One Day At Everyone's Favorite Chain Restaurant: Panda Express

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  • Опубліковано 27 гру 2015
  • On a bright day in the flats of San Gabriel Valley in Los Angeles, the busiest restaurant around is a Panda Express tucked into a shopping center dominated by a Walmart. Running a fast-food operation isn't like other restaurants - here, we dive into the big picture, the tiny systems, and the daily struggles of keeping a quick-service shop humming. Welcome to One Day at Panda Express.
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  • @guxcichancla7089
    @guxcichancla7089 2 роки тому +19

    Panda Express pays me EXTREMELY good and treats me very well. I love this franchise and appreciate all they have done for me

  • @Dan-wx8pq
    @Dan-wx8pq 8 років тому +151

    this panda express is located on walnut grove in rosemead, California . its literally right next door to corporate headquarters. there are a lot of asians working at this panda express because rosemead has a huge asian population. this chain is also cleaner because im sure since its nest to headquarters, they receive suprise visits more often from upper management.

    • @AmelieZh
      @AmelieZh 4 роки тому

      Dan Trinh I used to live in Rosemead....

    • @antonio7752
      @antonio7752 4 роки тому +3

      The way they scrubbed that kitchen I doubt it’s a clean one

    • @kaseem9114
      @kaseem9114 3 роки тому +2

      Actually, most stores get surprise visits from upper management, and all stores are and should be cleaned thoroughly everyday.

    • @terranceoakley8259
      @terranceoakley8259 2 роки тому

      I dont mean to be offtopic but does anybody know a trick to log back into an instagram account..?
      I stupidly lost my account password. I would love any assistance you can offer me.

    • @tristanhouston7140
      @tristanhouston7140 2 роки тому

      @Terrance Oakley instablaster :)

  • @emanuelmardueno2270
    @emanuelmardueno2270 4 роки тому +128

    When your watching this on your hour break from panda💀🐼💀

    • @tomiv9850
      @tomiv9850 3 роки тому +24

      Hour??? I only get 30 minutes!

    • @emanuelmardueno2270
      @emanuelmardueno2270 3 роки тому +4

      @@tomiv9850 yeah I get an hour break when I pull a double

    • @xo5347
      @xo5347 3 роки тому +7

      @@emanuelmardueno2270 do you guys get free food cause if you do... sign me up 😂

    • @jesusgrande1881
      @jesusgrande1881 3 роки тому

      @@xo5347 yes

    • @Shemp547
      @Shemp547 3 роки тому +1

      I get 10 mins

  • @wlcoston
    @wlcoston 8 років тому +186

    This is a glamorized video of what actually happens in these restaurants.

    • @bri3449
      @bri3449 8 років тому +33

      No this is how Panda Express is for mine. May be different from your location

    • @lucijohnson6655
      @lucijohnson6655 7 років тому +14

      the up tempo music makes it look like propaganda lol alls they needed to top it off is have the manager throw a big thumbs up for the camera

    • @gorrilamadman8602
      @gorrilamadman8602 4 роки тому +20

      I currently work for a Panda Express and pretty much everything in this video is correct, we really do deep scrub the floors and mop the walls

    • @Anonymous-ZR1
      @Anonymous-ZR1 3 роки тому +2

      @@gorrilamadman8602 i hate that part

    • @loudmein6591
      @loudmein6591 Рік тому +1

      What do you expect a day at work to be? Playtime? Crybabies everywhere

  • @EmjayMendez
    @EmjayMendez 7 років тому +46

    this makes me realize how much i hate working in the food industry.

  • @nicfong
    @nicfong 8 років тому +27

    Love the short and snappy story telling. Please continue with this series.

  • @METALMAN4Wii
    @METALMAN4Wii 5 років тому +47

    Dam that's how you run a Restaurant, Fast Friendly Clean.

  • @kimjongtrump3879
    @kimjongtrump3879 3 роки тому +9

    Lmao. No panda restaurant has this much staff. I wish I could work as slow as the people in this vid.

  • @chefmike9945
    @chefmike9945 8 років тому +5

    That was well done. Interesting series. I'll enjoy watching more. Happy New Year.

  • @rmeparatrooper8358
    @rmeparatrooper8358 8 років тому +33

    Hit the lights at 10 pm my rearend... More like 1 in the morning...

