To be fair to the Anglican Office Book and the St Bernard Lectionary, they both have work-arounds to explore all the hours: One can pray Matins in the traditional benedictine time for Matins, when it is dark, and the Spirit of God is hovering over the abyss, and then Prime at sunrise. The SBB has a small office of Vigils, which is uite well thought-out, imno.
What a very humble, Illuminating and inspirational video; thank you for posting it. I think everybody’s faith waxes and wanes if we’re honest. An elderly RC priest I knew many years ago who had been a dutiful and assiduous priest for over 60 years, said to me once that he had never had a religious experience in his life, but his belief kept him going as a priest. It’s a good lesson on the importance of faith over feelings, which is heresy to the modern world. I appreciate your videos very much.
Great video! The reflections on sacred time breaking into “ordinary time”-pardon the pun-were very good. The question on why WE need prayer is implicit in your talk-and the notion that daily prayer sacrementalizes time and enables us to deepen our relationship to sacred time (eternity) is really good and consistent with other mystics. Cheers, and may God help you with your offices.
@@dalecaldwell I don't think you should refrain from speaking your thoughts, or apologize when you do unless of course you begin promoting Bacchanalian revelry from the tin can. From what I've seen in the comments section of your many posts is that We are all looking for the language, or vocabulary that best expresses our longing for The Indwelling Christ. I will continue to use the AOB, and my newly acquired 'A hymnal of the heart' (Qui bene cantat bis orat.) Continue posting, continue praying, continue the conversation with those of us out here in the tubes. I still find praying,(chanting) the Orthodox Kathismata with prayers very edifying. It was a revelation to me when I discovered the power in praying the psalms out loud.
@Matt-qi6kk Funny. I once lived in a community in Santa Fe that we called the Bacchanal, because it was on Baca Street. There was one Easter that started with Mass at daybreak, and some people didn't leave until Monday morning.
17:49 Oh, I’m horribly distressed! 😂 All kidding aside, thanks for sharing. I’m really challenged by sanctifying time in a way that feels meaningful and d yet accords with both my state of life as a bishop and my daily work as a chaplain/my care for my wife and children.
Excellent Sermon. Preach it! Can I get a witness? My use of the Office doesn't matter, of course. However, I use the Anglican Breviary and the Anglican Office Book, working in the Office of Readings from the Benedictine Daily Prayer you reviewed. I suppose someone could fault me for reading two sermons instead of one, plus the Legend (though they would fault me for more that!), but I would respond that the sermons reflect that the message of Jesus Christ was the same for Church Fathers in the 4th and 5th and 6th centuries, for example, as they are today. I have a pre-Pope St. Plus X Little Office of the Blessed Virgin Many with Medieval and Renaissance art and a nice cover that was given a limited print run. I went back to buy a copy for my wife, but it was sold out. Its just a little book with changes for Advent and for Lent. Its beautiful! I suppose it was very much like a primer from centuries ago. This Little Office has various daily prayers under the art work that gives one enough prayers so that it also acts as a prayer book. Thanks also for the glimpse inside the Little Office with the Blue Cover. That could be a stocking stuffer for my wife this Christmas.
If someone were to make a Short Breviary that has all of the Hours and all of the Psalms arranged for a two-week Coverdale psalter, would that be something worth making? Thank you for the excellent video btw!
Brother Dale your link to _Benedictine Daily Prayer_ is instead to _The Shape of the Liturgy._ As it happens there are two titles from Liturgical Press of the same title, to be found. The one published in 2005, the other in 2015. They are slightly different in length, but I don't know if this represents a material difference, such as the use of a different translation for the scripture, or if the text was reset.
thanks. I thought I had fixed that, but I guess I didn't click save. It's tempting to buy a copy of the earlier edition to find out, but maybe I can find a review. It seems that there are more typos and less ease of use, fewer psalms, but an older translation, in the 2005 book. 'The second edition of "Benedictine Daily Prayer" is considered a significant improvement over the first edition, with major changes including a more user-friendly layout, less page turning required, updated translations of scripture readings, additional psalmody at Vigils, and a revised selection of collects, making it easier to navigate and enriching the prayer experience overall. '
BDP Second Edition was reformatted a bit, the psalmody was expanded, and instead of a single patristic reading for the Sundays, all three years of the cycle get a patristic reading to accompany the gospel.
This isn't so much about vat ii as about the english reformation. It might just be a halfway house to the old breviary. The Benedictine Shorter Breviary is certainly easier to use.
Well, I guess Tommy won't send you to purgatory, at least. I think that my current ambition is to use the very robust lectionary of the St. Bernard Breviary as a guide for lectio divina, using it over a two-year cycle with one of th emorning readings and one of the evening readings each year.
