to look at, stunning in fact. And so fast, just so so fast, it's crazy. The handling can't be described it's so good. As you can tell, I love my Porsche Cayman :)
The fellow in this video remarks that reliability was on the low end, even lower than Audi. Has that proved accurate for you? I’ve always heard that Porsche was among the most reliable of vehicles. I’m very close to specing a Cayman and this had me somewhat concerned. Please let me know of your real world experience. Thank you.
@@rboddington Yeah, the fellow in the video threw me off when he said it was near the bottom in his reliability report. I’m very close to ordering a Cayman. Seems crazy to think it’ll be almost the last ones before Porsche goes all electric. I want to have a Cayman in a gasoline version. Thanks.
People who whine like entitled spoiled kids over the 4 cylinder engines doesn't know Porsche history: 550 spyder and 356 speedster, 944 and 968 had 4 cylinder engines.
I test drove the TTRS and Cayman S. TTRS has the performance but does not feel special. Its also quite cramped. Cayman S has more of a sense of occasion and you know you're in something a little different. TTRS is a straight line projectile and tends to under steer but the Cayman is glorious in the corners. The Porsche is more of an involved drive with higher engagement. Loved the 5 cylinder on the Audi and would always pick it over a 2 litre turbo. Which is why I went for the 981.
If you get a chance to drive a Cayman jump at the chance, The driving experience is awesome. It sticks to the road the chassis is so good. When you accelerate it feels like you are going to warp speed ! The interior is so well put together with quality materials. I love my Cayman s. Previous car was an F-type which I hated.
I’ve got an Audi TT and I still love the look of the cayman. Don’t even begin to compare with with the V8 F-type though, it’s twice the price and half the fuel economy. Awesome sound with compromises!
Currently own a 981 , the BM’s , Audi’s and Jags don’t have the same prestige. The Porsche is also the most reliable car I’ve owned and in 3 years it’s hardly lost any value.
The storage was downplayed a bit too much. Many reviewers on youtube struggle to find a place for their phone or wallet, but they go perfectly in the rear door pocket that has the door that flips open. Also, the frunk combined with trunk make it able to carry plenty enough to be a viable daily driver.
fabian 78. My suggestion is get yourself a second hand 981Boxster/Cayman S or GTS and have the ecu remapped safely to 364hp, 420Nm, 0-100km/h 3.89sec. A hair trigger throttle response and sports exhaust will give you all the power and torque this chassis needs with a glorious flat 6 engine note. A cure for mid life crisis? Maybe, but you'll be laughing during and after every drive!!
Audi Audi Audi...it was the same with the RRS review....the TT is a great all weather car, I had two over the years...but soulless in my opinion..I personally would and have gone for a 2018 ex demo Lotus Evora GT410 handles even better, sounds wonderful and build quality and interior have improved dramatically in recent years..and at £65.000 K with 1500 miles and three year warranty makes me very happy
I'm going for the new Macan S with 6 cylinders and 352 bhp from 3.0L engine. Just had an invite to visit my local Porsche Centre to finalise the spec - should get the car in March/April 2019.
piperbob2 good for you mate! I can confirm that the Macan is a great care, although it might not be as attractive as the other Porsche line ups, you’ll still get some stares once in a while. Good day! :)
Man I love Porsche I wanted to get one as my next car. I test drove a Cayman GTS and it was a sweet drive. BY chance I got a really good deal on an Audi R8, so In 3 years I'm going Porsche.
Considering the new 718 leaves you wanting more in the sound department, I reckon the 981 will hold its value a lot more. Outright performance and numbers is one thing, but I believe that the sound of the engine should be a soundtrack as rewarding as the performance!
And its not like the 981 was slow !!! The PDK version could hit 60 in 4.4 secs and top speed of about 177 mph ( I think ), and where can you do those speeds nowadays anyway ?? 981`s are indeed much sought after and I think a future classic in time. I have a 987 myself.
@@daithilacha1 My 981 Cayman S had the ecu remapped to 364hp, 420Nm, 0-100km in 3.89sec. Stock air filters and exhaust manifolds with exhaust bypass exploits the hair trigger throttle response to redline with the legendary flat 6 NA engine note. So much fun at any speed and any gear. I reckon it will be a future classic.
Excellent review and thank you for acknowledging the awful sound instead of berating customers for daring to complain. I'll be waiting for the next 718 which will hopefully be a 6 pot from the GT3 (if I understand correctly).
So bored with Haymarket publications fawning over VAG products. There is no independent thinking, no analysis, just pandering to the common denominator.
Hired a 718 Cayman S from the Porsche Museum at Stuttgart a year ago for a few days, drove on the Autobahn (could never go above 220km/hr before running into traffic) to Switzerland for a few days. Drove it on the Furka, Grimsal and Gotthard passes. The car has grown in proportions in comparison to the 987 and also put on a bit of weight. So it is no longer a small nimble car the 987 was and you can feel the weight penalty. The flat spots/lag in acceleration is noticeable especially going around tight corners. I much prefer the immediacy of the NA flat six. I would rather trade the improved engine performance for it. I also prefer the smaller 987 chassis over the 981/982 chassis even though the latter looks more masculine and better proportioned over the 987 Cayman (which suffered because it wasn't designed to be a hardtop from inception but adapted from a roadster design).
