I went out and cloned a few of mine using honey as soon as you posted this. They all rooted and I now have more yellow pear tomatoes than I'll ever know what to do with. Thank you!
I love this! I love it when regular people do experiments and show that sometimes advertised products are not as good as they claim to be. I look forward to more videos like this
Very interesting, and thank you! However, cloning gives you a copy of the original plant. If you rather mark the first tomatoes that ripen, wait until last before picking them, and then take the seeds from them, you get a new generation that has proved that it has the best genes to grow in your specific environment. After a few years/generations you'll get plants that are more and more adjusted to your specific environment. I'm into the 30th generation of homegrown tomatoes that way and now have seeds that produce plants that not only can withstand the cold (I'm at latitude 58) better than any other that I've tried, but also ripen more than a month faster. Just a tip to y'all if you care to wait 30 years... :)
Could you clarify the wait until last to pick them part. Leave them on the vine til the plant is done then pick and save the seeds sacrificing being able to eat the fruit ?
@@markmason3535 Oh, I definitely want the fruit to be edible when I pick it. If you wait too long after that, you can't be sure what happens with the seeds.
Nice experiment. This year i didnt bother rooting them before i put them in soil. Tomato suckers in a 7 cm pot with potting mix, roots out bottom in less than 12 days
Great experiment. I have cloned tomato directly in compost mix for seedlings soil or light mix using Clonex and even using nothing at all and have nearly 100 percent success rate.
Thanks Rocky USA for the comment, I appreciate it. I was also surprised, I expected the Clonex to be the winner of course. Maybe it works on other plants, I've heard people have success cloning rose bushes with the Clonex, maybe I'll try that some day. So many things to try.....thanks again for the feedback!
@@TikkiOOO So I broke down and ordered seeds from Internet and Rockwool method 6 fails. Should I try cotton balls, or cotton tissue? I've heard paper towels rip the roots more. Any suggestions I'm getting 😓 Thanks Tikki and be well, George
Well, I'll be putting off buying Clonex! Thanks for this experiment. I do have a question. Do you know why some of the leaves in the honey and cinnamon ones were discolored?
I ended up trimming those discolored leaves and the plants are doing great! Why they discolored, I'm not sure....someone in the comments suggested using "TakeRoot" instead of Clonex, I haven't tried that. Thanks for the comment!
Cool! I did a similar experiment involving garlic powder and onion powder. I forget which had the better results but they both worked better than the control and traditional rooting powder.
I would suspect the honey and cinnamon did better due to lacto bacilli from the air but what's really interesting is the difference in the root structures between them. I would suspect that's due to the additional strains of lactobacilli in the honey...very interesting...I know the curd from cultured milk that is made per the KNF LABS instructions comes out extremely smooth if you add honey. And it's actually an excellent alternative to mayonnaise - not to mention, chock full of probiotics! So win and win!
Last year I started hydroponic kratky boxes out side as an experiment. Tomatoes and peppers loved it. Zucchini and honey dew worked well also. Corn, not so much, and had a few other failures. Tomato plants I had in the ground, of course I always pinch off the suckers. A couple of plants I missed some suckers on them, and by the time I noticed them, they were large branches. Cut them off with scissors, and replaced the failed plants in the kratky boxes. Figured the worst that could happen was they didn't grow. At the end of the growing season, those "suckers" grew tall and proud, and had better yields than the same plants in dirt. Nothing special, no clonex or any other rooting agent, just the 2 part Masterblend hydroponic solution that had already been added to the boxes. I have since expanded on my outdoor kratky boxes for this year. Last year I had 4, 11gal boxes, with 2 or 4 holes cut in the lids (2 for tomatoes, 4 for everything else). This year I have those, again, and added 10, 27gal boxes to them, each of the 27 gal boxes have 8 holes cut in the lids. Mostly tomatoes and peppers
Have you tried using miracle grow in the water? I am trying that now. Have you ever tried to root tomato limbs...not the suckers? I have had a problem with blight. I was told it starts with dirt splashing on the leaves so I cut off limbs close to the ground. I wonder if I can root them. Most people cut off suckers. The limb beside a sucker typically grows down. What would happen if I cut the limb and leave the sucker? Thanks.
