Update for everyone! Callum has posted the full aulos improvisation song on his channel just this year! Finally! ua-cam.com/video/6JFa8BZt2B0/v-deo.html
‘After the failure of Athens’ campaign to conquer Sicily [in 413 BC], 6000 Athenian prisoners were kept in a sweltering Syracusan quarry. Only a few managed to save their lives - because they could sing Euripides’ music, of which the Sicilians were great fans. When they returned to Athens the survivors sought out Euripides to thank him for composing such memorable - and literally life-saving - music’. [Plutarch, Life of Nicias]. Their ghosts can now recall his music with new gratitude for the few extra years of life it granted them!
@@Demokritiades Um...Interesting recreation---but---Not sure about its accuracy. And I am not sure about if given the same instruments I wouldnt produce something FAR more interesting, rhythmically and in timing, yet of course I am a modern. To me, it sounds slightly like they are infusing a medieval music feel to the singing and playing. They have based their interpretation of ancient music based on early known medieval traditions that have come to us. I am not sure if we can guarantee that simply if we recreate the instruments and sing the songs, that we can do exactly as they ancients did. This certainty hasnt been provided and probably NEVER will, since, there are no recordings of ancient music. I am not sure that the basis of this recreation has merit if it is based on western medieval music, or medieval music in general. Do we have any idea about the sounds of ancient music other than mere notation. Just as today, as well, players may have had different ways of playing as well, and this might change over time.
@@devinreese1109 Dude, it's a common place that- if you listened to video rather than thinking up an (not) clever retort - the exact musical notation exists. You are aware of an invention called "the internet?" There is no reason therefore to appear an ass before 611,827 viewers (you're 828) as I say, this notation from Delphi and elsewhere, has been known for ages. You did stumble into one interesting point - about the possible relationship between medieval music and the music of "classical antiquity." It would seem the reverse is true, as some medieval music does indeed sound like some of the pieces performed in this video. This IS speculation, on my part. However, that the precise pitches of Greek music has been available for (ever practically) is not in dispute.
@@Demokritiades very very interesting research and results. Mr. D'Angour, is there some written document about your research work? I'd love to get depper in how you discover that symbols belongs to notation and how to translate it into tones, congratulations, great sound archaeology work!!
Stefan Hagel plays a kithara that he has designed. Barnaby and Callum play auloi built to replicate ancient instruments found in archaeological contexts.
All you people saying this probably isn’t what it sounded like need to get in touch with reality. These guys are from Oxford university and the last 2000 years have been recorded near meticulously from various accounts in nearly every year. They have the instruments and a good idea of how the songs sounded. These people study these things with the utmost intent on being factually correct; they are not easily swayed by the corrupt pushing some nationalistic agenda. I know it’s hard to believe some people actually know a lot of things. And just so, there are seemingly endless historical accounts over the last 2000 years that help very well educated people such as these construct a clear picture of history that you average fools will never be capable of perceiving. Keep your ignorant comments to ourself. Philosophical doubt is useful in the hands of someone intelligent but offers the common fool a false sense of contentment in a world they never put a real effort into understanding. So they doubt and cast shame on scholars assuming they are ingenious.
Circular breathing requires you to puff out your cheeks and contort your lips. The Ancient Hellenic texts claim that the Aulos was invented by Athena who immediately threw it away after she saw how it contorted her face when she played. This implies that the Ancient Greeks had already invented the technique for circular breathing by the time the Aulos was invented. Absolutely fascinating stuff.
Now I'm imagining some no-name musician in the Ancient Mediterranean inventing circular breathing and then making a bet with a famous musician that he could hold a note longer on the aulos than he could :D
I think that's to do with the use of harmonic dissonance as produced by instruments like the dual pipes which are tuned only one note apart (hence lots of second intervals which tend to sound harsh to modern Western ears).
Well there is a reason Orthodox Christians believe dancing to music is devil worship. You'll hear that music is black magic, or that spells are contained within the music. Its a relaxed suggestive state, a trance. Like playing a note and getting all nearby flies to spin around clockwise. Just food for thought :P
yeah this is really awesome. I was sitting here stoned my ass, thinking to myself, I wonder what ancient Greek music sounded like? Search UA-cam and found a guy who not only thought that but decided to go figure it out. Awesome video.
This is fascinating. For me personally, as I am Greek and naturally interested, but also as a part of humanity's heritage. To rediscover music that was enjoyed over 2000 years ago is an incredible contribution to culture and enables us to connect with our ancestors on a higher level than ever before. Thank you for your work!!
The University of Glasgow has been trying to reconstruct ancient roman music found by Hadrian's Wall, and even older music from the early Gaelics. It's easy to think most instruments after a while start looking like this
@@fayereaganlover There is not a single country/culture in the world that is still "the same" as their ancestral predecessors but we still feel a connection to those that lived on the same land and spoke a similar language more than 2000 years ago. Not sure what your issue is.
yes, or in the theatre of Dionysus in Athens - wonderful to imagine...
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The music for sure wouldve been more rythmatic than we think. From all the people who studied the matter Mr D'Angour seems to have a more realistic aproach to what I personaly think the music of classical Greece sounded like. And if people wanna listen to an echo of the past I recommend them taking a look at the launnedas of Sardinia or to the music of mijwiz, yarghoul or arghoul of the near east.
Athens and Korinth yes. As for Sparta, I doubt it. They were far too busy fighting and training for battle and left hardly anything behind them in terms of culture.
theo9952 Sparta was famous for its beautiful choruses and dances, so much so the rhythm and synchronism they developed actually aided them in battle. Spartans always raised the paean (victory song of Apollo) before and after a battle too. There would have undoubtedly been a lot of emphasis on music in Sparta, even if they weren’t as theatrical as the Athenians.
I am grateful to these people who revived the classical music and spirit.I am proud as a Greek when I see our culture traveling across the borders inspiring people
I'm at a loss of words to describe how happy it makes me feel to think that we now are able to do this. Honnestly this is so amazing! I feel like we all owe a thank you to those who worked on restoring this lost knowledge because dang :O I hope one day, when I'll be historian too, I'll be able to do something as admirable and great as this ^_^
I’m so pleased to hear this and wish you the very best in your own historical pursuits. In fact I share your excitement (and I feel similar excitement about a forthcoming project of mine on Socrates).
