As Acevedo said in 'Modern Poker Theory,' "A GTO strategy is a maximally exploitative strategy." When most people talk about "GTO strategy," they are referring to a *Nash Equilibrium* which is NOT a GTO strategy UNLESS your opponent happens to be playing an equilibrium strategy. If you over-throw rock, a solver would say I should throw paper every time until you adjust. But this is deceptive because rock-paper-scissor only has one node. In poker when you node-lock some deviation, the solver is saying "well, if one player is forced to make X exploitable deviation, this is the new equilibrium they will establish by playing in such a way that any subsequent or incremental exploitation is impossible." But of course, if your opponent 4-bets 69s and thows a fish at you, he's not going to play adjusted Nash equilibrium after the flop. In fact, his extreme preflop deviation makes it LESS likely that he will do that. So if you really want to ask the solver how to take advantage of someone 4-betting 69s, you don't just node lock that, you would have to make a bunch of assumptions appropriate for an aggro donk, which is a pain in the ass because you're running these sims just for this aggro donk. Better to just ask like Charlie Carrel does, what is his range and what do we want him to do with it, and is there something we can do that will bring about that result? The only way to make money from "GTO" is to compare a spot to population tendencies to identify an exploit that you can make and then start making it. Otherwise you're just using it to have an excuse to study a chart rather than a donk, because the chart is eternal and pure and sterile and sexy and the donk is a slobbering walrus lurching through the casino and coughing half eaten spaghetti on you and you don't want to be in this man's head so you're like "oh I have to 4-bet AJo 10% of the time here." But you must become the donk. You must roll around in the donk and get it all over you. Yes.
TL;DR: GTO is not equivalent to balanced + unexploitable. GTO = Maximum real EV at each node. Maximum real EV only equals coming closer to balanced and unexploitable when your opponent is playing close to solver strategy.
We're all getting to the same place, whether you want to call it "real EV" or call out the difference between an equilibrium strategy and a GTO strategy. Bottom line is, if you gave the solver the relevant information about your donk or your population of donks, the solver WOULD say "fold your entire range" or "bluff your entire range" in X spot, (and if you did that, real EV=EV.) But we, as regfish, fetishize the equilibria and relish the certainty that by playing nash we can be unexploitable. Do you want to be unexploitable or do you want to make money? If you want to make money, find that donk at the Orleans at 4am who is making racist comments about the cocktail waitress whose ass is hanging out and she just wants to make a living. Then over-fold when the backdoor comes in and he can't be floating enough air, and jam into his overpair with your set when you know he thinks you would never jam a set because you would be afraid he would fold.
Fantastic stuff, Pete. Just moving up to NL10+ this year, with some NL5 mixes. I'm up to 70 buy-ins for NL 10 now, I've gone through my stats this year and have become more confident in my strategy, so I think moving up will yield better results/accelerate my learning, instead of just grinding 100 buyins at each level. I've been doing a $1k challenge for awhile now, still want to complete it and I've been inspired to start making my own content now, which will definitely help me solidify my strategy/knowledge. I've always been obsessed with mastering skills and it feels awesome knowing you're great at a set of skills.
Great one! The way you spoke in point 6 "got to get through millions of hands, got to get a positivie winrate, im so bored of this f..in state, got to do this, oh i got checkraised again, bullshit!" gave me a fit of laughter. Thank you!
Absolutely love No. 6: Stay curious. Stay humble. I have this on a paper posted above my monitors along with a reminder that is is okay to fold. Great overall list, Pete! Love the mindset aspects you sprinkle in your videos.
I write down your tips in my notes just in case you one day decide to remove these gems. Thank you I’m getting ready to print money once again after my down swing with ur new tips
Hey hey. Love your work. Started watching your cashgame review... really good content. Started playing 3 years ago with 50 dollar. Current build it up around 3700 dollar and playing on the regular 25nl tables on GG ( i will switch to 50NL when I am above 4000). Building up is going slow, because of the high rake (capped at 8BB) at GG and because I am not an expert yet. In the Netherlands there is not really another legal option. With two kids and a wife poker is just a hobby. Only when I am beating the 500NL as a beast (which probably is not realistic) for me it is a option to become a pro. Goal of 2023: winning 5000 dollar at poker and making first attemps at 100NL
I’m in the same boat as you Dennis. Would love to hear how you became a better player. I find it easier to understand from people who have come from the bottom. I’m playing micro and sometimes kill it and other times get killed.