    • @xEmsXPhiiltzx
      @xEmsXPhiiltzx 5 років тому +2

      Mines is a mall we close at 7 but we get last minute customers who ask for fresh food 😤

    • @emanuelmardueno2270
      @emanuelmardueno2270 3 роки тому +1

      For a year we’ve been closing with just two people in the back

    • @snugzz
      @snugzz Рік тому

      @@emanuelmardueno2270how long does it usually take yall to close?

  • @viviane86zq
    @viviane86zq 8 років тому +2

    Thanks for the video, it's interesting to see the "behind the scene" operations

  • @nedyrb133
    @nedyrb133 8 років тому +2

    Cool series. Keep up the good work

  • @cpunching
    @cpunching 8 років тому

    Well made video. I'm really enjoying the video editing and shooting on this one.

  • @Sarahstarr1000
    @Sarahstarr1000 4 роки тому +2

    Great video.Thank you. I have an interview tomorrow, I hope I get it!

  • @soulxcutter
    @soulxcutter 8 років тому +1

    ya this one is in Rosemead. When i worked for usps this was on my route and it is super clean in there

  • @BaahBen
    @BaahBen 5 років тому

    Great video!

  • @spikecb22
    @spikecb22 8 років тому +6

    That place is clean af

  • @PeterAlbanese_
    @PeterAlbanese_ 8 років тому

    Wow what an amazing edited video

  • @ardz9276
    @ardz9276 7 років тому

    wow! love how clean they are......😆😆

  • @keisha5542
    @keisha5542 8 років тому

    my all time fave 😍

  • @clausnuve5600
    @clausnuve5600 6 років тому

    they clean very well

  • @drbluebarry
    @drbluebarry 7 років тому +12

    ding ding thaaaaaankyooouuuuuu

  • @Jordan-ws5vn
    @Jordan-ws5vn 8 років тому

    Reminds me of my closing days at the restaurant

  • @memadman
    @memadman 8 років тому +2

    They double the wok use as a cleaning bucket?

  • @drunkenek
    @drunkenek 8 років тому

    Great video! This mAde me want fried rice and work at Panda Express :)

  • @karabellaellaellaella
    @karabellaellaellaella 8 років тому +2

    Sean looks like John Cho 😍

  • @IvanTravels
    @IvanTravels 8 років тому

    Panda Express in Rosemead California ❤️

  • @trash9598
    @trash9598 6 років тому +4

    I'm living on Panda Express right now

  • @buanalangitbirutravel572
    @buanalangitbirutravel572 4 роки тому

    How to clean your wok and kitchen drag your mop up to make it faster and use a lot of water at the floor to make it even shines and slippery

  • @saltwestlo5023
    @saltwestlo5023 7 років тому +1

    It's Bangin Yo

  • @PaulDoVideosMan
    @PaulDoVideosMan 7 років тому +1

    I want some panda express now

  • @yei7717
    @yei7717 5 років тому +31

    oooh no they miss the best part.
    like when the managers yelled at their coworkers infront of the people for a small mistake 😒

  • @_cosmic_void
    @_cosmic_void 8 років тому

    At my hometown one they hose down the restaurant. Table, chairs, floor, buffet. Just hosed everything down. Never ate there again.

  • @310Sole
    @310Sole 8 років тому +33

    PANDA PANDA PANDA PANDA....lol sorry couldn't help it

  • @blue280485
    @blue280485 7 років тому

    Nice video! May be you could create a similar video for Chipotle??

  • @xbluedreamx
    @xbluedreamx Рік тому +1

    There seriously needs to be a drive thru in my area...if only😭

  • @srfin24
    @srfin24 8 років тому +2

    are all the panda express this clean or just the one next corporate?

  • @ayyyandreaa2465
    @ayyyandreaa2465 7 років тому

    I have a job interview for Panda Express and I'm so nervous bc this will be my first job 😣

  • @GodOfWarConnoisseur
    @GodOfWarConnoisseur 9 місяців тому

    I work 3 days a week at Panda for 12 hours each time. I truly know what a Day at Panda is like.

