Buying a home in Italy - EXPAT LIFE in Umbria

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  • Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
  • In today's video we share with you the experiences we had while looking for and buying a house.
    Did you know that most Italians take their kitchens with them?
    We go through the 4 stages of buying a home (finding a home, viewing a home, negotiating/making an offer and ultimately closing on the home sale) as well as offer a bonus tip that almost caused some issues for us.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 185

  • @borntoroam2468
    @borntoroam2468 Рік тому +19

    Hello and congrats on your beautiful home! Curious about the visa/residence permits you had when you left the USA. Does purchasing a home in Italy allow you to reside in the county permanently and become an Italian citizen? Thanks for the great info!

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому +5

      Hello and thank you! We will be doing a video on this in the very near future. In short, Stijn is a Belgian citizen so a lot of my being able to be here has been because of that. We're sort of an out of the ordinary story so we will go into all the details in a future video.
      Thank you so much for watching and leaving a great comment 💞🇮🇹
      Debbie and Stijn

    • @borntoroam2468
      @borntoroam2468 Рік тому +3

      @@ouritaliandestiny7955 Wonderful, I look forward to hearing about it! By the way, I have family on my mom's side in Perugia, Latina, Lazio & Fermignano, Marche...which I believe is north of you guys! We're 2yrs to early retirement & planning to slow travel for a year to see how it works out & making that part of Italy one of our first stops! Love your videos & enjoyed your visit with John & Bev, as we follow them too, as well as "Brian and Carrie" who are slow traveling & also from here in the states! Take care!

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому +5

      @@borntoroam2468 Awe, Perugia is only 45 minutes to the east of us, the others a bit more. We went to Marche a few weeks ago and posted a video, Yucca is Yummy! Another gorgeous part of Italy!!
      Let us know when you will be in our area, we love showing it off💞 We absolutely loved meeting John & Bev and having them as our guests for a few days. We recently started following Brian and Carrie as well!
      💞🇮🇹Debbie and Stijn

    • @RetirementTravelers
      @RetirementTravelers Рік тому +4

      @@borntoroam2468 Thanks for following us all! Good luck on your early retirement! We highly recommend an adventure and hope we get an update on how it's going in the future!

    • @JohnandCaraRetiredTravellers
      @JohnandCaraRetiredTravellers Рік тому +4

      We are curious too on the residence requirements, also I’m assuming based on your video their was no financing involved ie. mortgage. I’m curious how involved that process would be. Looking forward to your next videos! ~great job! ~Cara 😊

  • @crazyforitaly2021
    @crazyforitaly2021 Рік тому +10

    We left 'crazy' land and moved to Italy in 2021 - no regrets here. Keep up the good work

  • @dorismeusburger4219
    @dorismeusburger4219 6 днів тому +1

    Thank you for the last tipp regarding the olive harvest. It will definately be helpful.

  • @brittdoughtie5597
    @brittdoughtie5597 Рік тому +13

    Hi! My wife and I are really curious about prices in Italy. We really like your Vlog, but noticed that you never say how much anything costs. For example, your Italian house and your kitchen remodel. Pricing information about these items would be super-informative and helpful to your viewers. Thanks and we love your vlogs!

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому +12

      Hi Britt! Good point. Our house was 185,000€ and our kitchen about 15,000€
      We're so happy you're enjoying our videos and we strive to make them better with great suggestions from our viewers like you!

  • @olgasampis9745
    @olgasampis9745 9 місяців тому +3

    I don’t blame you for wanting to live there!

  • @CraigandMandy1
    @CraigandMandy1 Рік тому +6

    We will be paying close attention to your videos. Settling in Italy was our first thought. Now we plan to travel until we find the perfect place.

  • @Romualdomgn84
    @Romualdomgn84 Рік тому +4

    Thank you for sharing your experience. Interestingly enough, that crop still belongs to the seller even after sealing the deal with selling the property. On the other hand, it sounds fair to those people, who took care of trees or plants throughout the year.

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому

      It is truly a unique tradition here in Italy.
      Thank you so much for watching💞🇮🇹

  • @rosafalso8947
    @rosafalso8947 10 місяців тому +3

    It’s a blessing to buy a villa in Italy and live there,I moved from Italy to the U S A now I can say that I prefer The U S. The hospitals are lacking. Doctors even if is free medical for everyone but the system is broken . Waiting for cat scans X rays takes weeks to schedule .I love Vacationing in Italy but when it comes to actual living and comforts love my life in America . Parking and wide roads makes it less stressful for me here .Our American schools are well equipped for sports activities heated and air conditioned ,I could go on and on.