Sorry to say you are wrong with the cubby space for water bottles, you have 2 big and deep cubbies behind each seat covered by a sliding door covers. So big that I have a 2 liter bottle of water in one of them and in the other one I keep all my cleaning products
Perfect car. I would only like to see a true sequential gearbox (which is kinda manual like on racing cars -- it nothing to do with PDK whatsoever or any such system on any exotic car but the new PDK is okay -- Porsche, at least corrected one thing that was wrong with old AT Porsches) one day in such a car, rather than being constrained only with Radical cars. But I wouldn't consider an H-manual stick nowadays. Although it *is* cheaper, it *is* more responsive but.... slower speed, a redundant clutch pedal, and going back to braking mostly with the right foot again - Nay, I'm not that nostalgic or that old. As to the exhaust noise -- the quieter the better! I love quiet exhaust. I don't need a GT3 R (street illegal, of course) for civil use. That's crazy. I do want some of the features of it, like a true manual sequential. But I don't need no fluff like they put on those exotic cars. I'd better go with a Spartan Radical RXC, although it's not perfect for civil use. But, I'd choose it over expensive uber cars every time without a single second thought, even if I had millions to waste. Those are just-show-off cars to me which have nothing to do with racing tracks despite their ads. That said, I have to admit they have their luxury things that should cost something. I just don't care that much about jewelry, mechanic watches (or gold watches, gold is heavy and impractical, mechanic windups go on the fritz -- the price tag doesn't matter -- it's a matter of time -- quartz watches never break down, not in 25 years of constant abuse) and show-off cars (they all have low mileages on them -- they are not that reliable despite crazy price stickers). Sorry. *This Cayman is a real deal though IMO. It's a worthy car.* PKD is bit of fluff to me. An old H-manual, well, it's kinda blast from the past -- at least in pro racing. So, it's even worse. I get it: it's just business. It's just that people need H-manuals to think they can drive race cars. Hush-hush, but they can't and never will. And this Porsche is as civil as hell, or as for a grandma. Sorry this comment is gonna be castigated, I recon, by all civil Schumackers out of hand as well as by habitue tourist sessionists on the track.
Jimmy I’ve test drove the 718 s, Boxster and cayman, on three occasions, it has not got an “monotonous” exhaust note, as described in this video, comparing a 718 to an Audi TT, sure its dropped 1 third of its engine to make room for 2 turbos but, this makes the car better in every way, including in my opinion the exhaust note. Trading my 987 Boxster S for a 718 GTS would be better than trading it inn for a GT4 or a TT
The new Porsche hierarchicy: 2.0 4 boxster 2.5 4T boxster s 2.5 4T boxster GTS 3.4 flat 6 CT4 Then you buy a 911 Fact is the old 981 was eating into 911 sales and re-alignment was necessary so that the cayman did not compete with the 911. Porsche has now fixed the problem and the cayman has taken a big hit for it.
I like the old 4 cyl Porsches, and I think this one is a great tribute to those. It is as nice a 4 cylinder sound as I have heard in many years. The only thing I would suggest changing would be to reduce power some, and concentrate on significantly improving torque. I believe some tricks can be done with the intake to accomplish that.
@Kyle Martin Own a 2017 CX-9, have owned 2013 Regal GS, Two ST185 Celicas, C230 Kompressor, AE86 Corolla, various Escorts. I was a car dealer, and additionally worked in new, used, and wholesale sales, parts dept, service department, so have driven countless others.
@Kyle Martin Roger Copy. Your 2.0T was an inline 4 (I4) and this one is horizontally opposed (H4). This is a boxer configuration, like a 911 or Boxster, only with 4 cylinders instead of 6. Totally different character. In my OP I was originally referring to cars like the 76 model 912, some of the larger displacement 914’s, and also the early racing 4 cylinder Porsches. This Cayman reminds me of those. Btw my Audis were two B2’s (81 4000 5+5 and 86 Coupe Quattro) and a C3 200 Turbo.
2W3X4YZ5 I love Porsches.. however, I love when people say they have won awards and have had 4cs when in reality never in a mass produce commercial vehicle. My guess is the new 718s will have a very high and costly depreciation curve.
So what about the drinks holders and the big front boot? Me and my missis spent a week touring around Wales and we had all the gear we needed packed into my Cayman S 987.1 And my 27mpg for the spirited driving I do from a 3.4ltr 300bhp car is good!
I agree with your comments, though the drinks holders is hardly much of an omission. I have the same car as you, and I get somewhere in the 27`s ( MPG ) 99% of the time. Trouble is, this is motorway driving, and even if I go light on the throttle, the figure barely changes. I might if I am lucky get it to 28.0 mpg, though recently, in a weird day of driving, the car hit 29.1 mpg for the first and only time !! Go figure ?? By comparison, my Audi 2 litre TDI ( 2004 ), easily gets 52-55 mph in typical 70-80 mph driving, but I can easily see 61-63 mpg on driving like Miss daisy but still moving along at 70 mph.
@@daithilacha1 seems that our cars are very typical of mpg for a Cayman S and I do think that is very good for the performance that the Cayman S is capable of. While the Audi is a nice car, it's strengths lay in a different department to the Caymans, just as my diesel van's does. The big difference is I enjoy driving my Porsche and even now it still surprises me with its capabilities, I hope that I never have to sell it as it makes me feel alive 😁
Yes John, I agree with you, though I would say comparing the quite sporty little Audi to a van is not a great comparison !! My car has the sport pack with 6 speed and lowered suspension and bigger wheels. Drives wonderfully on back roads. Actually has a little more torque than my Cayman at very low rpms, ie, under 2000, and has a firm but very comfy ride, wonderful steering and brakes. It really does amaze me at times and I have it 7.5 years now and going very strong at 135k miles. Sails through emissions tests too !! The Porsches big pluses to me is the looks and sounds. Naturally it handles amazing, and the brakes are great, but don't feel any better than the Audi to be honest. Clutch on Porsche not as progressive as Audi. I love both cars, but the big passion is for the Cayman of course.
@@daithilacha1 horses for courses, every car has areas where they lap over each other and areas where they excel beyond the reach of other cars. The times I have had 4x4's up my arse going over speed bumps and rough roads while I'm in my Cayman only for me to drive away once the road opens up. On the right road at the right time the little Cayman S can lift me to driving heaven, were everything just gells together and I actually enjoy driving again, I don't want it to end but when it does I have a big smile on my face and pat my Cayman like its my favorite pet. Truly for the money, is there a car with the full quilities of this Porsche that can deliver the full package?
I like Porsche and have owned a Boxster in the past but these 4 cylinder 718 cars don't interest me much. I do love the Macan (I own a Macan GTS as my daily) and the 911 of course but I wish they had found some way to keep the 6 cylinders in these cars.
I agree totally Matthew. I own a 2006 Cayman S 987 and the sounds from that flat six make up a lot of the Porsche driving experience. These four cylinders engines in the 781 may be powerful but have little character and sound awful to my ears, though some might like them. Probably the younger crowd who might have driven a Subaru or Impreza style car. I believe that sales are well down on the 781 model as compared to the previous 981.
