After all these years it is 4-9-2020 I am 67 Mr Pawson is 90 but praise God I have finally found someone who reads scripture and not only explains it but explains the whole Bible with a gentle encouraging voice. Can't get enough of his video even if it is just audio. Thank you, thank you
You all prolly dont give a shit but does someone know a tool to log back into an Instagram account? I was stupid lost my account password. I love any tips you can give me
An interesting talk and I hope I will be able to find the time to watch parts 2 & 3. Having read your book on this subject I have a pretty good idea what you are leading up to, and I must admit I am probably going to ask some searching questions about that position. However, I generally agree with this first part of your talk, although I am a little bit puzzled as to why you seem reluctant to accept the position of the Book of Job, in which suffering is not really explained. I take the view that there are many reasons for suffering, and the subject is immensely complex. It stands to reason that there are going to be things that happen in this world, which our finite minds cannot understand, but which are fully understandable to an infinite mind. This is not illogical. You talk about being intellectually 'satisfied', but I find the logic of this position satisfying. The answer to suffering in Job's case was God Himself - hence Job's statement in chapter 42, verse 5: "I have heard about you by the hearing of the ear, but now my eye sees you". This verse reveals that something profound had changed in Job's relationship with God. In fact, I am not sure that an intellectual answer can really satisfy the person who is suffering. The only satisfying outcome is either the resolution of the problem - i.e. healing or restoration, or, if healing is not possible (such as in the case of bereavement, in the sense of the deceased coming back to life) then a deeper relationship with God on an experiential level which provides strength, comfort and peace to help the sufferer cope with their loss. A purely intellectual explanation would surely be little comfort in many (though not all) situations.
In the case of the book of Job, there was an explanation. He was to be tested. He was also the foreshadow of Christ. So I think that is David Parson's point. It should not be used as a mystery, though indeed there will be many rich secrets to be uncovered in Job. But the central idea of suffering was explained in Job.
He is to blame because he supposedly create it. If he is good why would He create natural evil? Don't be mad at me for not understanding..I am trying HARD to do it.
Hi Its not easy to understand - God did not create sin - sin is not something physical to create - its the choice: choice to do what's right or choice to do what's wrong God sits on the throne and reigns over everything physical and spiritual, nothing happens unless God makes it happen .........or allows it to happen. There are times when God withdraws this protection. Disasters happen either because God created them or because he withdraws his protection, Disasters are a consequence of an absence of GOD/God withdrawing God gets blamed when things go wrong, he rarely gets the credit when things go right but when things go wrong it's not necessarily something God 'creates'. Yes God created all things but he also gave the freedom to chose - to choose His ways or reject His ways. If we carry on rejecting Gods ways ,..... He withdraws his protection and then comes crisis
David Pawson was a great servant of God.And he Explains the Bible and God scriptures the best.And he is now with God and iam sure he would say welcome my true servant well done .❤️💯🙏🦁
God asks Job to contemplate Leviathan, the serpant found throughout the bible; Isaiah 27:1 - In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea Psalms 74:14 - Thou brakest the heads of leviathan in pieces, and gavest him to be meat to the people inhabiting the wilderness. Psalms 74:13 - Thou didst divide the sea by thy strength: thou brakest the heads of the dragons in the waters. And every mention in Revelation, of course. God then asks Job to compare that beast against Behemoth; "He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him." This does not sound like God is at all talking about a hippo and a gator. He's kind of leaking how He is going to deal with satan in the future.
Why does God, do natural disasters, telling that I am there to do my justice, punishment. Natural disasters mean, justice of God. I have an example, to write here but the people who did wrong, and by natural disaster, a parent lost their four girls in Sunami in Sri Lanka, did not see any dead body of her girls. I heard the mother helps to do charming, ooniyum., to separate people. See the punishment. God gave them.
There is only one God for the whole Universe. The unseen power,. Natural disasters is the punishment of God, one minute is enough, for HIM, to make sea into sand, sand into sea.. Fear God, as a human love eachother. Give first place to humanity., while living.