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  10 місяців тому +1

      America is pretty special.

    • @sunmand6136
      @sunmand6136 Місяць тому +1

      Except that healthcare is broken in the U.S and has become unaffordable. It is the only country in the world where you can go bankrupt because of medical bills despite having insurance. I love my country, but it is becoming a country of have and have nots. And that sadly is never sustainable.

  • @gregmertz1202
    @gregmertz1202 10 місяців тому +3

    🎉❤ Is very great informative video thank you

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  10 місяців тому +1

      So glad you enjoyed our video and thank you for watching 💞🇮🇹

  • @jodysummers4121
    @jodysummers4121 Рік тому +3

    Olive tree parties sound fabulous! Great video. 💗

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому

      Right? I can't wait to have one this year! Thank you for watching our video and we're so glad you enjoyed it💞🇮🇹Debbie and Stijn

  • @RetirementTravelers
    @RetirementTravelers Рік тому +3

    Great video! We'd like to see your harvest party this year and also the process of pressing it for the oil.

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому

      Thank you!
      Oh we will definitely be sharing the whole oil harvest process.... as long as we have a good crop😂
      💞🇮🇹Debbie and Stijn

  • @wendy6287
    @wendy6287 Рік тому +2

    Great tips!!

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому

      We're so glad you enjoyed our video! Thank you so much for watching💞🇮🇹

  • @cherin6703
    @cherin6703 Рік тому +2

    That house you point out at 1:40, I swear I saw that on idealista or gate-away last year. I've been searching those two sites for homes for sale for about a year now and I swear I recognize that one. My husband and I hope to move there in about two years.

  • @terrinelson1753
    @terrinelson1753 Рік тому +5

    Happy Anniversary and congratulations to you both for another wonderful video!! We thought it was fascinating that in the buying process that if the Seller backs out the Buyer/s receive double their deposit back.. Very important to list everything in the RE Contract on what's included inside the home and outside, including harvesting of trees!!.. Wishing you two a successful Fall Harvest from your Olive grove and look forward to next year in 2023 helping you harvest and have fun together while we are there!!

  • @BlindSquirrel425
    @BlindSquirrel425 10 місяців тому +2

    Very interesting! I’d love more videos from your new place.

  • @erohesa8928
    @erohesa8928 Рік тому +2

    Congratulations!! So beautiful home!

  • @marianelamerille8027
    @marianelamerille8027 Рік тому +6

    Love it
    I wish I would be younger
    I am 68, just retired and lost my husband a year ago. Scared to do this alone
    Blessings and Congrats!!!🎉

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому

      It definitely was a big leap of faith at 63. Thank you so much for watching and your lovely comment 💞🇮🇹

  • @leladavis2126
    @leladavis2126 Рік тому +4

    Just happened on your site!! What beautiful home and what a exciting life you are living. So happy for you and your husband. Enjoy watching your adventures.

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому

      Thank you so much Lela and welcome to our channel!! 💞🇮🇹
      Debbie and Stijn

  • @normski4ash
    @normski4ash Рік тому +2

    Short, sweet and to the point ! Why can't more you tubers be like you, instead of waffling on about diddly squat. Much appreciated, Thnx and enjoy your new life...

  • @TravelingTramps
    @TravelingTramps Рік тому +3

    Sounds like an interesting experience, Debbie and Stign. We just went though the process, but back here in the US. We left them our kitchen though! Happily they purchased most of our furniture too. Since we downsized we would have had to scramble otherwise. Interesting about the penalties for backing out of selling. Also interesting about the sellers being there for the showing. We were gone and the realtor handled it. We were happy however to meet them as the agreement was signed at their request. I also wanted to make sure everything was clear. They are a lovely young couple! Loved hearing about your experience in Italy. Next year, you'll have a wonderful Olive Celebration!