What do you mean they couldn't find a way to keep the other 2 cylinders? Did a cylinder thief come and steal it? Why didn't they just continue making it? Did consumer demand a 4 instead of the 6?
maxpowers3732 in the eu Automotovr companies are taxed if their vehicles don’t meet tougher emission regulations, because the vehicles are built for Europe first then shipped over we have to suffer.
My previous car was a TT. It's a perfectly good car to drive and to be honest, 200+ bhp and front wheel drive is a very safe option and as much car as you need in the UK due to our poor roads and speed enforcement. It also beats the Porsche on tech. However, it is no match for the 718 dynamically. It doesn't even come close. If you want a nice looking 3 door coupe with some rear space for your coat, get a TT. If you want the best handling car on the road for the money, get the Porsche.
@@davepuma1537 I would agree. I mean I currently drive a mk3 TT. The 2.0 manual 230 hp. So it's front wheel drive (my only criticism is they don't do a Quattro in manual) I really wanted one of these Porsches because they're beautiful and a head turner especially in the loud sky blue they do. But seeing this video all I'm seeing is the Porsche costs a crap load more, the interior of my car is 1000% nicer and no space in it at all! The only real benefit is a few more HP rear wheel drive ...
Billy Bigboy He’s just emulating what he has heard others saying about the car. I have had the 6 cylinder and now have the 2019 Cayman with the optional sport exhaust now standard. I also have a 2018 911. I prefer the sound on start up of the Cayman over the 911.
From doing a little research I couldn't really find any common problems with it. Car reviews do mention its durability. I used to think porsche isn't great on reliability but guest it's good. Have to agree on value for money also. You can get the 981 cayman from around £30k in the UK plus insurance is surprisingly cheap where I was quoted £1380 and I'm 21 😂
Not really. There’s more Porsche heritage in a 4 than a 6 TBH. And it’s way more usable on the road. The six only sings in high revs and you’re getting a ticket if you exploit it. Unless you’re on the track.
Things that piss of Porsche owners: 4 cylinders and Subaru sound. Comparing Cayman to TT or M2. LOL.... Anyway I have a Cayman S and its a fast little car. May take it to the track this year and wring it out. In a straight line it feels almost as quick as a 996 GT3.
I've been following Doug who is a reviewer on WhatCar.com since 2015 or so. A few years now. He's NOT NEW, he's been doing video reviews for YEARS, especially a lot of the "First Look" and "Reader Review" clips which are all still online from years ago and VERY GOOD. Some of my favourites on this entire channel. He is definitely insightful.
Yes. Most people hate it, espc those used to the former models and they way they sounded. But there is a younger contingent new to these cars that love it.
No not really. You should go listen for yourself “ live”. Like most people, I’ll guess that you will like the sound in person. I know people like to rattle on about how glorious the Audi TTRS sounds, but in the end the 718 always gets picked in head to head contests. That tells you how good this new version really drives. The 718 with turbo flat 4 is a major step forward for the Cayman. The 981 may sound better for most people but the 718 is a better all around car. On the other hand you can pick up a used 981 GTS much more cheaply, it just won’t drive as well. By the way, I also have a 987 and I can’t say that sounds better than the 718. Different but not better.
Agree totally Kyle, as do most Porsche lovers. I have no idea what Juan was talking about re ``Cheap GTS`s `` ?? Huh, I have yet to see one. 981 GTS is hugely sought after and a future classic. I agree with almost everything this tester touches on. He highlights the good and bad points fairly, and you can tell he is not impressed by that engine in eithir form, despite the obvious power and torque output.
It is a seven eighteen. It has always been like that. Or am I grammatically incorrect again? Should it be 'as that?' LOL. Man, you might 'want' to read Chaucer or James Joyce (such as Finnegans Wake). That'll be some English to talk about :) That's if you will still call it English :) Thumbs up for a seven one eight! It gives solemnity to the car.
Why do some British folk insist on using the incorrect tense,"sat" with the verb 'to be' instead of sitting. Oxford may deem it informal but it is annoying to hear.
Yes, modern day slang commonly heard. Even more annoying, is the use of the word ``Floor`` to describe the ``ground``. I even hear the Brit cops saying it on the TV when dropping a suspect onto the ``Floor`` while being outside.
I'm happy with Doug and his reviews. I've been watching him for YEARS on this channel. Very insightful/thorough guy. Glad he's making more clips lately!
For that cash... You get a lotus exige s, with an already upgraded supercharged V6, exhaust and so on. That's a proper sportscar with a manual gearbox and no supported steering.
Every girl I've taken in my 718 s smiles, then giggles then breaks into uncontrollable laughter when I get the bum out a little. Does it sound like a Porsche? Maybe not a traditional 911, however I love the sound
I sent mine back to Porsche. Looks like a Mazda and has less space inside than a a min. The seats have no back supports and killed me to dive it. Engine is great but I couldn’t live with it unfortunately
So you didn't know what it looked like before you bought it? Stupid reason to return a car. Sounds more like buyer's remorse once that first car payment came out of the bank account lol.
There are three seat types and you can get 14/18 way adjustment in the sports(14) and sports plus(18). Did you try them all? I sat in all three before I decided on the manual sports plus seats. The 14 way standard sports seats gave me a sore back on a lengthy test drive but ironically the 2 way standard sports seats were okay so I can only assume that the 14 way weren't quite adjusted to my liking. I didn't want the weight or complexity of the electric seats plus they cost a fortune which I would rather spend elsewhere on PASM or 20s etc. As for looks like a Mazda, I have no idea what you're on about. The 718 in either Boxster or Cayman body styles is one of the best looking cars on the road today.
I have an older `06 Cayman S and is has manual seats. I am completely happy with this simple set up, because once I have the seat set for my dimensions, I pretty much never need to re adjust it. As you say, much rather save the money for something else. In my case that was a Capristi tunable exhaust and Eibach lowering springs. Just love this car and would never go to a four cyl cayman. That six is soulful !!