  • @MIkramKenwaychannel
    @MIkramKenwaychannel 6 років тому +1

    how i wish singapore too could have panda express in here.... i could only see live panda in zoo 🐼 ☹️

  • @khunopie9159
    @khunopie9159 8 років тому +16

    Eater, brought to you by Panda Express™

  • @user-kw4qw8zu5q
    @user-kw4qw8zu5q 3 роки тому

    i hope panda express could have more outlet outside US

  • @BrianMcNay
    @BrianMcNay 8 років тому +81

    Rebranding video because market research found that consumers think its a dirty restaurant?

    • @eater
      @eater  8 років тому +22

      +Brian McNay We appreciate the cynicism, but this has a much less gross backstory. We make a series called One Night: www.eater.com/a/one-night-kachka . The people at Panda Express saw it and said, "Hey, Eater. We love this. If you ever want to spend a day in a Panda Express let us know." and after a lot of deliberation we thought...."why not" and made this: www.eater.com/a/panda-express-one-day . We're pretty proud of both of them. Please give em a look.

    • @katmykittiesmom
      @katmykittiesmom 8 років тому

      +Brian McNay If I missed it, do they use MSG? I'm highly allergic to it. Thanks!

    • @BrianMcNay
      @BrianMcNay 8 років тому +9

      +Eater, There are an awful lot of scenes showing the staff cleaning the restaurant, an exorbitant amount. Almost as if Panda asked you to highlight that aspect. But I'm just an outsider looking in, and hey, great work.

    • @BrianMcNay
      @BrianMcNay 8 років тому

      +Andres Han I totally agree.

    • @paulzhliang5044
      @paulzhliang5044 8 років тому +9

      +Brian McNay Not trying to deny any concerns you have regarding their health issue in terms of food. But if you ever work in a restaurant or food stand, you will know cleaning is big deal in terms of everyday operation, in fact, shockingly amount of time and effort.

  • @kwanshawn
    @kwanshawn 8 років тому +13

    Wonder how much Panda Express paid to produce this video

  • @beagoodhuman584
    @beagoodhuman584 3 роки тому +3

    That's why Kim Taehyun like Panda Express too much 💕

  • @theendoftimesgodhelpusall9570
    @theendoftimesgodhelpusall9570 6 років тому

    I gotta say Sonny the manager at Wahiawa Panda Express knows his job! SONNY IS ASSET TO PANDA.

  • @asianfireflie
    @asianfireflie 5 років тому

    A popular mall place Arlington va

  • @Beyonder555
    @Beyonder555 6 років тому

    Can somebody who works at Panda tell me if they cook the meats from raw? Or, do they precook the meats in batches, and take it out of fridge whenever they need to make a dish?

    • @funghoul05
      @funghoul05 5 років тому

      meat is pre-packaged and raw. it is taken out when we need to make more.

  • @InspireMe819
    @InspireMe819 3 роки тому +3

    Most people dream about owning their own restaurant. For those who dream about it, they have no idea what they're talking about. It takes dedication and lots of your time.

  • @TravisBuck
    @TravisBuck 8 років тому

    now that's a well tuned restaurant...

  • @SlimDadddyBaby
    @SlimDadddyBaby 4 роки тому +2

    I started this
    job 2day tryna b best wish me luck

  • @TheiPadTube777
    @TheiPadTube777 8 років тому

    More

  • @mochi_miyuki
    @mochi_miyuki 3 роки тому

    My Panda Express be here’s some uhh left over orange chicken from yesterday

  • @dianaowens9267
    @dianaowens9267 4 роки тому +19

    Trust me when I say this is the most glorified video of Panda Express ever. I’m a current worker and the wage is a lowball for the amount of work you have to do. In our restaurant everything is broken. You never get breaks and we usually don’t leave until 12 or 1 am :)

    • @belloSZN
      @belloSZN 4 роки тому +5

      What panda do you work at 😂

    • @SuperCer054Real
      @SuperCer054Real 3 роки тому +4

      @@belloSZN lol getting abused ova there

    • @eddiebaker3267
      @eddiebaker3267 2 роки тому

      Just request a raise into management and a transfer to the HQ. What's the problem?

    • @loudmein6591
      @loudmein6591 Рік тому

      Go to another job if it’s so bad. Stop crying do something about it.

  • @kerihon1949
    @kerihon1949 8 років тому

    I live a block away from this Panda Express . Panda headquarter is right next to this chain

  • @AnthonyMcqueen1987
    @AnthonyMcqueen1987 8 років тому +2

    I know this is a fast food restaurant but how is this not authentic they are cutting up fresh vegetables, cooking fresh meat and so on also they have asian cooks. Panda Express is delicious its authentic to me.