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому

      We're so happy you had a pleasant experience and your buyers were so sweet Dave and Kathy. We were very lucky as well after all the horror stories we've been hearing about others who bought a house in Italy.
      Thank you so much for watching, Debbie and Stijn

  • @PostcardAndAPint
    @PostcardAndAPint Рік тому +2

    Right guys, just starting to binge watch more of your videos. This is really interesting, especially the addresses issue, we’ve noticed that. Also interesting about the sellers showing you round, rather than the agent. We would love to by abroad one day so all of this is really great. How lovely that you had the previous owners round for dinner. Also really interesting about the harvesting unwritten rule. Fab video, looking forward to getting through more of your videos 🍻

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому +1

      So happy to hear you're enjoying our videos!! If you ever feel the need to have a look in our area please let us know, your room will be waiting for you!!
      Debbie and Stijn

  • @carlomagno7092
    @carlomagno7092 10 місяців тому +2

    Bella casa sul serio, complimenti

  • @heyitsTonya
    @heyitsTonya 10 місяців тому +2

    This was very helpful, thank you!

  • @kenhunt5153
    @kenhunt5153 Рік тому +5

    We are trying to purchase property remotely and it is very rare for a realtor to respond in Italy.
    Any possible purchase will require a fiscal code. If purchasing remotely you do not need to go to an Italian Consulate in the States.
    Unlike the States you will rarely get the home address or numerous photos of the property. Agents are extremely reluctant to give out specific addresses....if they even respond.
    The process can take 3 to 4 months. The Ecobonus program has slowed the Notary process even more in Italy.
    August.....nothing happens with the purchase of a property.
    It is very common to have no kitchen and large pieces of wooden furniture left in the house.
    If there is a cellar specify that it must be empty and contents removed from the property.
    As of this writing the currency conversion is equal. It would be a great time to buy.
    Just be very, very patient. Customer service in Italy is not a given.

    • @travelvideos
      @travelvideos Рік тому

      Did you get a fiscal code ? Seems even when renting a moped, one needs a fiscal code.

    • @user-ru4ed2rf9t
      @user-ru4ed2rf9t 2 місяці тому

      So truth!

  • @MarkVJenkins
    @MarkVJenkins Рік тому +2

    thank you for sharing. I learned something new!

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому

      It definitely was a new experience and learning process. Thank you so much for watching! 💞🇮🇹
      Debbie and Stijn

  • @Where_in_the_world_are_we_now
    @Where_in_the_world_are_we_now Рік тому +2

    Wow! That seems like it was so simple! 😮. What a treasure to be living your dream every day! 😍

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому +1

      We feel very lucky Lorrie that our buying process went so smoothly and quickly! We know two people that weren't so lucky. One finally got into her her new home just last month after 2 months of waiting after she signed the purchase agreement and another lady still hasn't closed on her property she sold back in March. 💞🇮🇹

  • @mf5531
    @mf5531 Рік тому +2

    real good video. hello from phoenix az

  • @williamrosshowarth5875
    @williamrosshowarth5875 7 місяців тому +1

    Thank you. This has helped me make my mind up. so kinf

  • @trendingwwwandw
    @trendingwwwandw Рік тому +3

    Very interesting information share
    MORE like this please!😍

  • @emre-dogan-istanbul
    @emre-dogan-istanbul Рік тому +3

    Very nice video Excellent home 😍 So unique .

  • @carolc1543
    @carolc1543 Рік тому +4

    Nice home! I just came to a verbal agreement with seller and pre compremesso and compremesso is being written by my attorney and a notaio. Hope to close in September when I’ll be in the area visiting. I’m a dual citizen and plan on living there in a few months. Congratulations on yours!

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому +1

      Oh how exciting!! I bet you just can't wait to be here! What region will you be living in?
      Thank you so much for watching 💞🇮🇹
      Debbie and Stijn

    • @carolc1543
      @carolc1543 Рік тому +2

      @@ouritaliandestiny7955 I’m buying in Scalea, Calabria. I looked everywhere for years. Fell in love. Meets all my needs. Only three hours high speed train to Rome. 7% flat tax zone. Plus many other …..

  • @SoulEternalPeaceWarrior77
    @SoulEternalPeaceWarrior77 Рік тому +3

    Excellent video guys, congrats on the purchase! Would you be able to make a video on the process of dealing with realtors? Real Estate Websites? I've heard they take a long time to reply back sometimes, or you need certain criteria to begin the buying process? (If buying remotely from the U.S.) Thanks again for all your help, salute! 🍷

  • @gabrieladramba1663
    @gabrieladramba1663 2 місяці тому +1

    Great video

  • @JayandTanyaTravel
    @JayandTanyaTravel Рік тому +2

    That was very interesting about the olive harvesting. I'm assuming (and I suppose you are as well) that the seller's right to harvest ends after a year. I think your new channel focus will be interesting to a lot of people. Good job.

