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All this talk about the Maine war somehow made me think about the Burgundy-Liege war, which was pretty much a scripted event in 1.33 or 1.34. Good times.
@@rimreldIt was result of a bug that Burgundy didn't calculate the Emperor's allies power properly (they treated him as not-cobelligerent). It got fixed later. And the reason why it was Burgundy-Liege specifically was because Burgundy's ruler has the reckless attacker trait (or whatever it's called) and needs Liege for a mission or something. At least that's the explanation I remember.
About the alliance, it makes complete sense: You have English and French cores. Neither England nor France have reasons to hate eachother at the moment because you own all the lands they desire. They share rivals (including you). They have not been at war. They aren't allied to any of eachothers rivals. They cannot ally other strong nations because those nations are your allies. And interestingly: They are not coded to be historical rivals.
People always say "the AI targets the player" forgetting that they are a war monger and that is the cause of it and not the fact that the nation is played by a human.
Valencia lost 2 Champions League finals in a row in 2000 and 2001. In Paris and Milan against Real Madrid and Bayern Munich. Take those 4 cities and win what was lost 24 years ago!
24:00 When you do a reconquest war and you cede provinces to the vassal that was not the vassal whose CB was used to declare the war you pay full AE cost, but if you instead give them the provinces through the return core button you get the 25% AE from the CB (and you get the returned province modifier for less liberty desire). So in this case optimal peace offering would be cede provinces to Gascony (cede is cheaper on warscore than return I believe?), and return provinces to Brittany. You can also use return on both if you want to give Gascony the minus liberty desire. 99% sure I'm correct here but if I'm not my memory is a liar sometimes.
Whether cede province and return cores are cheaper depend on province warscore cost bonus of you and your subject. Return core uses the overlord's bonus and cede province uses the subject's. Also when he's fighting a reconquest war, using return core on non-wargoal subjects can give him the 75% warscore cost bonus so he could've used less warscore for the peace deal. But Hawk would never used that option. Everyone has been telling him return core is better since the beginning of his career and I think he's just too stubborn to admit it at this point.
@@iquabakaner I've definitely left this exact comment before, I swear every time I get amnesia and type it out anyways because it drives me nuts. Why take extra AE you don't have to? And yeah the subject warscore thing makes sense I'd never figured that out.
I'm not surprised England and France ended up allying. Notice at @1:31 they were not rivals at game start. And then with the surrender of Maine war not happening they never ended up getting into a major conflict or owning each others' cores, so no reason to hate each other. Just goes to show how the player can push AI countries into alternate, ahistorical feelings about each other.
@@TheFraps1 Which is funny because in 1444 France and Austria couldn't care less about each other. Their rivalry only came later over the Burgundian inheritance.
play as a north west, north american migrant tribe and take over every province that touches the pacific ocean. call it THE RING OF FIRE. you would have to defend and contend with European colonizers and also invade asia.
English always cedes Maine if it's in a war or a disaster. Otherwise they have a 75% chance of refusing. If this happens, then france has a 100 out of 101 chance of making the war start, but if they are at war or in a disaster they don't.
You got Burgundy as PU in 1488 and the horse event happened in 1526. IIRC the event becomes impossible after 40 years so you got it just in time basically
There are more cities called Valencia in the world nowadays and most of them are located on Philippines. You should own these beacuse of this and because you are breaking free from Aragon which famous ruler was Philip of Aragon.
10:00 Hawk, when it comes to vassalizing small nations, like what you did with Brittany, instead of vassalizing them in the peace deal, take their province and release them, that way you won't incur the negative relations modifier. There's a few things to be mindful of when doing this instead of vassalizing them in the peace deal, that the province you're taking is the right culture so you actually can release them from it after the war (in this case it was) and it will be a little more aggressive expansion (like two or three more with nearby countries) but overall it would've been a more sound strategy in this run. Great video, as always. Edit: Another thing to consider is coring range but that wasn't an issue here as you had sea-tile adjacency.
That depends, you might want them to keep their Armies/Navies/tech/ideas, as when full annexed they lose all those and gain your tech, and random ideas
@@micahbonewell5994 That is true in the case of vassals/subjects like Portugal, who would colonize the world for you but vassalizing simply for reconquest wars (which to be fair is like 90% of vassal play) then annexing then releasing makes it easier to integrate them. Especially when playing in a region like India where there's a LOT of small to medium nations to reconquest.
Red Hawk: *beats on England and France in wars with the intent of beating them even more and take more of their territories* Also Red Hawk: Why would they ally each other?
