The difference is between making a tone that sounds good to your ear, and a tone that fits in a mix. Generally you'll need a lot more harshness and ugly top end to make it sound good with bass and drums underneath.
I bought an FM3 and I have to be honest, it’s nice to have the ability to tweak but there’s so many parameters that can be adjusted with each block, it’s easy to get lost and not know where to start just to make a quick and easy adjustment. Sometimes just can’t beat the ease of use of plugging in to a great sounding amp with a few knobs to get where you want to be. Sounds great, learned something from your technique, thanks man!
I think a lot of your high end fizz comes from having your Bright switch turned on for a lot of them and I often turn it off on my XL +. I also turn the amp saturation to authentic and make sure the tone stack is the same as the amp and not default. I find that really helps with the realism
Fractal = great tool for sound design/audio engineer but also lots of faffing about to find that tone instead of getting on with your playing ... Option paralysis
Richard Williams i have the AxeFX II I still use my 5150 with Cab, just something about the real tube with cab that I always come back to, for recording I love my Axe though, but you’re right it’s endless tweaking.
Awesome tools. Can't go too wrong with a 5150 for rock and metal riffage. Everyone says sound in the room but I'm sure feel and dynamics too. It inspires you to play more, getting into the jam. Modelling & profiling products, pedals and multi effects all help to sculpt the tone further or try gear that you may not have space for in your home, studio or playing live and also let you play gear that you would otherwise may never get to try in real life be it due to being too expensive or rarity of that piece of gear or may help you choose buying more analog gear too. Same for cabinet impulse responses, it may help you find a speaker & cabinet that you really love and you may end up buying it. Axe FX and other products are like the guitarist equivalent of a smart phone, almost everything you need in one box
This is what presets are for. Spend a day learning the III, and then spend another day and make a dozen presets from scratch. Then when its jammy time, you don't touch anything but the power button. Fractal gear sounds phenomenal as a preamp through a good FX loop and tube power section with big cabs. Its only as crazy as you want it to be. Its definitely harder dialing in tones through studio monitors with IRs than just routing it into some guitar gear. Or...spend another day and route it 4CM through your favorite amp, and the world of tOaNZ just got thick in the warm. This is HIGHLY worth doing right if you got all the pieces.
It would be fun to have oodles of gear at your disposal to test all the options but many of us don't have room to have lots of products. Therefore one innovative piece of gear capable of creating great tones and giving you the equivalent of a studio full of gear in one box makes alot of sense for many of us. No worries about all the cables and the problems that can occur from bad patch cables or ground loops also makes it a very practical option from bedroom players right through to professional gigging muscians
That baritone is so sick. It might be interesting to do more videos like this but do different genres, sub genres of metal and hardcore, or specific bands.
Agree with the LPF around 9k. I always high pass between 80-120 otherwise you fight the bass guitar. Easier to go live and record when it’s already taken care of from the source. Just how I personally do things.
Arghhh, great video!! I'm all set to buy a JP2C for my birthday this year, now suddenly I'm considering the Axe FX 3 instead. :-/. I think with the JP2C I probably won't need my boss EQ anymore, my reverb pedal anymore, guessing maybe not even my tube screamer. Just a chorus and delay in the loop and wah in front and it should sound great....Axe Fx looks like I could be busy for years tinkering though and I love that stuff!!! So....conflicted...
Hey, Fluff! I just got an Axe FX II XL and I’m loving it, this video helped a lot. However, I seem to know a good amount about amps and drive pedals but I know nothing about EQ. I know you covered some of it in this video but could you do a video that’s like EQ, dBs, levels etc because I seriously have no idea how to dial in a tone 😂
I'm watching this for the third time, but I'm skipping the 'talkie' parts and replaying the tones. Oh my good gracious Lord. You have been touched by Thor. Wait...are you him? No matter. Great vid. Great tone.
Great tones. Did you know I still use Bias FX 1, with a few external pedals at times, and I can still achieve pretty sick tonnage. For someone on a budget like myself, I'm happy with the results. *At least for home use that is.