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому

      Yes, we would assume, but never take anything for granted in Italy😂
      So glad you are enjoying our content. We will still be having some travelling videos as well! We still have the rest of Italy to explore!
      Thanks for watching Jay and Tanya💞🇮🇹
      Debbie and Stijn

  • @Paul-yd6rr
    @Paul-yd6rr Рік тому +2

    We're so excited for you. Can you give us a general sense of the cost of similar home like that? I understand that you don't want to give an exact price, but maybe a range?

  • @talesfromtuscany
    @talesfromtuscany Рік тому +2

    Lol 😂 I just love the point about the harvest! Who would have known? Not me! I’ve been looking at an olive grove and now I’m thinking…don’t get too attached to the beautiful olives for at least a year as they’re still not really yours! You’ve got to love those customs ♥️🥰🇮🇹

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому +1

      You would never even give it a second thought.
      Yep, those olives definitely wouldn't be yours this year Marisa😂
      Glad we could help to avoid the heart break💞🇮🇹
      Debbie and Stijn

    • @talesfromtuscany
      @talesfromtuscany Рік тому +1

      @@ouritaliandestiny7955 I'm well prepared now! Thank you so much...PS told David and he wasn't one bit perturbed 😄😍

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому +1

      @@talesfromtuscany 🤣😂🤣

  • @jeffconley819
    @jeffconley819 Рік тому +1

    Most all of my closings here in the states have had both buyers and sellers present . To sign papers and turn over keys.
    I only had one closing where the sellers where but there .

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому

      Oh, well that's interesting. Maybe in Nevada both aren't there. We've never bought a house in the States when both were there. Good to know!

  • @nyxdoc2801
    @nyxdoc2801 Рік тому +1

    loved your videos. you guys look beautiful together. we love u here in Iran

  • @michaelbiasatti5016
    @michaelbiasatti5016 8 місяців тому +2

    Cool video. Is there any inspection that takes place prior to closing to reveal any huge problems? Are there mineral rights that do or do not pass with the property?

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  8 місяців тому

      I have never heard anyone talk about mineral rights so I'm not sure about that. You can certainly have various kinds of inspections done before purchasing, particularly recommended for older homes. Every home that is sold requires a habitation license which includes validation that there are no illegal structures present but that's part of the fee you pay the notary.

  • @MemoryCollective
    @MemoryCollective 11 місяців тому +1

    Hello, I've enjoyed your comments about finding and purchasing property in Umbria. I'm thinking of doing a simalar thing and wondering if you could suggest a town where a reasonable apartment might be found. Iill not have a vehicle so walking to shops, markets, and cafes will be essential. I am also very focused on art and antiquity (therefore leaning towards Umbria). Any suggestions would be helpful for early visits and securing a long term property.

  • @bessmcneill971
    @bessmcneill971 Рік тому +2

    Love your content, it is so informative for those of us planning to buy soon. Can you recommend a realtor for house hunting in Umbria?

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому +1

      Oh thank you so much! We of course recommend Tara Acheson in Panicale for the Trasimeno area of Umbria. She was our agent and she was wonderful!

    • @bessmcneill971
      @bessmcneill971 Рік тому +1

      @@ouritaliandestiny7955 So sweet of you to share, thank you!!! ❤️

  • @TheJourneyAwaits
    @TheJourneyAwaits Рік тому +2

    Very informative. It’s so different compared to the US. Lol two pounds of keys. Give me my olives 🫒. Enjoyed thumbs up 👍

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому +2

      Lol! We literally were handed like 10 different key chains with some having ap least 10 keys on them🤣😂 it was hysterical! We're excited to have that dang olive harvest party this year!! 😂🤣
      Thank you guys for watching💞🇮🇹
      Debbie and Stijn

  • @khuonghieu3894
    @khuonghieu3894 Рік тому +11

    Beautiful Video ❤️ I think the pandemic and economic crisis have taught people the importance of multiple streams of income, unfortunately having a job doesn't mean financial security. I really appreciate the transparency and giving people a fighting chance during these troubling times.