I took delivery of a new 718 Cayman in March 2019. Looks stunning and performance is good but the build quality is appalling, it's a heap of junk! It reminds me of the build quality prevalent in the 1970s. Photographs of the issues with my vehicle have been sent to Porsche who replied that they are happy with the build quality of my vehicle. I can assure you that anyone reading this who purchased my vehicle would disagree! I have lost count of the number of issues I have had with it. The after sales support is criminal, my vehicle has been in the dealer for periods exceeding a month, not only have they struggled to repair the vehicle they have also damaged the vehicle whilst in their care. I have highlighted my issues to Porsche GB and they do not want to know. Do not make the same mistake as me, do not buy a Porsche, use your hard earned cash to buy a quality brand from a reputable manufacturer with a reliable after sales network.
No...its a Tesla Model 3 Performance. Cheaper, faster, more practical, more futuristic, more environmentally friendly....basically better in all possible ways. The Porsche is an old school Nokia.
@@Alby911 This is a video about the Cayman. Tesla recently had exactly the same laptime as a Cayman GT4...clearly a faster version than this new base model. So Its safe to assume Tesla Model 3 P is faster than this new 918. Furthermore 0-60 is not even close. The Gt3RS is a pure track car, costs 5 times more and is faster. But I never mentioned this model, did I? www.motortrend.com/cars/tesla/model-3/2019/tesla-model-3-performance-track-mode-release-version-review/
I own this car, it is as close to perfection as one can get. I've even driven it at high speeds on a track with no modifications, superb.
Brilliant. What engine do you have? The entry, S or GTS?
AlphaRed28 he said in his other comment it’s the same exact one as the on in the video
@@AlphaRed28 I have the base model and I don’t take it to the track often but as a newbie and someone who doesn’t track often, even the base model is insanely good. I’ve owned the prior generations as well, all base for 987.1 and 981 models. I loved all of them but the 718 handles incredibly well and low down torque helps it’s usability in daily driving. Otherwise, I actually think the 987.1 was the most fun to drive off the track.
I own this exact car. I have also owned or driven for extended periods of time,...Audi, Mercedes, and Ferrari, to say that the Cayman 718 is superior to all of them is the understatement of the year. The car is just amazing. It's beautiful to look at, stunning in fact. And so fast, just so so fast, it's crazy. The handling can't be described it's so good. As you can tell, I love my Porsche Cayman :)
Well if I could own one, that would be great! Lol. 😝
The fellow in this video remarks that reliability was on the low end, even lower than Audi. Has that proved accurate for you? I’ve always heard that Porsche was among the most reliable of vehicles. I’m very close to specing a Cayman and this had me somewhat concerned. Please let me know of your real world experience. Thank you.
@@jonathanl2748 Reliability on the low end? Gah, never heard of such a thing. On the latest JD Power rankings, Porsche was 2nd from the top!!
@@rboddington Yeah, the fellow in the video threw me off when he said it was near the bottom in his reliability report. I’m very close to ordering a Cayman. Seems crazy to think it’ll be almost the last ones before Porsche goes all electric. I want to have a Cayman in a gasoline version. Thanks.
@@jonathanl2748 When is Porsche going all electric? I have not heard that.
People who whine like entitled spoiled kids over the 4 cylinder engines doesn't know Porsche history: 550 spyder and 356 speedster, 944 and 968 had 4 cylinder engines.
I test drove the TTRS and Cayman S. TTRS has the performance but does not feel special. Its also quite cramped. Cayman S has more of a sense of occasion and you know you're in something a little different. TTRS is a straight line projectile and tends to under steer but the Cayman is glorious in the corners. The Porsche is more of an involved drive with higher engagement. Loved the 5 cylinder on the Audi and would always pick it over a 2 litre turbo. Which is why I went for the 981.
TTRS cramped vs cayman?
Yes, go sit in one.
@@highgate14 isnt the ttrs a 2+2 seater? and the cayman is only 2?
True Peter, the TT has little seats in the rear. However the cockpit space is very compact whereas the Cayman's is more spacious.
@@highgate14 tq:)
I’m so glad you made this video! I’ve been strongly consider a 718 cayman S for a while now. This really helps!
Yes, this was a very insightful clip. I liked Doug's review a lot.
Helps me get a 981 GTS
If you get a chance to drive a Cayman jump at the chance, The driving experience is awesome. It sticks to the road the chassis is so good. When you accelerate it feels like you are going to warp speed ! The interior is so well put together with quality materials. I love my Cayman s. Previous car was an F-type which I hated.
Why did you hate the F-type?
I’ve got an Audi TT and I still love the look of the cayman. Don’t even begin to compare with with the V8 F-type though, it’s twice the price and half the fuel economy. Awesome sound with compromises!
Currently own a 981 , the BM’s , Audi’s and Jags don’t have the same prestige. The Porsche is also the most reliable car I’ve owned and in 3 years it’s hardly lost any value.
why didn't you show the 'frunk'?! that increases its practicality?
Was thinking the same thing. All that talk about not much storage and didn't show the biggest storage area in the whole car.
What about the 2 cubbies on sides of engine? They're large enough for that bottle of water.
It also appears that he was unaware of the two concealed swing-out drink holders above the glove box.
Because it didnt fit with his narrative of trying to sell us an inferior Audi TT.
The storage was downplayed a bit too much. Many reviewers on youtube struggle to find a place for their phone or wallet, but they go perfectly in the rear door pocket that has the door that flips open. Also, the frunk combined with trunk make it able to carry plenty enough to be a viable daily driver.
I thought it was a informative and articulate review. Well done sir
Mine is arriving end of this month. Can't wait
I love this car! It’ll be perfect to heal my first mid life crisis ...
I'm expected to hit mine by the time my A3 lease is over. Getting this for sure!
fabian 78.
My suggestion is get yourself a second hand 981Boxster/Cayman S or GTS and have the ecu remapped safely to 364hp, 420Nm, 0-100km/h 3.89sec. A hair trigger throttle response and sports exhaust will give you all the power and torque this chassis needs with a glorious flat 6 engine note. A cure for mid life crisis? Maybe, but you'll be laughing during and after every drive!!
J D power have porsche 2nd most reliable, so not sure where what car gets its figures from...