I cut some leafs off my plants and dropped them in the soil under and a leaf started rooting.. so crazy I was not even trying to root anything just chop and drop… but yeah I’m curious to see what it does. But personally I don’t like rooting into water for most things I like using moist soil. Less rot I have noticed for me at least. Though where I live it stays suer humid so maybe that is why.
Disappointing to see the (non-trivially costing) Clonex put out such poor results in this sample. But very nice to see the (more trivial costing) honey do so well. I have to try this for myself when I do my next cuttings. I wonder if the Clonex works best with cuttings from certain types of plants, but not all?
I always use clonex, but never sitting in water. Place the cutting in a medium after applying clonex works best and add dome or cover with zipplock bag with a slit in it.. Also if using plain water it's best to aerate the water with an air stone. Will usually get roots within a week.
I had an unfortunate wind last week break about 3 ft off my yellow pear tomato. I was able to get it to root in a few days off of 2 cuttings in just regular water. A tip I got was to prune the leaves to the bare minimum, like all but 3 or 4 leaves per cutting, because if you don't it delays the root growth since it's still trying to focus on foliage
@@RipleysSanatorium I got one strawberry, 8 cherry tomatoes, one pot of purple pole beans, and about 5 cucumbers. The only thing they left was my mustard greens and some green onions. Pulled everything up by the roots.
I did a similar thing to clone my micro dwarf tomatoes and I tried all the same methods..I even tried spit..rooting powder...and had same results as you..and yup..spit did the best..lol..its gross but can't argue with results
@@TikkiOOO it REALLY works with mint...I pull off a stem..remove lower leaves and put in mouth a second then into water and in a day roots all over it!..I mean mints supper easy to propagate but still...lol..its impressive
if you dipped the entire stem to just below the leaves in Honey they would be even better, if you make a stronger solution of the cinnamon they might have come in even stronger, the roots looked nice in the honey and cinnamon.
Only one Cinnamon has the antifungal properties, and, of course, that Cinnamon is expensive. Ceylon Cinnamon is what you are after which is tan brown. Of course some places are unscrupulous and they mix the Ceylon with the MUCH cheaper Cassia version which is dark brown-red in colour which is what you used.
I get tomato suckers to make roots within days using just water every time but I change the water daily. I think your experiment proves clonex doesn't work. I think the reason honey and cinnamon worked for one cutting was because they are both anti bacterial. This means they made water charges less necessary. I would try changing water and rinsing cuttings and see that result, you'd like the results. All 4 cuttings in each pot would have rooted most likely. Thanks for the experiment, now I won't be purchasing any clonex.
There is something going on with this experiment that is beyond what we are seeing. There are many many many people that have used just water with great results. Same with cloning solutions. ... yet those were your two worst performing tests. I think it would be great if you invested in some quality pH and PPM meters. Your water may be way different than alot of other peoples.
I always use clonex, but never sitting in water or just plain water without clonex . Place the cutting in a medium after applying clonex works best and add dome or cover with zipplock bag with a slit in it.. Also if using plain water it's best to aerate the water with an air stone. Will usually get roots within a week
why didn't youtube offer this video when I was searching for clonex cloning results. I would have saved my money. that's frustrating since I am subscribed to you but I never saw this video. Well, I have some honey, I guess I'll try both that and the expensive cloning gell.
I went out and cloned a few of mine using honey as soon as you posted this. They all rooted and I now have more yellow pear tomatoes than I'll ever know what to do with. Thank you!
Wow, that's great! Honey has so many uses, its amazing! Thanks for the comment CriticoolHit!
@@TikkiOOOIs molasses the same as the honey
@@antoniodominguez4861no they are completely different and do not react the same in propagation techniques
Canning!!!
I love this! I love it when regular people do experiments and show that sometimes advertised products are not as good as they claim to be. I look forward to more videos like this
Thanks for the feedback!