    • @DoctorWitten
      @DoctorWitten 7 років тому +5

      They aren't authentic chinese recipes or cuisine but it is authentic chinese-american. And that's fine. The same way much beloved new york pizzas arent authentic italian cuisine but they are authentic italian-american foods.

  • @Mr111255
    @Mr111255 7 років тому

    oh this is the one in front of my neighborhood walmart

  • @darksidehero
    @darksidehero 7 років тому +6

    Why am I watching other people work?? WHAT HAS BECOME OF MY LIFE?

  • @writerinc
    @writerinc 9 місяців тому

    Does Panda use msg in their food? I don't go there because I'm allergic to msg😢

  • @superpup2255
    @superpup2255 8 років тому

    this one is near my house lol

  • @lmd499
    @lmd499 4 роки тому

    Love Panda!

  • @SKRUBL0RD
    @SKRUBL0RD 8 років тому

    Mmm that delicious wok fried food that has dirty mops used in it.

  • @trash9598
    @trash9598 5 років тому

    If this video wasn’t sponsored the title would be “You will never eat at Panda Express after wactching this”

  • @JohnGoundry
    @JohnGoundry 7 років тому

    Do you have the zip code for this place? It's not on google maps and everything you've described as landmarks seem to also not be easily findable. I really wanna find this place haha

    • @shootingLemon
      @shootingLemon 7 років тому

      John Goundry It's next to the panda head quarters in rosemead CA

    • @JohnGoundry
      @JohnGoundry 7 років тому

      shootingLemon
      Yeah found it, thanks

  • @oTwOrDsNe
    @oTwOrDsNe 8 років тому

    I'm surprised they use an actual wok

  • @yoamiejay
    @yoamiejay 7 років тому

    The US has drive-thru Chinese food?!

  • @CharlesXiongL
    @CharlesXiongL 8 років тому +7

    All the Panda Express workers are Mexican and Black in Milwaukee, WI. Something seems fishy about this video when their are asian cooks lol.

    • @fireheadsam
      @fireheadsam 8 років тому +2

      +Charles Xiong This is in San Gabriel Valley (In Los Angeles county). It is the most populated Asian community outside of Asia. Your employees will reflect the area.

    • @IamHaddy
      @IamHaddy 8 років тому

      +Charles Xiong yeah because there's like 12 asians in milwaukee

    • @xEmsXPhiiltzx
      @xEmsXPhiiltzx 5 років тому

      Mines has 3 Asian 5 Mexicans including me and 1 black I’m Chicago

  • @teddy1873
    @teddy1873 3 роки тому

    The one whos taking the orders tho
    He fine 😬💕

  • @SuperCer054Real
    @SuperCer054Real 3 роки тому

    I’m like why is this so different and the video is from 5 years ago

  • @hyegwang2940
    @hyegwang2940 2 роки тому

    hello.
    I'm a PD of tvN, a Korean broadcasting station.
    I want to use your video as a material for my program.
    Can I use it?

  • @scubawithatuba
    @scubawithatuba 3 роки тому +1

    I start my first day on Friday and this made me want to quit. Working is the food industry is the worst.

  • @faifai4
    @faifai4 7 років тому

    3:44 Hahahahahaha

  • @elijahquinonez8179
    @elijahquinonez8179 7 років тому

    i work at panada express and they one of the worst work policy in my opinion to bent on rules though they do care about you n plus free lunch.

  • @shawiegubeta103
    @shawiegubeta103 8 років тому +2

    3:45 YUCKKKYYYYY SAME WOK FOR FOOD AND MOP TO CLEAN THE WALLS!!!!!!!!!

  • @waffletaffles5365
    @waffletaffles5365 8 років тому

    The last time I went there I got constipated.😞

    • @mrjinkorea
      @mrjinkorea 5 років тому

      I sincerely hope that you were able to solve your constipation problems!

  • @KumaSelf
    @KumaSelf 6 років тому

    Rick and Morty!