All your videos are great. You are a great teacher. That said, this type of '10 tips' format should be extremely rare. It's the kind of lazy content the pokertainment guys do. Not that this was lazy, but it is shallow compared to your usual analysis
Keep going guys, im totally stuck at this level been stuck for years, however im a chess player and the exact same thing happened, getting to 100 ecf was really hard but once i got it after a few years i progressed really quickly !
Just pray you get lucky. That's all. All these GTO and Exploitative strategies you see on UA-cam don't work in reality. This morning on PokerStars, on a 6-Max 5NL reg table, someone opened UTG to 3bb, and I 3-Bet to 13bb from the BB with KK and he 4-Bets to 35.6bb, so I called because I couldn't call 5-Bet jam because according to theory it's definitely AA. The flop comes KQx monotone, I check he CBs half pot and jam he called with AQs (with the ace high flush draw).
@@sosadesigner8813 Luck is only better than skill in the short term, i would bet my house if you played 1 billion hands against a top player or a solver you will definatly win a few lucky hands but you will lose everything you have sooner or later
@@thejourneyofwhat It's not just one hand. The same thing has been happening to me over and over again. I flop a set, they flopped a straight. I flop a straight, they turn a full house. I trap with AA OOP, there's an ace on the flop that prevent me from getting paid, but when I 5-Bet all-in pre-flop, they win with the worst hand.
I have a dilemma. As a human that can only really do one thing at a time effectively which is better first? Cash Injection, or Poker Therapy. I played online professionally for about 5 years until Black Friday, but recently trying to start again is hard because I don’t have a roll like I used to and putting money towards one is harder. So I need to build. I’ve also developed bad habits in recent years like playing live I’ve become a fish doing something like 80/40 V/P. Playing 10 NL online or 1/2 (150BB) Live, can do daily online or 1-2 times a week live.
love all your Videos but this one was exceptionally good. Thank you for all your great content. And i certainly will get your new course for a Christmas Gift, pour moi
Hi Pete, I know it’s an old video and maybe you will not even see this comment but you talked at some point about pulling the trigger. I play and study the game serious for 6,7 months now. I m in my 3rd massive downswing session at this point and I would like to ask. It s not that I wouldn’t pull the trigger. I pull the trigger all the time but for some reason I only shot a Glock at someone and they fires back a bazooka or something. I would like to ask if it’s normal for someone playing this long to not know when it s necessary to fire a bluff. Because I clearly don’t know how to do it
Awesome tips. You can tell you know your shit. In your opinion what’s the best site to play on? I play on Stars but the games seem tougher and the rake back isn’t great
I’m starting to think that the pocket potatoes reference is like a “pot of gold”. It’s just on the next video. I keep looking carrot man. Is it in your paid content? Do I need to buy the cash injection course to find it. Your carrot 🥕 face taunts me everyday. I watch a new video every day. Never a pocket potato reference. Where is the reference Carrot man! I’ve even had to listen to those silly little podcasts you put out. And you know what!? No god damn potatoes.
Top tip for playing these games .Don't play them they are raked to fuck .Variance is unbelievable and regardless if you are a winning player you will lose or at best make so little I can assure you you have better things in live more positive. This clown is talking about recreational players at 5 nl.On the back side of this he and all the coaches on UA-cam are selling sit coaching that will at best get you to waste your life for very little .All the top players have tried at these levels and got smash .If they can't get it to add up what chance do you .If that is not evidence then you deserve to do your money .
As Acevedo said in 'Modern Poker Theory,' "A GTO strategy is a maximally exploitative strategy." When most people talk about "GTO strategy," they are referring to a *Nash Equilibrium* which is NOT a GTO strategy UNLESS your opponent happens to be playing an equilibrium strategy.
If you over-throw rock, a solver would say I should throw paper every time until you adjust. But this is deceptive because rock-paper-scissor only has one node. In poker when you node-lock some deviation, the solver is saying "well, if one player is forced to make X exploitable deviation, this is the new equilibrium they will establish by playing in such a way that any subsequent or incremental exploitation is impossible."
But of course, if your opponent 4-bets 69s and thows a fish at you, he's not going to play adjusted Nash equilibrium after the flop. In fact, his extreme preflop deviation makes it LESS likely that he will do that. So if you really want to ask the solver how to take advantage of someone 4-betting 69s, you don't just node lock that, you would have to make a bunch of assumptions appropriate for an aggro donk, which is a pain in the ass because you're running these sims just for this aggro donk.
Better to just ask like Charlie Carrel does, what is his range and what do we want him to do with it, and is there something we can do that will bring about that result? The only way to make money from "GTO" is to compare a spot to population tendencies to identify an exploit that you can make and then start making it.