YES! My top reviewer on WhatCar is back. Glad to see more of Doug. Very informative clip too. Gave this a thumbs up. Keep it coming :)
I miss my 2012 Cayman S. I've never missed any car before.
Audi Audi Audi...it was the same with the RRS review....the TT is a great all weather car, I had two over the years...but soulless in my opinion..I personally would and have gone for a 2018 ex demo Lotus Evora GT410 handles even better, sounds wonderful and build quality and interior have improved dramatically in recent years..and at £65.000 K with 1500 miles and three year warranty makes me very happy
Good video... I like this lad’s reviews :) cool to see Mr. Revolta on the whatcar lineup. Just subscribed.
I'm going for the new Macan S with 6 cylinders and 352 bhp from 3.0L engine. Just had an invite to visit my local Porsche Centre to finalise the spec - should get the car in March/April 2019.
Why do you think we care? I go shopping at Sainsbury’s - so what?
Who actually cares...?
piperbob2 I had an 15 Macan S before buying a 981 GTS. I love the Macan S ... great car!
@@kylemartin6448 Thanks, Kyle - great to know !
piperbob2 good for you mate! I can confirm that the Macan is a great care, although it might not be as attractive as the other Porsche line ups, you’ll still get some stares once in a while. Good day! :)
Man I love Porsche I wanted to get one as my next car. I test drove a Cayman GTS and it was a sweet drive. BY chance I got a really good deal on an Audi R8, so In 3 years I'm going Porsche.
Considering the new 718 leaves you wanting more in the sound department, I reckon the 981 will hold its value a lot more. Outright performance and numbers is one thing, but I believe that the sound of the engine should be a soundtrack as rewarding as the performance!
And its not like the 981 was slow !!! The PDK version could hit 60 in 4.4 secs and top speed of about 177 mph ( I think ), and where can you do those speeds nowadays anyway ?? 981`s are indeed much sought after and I think a future classic in time. I have a 987 myself.
I added a Fabspeed exhaust to mine and it has definitely made the difference.
@@daithilacha1 My 981 Cayman S had the ecu remapped to 364hp, 420Nm, 0-100km in 3.89sec. Stock air filters and exhaust manifolds with exhaust bypass exploits the hair trigger throttle response to redline with the legendary flat 6 NA engine note. So much fun at any speed and any gear. I reckon it will be a future classic.
@@rossyannis3000 Sounds savage. Deffo a future classic. Love those flat sixes.
@@daithilacha1 The 987 and 981 are old cars now. Way behind in technology.
You didn’t show the front trunk/boot. It’s really useful.
Looks really good in red, what a great looking car.
How many times did he mention Audi TT?
Yeah. Fuck the TT. It's a woman's car. They need their big water bottle holders.
Excellent review and thank you for acknowledging the awful sound instead of berating customers for daring to complain. I'll be waiting for the next 718 which will hopefully be a 6 pot from the GT3 (if I understand correctly).
lapamful sure you will..lol
Poster or model? Hmm
So bored with Haymarket publications fawning over VAG products.
There is no independent thinking, no analysis, just pandering to the common denominator.
Hired a 718 Cayman S from the Porsche Museum at Stuttgart a year ago for a few days, drove on the Autobahn (could never go above 220km/hr before running into traffic) to Switzerland for a few days. Drove it on the Furka, Grimsal and Gotthard passes. The car has grown in proportions in comparison to the 987 and also put on a bit of weight. So it is no longer a small nimble car the 987 was and you can feel the weight penalty. The flat spots/lag in acceleration is noticeable especially going around tight corners. I much prefer the immediacy of the NA flat six. I would rather trade the improved engine performance for it. I also prefer the smaller 987 chassis over the 981/982 chassis even though the latter looks more masculine and better proportioned over the 987 Cayman (which suffered because it wasn't designed to be a hardtop from inception but adapted from a roadster design).
Sorry to say you are wrong with the cubby space for water bottles, you have 2 big and deep cubbies behind each seat covered by a sliding door covers. So big that I have a 2 liter bottle of water in one of them and in the other one I keep all my cleaning products
The S can hit 60 in 4.1 and the GTS can do it in 3.7 (PDK)
how is the Audi TT more practical when the cayman/Boxster has 2 boots and 100+ litres more luggage space?
Only thing also I could think about is the back tight seats on the TT
Perfect car. I would only like to see a true sequential gearbox (which is kinda manual like on racing cars -- it nothing to do with PDK whatsoever or any such system on any exotic car but the new PDK is okay -- Porsche, at least corrected one thing that was wrong with old AT Porsches) one day in such a car, rather than being constrained only with Radical cars. But I wouldn't consider an H-manual stick nowadays. Although it *is* cheaper, it *is* more responsive but.... slower speed, a redundant clutch pedal, and going back to braking mostly with the right foot again - Nay, I'm not that nostalgic or that old. As to the exhaust noise -- the quieter the better! I love quiet exhaust. I don't need a GT3 R (street illegal, of course) for civil use. That's crazy. I do want some of the features of it, like a true manual sequential. But I don't need no fluff like they put on those exotic cars. I'd better go with a Spartan Radical RXC, although it's not perfect for civil use. But, I'd choose it over expensive uber cars every time without a single second thought, even if I had millions to waste. Those are just-show-off cars to me which have nothing to do with racing tracks despite their ads. That said, I have to admit they have their luxury things that should cost something. I just don't care that much about jewelry, mechanic watches (or gold watches, gold is heavy and impractical, mechanic windups go on the fritz -- the price tag doesn't matter -- it's a matter of time -- quartz watches never break down, not in 25 years of constant abuse) and show-off cars (they all have low mileages on them -- they are not that reliable despite crazy price stickers). Sorry. *This Cayman is a real deal though IMO. It's a worthy car.* PKD is bit of fluff to me. An old H-manual, well, it's kinda blast from the past -- at least in pro racing. So, it's even worse. I get it: it's just business. It's just that people need H-manuals to think they can drive race cars. Hush-hush, but they can't and never will. And this Porsche is as civil as hell, or as for a grandma. Sorry this comment is gonna be castigated, I recon, by all civil Schumackers out of hand as well as by habitue tourist sessionists on the track.