Was also my thought. So he has to own cores on Leon and Galicia, Navarra as a vassal and lands in mauretania. As he was some kind of warlord, he should be allowed mercs only for this campaign.
as valencia you should first expand in the mahgreb for dev and then as a bonus conquer Paris because its where Balenciaga was created (it sounds like valencia)
Kind of. He rolled Osnabrück, clicked "remove", then the next on the list was Paderborn - that's why Paderborn was also still on the list. Happy to see, that someone gave him the info. :-)
Valencian Paella Empire - Valencia frying pan empire, own all coastal provinces in Mediterranean sea + be leading producer in Wheat, because frying pan needs rice. Bonus: dont take any non coastal provinces (Aragon is exception because you have to kill your former overlord).
AI Calls Me To Arms? Yeah, that's fine. I won't be helping but you got it kid. I Call AI to Arms? Yeah, that's fine. I won't be helping but you got it kid. Also, shouldn't France have historical rival more towards England than Austria?
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Did WW1 Germany write the video title?
Lmao
Crimean War Russia too
All this talk about the Maine war somehow made me think about the Burgundy-Liege war, which was pretty much a scripted event in 1.33 or 1.34. Good times.
yea what happened to that, i remember early in A-Z it's basically the B story in most episodes.
@@rimreldIt was result of a bug that Burgundy didn't calculate the Emperor's allies power properly (they treated him as not-cobelligerent). It got fixed later. And the reason why it was Burgundy-Liege specifically was because Burgundy's ruler has the reckless attacker trait (or whatever it's called) and needs Liege for a mission or something. At least that's the explanation I remember.
I hated it but I miss it now
@@TheRedHawk Same, man, same.
I remember that.
About the alliance, it makes complete sense:
You have English and French cores. Neither England nor France have reasons to hate eachother at the moment because you own all the lands they desire. They share rivals (including you). They have not been at war. They aren't allied to any of eachothers rivals. They cannot ally other strong nations because those nations are your allies. And interestingly: They are not coded to be historical rivals.
People always say "the AI targets the player" forgetting that they are a war monger and that is the cause of it and not the fact that the nation is played by a human.
14:40 straight up cast iron pilled season maxing
25:36 this is the laugh of a thoroughly broken man.
Valencia lost 2 Champions League finals in a row in 2000 and 2001. In Paris and Milan against Real Madrid and Bayern Munich. Take those 4 cities and win what was lost 24 years ago!
There are no specific goals in A-Z, only releasables.
@@Txm_Dxr_Bxss and this is releasables
24:00 When you do a reconquest war and you cede provinces to the vassal that was not the vassal whose CB was used to declare the war you pay full AE cost, but if you instead give them the provinces through the return core button you get the 25% AE from the CB (and you get the returned province modifier for less liberty desire). So in this case optimal peace offering would be cede provinces to Gascony (cede is cheaper on warscore than return I believe?), and return provinces to Brittany. You can also use return on both if you want to give Gascony the minus liberty desire. 99% sure I'm correct here but if I'm not my memory is a liar sometimes.
It also doesn't revoke the original countries core if you do it through cede provinces.
Whether cede province and return cores are cheaper depend on province warscore cost bonus of you and your subject. Return core uses the overlord's bonus and cede province uses the subject's. Also when he's fighting a reconquest war, using return core on non-wargoal subjects can give him the 75% warscore cost bonus so he could've used less warscore for the peace deal.
But Hawk would never used that option. Everyone has been telling him return core is better since the beginning of his career and I think he's just too stubborn to admit it at this point.
@@iquabakaner I've definitely left this exact comment before, I swear every time I get amnesia and type it out anyways because it drives me nuts. Why take extra AE you don't have to? And yeah the subject warscore thing makes sense I'd never figured that out.
@iquabakaner I know I've pointed out this error about 5 times myself and I've seen countless others do it too.
As Valencia, have a goal to make sure Sweden has all (and only) Scandinavian provinces like you have mentioned in this video
23:40
British and German tourists be like :
The greatest threat to Europe is always Red Hawk
I'm not surprised England and France ended up allying. Notice at @1:31 they were not rivals at game start. And then with the surrender of Maine war not happening they never ended up getting into a major conflict or owning each others' cores, so no reason to hate each other. Just goes to show how the player can push AI countries into alternate, ahistorical feelings about each other.
Does france and england not have historic rival modifier? I havent played france or england yet and remember that byz and ottoman have the modifier
@@mikazuki2164 They do not have the historical rivals modifier towards eachother.
It's just AI being biased
@@mikazuki2164 France and *Austria* have the historical rivals modifier, not France and England.