Is there a problem with the Anglican Breviary? I find it quite complete for praying the 8 hours. I gave up on trying to pray the hours using my Russian Orthodox services since I don't have the close to 20 books necessary to make up the services. However, other than having Rubrics written by Monty Python, the Anglican Breviary seems rather complete for a single volume. I use the 1962 Roman Missal for the Epistles and Gospels, and the feasts and Saints days mesh rather well with the AB. You had written once that you used to pray the AB. I am interested in the reason that you prefer your current books. BTW - as someone wrote before; this is your blog. You owe no one any apologies for stating your opinion. I have gotten a lot out of the videos that you stated that you were hesitant to make.
@kennethdowdy1105 Oh, my. I certainly didn't mean to imply tht there was anything wrong with the Anglican Breviary. I was delighted to find it for my own use, and it replaced for me both the Monastic Breviary Matins and Diurnal from Lancelot Andrewes Press--although the Diurnal is a bit easier to tuck into a pocket to take with one. But, I fell among younger Anglicans who were all excited about the St Bernard Breviary, and I stIarted using it, having been given a copy of the draft edition. My AB went to a rather Monty Python youngster in North Carolina who aspires to biretta and cape. But when I returned, after about two months in the modern world, to the tin can, I found the AOB to be more to my flavour, despite my great respect for Fr Ben's efforts. However, when one follows the BCP arrangement of the Psalter, the little offices become repetitions. (Ben has a one-week scheme for praying the Psalter which allows for that, btw.) So, I thought it might be intersting and perhaps helpful to see what it would be like to return to something closer to Benedict's ordering of the Psalms, with greater emphasis on the times of the day, week, and year. Oddly enough, the videos I often feel reticent about, because they seem rather personal and niche, are often the ones that seem to be most useful. Thanks for reminding me of that.
To be fair to the Anglican Office Book and the St Bernard Lectionary, they both have work-arounds to explore all the hours: One can pray Matins in the traditional benedictine time for Matins, when it is dark, and the Spirit of God is hovering over the abyss, and then Prime at sunrise. The SBB has a small office of Vigils, which is uite well thought-out, imno.
What a very humble, Illuminating and inspirational video; thank you for posting it. I think everybody’s faith waxes and wanes if we’re honest. An elderly RC priest I knew many years ago who had been a dutiful and assiduous priest for over 60 years, said to me once that he had never had a religious experience in his life, but his belief kept him going as a priest. It’s a good lesson on the importance of faith over feelings, which is heresy to the modern world. I appreciate your videos very much.
@@albertsmyth9616 Thank you for the encouraging words.
Thanks dear Dale!
Great video! The reflections on sacred time breaking into “ordinary time”-pardon the pun-were very good. The question on why WE need prayer is implicit in your talk-and the notion that daily prayer sacrementalizes time and enables us to deepen our relationship to sacred time (eternity) is really good and consistent with other mystics. Cheers, and may God help you with your offices.
@sterlingpratt5802 Thank you. I was a little reticent to publish this video.
@@dalecaldwell I don't think you should refrain from speaking your thoughts, or apologize when you do unless of course you begin promoting Bacchanalian revelry from the tin can. From what I've seen in the comments section of your many posts is that We are all looking for the language, or vocabulary that best expresses our longing for The Indwelling Christ. I will continue to use the AOB, and my newly acquired 'A hymnal of the heart' (Qui bene cantat bis orat.) Continue posting, continue praying, continue the conversation with those of us out here in the tubes. I still find praying,(chanting) the Orthodox Kathismata with prayers very edifying. It was a revelation to me when I discovered the power in praying the psalms out loud.
@Matt-qi6kk Funny. I once lived in a community in Santa Fe that we called the Bacchanal, because it was on Baca Street. There was one Easter that started with Mass at daybreak, and some people didn't leave until Monday morning.
@@dalecaldwell Funny, when I went to college in Santa Fe there was a party house that like to call itself the Bacchae. :) cheers.
some fab thoughts
17:49 Oh, I’m horribly distressed! 😂
All kidding aside, thanks for sharing. I’m really challenged by sanctifying time in a way that feels meaningful and d yet accords with both my state of life as a bishop and my daily work as a chaplain/my care for my wife and children.
Excellent Sermon. Preach it! Can I get a witness?
My use of the Office doesn't matter, of course. However, I use the Anglican Breviary and the Anglican Office Book, working in the Office of Readings from the Benedictine Daily Prayer you reviewed. I suppose someone could fault me for reading two sermons instead of one, plus the Legend (though they would fault me for more that!), but I would respond that the sermons reflect that the message of Jesus Christ was the same for Church Fathers in the 4th and 5th and 6th centuries, for example, as they are today.