THE TEMPEST - Lili It gives you comfort just to think that God is by your side To help you with your petty wants, you only have to pray Everything given or denied, it’s part of his great plan But what of when your world falls down, loss of home and pride Nature is a cruel beast, she arrives to ruin and flay She doesn’t care, she doesn’t think, of Gods, of love or man. - The cruel sea, the skies and wind all dark with careless hate Your home picked up and flung aside, the air fulfilled with death Is this the plan he had for you? You still think he is great Perhaps you think that he is kind for sparing most his flock A score of reasons to excuse, indifference, sin or fate It’s still the same, your world is gone, your hopes and prayers a mock. - And as you stare into the sky and bend your knees in thanks Your neighbor’s dead, your town a wreck, what thanks is due to him? Who’s made your life a misery, no future left for you You’re leaving now, your fate unknown a victim of his whim You’ll join the mass of those he’s scorned, the lost the faithful too Perhaps this trial will make you think, this God cannot be true. - If he is love then what’s this hate, inflicted on mankind It’s not just here, it’s everywhere, Infidel and faithful alike He doesn’t care, he strikes us all, and we’re supposed to find The meaning of the tragedy, the reason of the plan Be grateful for the mercy, mercy no one sees, mercy undefined The game he’s played with human pawns, the game he’s played with man. - The great Khayyam wrote of the game, a checkerboard of lies He knows the fate of everyone and watches from above And you may lift your hands to him, expectant of his love He only cares about the game, the players live or die And if you die that is the cost of being in the game A player faithful might be spared, the wanting to the flames.
@@michelleclarke2590 I see, according to you believing the bible comes from being grown up. And I am too childish to understand it. Why is it then that studies show that Atheists know more about the bible than Christians?
No it came from you verbally being nasty about David & his fairytales . Yes you would wonder about that , atheists apparently knowing more about the Bible 🤷🏼♀️
After all these years it is 4-9-2020 I am 67 Mr Pawson is 90 but praise God I have finally found someone who reads scripture and not only explains it but explains the whole Bible with a gentle encouraging voice. Can't get enough of his video even if it is just audio. Thank you, thank you
Same here. I am also thankful and even more so that I just learned that he passed away on Thursday. MHSRIP
True
This man David Pawson always encourages me in his teaching. I CAN NOT WAIT to meet him in Heaven! I hope I can.
Amen. Same experiences here and same yearning to say thank you/gratefully express how David's mission accomplished so much he likely didn't expect.
You all prolly dont give a shit but does someone know a tool to log back into an Instagram account?
I was stupid lost my account password. I love any tips you can give me
Why are you in a hurry for the world to end? Souls need to be saved.
Amen same here❤️
An interesting talk and I hope I will be able to find the time to watch parts 2 & 3. Having read your book on this subject I have a pretty good idea what you are leading up to, and I must admit I am probably going to ask some searching questions about that position. However, I generally agree with this first part of your talk, although I am a little bit puzzled as to why you seem reluctant to accept the position of the Book of Job, in which suffering is not really explained. I take the view that there are many reasons for suffering, and the subject is immensely complex. It stands to reason that there are going to be things that happen in this world, which our finite minds cannot understand, but which are fully understandable to an infinite mind. This is not illogical. You talk about being intellectually 'satisfied', but I find the logic of this position satisfying. The answer to suffering in Job's case was God Himself - hence Job's statement in chapter 42, verse 5: "I have heard about you by the hearing of the ear, but now my eye sees you". This verse reveals that something profound had changed in Job's relationship with God. In fact, I am not sure that an intellectual answer can really satisfy the person who is suffering. The only satisfying outcome is either the resolution of the problem - i.e. healing or restoration, or, if healing is not possible (such as in the case of bereavement, in the sense of the deceased coming back to life) then a deeper relationship with God on an experiential level which provides strength, comfort and peace to help the sufferer cope with their loss. A purely intellectual explanation would surely be little comfort in many (though not all) situations.
Amen. I usually comment and say this + that... Not here.
Thank you from America friend.
In Christ,
Rob from Chicagoland
In the case of the book of Job, there was an explanation. He was to be tested. He was also the foreshadow of Christ. So I think that is David Parson's point. It should not be used as a mystery, though indeed there will be many rich secrets to be uncovered in Job. But the central idea of suffering was explained in Job.
8:45 That comes as a surprise, that he held the view, dinosaurs have gone extinct because of an asteroid hitting the earth.
He is to blame because he supposedly create it. If he is good why would He create natural evil? Don't be mad at me for not understanding..I am trying HARD to do it.
Hi Its not easy to understand - God did not create sin - sin is not something physical to create - its the choice: choice to do what's right or choice to do what's wrong
God sits on the throne and reigns over everything physical and spiritual, nothing happens unless God makes it happen .........or allows it to happen.