Adrasthe Well, I admire you. I am currently student of history at uni, but I don’t “feel it”, somehow this kind of life within the history is lost in the methodical learning-only-data approach and when you feel amazing I am happy for you :)
Epoxygleu yes but it’s sad because I am then demotivated to pursue history in my life. But you see the cruel paradox - school is demotivating you and then forcing you to field you don’t have an interest to study anymore :D
Update but I got accepted into classical studies and history at the best uni in my area. I'm tremendously excited to begin (especially since I got mostly greece oriented classes for my first semester) ^_^
Holy shit. Sorry not the most profound thing I've said but that was just so awesome. That pipe player around 9:30 about blew my mind. Very informative video, I loved every minute of it.
this video made me found my dream flute.... the aulos. i play flute since i was a kid, always searched for that special sound to just go sit somewhere in the forest and play like its a dream lol, but this aulos is just the thing i am looking for
Wow!! Absolutely incredible. I can’t imagine the painstaking research required to bring this project into public view. I’m in awe of your work to every person playing an ancient instrument, to those trying to sing a dead language. Absolutely breathtaking to hear it all
John, with all due respect, ancient Greek is NOT a dead language because it cannot logically be distinguished from modern Greek as it is the very same language evolved through the ages. Dead languages are languages like Latin which are not spoken by common people on a daily basis. This is an important distinction. Armand, thank you as well for blocking my main account because I pointed out a fact that the Erasmian pronunciation that you're using is most likely FALSE with evidence like the name "ΑΡΙΣΤΕΙΔΗΣ" written also like "ΑΡΙΣΤΙΔΗΣ" which should not have happened due to an ancient Greek who wrote it not knowing how to write it properly, surely if the letters ΕΙ were pronounced differently than Ι he would've known how to write it correctly! But no, it's easier to block my main account "Proud2bGreek" and most likely this one as well so that people won't be able to see legitimate criticism and make up their own minds! You claim you have evidence that the Erasmian pronunciation is correct, you have yet to provide such supposed evidence so I will keep pointing out false claims!
I’m afraid you’re mistaken, as any Greek scholar can tell you. Why not ask Stelios Psaroudakes or Chrestos Terzes? Why insist on repeating your ill-informed prejudices on this site? Try reading Allen’s Vox Graeca at least to look at the ancient texts that support correct pronunciation - not ‘Erasmian’. The pronunciation differs from Euripides (5th cent) to Athenaios (2nd). If you really believe it didn’t change over 2500 years, there’s no point prolonging this discussion. I cannot persuade people who think they have evidence for the earth being flat - after all, we don’t lean sideways when we walk.
@@Demokritiades 1. I never said it did not change with time. 2. ALL those scholars you've suggested take into account Erasmus work to reach the conclusion that "this" is the way they pronounced the attic dialect. This is circular reasoning. The Erasmian pronunciation is, according to you, correct because those scholars claim that it is because they all derive their conclusions from Erasmus work.Why are you constantly rejecting the fact that all that you know derives from this single person's work? I'm not talking about how I supposedly think the moon is made of cheese or the earth is flat, I'm talking, with EVIDENCE, that ALL this knowledge all those scholars have derives from that Dutch person who lived in medieval times called Erasmus! If you don't like to call it Erasmian call it what you wish, it doesn't change the essence of what I'm saying anyway.Also this claim is no less false if Greeks were to support it so I don't get why you think it would be more convincing to me to hear fellow Greeks repeat a falsehood. I care about evidence, not the ethnicity of the person who utters falsehoods! Here are a couple examples people who support this version should consider, if you or someone else manages to explain these 2 errors then I'll accept that I was wrong. In Aristophanes' "The Wasps" he writes the word "of nature" - "φύσεος" with the letter o instead of ω, the word "φύσεως" is written with the omega instead of the omikron but he used that instead. Also from "The Wasps" the word "δεξιος" - (δεξιοτέχνης=skilled) is sometimes written as δεξιος and sometimes written as "δεξειός". Again, same meaning, same pronunciation but a written error. So if the letters ο and ω, ι and ει are pronounced differently how could Aristophanes make those errors?
@@petr9672 It has been attested that ο and ω, ι and ει are pronounced differently. The errors you mention are rare. The majority of the time they are not mistakes and just because different spellings are used it does not mean they are standardized the way we think of language is now. The most common sensical rationale is, if it's the same sound, why created two different sets of spellings for it? It's not logical. It must be that throughout the years, these initially different sounds merged. Modern reconstructions do not all stem from Erasmus, contrary to your assertion. However, it is very very clear that reading Ancient Greek using Modern Greek pronunciation exactly the way it is now is not correct if your goal is to attempt at pronouncing it as it was in the past. Certain poems don't even sound right when read using modern pronunciation. Erasmus is one attempt at reconstruction
The aulos (Αυλός) is like an ancient flute, with a less smooth texture, like sand, and the name itself is used nowadays in Greece, instead of the word φλάουτο (flute).
Wow that was really wonderful to see! Im a big fan of ancient Greece, especially the bardic songs! The music had an intense sort of disorder within it..almost an eclectic sound.. they were so good at depicting raw emotion You all did such a wonderful job capturing the true ancient Greek style and I'm so glad there's people out here doing this ! I've also always thought that it was certainly possible to reconstruct their songs based on what we already have.
It also sounds quite like western middle-age music. This music might not have disappeared, but might have evolved centeries after centuries into something else, and somewhere else.
D B this is true. Western medieval music has Ancient Greek music features for example the usage of Doric Minor scales in medieval music (which were used in Ancient Greek music)
@@olbiomoiros Dorian in modern times, is not the same mode as what you think it was and therefore you cannot possibly know if it was used in a minor progression as it is today.
Wow! I’m a specialist in performance practice of the Baroque era (baroque Violin and Viola) and this has the be the most fascinating thing I’ve ever seen! Congratulations on your research and performance, I hope we see and hear more of this in the future.
Callum Armstrong's improvised dual-piping is astonishingly beautiful and powerful, and reminds me of some of my favourite pieces of music. Reminiscent of several pieces of Zelda music in particular, such as the Dark World them and Dancing Dragon Dungeon.
@@chrischammas1it actually does, Middle eastern music and especially classical arabic music from the Islamic golden age credited ancient greek musicians and records for resources and influencing their musical traditions
tears comes on eyes ... when i see the effort to reborn what was washed by ages .... trullly what was lost comes back again reminding us what was to be hellen ( ancient greek) congratulations .... !!!