  • @HeWhoHasRisen3500
    @HeWhoHasRisen3500 6 років тому

    3:12 Old food coming out....but where did it go........?
    3:44 Woky Woky Sloppy Moppy

  • @rgruenhaus
    @rgruenhaus 8 років тому

    No buffet at the one in Pensacola. No Asian workers either.

  • @for_4_four205
    @for_4_four205 4 місяці тому

    Recruiter sent me here

  • @ricksaunders
    @ricksaunders 8 років тому +1

    No tofu. An asian joint with no tofu. What the...?

  • @keiffactory
    @keiffactory 8 років тому +5

    how did that guy make it to the managerial position at such a young age?

    • @Sodacake
      @Sodacake 8 років тому +31

      +To Catch a Predator He's asian. For all we know he's in his 50's.

    • @keiffactory
      @keiffactory 8 років тому +3

      hahhahah that's a good one mate, cheers for that laugh.

    • @WhatTechShow
      @WhatTechShow 8 років тому +5

      +To Catch a Predator Managers are not that old... You just need to graduate from college and apply for the managerial position.
      It's not like you start as a hamburger flipper and you work your way up to manager once the current manager dies. Lol that rarely happens.

    • @keiffactory
      @keiffactory 8 років тому +2

      WhatTechShow I did not know that before. Thank you. I am in college and I always wondered what the management courses were for, but I guess this answers my question.

    • @awfulaim912
      @awfulaim912 8 років тому +2

      he was probably the only one willing to do it. I'd rather drill in an arctic wasteland or scrape dead bodies off the highway than take shit from scammers and dbags. How long would I last before I catch an assault/attempted murder charge? hope that young man gets paid well.

  • @missyb9535
    @missyb9535 8 років тому

    Holy F....is that the same wok they cook in that they are sloshing hot water out of to clean the kitchen walls with that brush????????? YIKES!!!!!!!

  • @theendoftimesgodhelpusall9570
    @theendoftimesgodhelpusall9570 6 років тому

    WE HAVE A NEW PANDA IN HAWAII. THE FOOD TASTE PREPACKED AND SAUCES MADE IN A FACTORY. ITS STILL FAST FOOD.BREADED FROZEN FRIED THROW SAUCE ON .NOT HOMEMADE AT ALL. THE PLACE WILL DIE DOWN AFTER PPL GET TIRED OF IT.

    • @hawaiianprestigecars8493
      @hawaiianprestigecars8493 6 років тому

      Natalie Suemori it’s 10 times better than chipotle and all the other fast food places

  • @silverlve70
    @silverlve70 7 років тому

    The very few times I've eaten at a PE the food has been there for hours and it's dry and tastes like crud. I picked up the chicken pot stickers which had an hard shell and were completely disgusting.

  • @Hellcat-to3yh
    @Hellcat-to3yh 2 роки тому +1

    Lmao no Panda I’ve worked at (3 locations) has ever had even 50% of that staff size.

    • @mrjinkorea
      @mrjinkorea Рік тому

      This particular one is close to the corporate HQ in Rosemead, California. So it's obviously gonna be much busier than your average Panda.

    • @Hellcat-to3yh
      @Hellcat-to3yh Рік тому

      @@mrjinkorea If they have time to have multiple people cleaning at 3pm then they have a far better staff to sales ratio than any store I’ve worked at.

  • @judithcool012
    @judithcool012 4 роки тому

    So I realized that the employees are wearing watches. Are they allowed to wear watches? Just curious

  • @bendoncillo
    @bendoncillo 6 років тому

    sean is cute ugh

  • @30907bng
    @30907bng 8 років тому

    Is this place all you can eat?

  • @navier5451
    @navier5451 5 років тому +3

    PANDA PANDA PANDA PANDA PANDA EXPRESS HO PANDA EXPRESS HO PANDA EXPRESS HOO
    Namjoon:Sorry we just really love Panda Express
    Me:😂😂😂😂😂

  • @tsuma2619
    @tsuma2619 3 роки тому +1

    Crazy to believe there was a time where they didn't have to wear gloves or masks

    • @SuperCer054Real
      @SuperCer054Real 3 роки тому

      Yeah I mean it was like that since forever so is it really crazy

  • @dafergu
    @dafergu 7 років тому +1

    So these people use water in the cooking wok to dip a dirty mop and clean the walls...never coming back!!!

  • @moorfang
    @moorfang 8 років тому

    Please come and open in Australia. We don't have legit Chinese food here. Come and save us.

