I honestly do not know what are her possible weaknesses. Most notably, He Xiangu is consistently described as a moral exemplar who is given immortality as a reward for her selfless conduct (though the moral standards vary depending on the prevalence given to Confucian versus Daoist precepts). Also, her femininity is emphasized (whether it be through a vow of chastity, depictions of her beauty or simply through descriptions of her proper "daughterly" conduct)-a fact that likely emerges from the dearth of positive female role-models within the Daoist pantheon. Given her gender, it is not surprising that He Xiangu is seen as the patron of women-especially of women seeking religious truth (limited though their options were in historic China). However, she is rarely (if ever) venerated or worshiped in absentia (i.e. without the other immortals).
The western equivalent would be an adept, in modern times the word is misused to mean anyone who has mastered any skill but the original meaning was someone who had successfully completed the great work which is the making of the alchemical elixir which transmutes the ordinary human into the rank of adepthood
Hi, I'm doing some research on He Xiangu, do you know some works (English or chinese) that can help me understand her (and her place as the only female) ? Thank you very much :)
Taoist originate from China, all these immortals, deities are taoism. Buddhism originate from India. Later Buddhism became extremely popular in China and the two myth get combined together where individual from these two recognize each another. The one that are here is Taoist
@@HakkaMoi 'Mythical Bird' or 'Prestigious Bird' english-speakers mistakenly use 'phoenix', which is totally different, and already exists in Greek mythology. Even in movie Mulan, he says that she should be like the phoenix and rise from the ashes! It's ok to use the word phoenix, but you have to not forget there are two different phoenix birds - one from greek, one from china.
@@HakkaMoi :) I liked your video - and you said lots of things that were correct. It's only worth pointing out things that are wrong - the rest of the information is what I came looking for, so thanks. The Phoenix, in reality, is just the Dragon - it is the dragon which represents that position of power; just convention has made the phoenix be used for females, to differentiate. But, originally, it was the dragon, regardless of gender - the Phoenix is its own thing, and has been around, I believe according to what has been discovered so far, around 7000 years.
@@HakkaMoi I will watch more of your videos, by the way - I liked this one and it had good information. I really got a clear grip on the development of the fable. It's funny, because I didn't realise the 8 immortals was so recent, seeing as they are so tied into Taoism. There are two Taoisms: there is the philosophical system, which has had the divination [trigrams] added into it; then, there are all the mythical beasts, ceremonies and fortune-telling {like throwing the cresent sticks} bizzarely added in. All the 'crazy' stuff, even though colourful and interesting, are causing taoism to die out, i mean, why does Taoism need temples?? It is a book to be read at home, once in your life.
Awesome. Thanks ❤
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I'm making a character card for her. Can I ask what is He Xiangu's weakness(es)? thank you! your response will help me a lot!
I honestly do not know what are her possible weaknesses.
Most notably, He Xiangu is consistently described as a moral exemplar who is given immortality as a reward for her selfless conduct (though the moral standards vary depending on the prevalence given to Confucian versus Daoist precepts). Also, her femininity is emphasized (whether it be through a vow of chastity, depictions of her beauty or simply through descriptions of her proper "daughterly" conduct)-a fact that likely emerges from the dearth of positive female role-models within the Daoist pantheon.
Given her gender, it is not surprising that He Xiangu is seen as the patron of women-especially of women seeking religious truth (limited though their options were in historic China). However, she is rarely (if ever) venerated or worshiped in absentia (i.e. without the other immortals).
@@HakkaMoi thank you!
@@byaya.2983 I hope it helps!
The western equivalent would be an adept, in modern times the word is misused to mean anyone who has mastered any skill but the original meaning was someone who had successfully completed the great work which is the making of the alchemical elixir which transmutes the ordinary human into the rank of adepthood
How interesting!! Thank you for this valuable insight 🙏🏼
Hi, I'm doing some research on He Xiangu, do you know some works (English or chinese) that can help me understand her (and her place as the only female) ? Thank you very much :)
Have you tried looking on Academia? Are you after documents of her life and her role within the pantheon of immortals?
海棠粉。
All these gods are they Taoist or Buddhism in the first place ?
Which deities are you referring to?
Taoist pantheon has a wider more 'colourful' spectrum of deities.
Taoist originate from China, all these immortals, deities are taoism.
Buddhism originate from India. Later Buddhism became extremely popular in China and the two myth get combined together where individual from these two recognize each another.
The one that are here is Taoist
Sis, Is 女娘娘 Nv Niang Niang and何仙姑 He Xian Gu the same? xiexie
NV Niang Niang? What is her full name please? Which 娘娘 are you comparing 何仙姑 to?
@@HakkaMoi in Indonesia called Lu Niu Niu or 女娘娘 :)
@@sofialee21 Lu Niu Niu might be a locality deity. I'll look into it further.
@@HakkaMoi thank you Sister :)
@@sofialee21 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Powdered mica? Lol probably still safer than their baby milk formulas I guess ;)
Maybe Australian baby formulas were not so accessible than??!!
@@HakkaMoi lol true
雲母粉。
The phoenix in china didn't rise from the ashes - that is the phoenix in greek mythology.
Thank you for the heads up.
How would you describe the feng huang in your own words?
@@HakkaMoi 'Mythical Bird' or 'Prestigious Bird' english-speakers mistakenly use 'phoenix', which is totally different, and already exists in Greek mythology. Even in movie Mulan, he says that she should be like the phoenix and rise from the ashes! It's ok to use the word phoenix, but you have to not forget there are two different phoenix birds - one from greek, one from china.
@@beautifulmotivationvideos I did mention 'Sometimes she is accompanied by the Fenghuang a mythical bird that was said to reign over all birds.'
@@HakkaMoi :) I liked your video - and you said lots of things that were correct. It's only worth pointing out things that are wrong - the rest of the information is what I came looking for, so thanks. The Phoenix, in reality, is just the Dragon - it is the dragon which represents that position of power; just convention has made the phoenix be used for females, to differentiate. But, originally, it was the dragon, regardless of gender - the Phoenix is its own thing, and has been around, I believe according to what has been discovered so far, around 7000 years.
@@HakkaMoi I will watch more of your videos, by the way - I liked this one and it had good information. I really got a clear grip on the development of the fable. It's funny, because I didn't realise the 8 immortals was so recent, seeing as they are so tied into Taoism. There are two Taoisms: there is the philosophical system, which has had the divination [trigrams] added into it; then, there are all the mythical beasts, ceremonies and fortune-telling {like throwing the cresent sticks} bizzarely added in. All the 'crazy' stuff, even though colourful and interesting, are causing taoism to die out, i mean, why does Taoism need temples?? It is a book to be read at home, once in your life.