Aylos or Αυλός in Greek is an amazing organ. As a Greek /Italian / I thank you for this amazing work that you are doing. The recreation of the Greek Poetry and music is so beautiful. Brilliant idea.
Crazy how ancient instruments have a way of striking chords deep inside our human consciousness, as though our species has listened to these sounds for so long that we remember them without having ever heard them before. It speaks to our millenia-old collective human memory, somehow.
Hugo Desrosiers-Plaisance you and I stood together on the streets of Greece thousands of years ago listening to the same piper play the same song..... have you forgotten already, old friend?
You're into something, Hugo. I'm not sure, but I've read somewhere that your genes store the memories of your ancestors. Well, it kind of makes sense. If your ancestors fwlt cozy and protected near fireplaces, then you will feel the same way, because that's a great trait. Same thing probably happens with music: we've heard it for such a long time, generation after generation, that we feel like it's something lost a long time ago, but it feels so incredibly familiar. It's fascinating, I feel the same way
I love this, I’ve done a lot of studying of ancient cultures and it’s awesome to not just see their art and know their history, but to hear their music. Thankyou to all the scholars and musicians who must have worked on this.
This music is infused with raw emotion and very beautiful. A tear or two were brought unexpectedly to my eyes. I have never heard music like this. As an old rock guitar player and holder of an Anthropology (archaeology) degree this presentation had a dual impact on me. The performers were wonderful and decoding this music is a great accomplishment. Thank You! - Dave
@Armand D'Angour Thanks for replying. Perhaps more music will be discovered once the ancient carbonized scrolls have been transcribed. I think you will have a lot to do when that happens. What remains to be discovered will be epic. I'm looking forward to hearing more. Regards... - Dave
@Demokretiades Dr D'Angour, I'm Greek and I have a great love for the Classics, especially Greek tragedies. I studied at Oxford for my postgraduate degree (Balliol college, 2020) and my flatmate mentioned you were one of his tutors. I already knew your work and I wish I had the opportunity to have met you then but it was during the pandemic. I hope you organise more events like these - I'd love to attend.
Greek musician here. The ancient ones of us that you all love played strictly in modal music. Those modal patterns were spread to all over the world and of course many other cultures adopted them and made stuff with them. We even have things like that in contemporary music. So thats why you find it familiar. You heard all of those things before in your life you just don't know it
So amazing! I remember thinking, some 20 years ago, how I'd love to hear some _genuine_ *ancient* music. They say you can get everything you want, just not immediately. Seems to pay off! Thanks youtube, for recommending this to me.
This brought such emotion that I can't describe. How amazing to be so lucky to hear this ancient piece of music. To know the melodies and instruments in a way that touches your soul
It's amazing that I can sit in a desert in New Mexico, in 2020 A.D., and be emotionally touched by music composed over 2000 years ago in a civilization on the other side of the world. Talk about effective long-distance communication!
@@Ravi-fx6vf Love Amsterdam! My sister and I visited there (in 1989, I think) after having been detained by East German border guards shortly after the collapse of the Berlin wall and the Iron Curtain. It's a long story how we got stuck in that situation, but we saw the freedom and liveliness of Amsterdam as a way to regain our sanity. We were treated very nicely there!
@@ClearTheRubble7 Hah! Great story, those are the type of stories you travel for. I'm glad you enjoyed this city, even if I wasn't born yet. Can definitely imagine it was a good place to recharge after that! Enjoy life my friend - I will try to do a cross USA roadtrip one day, and think of New Mexico
This is stupendous --- a melodic voice from the ancient past. It was till recently in the realm of our imagination but now reconstructed beautifully, painstakingly. Wow !!! The past beckons.
I am amazed because I always imagined Socrates, Plato and the other gentlemen to be strolling around and chatting to the sound of peaceful and simplistic harp music. This is crazy!
I love seeing the ancient [not sheet music but stone music] score on the stone slab. So glad we can translate that into a melody and recreate a plausible facsimile! A songwriter's work has survived! Very cool. Thanks for sharing.
Amazing stuff, both from a historical and technical perspective. I never knew Callum was so well regarded as an Aulos player - in the Scottish/Irish trad scene he's a renowned multidisciplinary piper!
Amazing, I'm seriously impressed with how you could piece together this music, it is work that really needs to be done before the clues to the music dissapear to history
What a terrific project! Callum Armstrong’s improvisation sounded truly ‘Dionysiac’ and electrifying. It reminded me of the Dionysiac sculptures in Cornwall’s Eden Centre. Personally, I might have preferred if the singers had a more ‘nasal’, archaic or ‘oriental’ sound. I know these texts and have studied (and performed) Byzantine liturgical chant. Ancient and modern have much more in common than may be realised. Greek culture is highly conservative - look, for instance, at how the language has been preserved.
Yes and let's put a bouzouki in there. That is real Greek music, isn't it? And what you are really saying is let's pronounce Greek like the the modern Greeks do because that is so much more authentic.
THANK YOU. Thank you so much for this. As a composition student and lover of all things of Antiquity this is single handed the most wonderful thing I have heard. I have no words to express the joy and excitement this makes me feel. I hope to hear more from this investigation.
I am most amazed that modern Greece has retained the ancient writing system, thus preseving the richness of expression of ancient writings, including written music.
Dr D'Angour, Thank you for combining your musical talent with a meticulous study of the classical evidence to reviving words that were composed to be sung to a tune, and thereby opening up these awesome texts to many more people than they might have done. The richness of the musical accompaniment and the multiplicity of voices (just a taste of some 50-strong choroi at dramatic festivals) comes together in such a captivating way. Like this project and your metrical lectures, I really anticipate more to come on classical music; though the surviving literary texts tend to be quite classical-Athenocentric, it would also be wonderful to learn more about music across the Hellenic world too. :)
Thanks Nicole - yes, the dithyrambs would have had 50 singers! But tragic dramas only 15...There is more to come, but I fear the evidence from outside Athens may be very scanty indeed.
Hello Professor D’Angour. I have been following your work, and that of Tosca Lynch of late. I was in touch with Martin West regarding The Making of the Iliad- his loss was shattering. I am so glad you, Tosca Lynch, Stefan Hagel (who has been patient with me as I read his Ancient Greek Music, 2009) and many other eminent scholars continue such fine research. I am slowly re-reading West, AGM, for all its treasures. I have many questions. I hope to converse with you at some point. But for now, thanks for sharing this wonderful work!