    • @ukuranashkoy8270
      @ukuranashkoy8270 Рік тому +1

      You are right! I lost my Job during the pandemic, I lost almost everything I had including my savings. I started an investment which today is the reason I have my own business.

    • @westlofdave7266
      @westlofdave7266 Рік тому +1

      I agree with you 100%. Did you know that the unemployment rate increased significantly between 2020-2021. people found themselves unemployed. we should not depend solely on wages and salaries.

    • @Spalletti923
      @Spalletti923 Рік тому +1

      @Adnan Khan I thought I was the only one who knew Alicia Seda Rich. Her techniques are quite exceptional. I had the privilege of meeting her at a Summit in Singapore. It feels really good to see you talk about her.

    • @Spalletti923
      @Spalletti923 Рік тому +1

      I started with about 7,000, which I could afford at the time. Now I have €. 200 k as generated ROI, and it's been only a year. The most interesting part of it is that you don't need a lot of money to start with. Alicia is the best Professional Broker I know, she has a way of making huge profits in just one week.

  • @Iamcjakes
    @Iamcjakes Рік тому +1

    Just subscribed and was wondering if you needed to know Italian for all of this.

  • @claudiofoiadelli8721
    @claudiofoiadelli8721 Рік тому +2

    E' vero c'è molta burocrazia nel sistema italiano. Però alcune leggi servono a tutelare e dare garanzie alle persone. E' normale che nei primi periodi dovrete imparare le modalità dettate dal sistema italiano. In generale la prima casa è molto tutelata dal nostro sistema legislativo. Il troppo caldo non è al momento regolamentato ma speriamo che presto le temperature ritornino ad una normalità ........................ 🤣🤣

  • @havechopstickswilltravel2990
    @havechopstickswilltravel2990 Рік тому +2

    Good to know. Will be noted if we ever say to ourselves that “we could live here” in Italy. Warning…we say that to many of the places we have visited in the states. 😍😂😂

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому +1

      🤣😂🤣 I always did that in the States (or wherever I am) as well😂🤣 This time I meant it!! And Stijn totally agreed💞🇮🇹

  • @I_sew_slow
    @I_sew_slow Рік тому +1

    I watch the Umbrian Sewist (on UA-cam), she left America and moved to Umbria.

  • @brianfilkowski
    @brianfilkowski Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the insight. I currently surf the Idealista web site for properties in the Tuscan, Umbrian and Marche area. I live in Colorado/US and know enough to realize that Italian real estate is different. Here of course we have the full price or above option, or lose the potential property. How would you compare listing price to contract price in Italy? I feel that buying while across the Atlantic is worse than having boots on the ground and not being in any hurry. I am not against renting first, then looking. Cash in hand of course. So many places that could be had that are not even listed. How are your driver’s licenses going? I am prepping three years in advance for that ball of fun.

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому +4

      Hi Brian, good to hear from you again!
      All 3 of those areas are beautiful but Umbria comes in on lower costs for everything compared to Tuscany and being right next door, you get the best of both worlds! It would definitely be better to be on this side of the pond, especially because of all the little things that crop up in these older houses. Some regions have some good tax benefits as well, but I'm not clear on all of that. Listed prices here I think are merely to see if they can get away with it. Our house was originally listed for 280,000. Euros 3 years ago then reduced and reduced again. We found it on the last reduced price of 195,000 and ultimaly in the end we paid 180,000 euros + taxes and fees. Its very common for a house to sit on the market for up to 5 years. So the closer to that mark you're likely able to get a great deal. Of course you'll more then likely have to install a kitchen🤣😂
      Stijn has an EU drivers license and I'm in the process of exchanging my US one for a Belgian one, the I will exchange that for an Italian one! No test for me Phew!
      Thank you so much for watching and your great comment! 💞🇮🇹
      Debbie and Stijn

  • @thewizardsofthezoo5376
    @thewizardsofthezoo5376 Рік тому +1

    Well I am Italian ans I am scared of buying in Italy, because of the red tape, but you video sort of made me more comfortable.

  • @2cartalkers
    @2cartalkers Рік тому +2

    7 months? Did you have a permesso di soggiorno in order to stay that long? Bravo, well done! I so envy you two.