Otherwise you're just using it to have an excuse to study a chart rather than a donk, because the chart is eternal and pure and sterile and sexy and the donk is a slobbering walrus lurching through the casino and coughing half eaten spaghetti on you and you don't want to be in this man's head so you're like "oh I have to 4-bet AJo 10% of the time here."
But you must become the donk. You must roll around in the donk and get it all over you. Yes.
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TL;DR: GTO is not equivalent to balanced + unexploitable. GTO = Maximum real EV at each node. Maximum real EV only equals coming closer to balanced and unexploitable when your opponent is playing close to solver strategy.
We're all getting to the same place, whether you want to call it "real EV" or call out the difference between an equilibrium strategy and a GTO strategy. Bottom line is, if you gave the solver the relevant information about your donk or your population of donks, the solver WOULD say "fold your entire range" or "bluff your entire range" in X spot, (and if you did that, real EV=EV.) But we, as regfish, fetishize the equilibria and relish the certainty that by playing nash we can be unexploitable. Do you want to be unexploitable or do you want to make money?
If you want to make money, find that donk at the Orleans at 4am who is making racist comments about the cocktail waitress whose ass is hanging out and she just wants to make a living. Then over-fold when the backdoor comes in and he can't be floating enough air, and jam into his overpair with your set when you know he thinks you would never jam a set because you would be afraid he would fold.
Thoroughly enjoyed this. More videos on microstakes would be great.
Fantastic stuff, Pete.
Just moving up to NL10+ this year, with some NL5 mixes.
I'm up to 70 buy-ins for NL 10 now, I've gone through my stats this year and have become more confident in my strategy, so I think moving up will yield better results/accelerate my learning, instead of just grinding 100 buyins at each level.
I've been doing a $1k challenge for awhile now, still want to complete it and I've been inspired to start making my own content now, which will definitely help me solidify my strategy/knowledge. I've always been obsessed with mastering skills and it feels awesome knowing you're great at a set of skills.
How was your graph for the year?
Great one! The way you spoke in point 6 "got to get through millions of hands, got to get a positivie winrate, im so bored of this f..in state, got to do this, oh i got checkraised again, bullshit!" gave me a fit of laughter. Thank you!
Absolutely love No. 6: Stay curious. Stay humble. I have this on a paper posted above my monitors along with a reminder that is is okay to fold. Great overall list, Pete! Love the mindset aspects you sprinkle in your videos.
Hey Pete....thanks for all your amazing free content...very generous of you to out this out there!
I write down your tips in my notes just in case you one day decide to remove these gems. Thank you I’m getting ready to print money once again after my down swing with ur new tips
Hey hey. Love your work. Started watching your cashgame review... really good content. Started playing 3 years ago with 50 dollar. Current build it up around 3700 dollar and playing on the regular 25nl tables on GG ( i will switch to 50NL when I am above 4000). Building up is going slow, because of the high rake (capped at 8BB) at GG and because I am not an expert yet. In the Netherlands there is not really another legal option. With two kids and a wife poker is just a hobby. Only when I am beating the 500NL as a beast (which probably is not realistic) for me it is a option to become a pro. Goal of 2023: winning 5000 dollar at poker and making first attemps at 100NL
I’m in the same boat as you Dennis. Would love to hear how you became a better player. I find it easier to understand from people who have come from the bottom. I’m playing micro and sometimes kill it and other times get killed.
It would be super helpful if on your website you put CPS Episode 1 : whatever the episode is about.
That would be super nice on the thimbnail
Excellent work Pete! I've been on the true EV train for years and will always defend it
All your videos are great. You are a great teacher. That said, this type of '10 tips' format should be extremely rare. It's the kind of lazy content the pokertainment guys do. Not that this was lazy, but it is shallow compared to your usual analysis
more ! this is great stuff. i can use this as a pre- session review point.
Great videos Pete, thanks for the content. Good luck with the channel I'm sure you'll grow in leaps and bounds soon.
Brilliant free content, TY Pete❤😂🎉😊
❤ great list, love the overbet tip
Nice vid Pete! Looking forward to Cash Injection!
Keep going guys, im totally stuck at this level been stuck for years, however im a chess player and the exact same thing happened, getting to 100 ecf was really hard but once i got it after a few years i progressed really quickly !