Very interesting, and thank you! However, cloning gives you a copy of the original plant. If you rather mark the first tomatoes that ripen, wait until last before picking them, and then take the seeds from them, you get a new generation that has proved that it has the best genes to grow in your specific environment. After a few years/generations you'll get plants that are more and more adjusted to your specific environment.
I'm into the 30th generation of homegrown tomatoes that way and now have seeds that produce plants that not only can withstand the cold (I'm at latitude 58) better than any other that I've tried, but also ripen more than a month faster. Just a tip to y'all if you care to wait 30 years... :)
Wow....that is amazing....thanks for sharing that!
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That’s dedication for you 👍
Could you clarify the wait until last to pick them part. Leave them on the vine til the plant is done then pick and save the seeds sacrificing being able to eat the fruit ?
@@markmason3535 Oh, I definitely want the fruit to be edible when I pick it.
If you wait too long after that, you can't be sure what happens with the seeds.
Really excellent experiment, well done and presented. So informational. Thank you for doing this.
Nice experiment. This year i didnt bother rooting them before i put them in soil. Tomato suckers in a 7 cm pot with potting mix, roots out bottom in less than 12 days
Yes, I've also had success in soil, but I love to be able to see the roots......mother nature has many tricks up her sleeve! Thanks for the comment!
Great experiment. I have cloned tomato directly in compost mix for seedlings soil or light mix using Clonex and even using nothing at all and have nearly 100 percent success rate.
Always look forward to your experiments. 👏👏 I'm surprised by the clonex not working as well. Good to know since I wondered myself if it worked.
Thanks Rocky USA for the comment, I appreciate it. I was also surprised, I expected the Clonex to be the winner of course. Maybe it works on other plants, I've heard people have success cloning rose bushes with the Clonex, maybe I'll try that some day. So many things to try.....thanks again for the feedback!
@@TikkiOOO You're welcome.
Super Video. I love seeing what hosehold stuff can do.
Thanks seelenschlucht, we have a lot of stuff laying around the house....so yes, I agree with you! Thanks for the comment!
Hi Tikki. I just wanted to say I appreciate what you do and your experiments and tips. Keep up the great interesting work. Regards,. George
Thanks for the words of encouragement George, I appreciate it!
@@TikkiOOO So I broke down and ordered seeds from Internet and Rockwool method 6 fails. Should I try cotton balls, or cotton tissue? I've heard paper towels rip the roots more. Any suggestions I'm getting 😓 Thanks Tikki and be well, George
Wow! This is great! Thanks for sharing this. I’m going to try! 😀
Well, I'll be putting off buying Clonex! Thanks for this experiment. I do have a question. Do you know why some of the leaves in the honey and cinnamon ones were discolored?
I ended up trimming those discolored leaves and the plants are doing great! Why they discolored, I'm not sure....someone in the comments suggested using "TakeRoot" instead of Clonex, I haven't tried that. Thanks for the comment!
Thanks for conducting this experiment. Very helpful.
thanks for the honest comparison.
Cool! I did a similar experiment involving garlic powder and onion powder. I forget which had the better results but they both worked better than the control and traditional rooting powder.
3:37 your biggest cutting in clonex had at least three root fat nodes starting.
Wow! I thought the Clonex would've done better. Thank you for this experiment
Thanks for sharing your methods i will try honey looks quite promising 👍 Good luck 👍
Excellent job, thank you👍🏼
Great experiment! Thank you! Didn't know about cinnamon and honey
Thanks Genevieve, yes the honey and cinnamon are "old" tricks, before you could buy stuff that doesn't work. Thanks for the comment!
I can't wait for the updates!!!
Thanks Kesha B!
I would suspect the honey and cinnamon did better due to lacto bacilli from the air but what's really interesting is the difference in the root structures between them. I would suspect that's due to the additional strains of lactobacilli in the honey...very interesting...I know the curd from cultured milk that is made per the KNF LABS instructions comes out extremely smooth if you add honey. And it's actually an excellent alternative to mayonnaise - not to mention, chock full of probiotics! So win and win!
Excellent!
Had my tomato plant break today and smeared honey on the end stem so hopefully I see footings soon 🙏🏼
Thank you for this. It was very helpful!