A lot of people using amp modelers will leave amp controls at 12 'oclock then shape with eq. Then they will do very minor tweaks to amp controls....very minor
I really appreciate your videos! Can you please make a video showing how to use Axe lll with amp head and cabinet , i mean the way to hook them up ? thanks
Not trying to steal your customers or anything ^^ but for Axe FX 3 tips specifically check out Leon Todd's Channel. Great tips, tutorials etc. on how to use the tools provided by fractal audio for an efficient "work flow". For example you can pin the cab picker, and then just click through the cabs and check out how they affect your preset without going back and forth. If you use the built in looper, you don't even have to play to do this ... he has lots of stuff like that :)
I have two 1960s one with ElectroVoice Black Label Speakers and one with Celestion 65’s 🤘🤘I definitely like it more than my buddy’s Mesa with V30s something about Vintage tone is just way better than the constant modern push...but it seems everyone just wants a Rectifier more than a Plexi these days...what they don’t know is that a 808 in front of a Plexi is the darkest sounding heart thumping paradise ever created
Or a Kemper. You plug in and play with the sound and feel of 1 Million tube amps without trying to "make" it sound good. Every minute of tweaking is a lost minute.
Good morning everybody I do hope you guys are having a fantastic day, please be good to one another and take care of your family. Be safe. With your endeavors and just love people. God bless and peace out!
And this is why I stopped using amp modeling and bought a real amplifier. I’d rather have one great tone that I love and use all the time than a million combinations of different amps, cabs, and mics and no easy way to pick them except by laborious trial and error.
design one great tone that you love and use all the time, and be safe in the knowledge that if you ever need anything else you can do it properly. Your back will thank you, and so will every sound engineer.
It sounds plastic..but also thick and dark and its nice I can say.Its not like real amp but don't care because AxeFx3 has something dark and I like it.
Where’s the stereo width? It sounds like a mono track. I’m so used to using MDA Psuedo Stereo then Stereo Width at the end of my chain in Reaper, that tracks or tone without it sound flat.
Serious question: I really want to learn how to navigate building tones and anticipating what rearranging and tweaking a guitar pedal chain will do in real life and Bias and/or AxeFX, so is anyone aware of a really great tutorial to help build the logic behind guitar tone? Willing to shell out a good hundred bucks for that if needed.
Samuel Carter “guitar tone” is really broad, classic distortion, modern distortion, blues crunch, many styles of clean. Bias and axe are good cus with one unit you can make almost any tone, but if your going to buy amps and pedals it’s not going to be as flexible
It's bugging me that he didn't mess with the levels of the cabs to bring out certain characteristics of each mic, it sounded good but that's just my OCD acting up. Lol
the wolfiest of wolves yeah i know but an axe fx can be very usefull in many way... btw i have a mesaboogie roadster and a evh 5150 6L6 100w i got everything here.
Well, there's a reason why that combo has the status it does. And the Fractal into your 2:Ninety with 2 Boogie cabs in stereo will absolutely sound as good, its not the same with all the shit in the chain between his guitar and your playback device...trust me, its AMAZING
Advantage of this modeling amp is ease of use and practicality but It’s nowhere near the sounds of my Mesa JP-2C. That amp has character and balls. Axe FX to me sounds dry and thin, sorry. 😕
On a youtube video it sounds thin as everything does, in person it freaking sounds amazing. I'm never carrying a 80lbs halfstack or a 160 pound svt fridge to gigs ever again. period!
Great to see the FAS Modern models get some love, that sounds THICC.
P.S NiCe ClEaN tOaN fLuFf.
The difference is between making a tone that sounds good to your ear, and a tone that fits in a mix. Generally you'll need a lot more harshness and ugly top end to make it sound good with bass and drums underneath.
i sort of agree. i've also found that you should have a little less gain than you think
I agree
Hence why I never hear the axefx in a mix in live shows
Derek Licon Petrucci uses an Axe Fx3 with his Mesas in DT’s latest tour, and I’d say that he overpowers the rest of the band live.
Wrong lol
It really hurts me right in the soul that you kept leaving that OD at a 5 drive. Bring the drive down and crank the tone to clean it up! 👻
Any other tips
Seriously this was driving me nuts
Me too.... That is like tone pedal 101.
Nice clean tone as always, Fluff! ;)
HAHAHAHAHA, BRO! YOURE HILARIOUS! U A COMEDIAN?!?!?
@@hellodumplings8564 turns out its harder than being a UA-cam douche bag.
@@adambickford8720 I'd rather be a douchebag than a gay fluffer
@@behindthen0thing Sure, but we all know you'll do both.
I bought an FM3 and I have to be honest, it’s nice to have the ability to tweak but there’s so many parameters that can be adjusted with each block, it’s easy to get lost and not know where to start just to make a quick and easy adjustment. Sometimes just can’t beat the ease of use of plugging in to a great sounding amp with a few knobs to get where you want to be. Sounds great, learned something from your technique, thanks man!