This was so fascinating!! Loved the dissonance!! Apparently I have taken too many poetry classes, as that first song had me rolling. It sounded like an ancient rap song to me: twin peaks, all the ladies, and manly flowing springs. Probably just me putting a Shakespeare lens on it.
_Wonderful work_ of scholarship and musicianship alike! The ancient "enthusiasm" hasn't vanished yet. Can't help thinking that the late Martin West would have _loved_ to hear these reconstructions.
This music really changes how I think about greek myth. To hear the music ancient greece thought was right to accompany their gods and heroes gives the myths a complet new context for me
THANK YOU VERY MUCH Dr Armand, for for bringing us back to the divine music of Ancient Greece! Hearing it is a genuine journey in time! Thanks again, and greetings from Brazil :-)
Thank you - as you can see, it was a huge collaboration with wonderful scholars and musicians. My main contribution was understanding the function of ancient microtones better, I think, than previous scholars.
I adore reconstructed music! The Hubei Conservatory did deep research on the relics found in the Tomb of Marquis Yi of Zeng from ~420BC (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomb_of_Marquis_Yi_of_Zeng) and slowly, painstakingly, over the years reconstructed what the music must have sounded like. I was privileged to attend two of their performances of reconstructed and "inspired-by" works with reproduction instruments and reproduction costumes. It was an utter delight. I'd love to see this work live as well now.
The song was truly amazing, I am very curious about the two thousand years old lyrics, somehow they looked very “metal” to me lol. Very powerful atmosphere in the song. The improvised double pipe demonstration was also very interesting.
san ellinas kai kefalonitis eimai poli yperhfanos pou epitelous bgainei sthn epifaneia h ellhnikh mousikh kao oxi h blaxikh giati otan mia kefalonitikh xorwdia phge kai tragoudhse sthn LARISA tous ekraxan legontas tous oxw oi latinoi omws enas kefalonitis tous rwthse an gnwrizoun then enoia tou xwrodou kai ths xwrwdias san blaxoi ti na apanthsoun . omws xronia argotera zhthsan sugnwmh
Update for everyone! Callum has posted the full aulos improvisation song on his channel just this year! Finally! ua-cam.com/video/6JFa8BZt2B0/v-deo.html
Great! Thank you.
Yesss. Thought I'd check back after a while
Assistido. Vânia Cristina.TTM
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With this info you have deserved a peace of land and a crown. Been looking for this piece of music for so long and given it up a year ago..thanks!!
ancient greek ghosts like "oh come on, i JUST managed to get that song out of my head"
‘After the failure of Athens’ campaign to conquer Sicily [in 413 BC], 6000 Athenian prisoners were kept in a sweltering Syracusan quarry. Only a few managed to save their lives - because they could sing Euripides’ music, of which the Sicilians were great fans. When they returned to Athens the survivors sought out Euripides to thank him for composing such memorable - and literally life-saving - music’. [Plutarch, Life of Nicias].
Their ghosts can now recall his music with new gratitude for the few extra years of life it granted them!
@@Demokritiades Um...Interesting recreation---but---Not sure about its accuracy. And I am not sure about if given the same instruments I wouldnt produce something FAR more interesting, rhythmically and in timing, yet of course I am a modern. To me, it sounds slightly like they are infusing a medieval music feel to the singing and playing. They have based their interpretation of ancient music based on early known medieval traditions that have come to us. I am not sure if we can guarantee that simply if we recreate the instruments and sing the songs, that we can do exactly as they ancients did. This certainty hasnt been provided and probably NEVER will, since, there are no recordings of ancient music. I am not sure that the basis of this recreation has merit if it is based on western medieval music, or medieval music in general. Do we have any idea about the sounds of ancient music other than mere notation. Just as today, as well, players may have had different ways of playing as well, and this might change over time.
@@devinreese1109 Dude, it's a common place that- if you listened to video rather than thinking up an (not) clever retort - the exact musical notation exists.
You are aware of an invention called "the internet?" There is no reason therefore to appear an ass before 611,827 viewers (you're 828) as I say, this notation from Delphi and elsewhere, has been known for ages.
You did stumble into one interesting point - about the possible relationship between medieval music and the music of "classical antiquity." It would seem the reverse is true, as some medieval music does indeed sound like some of the pieces performed in this video. This IS speculation, on my part. However, that the precise pitches of Greek music has been available for (ever practically) is not in dispute.
@@Demokritiades very very interesting research and results. Mr. D'Angour, is there some written document about your research work? I'd love to get depper in how you discover that symbols belongs to notation and how to translate it into tones, congratulations, great sound archaeology work!!
Stefan Hagel plays a kithara that he has designed. Barnaby and Callum play auloi built to replicate ancient instruments found in archaeological contexts.
8:57 circular breathing as smooth as silk!
Yeah, that's jaw-droppingly impressive. And I'm a mere pianist who's only heard of this technique in the legends of wind instrumentalists.
how is it possible, if you are breathing in and breathing out at the same time how is your brain/blood getting oxygen?
@@mcrettable Puff up your cheeks and try to breathe using your nose while keeping your cheeks puffed. That's it in the simplest terms.
That was beautiful
That tune is so much like the opening of this song here: ua-cam.com/video/hf1FpQxmOhQ/v-deo.html
this video filled me with hope and optimism. history is never as dead as it can seem.
That's exactly why I want to major in it. History is never dead!
Optimism is cawardic. Ancient Greece disappear 2000 years ago. Listening today's Greece music and all their culture, is a barbarians.
everyone's commennts are just just from years ago
All you people saying this probably isn’t what it sounded like need to get in touch with reality. These guys are from Oxford university and the last 2000 years have been recorded near meticulously from various accounts in nearly every year. They have the instruments and a good idea of how the songs sounded. These people study these things with the utmost intent on being factually correct; they are not easily swayed by the corrupt pushing some nationalistic agenda. I know it’s hard to believe some people actually know a lot of things. And just so, there are seemingly endless historical accounts over the last 2000 years that help very well educated people such as these construct a clear picture of history that you average fools will never be capable of perceiving. Keep your ignorant comments to ourself. Philosophical doubt is useful in the hands of someone intelligent but offers the common fool a false sense of contentment in a world they never put a real effort into understanding. So they doubt and cast shame on scholars assuming they are ingenious.