I have a pre-Pope St. Plus X Little Office of the Blessed Virgin Many with Medieval and Renaissance art and a nice cover that was given a limited print run. I went back to buy a copy for my wife, but it was sold out. Its just a little book with changes for Advent and for Lent. Its beautiful! I suppose it was very much like a primer from centuries ago. This Little Office has various daily prayers under the art work that gives one enough prayers so that it also acts as a prayer book.
Thanks also for the glimpse inside the Little Office with the Blue Cover. That could be a stocking stuffer for my wife this Christmas.
@AmericanShia786 I don't think I could juggle all of that. Btw, The Little Office also has music.
If someone were to make a Short Breviary that has all of the Hours and all of the Psalms arranged for a two-week Coverdale psalter, would that be something worth making?
Thank you for the excellent video btw!
@@TristanHayes good idea
@@dalecaldwell I will endeavor to make it 👍
@TristanHayes BTW, Fr Ben in the St Bernard Breviary, on p. 185, has a scheme for a one-week psalter.
Brother Dale your link to _Benedictine Daily Prayer_ is instead to _The Shape of the Liturgy._
As it happens there are two titles from Liturgical Press of the same title, to be found. The one published in 2005, the other in 2015. They are slightly different in length, but I don't know if this represents a material difference, such as the use of a different translation for the scripture, or if the text was reset.
thanks. I thought I had fixed that, but I guess I didn't click save. It's tempting to buy a copy of the earlier edition to find out, but maybe I can find a review. It seems that there are more typos and less ease of use, fewer psalms, but an older translation, in the 2005 book. 'The second edition of "Benedictine Daily Prayer" is considered a significant improvement over the first edition, with major changes including a more user-friendly layout, less page turning required, updated translations of scripture readings, additional psalmody at Vigils, and a revised selection of collects, making it easier to navigate and enriching the prayer experience overall. '
BDP Second Edition was reformatted a bit, the psalmody was expanded, and instead of a single patristic reading for the Sundays, all three years of the cycle get a patristic reading to accompany the gospel.
@@BishopRobLyons thanks
How could you go Vatican II on me, Dale! :) I do appreciate your reflections.
This isn't so much about vat ii as about the english reformation. It might just be a halfway house to the old breviary. The Benedictine Shorter Breviary is certainly easier to use.
I'd ask St.Thomas Cranmer to pray for you, but not sure my asking would be appreciated.
Well, I guess Tommy won't send you to purgatory, at least. I think that my current ambition is to use the very robust lectionary of the St. Bernard Breviary as a guide for lectio divina, using it over a two-year cycle with one of th emorning readings and one of the evening readings each year.
Is there a problem with the Anglican Breviary? I find it quite complete for praying the 8 hours. I gave up on trying to pray the hours using my Russian Orthodox services since I don't have the close to 20 books necessary to make up the services. However, other than having Rubrics written by Monty Python, the Anglican Breviary seems rather complete for a single volume. I use the 1962 Roman Missal for the Epistles and Gospels, and the feasts and Saints days mesh rather well with the AB. You had written once that you used to pray the AB. I am interested in the reason that you prefer your current books. BTW - as someone wrote before; this is your blog. You owe no one any apologies for stating your opinion. I have gotten a lot out of the videos that you stated that you were hesitant to make.
@kennethdowdy1105 Oh, my. I certainly didn't mean to imply tht there was anything wrong with the Anglican Breviary. I was delighted to find it for my own use, and it replaced for me both the Monastic Breviary Matins and Diurnal from Lancelot Andrewes Press--although the Diurnal is a bit easier to tuck into a pocket to take with one. But, I fell among younger Anglicans who were all excited about the St Bernard Breviary, and I stIarted using it, having been given a copy of the draft edition. My AB went to a rather Monty Python youngster in North Carolina who aspires to biretta and cape. But when I returned, after about two months in the modern world, to the tin can, I found the AOB to be more to my flavour, despite my great respect for Fr Ben's efforts. However, when one follows the BCP arrangement of the Psalter, the little offices become repetitions. (Ben has a one-week scheme for praying the Psalter which allows for that, btw.) So, I thought it might be intersting and perhaps helpful to see what it would be like to return to something closer to Benedict's ordering of the Psalms, with greater emphasis on the times of the day, week, and year. Oddly enough, the videos I often feel reticent about, because they seem rather personal and niche, are often the ones that seem to be most useful. Thanks for reminding me of that.