A bit premature with the GTS comments, the new 4.0 2020 model is just announced, and its back to N/A 6 cylinders, thank god.
Good lord! This guy could talk me sleep.
Very true
I bought a 718 Boxster because having the roof down is such a huge advantage.
Advantage in what way?
@1971bestia my bad. How'd I miss the dopeness?
Totally wrong about the exhaust note, this car is as good, if not better than the flat 6
Maybe better than a flat six ?? Don't make me laugh. I agree that some like it, but most don't care for that sound at all.
Jimmy I’ve test drove the 718 s, Boxster and cayman, on three occasions, it has not got an “monotonous” exhaust note, as described in this video, comparing a 718 to an Audi TT, sure its dropped 1 third of its engine to make room for 2 turbos but, this makes the car better in every way, including in my opinion the exhaust note. Trading my 987 Boxster S for a 718 GTS would be better than trading it inn for a GT4 or a TT
The new Porsche hierarchicy:
2.0 4 boxster
2.5 4T boxster s
2.5 4T boxster GTS
3.4 flat 6 CT4
Then you buy a 911
Fact is the old 981 was eating into 911 sales and re-alignment was necessary so that the cayman did not compete with the 911. Porsche has now fixed the problem and the cayman has taken a big hit for it.
Exactly !!
I agree, that’s why I stick with my 981S
@@V1RT8 Gorgeous car. What colour ??
I like the old 4 cyl Porsches, and I think this one is a great tribute to those. It is as nice a 4 cylinder sound as I have heard in many years. The only thing I would suggest changing would be to reduce power some, and concentrate on significantly improving torque. I believe some tricks can be done with the intake to accomplish that.
2W3X4YZ5 what 4s have you owned? Hmmm
@Kyle Martin Own a 2017 CX-9, have owned 2013 Regal GS, Two ST185 Celicas, C230 Kompressor, AE86 Corolla, various Escorts. I was a car dealer, and additionally worked in new, used, and wholesale sales, parts dept, service department, so have driven countless others.
2W3X4YZ5 I had an A5 2.0T ... not ever close to.a 718. I’m not even a fan of the 718. Those comparisons simply do not compare.
@Kyle Martin Roger Copy. Your 2.0T was an inline 4 (I4) and this one is horizontally opposed (H4). This is a boxer configuration, like a 911 or Boxster, only with 4 cylinders instead of 6. Totally different character. In my OP I was originally referring to cars like the 76 model 912, some of the larger displacement 914’s, and also the early racing 4 cylinder Porsches. This Cayman reminds me of those. Btw my Audis were two B2’s (81 4000 5+5 and 86 Coupe Quattro) and a C3 200 Turbo.
2W3X4YZ5 I love Porsches.. however, I love when people say they have won awards and have had 4cs when in reality never in a mass produce commercial vehicle. My guess is the new 718s will have a very high and costly depreciation curve.
Porsche GT4 or GTS?
GT4 but its manuel so depents on what you want.
So what about the drinks holders and the big front boot?
Me and my missis spent a week touring around Wales and we had all the gear we needed packed into my Cayman S 987.1
And my 27mpg for the spirited driving I do from a 3.4ltr 300bhp car is good!
I agree with your comments, though the drinks holders is hardly much of an omission. I have the same car as you, and I get somewhere in the 27`s ( MPG ) 99% of the time. Trouble is, this is motorway driving, and even if I go light on the throttle, the figure barely changes. I might if I am lucky get it to 28.0 mpg, though recently, in a weird day of driving, the car hit 29.1 mpg for the first and only time !! Go figure ?? By comparison, my Audi 2 litre TDI ( 2004 ), easily gets 52-55 mph in typical 70-80 mph driving, but I can easily see 61-63 mpg on driving like Miss daisy but still moving along at 70 mph.
@@daithilacha1 seems that our cars are very typical of mpg for a Cayman S and I do think that is very good for the performance that the Cayman S is capable of.
While the Audi is a nice car, it's strengths lay in a different department to the Caymans, just as my diesel van's does.
The big difference is I enjoy driving my Porsche and even now it still surprises me with its capabilities, I hope that I never have to sell it as it makes me feel alive 😁
Yes John, I agree with you, though I would say comparing the quite sporty little Audi to a van is not a great comparison !! My car has the sport pack with 6 speed and lowered suspension and bigger wheels. Drives wonderfully on back roads. Actually has a little more torque than my Cayman at very low rpms, ie, under 2000, and has a firm but very comfy ride, wonderful steering and brakes. It really does amaze me at times and I have it 7.5 years now and going very strong at 135k miles. Sails through emissions tests too !! The Porsches big pluses to me is the looks and sounds. Naturally it handles amazing, and the brakes are great, but don't feel any better than the Audi to be honest. Clutch on Porsche not as progressive as Audi. I love both cars, but the big passion is for the Cayman of course.
@@daithilacha1 horses for courses, every car has areas where they lap over each other and areas where they excel beyond the reach of other cars.
The times I have had 4x4's up my arse going over speed bumps and rough roads while I'm in my Cayman only for me to drive away once the road opens up.
On the right road at the right time the little Cayman S can lift me to driving heaven, were everything just gells together and I actually enjoy driving again, I don't want it to end but when it does I have a big smile on my face and pat my Cayman like its my favorite pet.
Truly for the money, is there a car with the full quilities of this Porsche that can deliver the full package?
I like Porsche and have owned a Boxster in the past but these 4 cylinder 718 cars don't interest me much. I do love the Macan (I own a Macan GTS as my daily) and the 911 of course but I wish they had found some way to keep the 6 cylinders in these cars.
I agree totally Matthew. I own a 2006 Cayman S 987 and the sounds from that flat six make up a lot of the Porsche driving experience. These four cylinders engines in the 781 may be powerful but have little character and sound awful to my ears, though some might like them. Probably the younger crowd who might have driven a Subaru or Impreza style car. I believe that sales are well down on the 781 model as compared to the previous 981.
What do you mean they couldn't find a way to keep the other 2 cylinders? Did a cylinder thief come and steal it? Why didn't they just continue making it? Did consumer demand a 4 instead of the 6?