@@TheFraps1 Which is funny because in 1444 France and Austria couldn't care less about each other. Their rivalry only came later over the Burgundian inheritance.
play as a north west, north american migrant tribe and take over every province that touches the pacific ocean. call it THE RING OF FIRE. you would have to defend and contend with European colonizers and also invade asia.
Nice playtrough! As always. :)
Nice Angevin empire!
English always cedes Maine if it's in a war or a disaster. Otherwise they have a 75% chance of refusing. If this happens, then france has a 100 out of 101 chance of making the war start, but if they are at war or in a disaster they don't.
You got Burgundy as PU in 1488 and the horse event happened in 1526. IIRC the event becomes impossible after 40 years so you got it just in time basically
"I'm seasoning my cast iron pan..."
Shut up and take my like!
I feel sad. But your video makes my things easier.
I been there dude, a cool video from a favourite UA-camr can be a little island of joy in a sea of crap sometimes.
There are more cities called Valencia in the world nowadays and most of them are located on Philippines. You should own these beacuse of this and because you are breaking free from Aragon which famous ruler was Philip of Aragon.
17:20 Isn't it the case that subjects (including PUs) generally have some force limit debuff?
10:00 Hawk, when it comes to vassalizing small nations, like what you did with Brittany, instead of vassalizing them in the peace deal, take their province and release them, that way you won't incur the negative relations modifier. There's a few things to be mindful of when doing this instead of vassalizing them in the peace deal, that the province you're taking is the right culture so you actually can release them from it after the war (in this case it was) and it will be a little more aggressive expansion (like two or three more with nearby countries) but overall it would've been a more sound strategy in this run. Great video, as always.
Edit: Another thing to consider is coring range but that wasn't an issue here as you had sea-tile adjacency.
That depends, you might want them to keep their Armies/Navies/tech/ideas, as when full annexed they lose all those and gain your tech, and random ideas
@@micahbonewell5994 That is true in the case of vassals/subjects like Portugal, who would colonize the world for you but vassalizing simply for reconquest wars (which to be fair is like 90% of vassal play) then annexing then releasing makes it easier to integrate them. Especially when playing in a region like India where there's a LOT of small to medium nations to reconquest.
Thank you for coring the provinces, bless you
I love Leander! He's always got such a joyful presence.
Now that sounds crazy
Giving Burgundy Liege in that war to stop them doing the classic Burgundy-Liege war
Red Hawk: *beats on England and France in wars with the intent of beating them even more and take more of their territories*
Also Red Hawk: Why would they ally each other?
As Valencia, can go the way of El Cid, return the realm to the Moorish camp.
Was also my thought. So he has to own cores on Leon and Galicia, Navarra as a vassal and lands in mauretania.
As he was some kind of warlord, he should be allowed mercs only for this campaign.
Ally the Maghreb guys to break free from Aragon xD
As Valencia, push into North and West Africa for the hell of it for the dev
Good stuff! A question though... what's up with the speed5 channel? Why is it inactive? Where do we go for the new season?
Since Valencia sounds like the mexican hot sauce Valentina as Valencia reclaim your valor and conquer all of mezoamerica and south America
as valencia you should first expand in the mahgreb for dev and then as a bonus conquer Paris because its where Balenciaga was created (it sounds like valencia)
18:51 Florry would have 1v2 them.
Yeah. Osnabrück is still open. You accidently played Paderborn instead of them (I think it was because of the same nation they are reeleased from)
Kind of. He rolled Osnabrück, clicked "remove", then the next on the list was Paderborn - that's why Paderborn was also still on the list. Happy to see, that someone gave him the info. :-)
Hawk is there a reason your vassalized Brittany vs. full annex release as vassal?
On the Wee-ki
France and England allying is rageeeeee
Day 10000 of asking for support Swedish independence side goal
It's not A to Z tho, the goals are always set for releasables
Nice
when did you lose Spain as a junior partner ? Did your dynasty change?
Valencian Paella Empire - Valencia frying pan empire, own all coastal provinces in Mediterranean sea + be leading producer in Wheat, because frying pan needs rice.
Bonus: dont take any non coastal provinces (Aragon is exception because you have to kill your former overlord).
This ain't A to Z chief
I am gaslighting him into doing challange dont expose me kind sir
Germany in WW1 be like :|
Alencon=Angevin Empire at home?
AI Calls Me To Arms? Yeah, that's fine. I won't be helping but you got it kid.
I Call AI to Arms? Yeah, that's fine. I won't be helping but you got it kid.
Also, shouldn't France have historical rival more towards England than Austria?
Day 6 of asking Hawk to do a Norse emperor of China run
Wait, this isn't Germany playthrough!
Valencia? Go colonial.
Hearing you say AlenSON hurts my ears.
Im First?)