Can you explain why?
Circular breathing requires you to puff out your cheeks and contort your lips. The Ancient Hellenic texts claim that the Aulos was invented by Athena who immediately threw it away after she saw how it contorted her face when she played. This implies that the Ancient Greeks had already invented the technique for circular breathing by the time the Aulos was invented. Absolutely fascinating stuff.
Now I'm imagining some no-name musician in the Ancient Mediterranean inventing circular breathing and then making a bet with a famous musician that he could hold a note longer on the aulos than he could :D
@@StrategicGamesEtc A 100%. Betting/Gambling is Greeks' national drug.
8:55-10:45 mezmerizing, I wish he would keep playing.
That young man was born for this - like a messenger
Callum Armstrong-- pantastic!
@@NotMyName888 sort of like a modern day Hermes, maybe?
It has finally been posted as a separate song, here: ua-cam.com/video/6JFa8BZt2B0/v-deo.html
This music has a kind of hallucinating, mesmerising quality to it.
True a bit unpleasant a bit frightening and epic
I think that's to do with the use of harmonic dissonance as produced by instruments like the dual pipes which are tuned only one note apart (hence lots of second intervals which tend to sound harsh to modern Western ears).
Well there is a reason Orthodox Christians believe dancing to music is devil worship.
You'll hear that music is black magic, or that spells are contained within the music.
Its a relaxed suggestive state, a trance.
Like playing a note and getting all nearby flies to spin around clockwise.
Just food for thought :P
@@Paid2Win christians are known for calling whatever they don’t understand demonic, its kinda their brand haha
@@ceilingeye entirely 🤣
yeah this is really awesome. I was sitting here stoned my ass, thinking to myself, I wonder what ancient Greek music sounded like? Search UA-cam and found a guy who not only thought that but decided to go figure it out. Awesome video.
Same
Same, not stoned, but drunk. Would love some of that fine kush tho lmao.
This is the most hilarious way to put it. I love it.
music archaeology...amazing...music shared over all those generations..thank you for all your hard work
thank you - it is a marvellous collaboration and great fun
This is fascinating. For me personally, as I am Greek and naturally interested, but also as a part of humanity's heritage. To rediscover music that was enjoyed over 2000 years ago is an incredible contribution to culture and enables us to connect with our ancestors on a higher level than ever before. Thank you for your work!!
lucky you to be a Greek!!😘
The University of Glasgow has been trying to reconstruct ancient roman music found by Hadrian's Wall, and even older music from the early Gaelics. It's easy to think most instruments after a while start looking like this
You're not the same as the ancient Greeks
@@fayereaganlover There is not a single country/culture in the world that is still "the same" as their ancestral predecessors but we still feel a connection to those that lived on the same land and spoke a similar language more than 2000 years ago. Not sure what your issue is.
Greek men are among the most handsome one’s , literally.
9:30 + -epic....
Imagine walking down the streets of Athens, Sparta or Korinth on which performances like this would'he been done.
yes, or in the theatre of Dionysus in Athens - wonderful to imagine...
The music for sure wouldve been more rythmatic than we think. From all the people who studied the matter Mr D'Angour seems to have a more realistic aproach to what I personaly think the music of classical Greece sounded like. And if people wanna listen to an echo of the past I recommend them taking a look at the launnedas of Sardinia or to the music of mijwiz, yarghoul or arghoul of the near east.
Yes, it's truly incredible.
Athens and Korinth yes. As for Sparta, I doubt it. They were far too busy fighting and training for battle and left hardly anything behind them in terms of culture.
theo9952 Sparta was famous for its beautiful choruses and dances, so much so the rhythm and synchronism they developed actually aided them in battle. Spartans always raised the paean (victory song of Apollo) before and after a battle too. There would have undoubtedly been a lot of emphasis on music in Sparta, even if they weren’t as theatrical as the Athenians.
I am grateful to these people who revived the classical music and spirit.I am proud as a Greek when I see our culture traveling across the borders inspiring people
Master Armand D'Angour it will elevate my spirit if one day I meet you and get some of your wisdom.I am also based in the UK
Your culture is the bomb! 😃 😄 lol
ευχαριστώ. θα χαρούμε να σας συναντήσουμε και να μιλήσουμε για το έργο.
Man you should really be proud, your ancient culture is the foundation of western culture...
totally agree @Marco Gardini
What a joy, I am impressed by the scholarship, and enchanted by the result. Thank you
Thank you for your lovely comment.
Enchanted
This is a fabulous piece of forensic archaeology, bravo!
I'm at a loss of words to describe how happy it makes me feel to think that we now are able to do this. Honnestly this is so amazing! I feel like we all owe a thank you to those who worked on restoring this lost knowledge because dang :O I hope one day, when I'll be historian too, I'll be able to do something as admirable and great as this ^_^
I’m so pleased to hear this and wish you the very best in your own historical pursuits. In fact I share your excitement (and I feel similar excitement about a forthcoming project of mine on Socrates).
Adrasthe Well, I admire you. I am currently student of history at uni, but I don’t “feel it”, somehow this kind of life within the history is lost in the methodical learning-only-data approach and when you feel amazing I am happy for you :)
Epoxygleu yes but it’s sad because I am then demotivated to pursue history in my life. But you see the cruel paradox - school is demotivating you and then forcing you to field you don’t have an interest to study anymore :D
Update but I got accepted into classical studies and history at the best uni in my area. I'm tremendously excited to begin (especially since I got mostly greece oriented classes for my first semester) ^_^
Holy shit. Sorry not the most profound thing I've said but that was just so awesome. That pipe player around 9:30 about blew my mind. Very informative video, I loved every minute of it.
Enthusiasm is always appreciated...
@@Demokritiades hello, this sounds like Albanian folklore songs played on clarinette.
this video made me found my dream flute.... the aulos. i play flute since i was a kid, always searched for that special sound to just go sit somewhere in the forest and play like its a dream lol, but this aulos is just the thing i am looking for
Those pipers are DAMN FINE musicians!
I completely loved it, wow
Wow!! Absolutely incredible. I can’t imagine the painstaking research required to bring this project into public view. I’m in awe of your work to every person playing an ancient instrument, to those trying to sing a dead language. Absolutely breathtaking to hear it all
Thank you. It was a collaborative effort with many dedicated musicians and researchers.