I think a lot of your high end fizz comes from having your Bright switch turned on for a lot of them and I often turn it off on my XL +. I also turn the amp saturation to authentic and make sure the tone stack is the same as the amp and not default. I find that really helps with the realism
This was OUTSTANDING! most informative vid you’ve done in a while. Could you do another just like this with the Helix?
Thanks so much Fluff! I've been trying to figure out how to get rid of that fizz, this just opened up a whole new world for me!
Now i suddenly feel like getting an Axe Fx
check leon todd's channel. That guy can dial amazing tones on the mark III unit.
I would buy one if it wasn't expensive as fuck
Nice tone. I use the FAS Brootalz amp in my main tone on the AX8. Gets close to a Randall Satan.
Fluff's eyes looking magical in the intro uh er I mean YES! TONES!
Awesome video. I love my axe III and always love seeing how others dial a tone with it.
KILLER BRUTHA!!!!
This might be the most helpful video I've ever seen. Excellent job, Fluff! I'm gonna try this same process with my AxeFX
How did it work for you?
Just subscribed. You always speak clear and play well without being show off. Well done!
Fractal = great tool for sound design/audio engineer but also lots of faffing about to find that tone instead of getting on with your playing ... Option paralysis
Richard Williams i have the AxeFX II
I still use my 5150 with Cab, just something about the real tube with cab that I always come back to, for recording I love my Axe though, but you’re right it’s endless tweaking.
Awesome tools. Can't go too wrong with a 5150 for rock and metal riffage. Everyone says sound in the room but I'm sure feel and dynamics too. It inspires you to play more, getting into the jam. Modelling & profiling products, pedals and multi effects all help to sculpt the tone further or try gear that you may not have space for in your home, studio or playing live and also let you play gear that you would otherwise may never get to try in real life be it due to being too expensive or rarity of that piece of gear or may help you choose buying more analog gear too. Same for cabinet impulse responses, it may help you find a speaker & cabinet that you really love and you may end up buying it. Axe FX and other products are like the guitarist equivalent of a smart phone, almost everything you need in one box
This is what presets are for. Spend a day learning the III, and then spend another day and make a dozen presets from scratch.
Then when its jammy time, you don't touch anything but the power button. Fractal gear sounds phenomenal as a preamp through a good FX loop and tube power section with big cabs.
Its only as crazy as you want it to be. Its definitely harder dialing in tones through studio monitors with IRs than just routing it into some guitar gear.
Or...spend another day and route it 4CM through your favorite amp, and the world of tOaNZ just got thick in the warm. This is HIGHLY worth doing right if you got all the pieces.
It would be fun to have oodles of gear at your disposal to test all the options but many of us don't have room to have lots of products. Therefore one innovative piece of gear capable of creating great tones and giving you the equivalent of a studio full of gear in one box makes alot of sense for many of us. No worries about all the cables and the problems that can occur from bad patch cables or ground loops also makes it a very practical option from bedroom players right through to professional gigging muscians
That baritone is so sick. It might be interesting to do more videos like this but do different genres, sub genres of metal and hardcore, or specific bands.
I have an axe Fx 3 and love the versatility.
Agree with the LPF around 9k. I always high pass between 80-120 otherwise you fight the bass guitar. Easier to go live and record when it’s already taken care of from the source. Just how I personally do things.
Arghhh, great video!! I'm all set to buy a JP2C for my birthday this year, now suddenly I'm considering the Axe FX 3 instead. :-/. I think with the JP2C I probably won't need my boss EQ anymore, my reverb pedal anymore, guessing maybe not even my tube screamer. Just a chorus and delay in the loop and wah in front and it should sound great....Axe Fx looks like I could be busy for years tinkering though and I love that stuff!!! So....conflicted...
Hey, Fluff! I just got an Axe FX II XL and I’m loving it, this video helped a lot. However, I seem to know a good amount about amps and drive pedals but I know nothing about EQ. I know you covered some of it in this video but could you do a video that’s like EQ, dBs, levels etc because I seriously have no idea how to dial in a tone 😂
I'm watching this for the third time, but I'm skipping the 'talkie' parts and replaying the tones. Oh my good gracious Lord. You have been touched by Thor. Wait...are you him? No matter. Great vid. Great tone.
Excellent sounds great is always fluff.
I love the look of the neck on that Music Man.