Thanks I will definitely try it out because I just put it in water and it gets rotten.
Informative. Thank you 😊 💓
Last year I started hydroponic kratky boxes out side as an experiment. Tomatoes and peppers loved it. Zucchini and honey dew worked well also.
Corn, not so much, and had a few other failures.
Tomato plants I had in the ground, of course I always pinch off the suckers. A couple of plants I missed some suckers on them, and by the time I noticed them, they were large branches.
Cut them off with scissors, and replaced the failed plants in the kratky boxes. Figured the worst that could happen was they didn't grow. At the end of the growing season, those "suckers" grew tall and proud, and had better yields than the same plants in dirt. Nothing special, no clonex or any other rooting agent, just the 2 part Masterblend hydroponic solution that had already been added to the boxes.
I have since expanded on my outdoor kratky boxes for this year. Last year I had 4, 11gal boxes, with 2 or 4 holes cut in the lids (2 for tomatoes, 4 for everything else). This year I have those, again, and added 10, 27gal boxes to them, each of the 27 gal boxes have 8 holes cut in the lids. Mostly tomatoes and peppers
Suckers Rule! Glad to hear your success story, good luck this year, and thanks for the feedback!
Nice work!
very cool! thanks for sharing :)
I just put tome tomato cutting in with some willow cuttings that were rooting. The tomatoes sprouted roots very rapidly in the water with the willows.
Well, looks like I'm going to go dip my clones in honey. I love this channel and the insight you share. Thank you 😊
Your clones will love you! Thanks for the comment!
Try using general hydroponics green fertilizer. Works all the time for me.
Hello, Do you think leaving the cuttings near a grow light will root it faster? I am thinking light stimulates root growth.
Wow!! So glad you did this experiment. What a waste of money with the gimmicky Clonex.
The leaves on the clonex ones seem to stay green and look healthy.
i think making slits with a razor blade helps making more roots. i saw somebody doing this with canabis.
Have you tried using miracle grow in the water? I am trying that now.
Have you ever tried to root tomato limbs...not the suckers? I have had a problem with blight. I was told it starts with dirt splashing on the leaves so I cut off limbs close to the ground. I wonder if I can root them.
Most people cut off suckers. The limb beside a sucker typically grows down. What would happen if I cut the limb and leave the sucker? Thanks.
Did you change out the water in between or no
I think maybe the ones that grew roots were cuttings with suckers. I don't think leaf stems can root.
Interesting....I didn't think of that! Thanks for the feedback Homer!
Does this work with willow branches ?
Probably. They`re very easy to root.
I think willow will root anywhere....literally....thanks for asking!
I cut some leafs off my plants and dropped them in the soil under and a leaf started rooting.. so crazy I was not even trying to root anything just chop and drop… but yeah I’m curious to see what it does. But personally I don’t like rooting into water for most things I like using moist soil. Less rot I have noticed for me at least. Though where I live it stays suer humid so maybe that is why.
Disappointing to see the (non-trivially costing) Clonex put out such poor results in this sample. But very nice to see the (more trivial costing) honey do so well. I have to try this for myself when I do my next cuttings. I wonder if the Clonex works best with cuttings from certain types of plants, but not all?
I always use clonex, but never sitting in water. Place the cutting in a medium after applying clonex works best and add dome or cover with zipplock bag with a slit in it.. Also if using plain water it's best to aerate the water with an air stone. Will usually get roots within a week.
Also try aloe jell in yout next round
Great idea, thanks. Next time try mixing honey and cinnamon together. Good luck! 👍
What an interesting idea mixing them together! I will try that! Thanks d.t.!
@@TikkiOOO Great, make a video of it. Good luck! 👍
The clonex ones were way thicker then all the rest
It depends on the cutting
Idk if the honey or whatever did anything
I had an unfortunate wind last week break about 3 ft off my yellow pear tomato. I was able to get it to root in a few days off of 2 cuttings in just regular water.