John, with all due respect, ancient Greek is NOT a dead language because it cannot logically be distinguished from modern Greek as it is the very same language evolved through the ages. Dead languages are languages like Latin which are not spoken by common people on a daily basis. This is an important distinction.
Armand, thank you as well for blocking my main account because I pointed out a fact that the Erasmian pronunciation that you're using is most likely FALSE with evidence like the name "ΑΡΙΣΤΕΙΔΗΣ" written also like "ΑΡΙΣΤΙΔΗΣ" which should not have happened due to an ancient Greek who wrote it not knowing how to write it properly, surely if the letters ΕΙ were pronounced differently than Ι he would've known how to write it correctly! But no, it's easier to block my main account "Proud2bGreek" and most likely this one as well so that people won't be able to see legitimate criticism and make up their own minds!
You claim you have evidence that the Erasmian pronunciation is correct, you have yet to provide such supposed evidence so I will keep pointing out false claims!
I’m afraid you’re mistaken, as any Greek scholar can tell you. Why not ask Stelios Psaroudakes or Chrestos Terzes? Why insist on repeating your ill-informed prejudices on this site? Try reading Allen’s Vox Graeca at least to look at the ancient texts that support correct pronunciation - not ‘Erasmian’. The pronunciation differs from Euripides (5th cent) to Athenaios (2nd). If you really believe it didn’t change over 2500 years, there’s no point prolonging this discussion. I cannot persuade people who think they have evidence for the earth being flat - after all, we don’t lean sideways when we walk.
@@Demokritiades 1. I never said it did not change with time.
2. ALL those scholars you've suggested take into account Erasmus work to reach the conclusion that "this" is the way they pronounced the attic dialect. This is circular reasoning. The Erasmian pronunciation is, according to you, correct because those scholars claim that it is because they all derive their conclusions from Erasmus work.Why are you constantly rejecting the fact that all that you know derives from this single person's work? I'm not talking about how I supposedly think the moon is made of cheese or the earth is flat, I'm talking, with EVIDENCE, that ALL this knowledge all those scholars have derives from that Dutch person who lived in medieval times called Erasmus!
If you don't like to call it Erasmian call it what you wish, it doesn't change the essence of what I'm saying anyway.Also this claim is no less false if Greeks were to support it so I don't get why you think it would be more convincing to me to hear fellow Greeks repeat a falsehood. I care about evidence, not the ethnicity of the person who utters falsehoods!
Here are a couple examples people who support this version should consider, if you or someone else manages to explain these 2 errors then I'll accept that I was wrong.
In Aristophanes' "The Wasps" he writes the word "of nature" - "φύσεος" with the letter o instead of ω, the word "φύσεως" is written with the omega instead of the omikron but he used that instead.
Also from "The Wasps" the word "δεξιος" - (δεξιοτέχνης=skilled) is sometimes written as δεξιος and sometimes written as "δεξειός". Again, same meaning, same pronunciation but a written error.
So if the letters ο and ω, ι and ει are pronounced differently how could Aristophanes make those errors?
@@petr9672 It has been attested that ο and ω, ι and ει are pronounced differently. The errors you mention are rare. The majority of the time they are not mistakes and just because different spellings are used it does not mean they are standardized the way we think of language is now. The most common sensical rationale is, if it's the same sound, why created two different sets of spellings for it? It's not logical. It must be that throughout the years, these initially different sounds merged. Modern reconstructions do not all stem from Erasmus, contrary to your assertion. However, it is very very clear that reading Ancient Greek using Modern Greek pronunciation exactly the way it is now is not correct if your goal is to attempt at pronouncing it as it was in the past. Certain poems don't even sound right when read using modern pronunciation. Erasmus is one attempt at reconstruction
That was fascinating and really quite beautiful. The aulos has a marvellous sound.
Very true Sir , some how brought tears to my eyes . The Aulos by Callum was beautiful .Thanks to the whole team .
The aulos (Αυλός) is like an ancient flute, with a less smooth texture, like sand, and the name itself is used nowadays in Greece, instead of the word φλάουτο (flute).
Wow that was really wonderful to see! Im a big fan of ancient Greece, especially the bardic songs! The music had an intense sort of disorder within it..almost an eclectic sound.. they were so good at depicting raw emotion
You all did such a wonderful job capturing the true ancient Greek style and I'm so glad there's people out here doing this !
I've also always thought that it was certainly possible to reconstruct their songs based on what we already have.
We need music like this on spotify
It also sounds quite like western middle-age music. This music might not have disappeared, but might have evolved centeries after centuries into something else, and somewhere else.
Yes - I’d prefer the word ‘medieval’ though!
Yes, amazingly like so much medieval European music.
D B this is true. Western medieval music has Ancient Greek music features for example the usage of Doric Minor scales in medieval music (which were used in Ancient Greek music)
You got it right
@@olbiomoiros Dorian in modern times, is not the same mode as what you think it was and therefore you cannot possibly know if it was used in a minor progression as it is today.
WOW the gentleman playing the flute is so incredibly talented. His performance was mesmerizing.
Great achievement in music, history and science! Unbelievable! Thank you very much!
ira branov Thank you.
Love the passion these scholars have for their work
There are no words to thank you enough. Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU a thousand times
This speaks to my soul in such a deep way, it feels like I’ve wanted to hear this for so long, thank you!
A lovely miracle that the melodies of ancient times have been transmitted through the ages for the modern world to behold!
Wow! I’m a specialist in performance practice of the Baroque era (baroque Violin and Viola) and this has the be the most fascinating thing I’ve ever seen! Congratulations on your research and performance, I hope we see and hear more of this in the future.
gJb 1 Alrighy then...stay classy
Callum Armstrong's improvised dual-piping is astonishingly beautiful and powerful, and reminds me of some of my favourite pieces of music. Reminiscent of several pieces of Zelda music in particular, such as the Dark World them and Dancing Dragon Dungeon.
Dual piping is part of modern Middle East music... i imagine current Mid East music retains elements of Greek music from Hellenic period
Brought a tear to my eye
@@chrischammas1
My thoughts exactly, folk music is surprisingly conservative and should not be discounted .
Deku Palace theme from Zelda
@@chrischammas1it actually does, Middle eastern music and especially classical arabic music from the Islamic golden age credited ancient greek musicians and records for resources and influencing their musical traditions
tears comes on eyes ... when i see the effort to reborn what was washed by ages ....
trullly what was lost comes back again
reminding us what was to be hellen ( ancient greek)
congratulations .... !!!