If you click the "thumbtack" icon on the amp or cab menu it will stay on top while you try out different amps
Great tones. Did you know I still use Bias FX 1, with a few external pedals at times, and I can still achieve pretty sick tonnage. For someone on a budget like myself, I'm happy with the results. *At least for home use that is.
Why doesnt he play with amp eq's when testing amps? That's how normally people shape their tone with gear
A lot of people using amp modelers will leave amp controls at 12 'oclock then shape with eq. Then they will do very minor tweaks to amp controls....very minor
That's how I get my tones on my Kemper, with the secondary eq.
why does your BASS have 6 strings? weird.
slap ur ass 504 times
FUNNY FUNNY FUNNY FUNN
finaaaaaly a decent good video after a long time
I really appreciate your videos! Can you please make a video showing how to use Axe lll with amp head and cabinet , i mean the way to hook them up ? thanks
That axis baritone is sweet!
you should do a high gain tone for the helix next.
here it is: ua-cam.com/video/JAmjXqA4lF8/v-deo.html
do you prefer the axe or the helix ?
You have done me a great service.
Blergh. Try 393 - mic distance 158.2mm + 316 (no settings change) Just noticed I'm still in 2.04, haven't felt the need to upgrade so far.
Not trying to steal your customers or anything ^^ but for Axe FX 3 tips specifically check out Leon Todd's Channel. Great tips, tutorials etc. on how to use the tools provided by fractal audio for an efficient "work flow". For example you can pin the cab picker, and then just click through the cabs and check out how they affect your preset without going back and forth. If you use the built in looper, you don't even have to play to do this ... he has lots of stuff like that :)
Im waiting for the mini fractal tbh. I've always wanted a AX8, and i believe the fractal fm3 will be just as good
Awesome tutorial!! Thanks fluff
This is the first video of the Axe Fx 3 that I thought it didn't sound quite good. Maybe the IR was poor-ish? Thanks for the video Fluff
Very helpful, thank you so much!!!!👍
Definitely do more vids like this dialing in tones :D
That musicman is pure fire
Awesome video Fluff! I would kill to have the Axe FX III
13:15 I think that's my issue with the axefx, they sound kinda dry and not enough thickness to my ears ? Maybe it's just me I guess
Wow man I'm impressed! You got that shit down! Great tone! 🤘🤘🤘
trying to decide: Kemper or Axe fx 3 Need opinions. heard good from both
Marshall 1960v cab > mesa recto cab dont @ me.
guitarboy4000000 Forreal though! I’d put my 1960 against any cab out there
Best 5150 tones to ever come out of a 5150 have been through the 1960v cabs. The mesas are great but so over used.
I actually like the 1960 stuff. Especially if they have different speakers in there but the ones that come with it are still cool.
wheresallthezombies i was just talking about the ones with the marshall spec v30s
I have two 1960s one with ElectroVoice Black Label Speakers and one with Celestion 65’s 🤘🤘I definitely like it more than my buddy’s Mesa with V30s something about Vintage tone is just way better than the constant modern push...but it seems everyone just wants a Rectifier more than a Plexi these days...what they don’t know is that a 808 in front of a Plexi is the darkest sounding heart thumping paradise ever created
is it much easier just to buy a gut sounding amp?
Yeah but it's wayyy less versatile
Or a Kemper. You plug in and play with the sound and feel of 1 Million tube amps without trying to "make" it sound good. Every minute of tweaking is a lost minute.
Using post eq to sculpt your time. Pro tip!!!!
Do any of you guys have any tips with learning how to use an axe fx? I just got one and there’s a huuuuge learning curve
I’ll have to give this patch a try , sounds decent on my phone
EVH 5150 thru 1960Marshall v30 4x12 vs JPIIC+ through Recto v30 4x12😈🤘
1960 Marshall cabs dont have v30's. I think those have gt75's.
@@bradhargis2261 1690 av are loaded with v30
I wonder if I can do this with my zoom ms-50g 😂
Why not??
You do this with your zoom and I'll do it with my vox stomplab 2g! Chug on
Sure you can. In the live mix you wont hear the difference.
Good morning everybody I do hope you guys are having a fantastic day, please be good to one another and take care of your family. Be safe. With your endeavors and just love people. God bless and peace out!
Which is the best fender
Sounds nothing like my Gorilla combo amp and Metal Zone = ultimate shred tone \m/
Im using the FAS Modern 2 in my patch. Its heavy!
Anybody know why I don’t see recto 4x12 or any 4x12 cabs on my list ? I’m using the unit itself not the axe edit..