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому

      No we didn't, but Stijn is an EU citizen and I received a 5 year residency card for Belgium. Thank you for such a great question and watching!

  • @sabrinamandarello2410
    @sabrinamandarello2410 Рік тому +1

    Great video! This is probably a silly question but why didn’t your agent disclose that piece of information re the olive trees? That should have been highlighted!

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому +1

      She knew it but didn't think they would want to harvest them because there were only 12 trees and it was a bad year for olives. Still no excuse we agree. So our point exactly, if you are buying something with any sort of something that's harvestable, especially olive trees, make sure you settle on an agreement who gets the harvest. We know many people with the same story! Gotta love Italy 💕🇮🇹😂

    • @sabrinamandarello2410
      @sabrinamandarello2410 Рік тому +1

      @@ouritaliandestiny7955 the 2022 crop will be even better 😊

  • @flowerfairy1950
    @flowerfairy1950 Рік тому +1

    No-one actually explains the requirements to obtain a Visa to reside in Italy. As Australian Pensioners (in our 70s) who would be able to purchase a property, have savings BUT apparently only INCOME is counted and our pensions fall short. If retired, noone mentions the income required to apply for residency.

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому

      Stay tuned, we will explain that in an upcoming video ☺️ Thank you for watching 💞🇮🇹

  • @michaelbiasatti5016
    @michaelbiasatti5016 8 місяців тому +2

    What type of annual property taxes are imposed on you? Is it like in the U.S. ? Does it increase annually by a fixed percentage or an appraised amount? Thanks for sharing.

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  8 місяців тому

      The property tax on primary residences is zero currently. You do pay on a second home but I couldn't tell you how much, certainly a lot less than in the US though.

  • @deannagev.5438
    @deannagev.5438 Місяць тому +1

    Hello, great video, thank you!
    Can you please tell me what is the real estate agent fee in Umbria? By the way, do you know someone you would recommend? My husband and I are traveling to Umbria very soon! 🌺

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Місяць тому

      Thank you! Typically the fee would be 3%. We know a great realtor in Panicale, she was ours😊

  • @hillock10
    @hillock10 10 місяців тому +1

    I noticed the next three days in Umbria temperatures reach 106 degrees F. That can get uncomfortable. Does your home have central air conditioning?

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  10 місяців тому +1

      We have individual units for the living room and both bedrooms so we can cool only the areas we spend time in. Electricity is quite expensive here compared to the US so I prefer this versus the central air commonly used in America.

  • @brooklynmurphy2940
    @brooklynmurphy2940 Рік тому +1

    Can you share how much you paid? How large it is etc.? Land mass size? Thanks, very good video!!

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому +1

      We paid 185,000 euros for 2 bedrooms ,2 bathrooms, and an office. It's about 1600 sqft of house and an acre of land.
      Thank you for watching!
      Debbie and Stijn

  • @mikejoy2048
    @mikejoy2048 Рік тому +3

    Just curious. Now that the property is yours, how are property taxes dealt with? Are they paid only at purchase or do you have to pay taxes yearly?

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому

      Hi Mike, you pay them at time of purchase and yearly, however, currently for primary residences annual property taxes are at zero percent, Which apparently is temporary and has been "temporary" for a very long time. Great question!
      Thank you so much for watching 💞🇮🇹
      Debbie and Stijn

  • @billiejean1495
    @billiejean1495 Рік тому +1

    Can you do a contingency on your house selling before you move to Italy?

  • @Freedom384
    @Freedom384 Рік тому +1

    Nice have lots tree 🌲

  • @tammyargento6316
    @tammyargento6316 Рік тому +1

    Is all cash required? Can you finance a house through a bank? CAn a USA bank be used or can an Italian lender be used?

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому +1

      Absolutely not required but being a cash buyer helps, as it does in the US. We know many people who bought with a mortgage though, generally an Italian lender was used in those scenarios. Your realtor can recommend local institutions to work with depending on location.
      We inquired about getting a loan for an investment property and found the rates high and max loan to value very low (55-60%) so it was not something we pursued.

  • @microtrade154
    @microtrade154 9 місяців тому +1

    which city you bought this house and what is the price range? required documents and procedures?

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  9 місяців тому

      We bought in a town called Piegaro, price range roughly 200 000 euro. When buying from a private party you will need to work with a notary who draws up the contracts and does the research to ensure the seller is the owner etc. You then meet with all parties and all sign the document that explains the property that is being transferred. Generally there is also a realtor involved. The fees (notary, realtor etc) to consider are roughly 4-6% of the property value.