A tip I got was to prune the leaves to the bare minimum, like all but 3 or 4 leaves per cutting, because if you don't it delays the root growth since it's still trying to focus on foliage
wow what if you dipped it in cinnamon and THEN honey?
Aloe vera gel is a natural rooting hormone 👍
I Have Always Wondered About Cinnamon And Honey
I used a product named TakeRoot on 6 Yellow Gogi Berry cuttings and all slowly produced roots, and leaves.
I will keep that in mind, thanks Good Goat!
Goats got my garden and even came up under the porch and ate my cherry tomato clones in water bottles, plus they stole my cigarettes!
Ban the goats! In all seriousness, that sucks!
@@RipleysSanatorium I got one strawberry, 8 cherry tomatoes, one pot of purple pole beans, and about 5 cucumbers. The only thing they left was my mustard greens and some green onions. Pulled everything up by the roots.
Oh NOOOOO! I'm so sorry to hear that.....as Vj says....BAN THE GOATS!
Plant some hot chilli peppers there.....
Well, if you'd have been out there smoking more... :) :)
That's not how you use clonex that's why it didn't work
Just make your own supper cloning gel with honey cinnamon and aloe vera
I wonder if honey/cinnamon would have worked better
I did a similar thing to clone my micro dwarf tomatoes and I tried all the same methods..I even tried spit..rooting powder...and had same results as you..and yup..spit did the best..lol..its gross but can't argue with results
Spit?! I wouldn't have guessed, but it makes sense! Mom's have been using it to clean their kids faces for ages....Thanks mike, I'm going to try that!
@@TikkiOOO it REALLY works with mint...I pull off a stem..remove lower leaves and put in mouth a second then into water and in a day roots all over it!..I mean mints supper easy to propagate but still...lol..its impressive
if you dipped the entire stem to just below the leaves in Honey they would be even better, if you make a stronger solution of the cinnamon they might have come in even stronger, the roots looked nice in the honey and cinnamon.
i love you.
Perhaps the honey provided food for the cutting and that is why the honey roots did best.
Only one Cinnamon has the antifungal properties, and, of course, that Cinnamon is expensive. Ceylon Cinnamon is what you are after which is tan brown. Of course some places are unscrupulous and they mix the Ceylon with the MUCH cheaper Cassia version which is dark brown-red in colour which is what you used.
Clonex is for soil roots every time. You washed it away by putting it in water
Just use plain water works the same.
But I love to set up experiments...you never know what you'll find! Thanks for the comment!
Did you watch the video? In this case it did not ‘work the same’
SCIENCE!
Has anyone tried mixing honey with cinnamon to see what happens?
More research is necessary to conclude :)
Always...more research....and....more fun......thanks TheHappyCoder!
Ph 6.0?
Wow! Wonder if you can get a refund for the cloning agent.
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Thanks john!
Now do it with Cannabis...............
I get tomato suckers to make roots within days using just water every time but I change the water daily. I think your experiment proves clonex doesn't work. I think the reason honey and cinnamon worked for one cutting was because they are both anti bacterial. This means they made water charges less necessary. I would try changing water and rinsing cuttings and see that result, you'd like the results. All 4 cuttings in each pot would have rooted most likely. Thanks for the experiment, now I won't be purchasing any clonex.
There is something going on with this experiment that is beyond what we are seeing. There are many many many people that have used just water with great results. Same with cloning solutions. ... yet those were your two worst performing tests.
I think it would be great if you invested in some quality pH and PPM meters. Your water may be way different than alot of other peoples.
I always use clonex, but never sitting in water or just plain water without clonex . Place the cutting in a medium after applying clonex works best and add dome or cover with zipplock bag with a slit in it.. Also if using plain water it's best to aerate the water with an air stone. Will usually get roots within a week
Too much clonex.. it doesn’t take much and is easy to over due causing the opposite effect to occur. Meaning no roots ever lol.
why didn't youtube offer this video when I was searching for clonex cloning results. I would have saved my money. that's frustrating since I am subscribed to you but I never saw this video. Well, I have some honey, I guess I'll try both that and the expensive cloning gell.
Make sure the honey is not chinese fake honey