There are times when God withdraws this protection. Disasters happen either because God created them or because he withdraws his protection, Disasters are a consequence of an absence of GOD/God withdrawing
God gets blamed when things go wrong, he rarely gets the credit when things go right but when things go wrong it's not necessarily something God 'creates'.
Yes God created all things but he also gave the freedom to chose - to choose His ways or reject His ways. If we carry on rejecting Gods ways ,..... He withdraws his protection and then comes crisis
Oh puhlease. Your blame God instead of man who commits the sin
Great man. God will be so pleased with him. RIP David.🙏
I’ve never witnessed such distance between human and God like these days. It’s really sad. I believe God is sending a lot of messages.
David Pawson was a great servant of God.And he Explains the Bible and God scriptures the best.And he is now with God and iam sure he would say welcome my true servant well done .❤️💯🙏🦁
his voice itself is a blessing with his amazing knowledge of the word of god
If there's one teacher I really love to listen to is David pawson
Thank you for this message. Bless you
A man with his heart after God, See you again when see Jesus face to face, God bless 🙏
I remember my mum telling me of the patience of Job
God asks Job to contemplate Leviathan, the serpant found throughout the bible;
Isaiah 27:1 - In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea
Psalms 74:14 - Thou brakest the heads of leviathan in pieces, and gavest him to be meat to the people inhabiting the wilderness.
Psalms 74:13 - Thou didst divide the sea by thy strength: thou brakest the heads of the dragons in the waters.
And every mention in Revelation, of course.
God then asks Job to compare that beast against Behemoth;
"He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him."
This does not sound like God is at all talking about a hippo and a gator. He's kind of leaking how He is going to deal with satan in the future.
Keep saying Sir.
Why does God, do natural disasters, telling that I am there to do my justice, punishment. Natural disasters mean, justice of God. I have an example, to write here but the people who did wrong, and by natural disaster, a parent lost their four girls in Sunami in Sri Lanka, did not see any dead body of her girls. I heard the mother helps to do charming, ooniyum., to separate people. See the punishment. God gave them.
There is only one God for the whole Universe. The unseen power,. Natural disasters is the punishment of God, one minute is enough, for HIM, to make sea into sand, sand into sea.. Fear God, as a human love eachother. Give first place to humanity., while living.
THE TEMPEST - Lili
It gives you comfort just to think that God is by your side
To help you with your petty wants, you only have to pray
Everything given or denied, it’s part of his great plan
But what of when your world falls down, loss of home and pride
Nature is a cruel beast, she arrives to ruin and flay
She doesn’t care, she doesn’t think, of Gods, of love or man. -
The cruel sea, the skies and wind all dark with careless hate
Your home picked up and flung aside, the air fulfilled with death
Is this the plan he had for you? You still think he is great
Perhaps you think that he is kind for sparing most his flock
A score of reasons to excuse, indifference, sin or fate
It’s still the same, your world is gone, your hopes and prayers a mock. -
And as you stare into the sky and bend your knees in thanks
Your neighbor’s dead, your town a wreck, what thanks is due to him?
Who’s made your life a misery, no future left for you
You’re leaving now, your fate unknown a victim of his whim
You’ll join the mass of those he’s scorned, the lost the faithful too
Perhaps this trial will make you think, this God cannot be true. -
If he is love then what’s this hate, inflicted on mankind
It’s not just here, it’s everywhere, Infidel and faithful alike
He doesn’t care, he strikes us all, and we’re supposed to find
The meaning of the tragedy, the reason of the plan
Be grateful for the mercy, mercy no one sees, mercy undefined
The game he’s played with human pawns, the game he’s played with man. -
The great Khayyam wrote of the game, a checkerboard of lies
He knows the fate of everyone and watches from above
And you may lift your hands to him, expectant of his love
He only cares about the game, the players live or die
And if you die that is the cost of being in the game
A player faithful might be spared, the wanting to the flames.
The devil does it. We have choices!!!
When will David grow up and stop believing in fairytales?
Whenever your old enough to go to Nursery School 🤦🏼♀️
@@michelleclarke2590 I see, according to you believing the bible comes from being grown up. And I am too childish to understand it. Why is it then that studies show that Atheists know more about the bible than Christians?
No it came from you verbally being nasty about David & his fairytales . Yes you would wonder about that , atheists apparently knowing more about the Bible 🤷🏼♀️
@@michelleclarke2590 Ever fact check your bible?
What are you here for ? What is your purpose on this channel ? Who cares if you are an atheist..