  • @arlenerodriguez333
    @arlenerodriguez333 Рік тому +1

    I’m currently trying to purchase a property in Chiati, Italy I’ve sent 5 emails directly to sales person and have not gotten a response I don’t know what todo is this customary . I’m a Real Estate sales person in America and that’s not something we do we respond with in hours of an interested possible customer. Any advise

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому

      Oh gosh! Maybe try our agent Tara Atkinson. If you send me an email I can get you her information.

  • @JefitoBazanella
    @JefitoBazanella Рік тому +1

    Great video, I’ve been planning on buying one or two properties in Italy here soon. My biggest question is with managing the Italian mortgage. Do you have any suggestions on banks? Also I always thought that I needed minimum 40% for the down payment, but you explained that you put down 10%. Can i buy a home in Italy with 10 or 20% down as a US citizen buying in Italy?? Thank you for your help.

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому +1

      We're so glad you enjoyed our video! We're not sure how borrowing money here works as we paid cash for our house. The down payment was to secure the offer and here in Italy if the buyer fails to proceed he loses his money and if the seller fails to proceed the buyer gets his money back double! Pretty cool little deal.

    • @JefitoBazanella
      @JefitoBazanella Рік тому +1

      @@ouritaliandestiny7955 thank you for the info. That seems in line with what I had previously knew, but I was hoping you guys knew something different about borrowing and mortgage down payments. Look forward to your future videos.

    • @stijnt2377
      @stijnt2377 Рік тому +1

      @@JefitoBazanella As a follow up, we did inquire about getting a mortgage for a second home here and there was a 40% down payment requirement (max 60% loan to value). Additionally, mortgages have a limit on the age of the borrower (mortgage timeline cannot exceed 80 years of age for any borrower) and in order to get a slightly better rate there was a requirement to have a monthly amount direct deposited into the associated bank account. This would have gotten us about a 6% rate (6 months ago) which was still pretty terrible so we didn't proceed.

    • @JefitoBazanella
      @JefitoBazanella Рік тому

      @@stijnt2377 thank you for the information!! This also seems to be the same info as what I had researched before. The only difference was I didn’t realize that the rate was so high. I will have to continue to search around for mortgage rates in Italy.

  • @andreasan3605
    @andreasan3605 9 місяців тому +1

    Is it easier to buy before or after you've become an expat
    ?

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  9 місяців тому

      You can buy a house at any point, but there are a few requirements. We had to have a codice fiscale which is a sort of social security number for starters. Because we didn't need a loan I'm not sure if there are other requirements or not.
      We would recommend renting in the beginning so you can get a feel for the area and what you really want in a property.

  • @michaabborrero2240
    @michaabborrero2240 Рік тому +1

    How are taxes handled in Italy? Do you have to report anything to the US?

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому +1

      The US is one of the few countries that requires you to always file a tax return regardless of where you live. Italy has some agreements with the US regarding certain income types and how those are taxed. There is some debate about social security income but we are fortunate that the taxation of our income is done in the US since it's a government employment retirement. I would suggest you speak to a tax accountant (called commercialista in Italy) prior to moving if the taxes are a big factor. Generally speaking you should expect taxes to be higher wherever you move as a US citizen, what you 'get' for your taxes is generally also higher.
      Now that we are residents in Italy we will have to start filing taxes over here as well.

  • @jennarare
    @jennarare Рік тому +3

    Hi there Debby and Stijn, seriously working on moving to Italy from Australia and loving all of your videos! Congratulations on your decison to stay and purchase an awesome property! And great renovations! As have a long question wondering if you'd share an email address please? All best and keep enjoying under the Umbrian sun! : )

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому +1

      So happy to hear that you're enjoying our videos Jenna! Our email is debbieandstijn@outlook.com Hope to hear from you soon!! Debbie and Stijn

  • @jongoldman2216
    @jongoldman2216 Рік тому +1

    How are you able to come there for 7 months continuous?