That energyball sounded nasty
i have axe fx II so not sure if it's the same on the III but the trick is dial mids down to 0-3 depending on taste and hit the fat switch.
I need one of these bad boys.
And this is why I stopped using amp modeling and bought a real amplifier. I’d rather have one great tone that I love and use all the time than a million combinations of different amps, cabs, and mics and no easy way to pick them except by laborious trial and error.
design one great tone that you love and use all the time, and be safe in the knowledge that if you ever need anything else you can do it properly. Your back will thank you, and so will every sound engineer.
When are we going to see more of Josh WIldhorn?
It sounds plastic..but also thick and dark and its nice I can say.Its not like real amp but don't care because AxeFx3 has something dark and I like it.
Good good sh** please keep making videos. You should make a video of getting a grunge/stoner tone
Helix or axe effects???
Please make a video making a metal bass sound with the axe fx 3
Love this
How about a deftones setting?
woah. this is weird but ive never noticed your eyes before, superblue
Where’s the stereo width? It sounds like a mono track. I’m so used to using MDA Psuedo Stereo then Stereo Width at the end of my chain in Reaper, that tracks or tone without it sound flat.
Could you maybe dial a tone in on BIAS FX II??
Hey Fluff, just got a UA arrow (first interface) might we see a vid of your favorite plugins?
Nice...Universal gear is the best, great choice dude.
Tuning? Drop B?
Line6 is crying right now. Did Fractal give you a gift?
It really wasn't Fluff doing this. It was the Evil Mini Fluff. You know its him when see an inset block. He's evil.
Vampire eyes aaaaaah!
Stef pick-ups 🤙🤙🤙
Is there an EQ setting that dials out the barking dog? 😂
Love you man...
New logo looks eerily similar to the beard brand..
Watching you leave the gain on the drive pedal up is driving me insane
Serious question: I really want to learn how to navigate building tones and anticipating what rearranging and tweaking a guitar pedal chain will do in real life and Bias and/or AxeFX, so is anyone aware of a really great tutorial to help build the logic behind guitar tone? Willing to shell out a good hundred bucks for that if needed.
Samuel Carter “guitar tone” is really broad, classic distortion, modern distortion, blues crunch, many styles of clean. Bias and axe are good cus with one unit you can make almost any tone, but if your going to buy amps and pedals it’s not going to be as flexible
Let's see you chase down Jerry Cantrell's Dirt tone!
Sounds totally wrong, too harsh, no bass, no mids, and no tight...sorry but this time I'm not agree
Ambient tone please!!
It's bugging me that he didn't mess with the levels of the cabs to bring out certain characteristics of each mic, it sounded good but that's just my OCD acting up. Lol
Each cab block already does that in the Axe Fx III so there’s no need adjusting the level of the cabs opposed to the Axe II
So many great sounding amp options!
O boy..I just put a bias Fx 2 with Third party Ir’s ..The results are just faster And sound less harsh fizz..
I need to get an axe fx
Why does your BASS have 6 strings? Weird.
axe-fx is just too much option paralysis. don't you guys think?
I agree. But if you know what you want, process can be easier
I heard literally very little difference lol what’s the point of all those things? They all pretty much sounded the same. Some more loud than others.
Cool clean tone
I think about buying one all the time but if i do that i fear i will not use my amp anymore... Guitarist struggle...
Use a real amp. You want something better than an axe fx? Mesa boogie mark v 25... Any tone you want and its a tube amp .
the wolfiest of wolves yeah i know but an axe fx can be very usefull in many way... btw i have a mesaboogie roadster and a evh 5150 6L6 100w i got everything here.
@@MartinBrissonStudio nice! Yep that's all you need a roaster and evh and modern metal apps is set
But it doesn't sound anywhere near as good as my Mesa Triaxis with the 2:90 power amp!
Well, there's a reason why that combo has the status it does.
And the Fractal into your 2:Ninety with 2 Boogie cabs in stereo will absolutely sound as good, its not the same with all the shit in the chain between his guitar and your playback device...trust me, its AMAZING
metal enough for me :3
Oh hey
Advantage of this modeling amp is ease of use and practicality but It’s nowhere near the sounds of my Mesa JP-2C. That amp has character and balls. Axe FX to me sounds dry and thin, sorry. 😕
On a youtube video it sounds thin as everything does, in person it freaking sounds amazing. I'm never carrying a 80lbs halfstack or a 160 pound svt fridge to gigs ever again. period!
Hi
This sounds like a pod farm
"erecto cab"