Aylos or Αυλός in Greek is an amazing organ. As a Greek /Italian / I thank you for this amazing work that you are doing. The recreation of the Greek Poetry and music is so beautiful. Brilliant idea.
wow!!!!!!! kithara aulos magic, they sound so familiar to my greek ears! Weldone!
Callum Armstrong had me in awe, I need more of those sounds, I want that to be to sound of my life!
Crazy how ancient instruments have a way of striking chords deep inside our human consciousness, as though our species has listened to these sounds for so long that we remember them without having ever heard them before. It speaks to our millenia-old collective human memory, somehow.
The aulos is particularly evocative.
It’s the Pentatonic 😉.
I like the way you think
Hugo Desrosiers-Plaisance you and I stood together on the streets of Greece thousands of years ago listening to the same piper play the same song..... have you forgotten already, old friend?
You're into something, Hugo. I'm not sure, but I've read somewhere that your genes store the memories of your ancestors. Well, it kind of makes sense. If your ancestors fwlt cozy and protected near fireplaces, then you will feel the same way, because that's a great trait. Same thing probably happens with music: we've heard it for such a long time, generation after generation, that we feel like it's something lost a long time ago, but it feels so incredibly familiar. It's fascinating, I feel the same way
I love this, I’ve done a lot of studying of ancient cultures and it’s awesome to not just see their art and know their history, but to hear their music. Thankyou to all the scholars and musicians who must have worked on this.
This is incredible! Wonderful work by such talented people. The lyrics at the end were especially interesting.
Amazing and most precious work of rescuing ancient music, thank you ever so much for uploading this here! Sharing, for sure!
This music is infused with raw emotion and very beautiful. A tear or two were brought unexpectedly to my eyes. I have never heard music like this. As an old rock guitar player and holder of an Anthropology (archaeology) degree this presentation had a dual impact on me. The performers were wonderful and decoding this music is a great accomplishment. Thank You!
- Dave
Your comments are much appreciated. It’s a delight to share these discoveries with people who can appreciate both the project and its results.
@Armand D'Angour
Thanks for replying.
Perhaps more music will be discovered once the ancient carbonized scrolls have been transcribed. I think you will have a lot to do when that happens. What remains to be discovered will be epic. I'm looking forward to hearing more. Regards...
- Dave
@Demokretiades Dr D'Angour, I'm Greek and I have a great love for the Classics, especially Greek tragedies. I studied at Oxford for my postgraduate degree (Balliol college, 2020) and my flatmate mentioned you were one of his tutors. I already knew your work and I wish I had the opportunity to have met you then but it was during the pandemic. I hope you organise more events like these - I'd love to attend.
Amazing work, as a Greek it's just incredible to see this ancient music come to life!
That early double flute sounds similar to the clarinet. It was all very interesting. Wonderful research. Congratulations.
I can't believe how beautiful the Aulos can be!
I cannot thank all of you enough, you are doing extremely important work
This music is a bit bizarre compared to more contemporary songs, yet it sounds familiar somehow. I like it!
Sounds kinda like some songs in my church.
Greek musician here. The ancient ones of us that you all love played strictly in modal music. Those modal patterns were spread to all over the world and of course many other cultures adopted them and made stuff with them. We even have things like that in contemporary music. So thats why you find it familiar. You heard all of those things before in your life you just don't know it
@@cozasful it's more because the more famous Turkish and Eastern European modern popular music have very similar sounds
It sounds more familiar
It sounds middle eastern, that's why.
So amazing! I remember thinking, some 20 years ago, how I'd love to hear some _genuine_ *ancient* music. They say you can get everything you want, just not immediately. Seems to pay off! Thanks youtube, for recommending this to me.
This is so incredible! Thank youfor bringing this to us!
This brought such emotion that I can't describe. How amazing to be so lucky to hear this ancient piece of music. To know the melodies and instruments in a way that touches your soul
Συγχαρητήρια! Πολύ καλές εκτελέσεις!
This is amazing. Great work. And thank you so much for sharing.
It's amazing that I can sit in a desert in New Mexico, in 2020 A.D., and be emotionally touched by music composed over 2000 years ago in a civilization on the other side of the world. Talk about effective long-distance communication!
Great comment. I can enjoy your region by watching ‘better call saul’ and ‘breaking bad’, also from that other side of the world.
@@Ravi-fx6vf Lol, both filmed right where I live, in Albuquerque. The odd thing is, I've never seen a single episode of either one. 😂
@@ClearTheRubble7 the wonders of the 21st century :)
enjoy New Mexico, much too hot for me.
-From Amsterdam, The Netherlands
@@Ravi-fx6vf Love Amsterdam! My sister and I visited there (in 1989, I think) after having been detained by East German border guards shortly after the collapse of the Berlin wall and the Iron Curtain. It's a long story how we got stuck in that situation, but we saw the freedom and liveliness of Amsterdam as a way to regain our sanity. We were treated very nicely there!
@@ClearTheRubble7 Hah! Great story, those are the type of stories you travel for.
I'm glad you enjoyed this city, even if I wasn't born yet.
Can definitely imagine it was a good place to recharge after that!
Enjoy life my friend - I will try to do a cross USA roadtrip one day, and think of New Mexico
At 11:20, this melody is in Civ III soundtrack, as part of the ancient era!!! Always loved this song but never thought it was actually historical.
Jannerson Xavier yes - Athenaios’ Paean is the best preserved long ancient score
This is stupendous --- a melodic voice from the ancient past. It was till recently in the realm of our imagination but now reconstructed beautifully, painstakingly. Wow !!! The past beckons.
Dude, that improvised aulos performance was amazing!
This is amazing, you are doing humanity a great service by rediscovering the values of our ancestors. Thank you for your research and for this video!
That double pipe impro was really good.. thanks for this
What a great thing you've done here. Thank you for this.
A kind comment - thank you. Credit to all the musicians and scholars, and to the film-maker Oxford Digital Media.
that was the most beautiful thing i've ever heard
I am amazed because I always imagined Socrates, Plato and the other gentlemen to be strolling around and chatting to the sound of peaceful and simplistic harp music.
This is crazy!
Awesome to the extreme. Brilliant project.
I love seeing the ancient [not sheet music but stone music] score on the stone slab. So glad we can translate that into a melody and recreate a plausible facsimile! A songwriter's work has survived! Very cool. Thanks for sharing.