@@maxpowers3732 Emission regulations.
@@nightwing09x Did a lot of Cayman owners ask for the emission regulations? How can you repeal them?
maxpowers3732 in the eu Automotovr companies are taxed if their vehicles don’t meet tougher emission regulations, because the vehicles are built for Europe first then shipped over we have to suffer.
Thorough analysis, but Chris Harris he ain't.
touchscreen/nav a little easier to use than audi mmi? porsche system looks about 10 years old.
Sounded more like an advert for an Audi TT
My previous car was a TT. It's a perfectly good car to drive and to be honest, 200+ bhp and front wheel drive is a very safe option and as much car as you need in the UK due to our poor roads and speed enforcement. It also beats the Porsche on tech. However, it is no match for the 718 dynamically. It doesn't even come close. If you want a nice looking 3 door coupe with some rear space for your coat, get a TT. If you want the best handling car on the road for the money, get the Porsche.
@@davepuma1537 I would agree. I mean I currently drive a mk3 TT. The 2.0 manual 230 hp. So it's front wheel drive (my only criticism is they don't do a Quattro in manual) I really wanted one of these Porsches because they're beautiful and a head turner especially in the loud sky blue they do. But seeing this video all I'm seeing is the Porsche costs a crap load more, the interior of my car is 1000% nicer and no space in it at all! The only real benefit is a few more HP rear wheel drive ...
How would he know if it's lost it's magic from the 6 to the 4 looks like his last ride was a Silver Cross pram
Billy Bigboy He’s just emulating what he has heard others saying about the car. I have had the 6 cylinder and now have the 2019 Cayman with the optional sport exhaust now standard. I also have a 2018 911. I prefer the sound on start up of the Cayman over the 911.
blueberrycobbler if you really believe that you obviously have never started a 911..embarrassing
I love the value for money this car has. Only concern I have is its reliability and how expensive future repairs may be.
From doing a little research I couldn't really find any common problems with it. Car reviews do mention its durability. I used to think porsche isn't great on reliability but guest it's good. Have to agree on value for money also. You can get the 981 cayman from around £30k in the UK plus insurance is surprisingly cheap where I was quoted £1380 and I'm 21 😂
@@zaink7037 The 981 is an old car. At that age it will cost you money. Thats why they are cheap to buy.
The 6 to 4 thing is a tragedy but... I guess it'll make a good first car, not too crazy.
Not really. There’s more Porsche heritage in a 4 than a 6 TBH. And it’s way more usable on the road. The six only sings in high revs and you’re getting a ticket if you exploit it. Unless you’re on the track.
Comparing a Porsche to an Audi TT mmmmm........
They come from the same parent company
TTRS, same price bracket and similar performance.
Things that piss of Porsche owners: 4 cylinders and Subaru sound. Comparing Cayman to TT or M2. LOL.... Anyway I have a Cayman S and its a fast little car. May take it to the track this year and wring it out. In a straight line it feels almost as quick as a 996 GT3.
@@NAVMAN987 Exactly I certainly wouldn't compare it an Audi TT.
joe bloggs hehe 😃 Porsche >>>>>>>>>>>> Audi Thats a fact!
How old is this child.? 17...what experience and real world depth of knowledge can he possibly bring..
Seems to a be a trend to introduce 'reviewers' who are barely out of nappies, can read a script, but have little or no driving experience.
I've been following Doug who is a reviewer on WhatCar.com since 2015 or so. A few years now. He's NOT NEW, he's been doing video reviews for YEARS, especially a lot of the "First Look" and "Reader Review" clips which are all still online from years ago and VERY GOOD. Some of my favourites on this entire channel. He is definitely insightful.
Agree MjG, he is excellent indeed, and covers all the relevant points in an informative and friendly manner.
Is the four cylinder sounds are really a problem ?
Yes. Most people hate it, espc those used to the former models and they way they sounded. But there is a younger contingent new to these cars that love it.
No not really. You should go listen for yourself “ live”. Like most people, I’ll guess that you will like the sound in person. I know people like to rattle on about how glorious the Audi TTRS sounds, but in the end the 718 always gets picked in head to head contests. That tells you how good this new version really drives. The 718 with turbo flat 4 is a major step forward for the Cayman. The 981 may sound better for most people but the 718 is a better all around car. On the other hand you can pick up a used 981 GTS much more cheaply, it just won’t drive as well. By the way, I also have a 987 and I can’t say that sounds better than the 718. Different but not better.
Yes... 981 GTS is a totally different and much better experience
Agree totally Kyle, as do most Porsche lovers. I have no idea what Juan was talking about re ``Cheap GTS`s `` ?? Huh, I have yet to see one. 981 GTS is hugely sought after and a future classic. I agree with almost everything this tester touches on. He highlights the good and bad points fairly, and you can tell he is not impressed by that engine in eithir form, despite the obvious power and torque output.
We will have to agree to disagree on this one Juan. Other than the engine, I love everything else about the 781. Looks, handling, Interior etc....
monotonous engine drone, not my experience and i’ve owned 997s and 991s. don’t believe the journalists hackneyed comments
Stop calling it “seven eighteen”! Pronounce it as “seven one eight” which is grammatically correct!
Porsche Nine Eleven anyone?
It is a seven eighteen. It has always been like that. Or am I grammatically incorrect again? Should it be 'as that?' LOL. Man, you might 'want' to read Chaucer or James Joyce (such as Finnegans Wake). That'll be some English to talk about :) That's if you will still call it English :) Thumbs up for a seven one eight! It gives solemnity to the car.
Best 4Zylinder on Planet
Why do some British folk insist on using the incorrect tense,"sat" with the verb 'to be' instead of sitting. Oxford may deem it informal but it is annoying to hear.
Yes, modern day slang commonly heard. Even more annoying, is the use of the word ``Floor`` to describe the ``ground``. I even hear the Brit cops saying it on the TV when dropping a suspect onto the ``Floor`` while being outside.
Who's this bloke? And where's our Rebecca?
I'm happy with Doug and his reviews. I've been watching him for YEARS on this channel. Very insightful/thorough guy. Glad he's making more clips lately!
@@mjg239 you are right, I too have been watching him for years and am delighted with his progress and contributions.