    • @markdtech
      @markdtech 8 років тому +1

      you still wont if they come to australia

    • @moorfang
      @moorfang 8 років тому

      +Sen King yeah in this video the food looks much better than what we get here in Sydney. If I go to a food court for lunch, the usual thing I would avoid is Chinese :(

    • @zuperpinapple8588
      @zuperpinapple8588 8 років тому

      +Sen King do you like Mexican food

    • @moorfang
      @moorfang 8 років тому

      +Ivan Martinez yeah Mexican food is great. I think at least we get some good Mexican food here

  • @armanimpressions
    @armanimpressions 5 років тому +1

    Left overs are reheated the next day and mixed

  • @MrLolo-xs6ob
    @MrLolo-xs6ob 7 років тому

    And how much are those happy employees are getting paid?

    • @carlose2335
      @carlose2335 7 років тому +1

      Mr. Lolo I just started working at panda about 3 months ago, this video really does a good job at showcasing how difficult this job is, that said we start at 10 at my store, but it depends on how much revenue the store brings in, the busier stores start at 10.50 even 11 an hour boh as well as foh

    • @carlose2335
      @carlose2335 7 років тому

      Mr. Lolo I just started working at panda about 3 months ago, this video really does a good job at showcasing how difficult this job is, that said we start at 10 at my store, but it depends on how much revenue the store brings in, the busier stores start at 10.50 even 11 an hour boh as well as foh

  • @steadfast510
    @steadfast510 8 років тому +14

    Cool they Mop out of the wok. gross AF, i feel bad for you if this is your best option for chinese.

    • @kakasensei26
      @kakasensei26 8 років тому +11

      +steadfast510 gives extra flavor

    • @jhlbjaaa
      @jhlbjaaa 8 років тому +5

      +steadfast510 Well it's boiling water so it kill all the bacteria, guess it's better than the normal buckets.

    • @peachy8962
      @peachy8962 7 років тому +1

      steadfast510 it's not a mop it's a cleaning tool that is only used for cleaning the kitchen and has a flat scrubber on the end of it

    • @domo535
      @domo535 5 років тому

      He was cleaning the walls with the wok because the wok heats up the solution making the walls easier to clean... you guys have obviously had no knowledge whatsoever of Panda Express...

  • @xxP1ST0LER0xx
    @xxP1ST0LER0xx 7 років тому +2

    Idk why but I want to work here it looks fun and easy.

    • @drbluebarry
      @drbluebarry 7 років тому +4

      xxP1ST0LER0xx fun yes easy no

    • @eastahbunbun
      @eastahbunbun 7 років тому

      As someone who currently works there, lemme tell you this: It's easy to work there if you are just the counter help/cashier.

    • @hawk2324
      @hawk2324 6 років тому +1

      Easy? Haha no

  • @RigoRM
    @RigoRM 8 років тому +1

    why is no one pointing out that the manager asked if the dude wanted meet in his broccoli and beef? 2:25

    • @RigoRM
      @RigoRM 8 років тому

      +Lauren Lam Right, but that means the customer asked for broccoli and -->Beef

    • @gregson8533
      @gregson8533 7 років тому

      Just take this L, gotta love people who get proven wrong and then try to explain it to make themselves feel better. Also your analogy is flawed, anywhere you order a burger/hamburger - it will come with cheese same with a cheeseburger.

    • @RigoRM
      @RigoRM 7 років тому

      Anony Moose Cool thanks for correcting me.

    • @albertbazinyan7790
      @albertbazinyan7790 7 років тому

      Rigo R.M for real, Bro I want both

  • @adelfaesthergonzalez6352
    @adelfaesthergonzalez6352 Рік тому

    I personally have not ate at Panda Express only my little sister if my children ain't there it wasn't me I didn't offer it to them my husband Samuel he's mistaken if he didn't give me child support because of it and my children already adults and my grandchildren I'm not allowed to feed them only but candy not even that anymore

  • @kimjeonminjungparkyn7279
    @kimjeonminjungparkyn7279 3 роки тому +4

    V's favorite
    Panda express
    😂😄💜💜💜💜💜

  • @bryanboulton9004
    @bryanboulton9004 7 років тому

    Where's the part where they show the food being freaking awful...?