Beautiful. The circular breathing improvisation is amazing!
The sound is actually amazing!
Absolutely beautiful! Just pure perfection!
I love seeing videos like this. History is soo fascinating and being able to bring history to life is just spectacular!
Please More of this!!!!!!
I love how passionate the pipers are about the music they are playing
What a beautiful result!
Thank you for your research, dedication and hard work!
Such an 'acoustic' delight! 🎶🎵🎼
So good even Euripides would love it!
Amazing stuff, both from a historical and technical perspective. I never knew Callum was so well regarded as an Aulos player - in the Scottish/Irish trad scene he's a renowned multidisciplinary piper!
Amazing, I'm seriously impressed with how you could piece together this music, it is work that really needs to be done before the clues to the music dissapear to history
How beautiful! You all did such an amazing job :) Thanks so much for pouring so much of your time and effort into this!
Dude that double pipe solo shreds
I could listen to the piper for hours...
9:00 to 11:00 are very enchanting
What a terrific project! Callum Armstrong’s improvisation sounded truly ‘Dionysiac’ and electrifying. It reminded me of the Dionysiac sculptures in Cornwall’s Eden Centre. Personally, I might have preferred if the singers had a more ‘nasal’, archaic or ‘oriental’ sound. I know these texts and have studied (and performed) Byzantine liturgical chant. Ancient and modern have much more in common than may be realised. Greek culture is highly conservative - look, for instance, at how the language has been preserved.
Yes and let's put a bouzouki in there. That is real Greek music, isn't it? And what you are really saying is let's pronounce Greek like the the modern Greeks do because that is so much more authentic.
THANK YOU. Thank you so much for this. As a composition student and lover of all things of Antiquity this is single handed the most wonderful thing I have heard. I have no words to express the joy and excitement this makes me feel.
I hope to hear more from this investigation.
Delighted with your response, thank you. It's a truly exciting project - and there is a lot more to come!
To hear this music was a revelation. Thank you.
5/22/23 I am thrilled!
thanx for this gift
Σας ευχαριστώ - είμαι πάντα ιδιαίτερα χαρούμενος όταν οι Έλληνες φίλοι εγκρίνουν το έργο.
I keep coming back to this video...just amazing..so wonderful
Outstanding! Thanks so much for this!
I am most amazed that modern Greece has retained the ancient writing system, thus preseving the richness of expression of ancient writings, including written music.
Thank you very much for sharing your work and actively answering questions here on UA-cam. I've learned a lot from your comments.
Thank you!
Dr D'Angour,
Thank you for combining your musical talent with a meticulous study of the classical evidence to reviving words that were composed to be sung to a tune, and thereby opening up these awesome texts to many more people than they might have done. The richness of the musical accompaniment and the multiplicity of voices (just a taste of some 50-strong choroi at dramatic festivals) comes together in such a captivating way.
Like this project and your metrical lectures, I really anticipate more to come on classical music; though the surviving literary texts tend to be quite classical-Athenocentric, it would also be wonderful to learn more about music across the Hellenic world too. :)
Thanks Nicole - yes, the dithyrambs would have had 50 singers! But tragic dramas only 15...There is more to come, but I fear the evidence from outside Athens may be very scanty indeed.
Hello Professor D’Angour. I have been following your work, and that of Tosca Lynch of late. I was in touch with Martin West regarding The Making of the Iliad- his loss was shattering. I am so glad you, Tosca Lynch, Stefan Hagel (who has been patient with me as I read his Ancient Greek Music, 2009) and many other eminent scholars continue such fine research. I am slowly re-reading West, AGM, for all its treasures. I have many questions. I hope to converse with you at some point. But for now, thanks for sharing this wonderful work!
This was so fascinating!! Loved the dissonance!!
Apparently I have taken too many poetry classes, as that first song had me rolling. It sounded like an ancient rap song to me: twin peaks, all the ladies, and manly flowing springs.
Probably just me putting a Shakespeare lens on it.
_Wonderful work_ of scholarship and musicianship alike! The ancient "enthusiasm" hasn't vanished yet. Can't help thinking that the late Martin West would have _loved_ to hear these reconstructions.
I said that about Martin when I introduced the concert. His wife was in the audience.
@@Demokritiades _Fantastic!_ I hope she enjoyed it as much as we all have. Thank you so much for sharing this video.
This music really changes how I think about greek myth. To hear the music ancient greece thought was right to accompany their gods and heroes gives the myths a complet new context for me
THANK YOU VERY MUCH Dr Armand, for for bringing us back to the divine music of Ancient Greece! Hearing it is a genuine journey in time! Thanks again, and greetings from Brazil :-)
Thank you - as you can see, it was a huge collaboration with wonderful scholars and musicians. My main contribution was understanding the function of ancient microtones better, I think, than previous scholars.
I adore reconstructed music!
The Hubei Conservatory did deep research on the relics found in the Tomb of Marquis Yi of Zeng from ~420BC (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomb_of_Marquis_Yi_of_Zeng) and slowly, painstakingly, over the years reconstructed what the music must have sounded like. I was privileged to attend two of their performances of reconstructed and "inspired-by" works with reproduction instruments and reproduction costumes. It was an utter delight.
I'd love to see this work live as well now.
The old ones must be happy to hear their music played once again. Simply wonderful
That dual pipe improvisation was AMAZING. There are tears rolling down my cheeks.
Wonderful approach! I'm loving it.
The song was truly amazing, I am very curious about the two thousand years old lyrics, somehow they looked very “metal” to me lol. Very powerful atmosphere in the song. The improvised double pipe demonstration was also very interesting.
So amazing. I have always wished I could hear what ancient cultures heard. These people are doing great work!
san ellinas kai kefalonitis eimai poli yperhfanos pou epitelous bgainei sthn epifaneia h ellhnikh mousikh kao oxi h blaxikh giati otan mia kefalonitikh xorwdia
phge kai tragoudhse sthn LARISA tous ekraxan legontas tous oxw oi latinoi
omws enas kefalonitis tous rwthse an gnwrizoun then enoia tou xwrodou kai ths xwrwdias san blaxoi ti na apanthsoun .
omws xronia argotera zhthsan sugnwmh
Absolutely beautiful
Pan is smiling....
Yes he is, you feel it. Hail pan.. io pan
Excellent. Thank you and your colleagues for their hard work.