Rebecca was pregnant with Dougs child at the time, they are a couple
For that cash... You get a lotus exige s, with an already upgraded supercharged V6, exhaust and so on.
That's a proper sportscar with a manual gearbox and no supported steering.
I hope I can buy this car
Move on mate...technology will never stay the same and why when people review cars always try to compare what they review with the Audi.
Sponsored by Audi?
My son owned an Audi TT v6, he had to give it away due to their common timing change engine problem, awful cars!
Bring De Muro, at least he has an opinion.
There actually is enough space for big bottles in the doors! You have to open the bigger storage pockets
So your review of the Porsche is you saying it’s worse than an Audi...
Ended up, with an Audi A6 TDI 40, close enough!
I needed up with a Toyota Camry, killingstone2
get help
No manual transmission available for the Audi so the Cayman wins by default
You're wrong to pit this car against the M2. Think back to when these cars were launched, it's nature compeitior are the Z4 and SLK.
I had an M2 and now buying a 718 Cayman, my other option as waiting for the new M2 Comp… so I think it’s fair enough as both are sports cars ~£50k
Please stop driving in public roads and stare at the camera. It is not professional to do such dangerous behavior and raining nonetheless.
Great car, dreadful sound. No thanks...
You nailed it Okey.
Yeah, I think Toyota Supra got this one in the bag.
no room for skis? deal breaker
Every girl I've taken in my 718 s smiles, then giggles then breaks into uncontrollable laughter when I get the bum out a little. Does it sound like a Porsche? Maybe not a traditional 911, however I love the sound
Maybe not a traditional Cayman too !!!
cayman or M4?
LOFT.YI cayman
Song name at the beginning? 🤔
I sent mine back to Porsche. Looks like a Mazda and has less space inside than a a min. The seats have no back supports and killed me to dive it. Engine is great but I couldn’t live with it unfortunately
Looks like a Mazda ??? You got to be joking. No Mazda looks nearly this good.
So you didn't know what it looked like before you bought it? Stupid reason to return a car. Sounds more like buyer's remorse once that first car payment came out of the bank account lol.
There are three seat types and you can get 14/18 way adjustment in the sports(14) and sports plus(18). Did you try them all? I sat in all three before I decided on the manual sports plus seats. The 14 way standard sports seats gave me a sore back on a lengthy test drive but ironically the 2 way standard sports seats were okay so I can only assume that the 14 way weren't quite adjusted to my liking. I didn't want the weight or complexity of the electric seats plus they cost a fortune which I would rather spend elsewhere on PASM or 20s etc. As for looks like a Mazda, I have no idea what you're on about. The 718 in either Boxster or Cayman body styles is one of the best looking cars on the road today.
I have an older `06 Cayman S and is has manual seats. I am completely happy with this simple set up, because once I have the seat set for my dimensions, I pretty much never need to re adjust it. As you say, much rather save the money for something else. In my case that was a Capristi tunable exhaust and Eibach lowering springs. Just love this car and would never go to a four cyl cayman. That six is soulful !!
Just 28 mpg? Go ride bicycle
Exactly
now when it has a 4 cyl the best roadster is jaguar f type v6
Porsche make the most profit because mugs buy them. Steering wheel sir - that's an extra.
Nice car but I'd rather have a TT RS
I am sure it gets you to your hairdresser quickly
@@alanwayte432 Had to laugh so hard😂 I have a friend with a tt whos realy like that
Audi TT is so ug
you should review the base not the GTS. if you're gonna talk about GTS then say so in your title. unsub now
It looks similar to ferrari
Water bottles? WGAS.
So just buy an Audi TT then?
but the TT is FWD biased
Have you tried being original in your review? Giving something to the viewers other than what you’ve learnt by watching other videos?
I thought it was a terrific review covering all the good and bad points in my opinion.
I took delivery of a new 718 Cayman in March 2019. Looks stunning and performance is good but the build quality is appalling, it's a heap of junk! It reminds me of the build quality prevalent in the 1970s. Photographs of the issues with my vehicle have been sent to Porsche who replied that they are happy with the build quality of my vehicle. I can assure you that anyone reading this who purchased my vehicle would disagree! I have lost count of the number of issues I have had with it. The after sales support is criminal, my vehicle has been in the dealer for periods exceeding a month, not only have they struggled to repair the vehicle they have also damaged the vehicle whilst in their care. I have highlighted my issues to Porsche GB and they do not want to know. Do not make the same mistake as me, do not buy a Porsche, use your hard earned cash to buy a quality brand from a reputable manufacturer with a reliable after sales network.
Way too expensive...
Too expensive for you.
My dream car and millionaires out there want to buy me one please lol
Buy a VW golf R instead lol.
How to read Dummies Guide to Car Journalism and then record a UA-cam video..
It's a waste of money, I'd rather buy tsla shares ...
LOL. You don't buy a Porsche if you're a broke fool to begin with.
bongmist right? Lol
Mushtang gt is better than this..
The fact that you can't even spell "Mustang" correctly tells me about all I need to know about this opinion.
How can you compare a trashy primitive Mustang to a Porsche!🤣
“Mushtang”. Enough said.
Tesla Model 3 Performance is better
But who wants an ugly tesla 😂
Negative my friend.
Tesla's are ugly.
No...its a Tesla Model 3 Performance. Cheaper, faster, more practical, more futuristic, more environmentally friendly....basically better in all possible ways. The Porsche is an old school Nokia.
Delusions of grandeur. Porsche GT2RS is the fastest car on the ring, your precious Tesla is junk.
What a banana ...
@@Alby911 This is a video about the Cayman. Tesla recently had exactly the same laptime as a Cayman GT4...clearly a faster version than this new base model. So Its safe to assume Tesla Model 3 P is faster than this new 918. Furthermore 0-60 is not even close. The Gt3RS is a pure track car, costs 5 times more and is faster. But I never mentioned this model, did I? www.motortrend.com/cars/tesla/model-3/2019/tesla-model-3-performance-track-mode-release-version-review/
Cold weather will killl Tesla range by 30% or more ... enjoy that new battery’s
@@dpie4859 Tesla's are ugly