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому

      Stijn is an EU citizen, born and raised in Belgium and I have a Belgian residence card good for 5 years! Great question! 💞🇮🇹

  • @lamboabdelfattah4276
    @lamboabdelfattah4276 Рік тому +1

    Is financing an option? Or all cash is the only option

  • @Freedom384
    @Freedom384 Рік тому +1

    How to u get renew visa live there ? Only can have 3month visa for visited 🤔🤔🤔

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому

      Stijn is an EU citizen and I was able to get a residency visa for 5 years because I'm his wife😊

  • @yanaaspen
    @yanaaspen Рік тому +1

    Hi, can you tell me please how much this house???? ❤❤❤

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому

      185,000 euros💞🇮🇹

    • @yanaaspen
      @yanaaspen Рік тому +1

      @@ouritaliandestiny7955 wow it is good price i thought in this place price from 5000000

  • @dezafinado
    @dezafinado Рік тому +1

    Do you need to be an EU passport holder to purchase a home in Italy?

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому

      Great question. Absolutely not.

    • @dezafinado
      @dezafinado Рік тому

      Thanks... you visited the Piemonte. Did you also consider that region too?

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому +1

      We did consider it briefly but between the cold winters, very steep and narrow roads and relatively high cost of living we never really looked at it too closely. It was also the very first region we saw in Italy so perhaps mentally we weren't ready yet to commit 😊

  • @RVWeekendsRC1
    @RVWeekendsRC1 Рік тому +1

    Hello 👋

  • @mjbowhunter
    @mjbowhunter 10 місяців тому

    is it hard to get around if you don't speak Italian

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  10 місяців тому +1

      Not really. If you at least know the basics like me (Debbie) you can at least shop, go to the bakery etc. But it will be important to speak the language if your having work done. We needed a translator in the beginning but Stijn took Italian lessons and he can converse with everyone! No translator needed.

    • @mjbowhunter
      @mjbowhunter 10 місяців тому +1

      @@ouritaliandestiny7955 Thanks for the reply, that helps....we are planning a trip to Italy for about a month to see how we like it. Need to start taking some classes now before we go.

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  10 місяців тому

      @@mjbowhunter Good idea! Let us know if you will be n Umbria, it's beautiful here💞🇮🇹

  • @wonderwhy224
    @wonderwhy224 Рік тому +1

    No notary?

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому +1

      Oh yes! It was a long drawn out process the day we signed at the notaio's office💕🇮🇹

    • @wonderwhy224
      @wonderwhy224 Рік тому +1

      @@ouritaliandestiny7955 Thank you, but not on the same day with the owners? I want to buy a house in Abruzzo and i don`t want to do anything wrong. So thank you very much for sharing your experience! 🥰 I already knew most of what you told, except for the Olives...no olive trees at the house i want to buy 😀 Did you have an english speaking notary or went it thru a translator?

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому

      @@wonderwhy224 Yes, we were together with the owners, very common here. Our translator was our realtor. The papers are read in detail, in Italian and English! I think the process took about 2-3 hours.
      Wishing you the best in the purchase of your new Italian home💕🇮🇹

    • @wonderwhy224
      @wonderwhy224 Рік тому +1

      @@ouritaliandestiny7955 Gracie Mille ❣

  • @niceone1020
    @niceone1020 Рік тому +1

    Does the current political climate in Italy concern you at all. We are visiting very soon and were planning to find a place to retire, and suddenly I'm seeing so much concerning a very radical political situation happening. Will this adversely affect expats retired there?

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  Рік тому

      We honestly don't even know what's going on here politically. So no concerns here.

    • @niceone1020
      @niceone1020 Рік тому +1

      @@ouritaliandestiny7955 I hope it won't keep us from moving there. Currently, the news here says it is the first time someone so radical is being elected since Mussolini. Thanks for replying

    • @erinjames4024
      @erinjames4024 Рік тому +1

      Things are only going to get better in Italy, & worldwide!

  • @marilombardi7120
    @marilombardi7120 Рік тому +1

    Are you his wife or mom?

  • @spaniardsrmoors6817
    @spaniardsrmoors6817 10 місяців тому

    Stop with the exaggerated stereotypes, worse bureaucracy in the world is pure NONSENSE. There are many worse countries just in the EU.

    • @ouritaliandestiny7955
      @ouritaliandestiny7955  10 місяців тому

      All we have is our personal experience, which we share on this channel. Despite some of the struggles we face with burocracy in Italy we are still super happy to have made the decisions we made since all of the other aspects easily make up for this.