Just pray you get lucky. That's all. All these GTO and Exploitative strategies you see on UA-cam don't work in reality. This morning on PokerStars, on a 6-Max 5NL reg table, someone opened UTG to 3bb, and I 3-Bet to 13bb from the BB with KK and he 4-Bets to 35.6bb, so I called because I couldn't call 5-Bet jam because according to theory it's definitely AA. The flop comes KQx monotone, I check he CBs half pot and jam he called with AQs (with the ace high flush draw).
@@sosadesigner8813 no shit theres luck in poker, its not about one hand
@@sosadesigner8813 Luck is only better than skill in the short term, i would bet my house if you played 1 billion hands against a top player or a solver you will definatly win a few lucky hands but you will lose everything you have sooner or later
@@thejourneyofwhat It's not just one hand. The same thing has been happening to me over and over again. I flop a set, they flopped a straight. I flop a straight, they turn a full house. I trap with AA OOP, there's an ace on the flop that prevent me from getting paid, but when I 5-Bet all-in pre-flop, they win with the worst hand.
@@sosadesigner8813 it's funny, losing players all have one thing in common . . .
well, two things, if you count the bad beat stories.
I think No. 8 is gold at 0.02/0.05. Bet if they check with almost completely unprotected ranges.
50NL has been my roadblock for about 8 years. Would love to get out of it eventually.
Are you exaggerating?
I have a dilemma. As a human that can only really do one thing at a time effectively which is better first? Cash Injection, or Poker Therapy. I played online professionally for about 5 years until Black Friday, but recently trying to start again is hard because I don’t have a roll like I used to and putting money towards one is harder. So I need to build. I’ve also developed bad habits in recent years like playing live I’ve become a fish doing something like 80/40 V/P. Playing 10 NL online or 1/2 (150BB) Live, can do daily online or 1-2 times a week live.
Sorry that’s a little mangled but hopefully still legible. Im on my phone which isn’t always the best.
Love your work Pete!
love all your Videos but this one was exceptionally good. Thank you for all your great content. And i certainly will get your new course for a Christmas Gift, pour moi
Great one, dude.
Great video, i learnt a lot. thankyou.
loved the format =)
tnx!
Great stuff Pete
This is good content!! 👌🏼
great video, very informative
Hi Pete, I know it’s an old video and maybe you will not even see this comment but you talked at some point about pulling the trigger. I play and study the game serious for 6,7 months now. I m in my 3rd massive downswing session at this point and I would like to ask. It s not that I wouldn’t pull the trigger. I pull the trigger all the time but for some reason I only shot a Glock at someone and they fires back a bazooka or something. I would like to ask if it’s normal for someone playing this long to not know when it s necessary to fire a bluff. Because I clearly don’t know how to do it
Highest True EV play viewers can make is purchasing Cash Injection
Is this "Grade E" Of which you speak ever going to become available as a pre-recorded course on Carrot Corner?
Thanks for another amazing Video Pete!
We are planning to make it available it a downloadable video course format next year!
love the content!
Tip ten is the best
Awesome tips. You can tell you know your shit. In your opinion what’s the best site to play on? I play on Stars but the games seem tougher and the rake back isn’t great
speaking of tilt play did you see eric person on latb dusted off 1.2 million on tilt ?
He behaves like a tool at times. No respect for money, sadly or chips.
Thanks Pete, I want to know that when Carrot Poker School changed its structure from live to video format, will it get update with new contents ?
Nice video!
This is about the only 'poker training' on UA-cam that does not consider 100NL as 'micro stakes'.
it's not the arrangement of the onions, it's about the amount of onions...... and carrots
carrot?are u the guy who wrote the grinders manual?
Guilty
@@CarrotCornerPokeris it available anywhere as a physical book? I am old school and like reading things on paper not plastic/glass
I’m starting to think that the pocket potatoes reference is like a “pot of gold”. It’s just on the next video. I keep looking carrot man. Is it in your paid content? Do I need to buy the cash injection course to find it. Your carrot 🥕 face taunts me everyday. I watch a new video every day. Never a pocket potato reference. Where is the reference Carrot man! I’ve even had to listen to those silly little podcasts you put out. And you know what!? No god damn potatoes.
Top tip for playing these games .Don't play them they are raked to fuck .Variance is unbelievable and regardless if you are a winning player you will lose or at best make so little I can assure you you have better things in live more positive. This clown is talking about recreational players at 5 nl.On the back side of this he and all the coaches on UA-cam are selling sit coaching that will at best get you to waste your life for very little .All the top players have tried at these levels and got smash .If they can't get it to add up what chance do you .If that is not evidence then you deserve to do your money .