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How The Nephisto Civil War Started [full interview details] Rise of Kingdoms
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- Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
- I met with 550M power Nephisto and the officers of K2831 to get both perspectives on why their civil war unfolded, and on the exact sequence of events. Although my representation is undoubtedly imperfect, I've tried to represent both parties as equitably and accurately as possible. Anything that is perceived as unequal or inaccurate in this representation is fully unintended.
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0:00 Massive Civil War
1:45 What Happened: Officer’s Perspective
10:02 What Happened: Nephisto’s Perspective
15:01 Summary
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Although my representation is undoubtedly imperfect, I've tried to represent both parties as equitably and accurately as possible. Anything that is perceived as unequal or inaccurate in this representation is fully unintended.
it’s alright the whole situation seemed like a mess to start with
I'd say Nephisto is wrong, seems to me as if he wasn't really involved in the family leadership. They have plans for sure if their king migrates...
@@leeeo576 sorry but a plan where no alliance jumping during kvk to help members get rewards, honor is dumb. I would personally zero person who demands that. If your an actual rok player you know how to work with the kd to share not dictate
Good to hear you are also updated on chess scandal hahaha
Chisguile you mind adding me on discord?
Cival War is actually one of the coolest parts of the game imo. Maybe more the diplomacy aspect both internally and between kingdoms. I think the who's wrong and who's right isn't actually important at all in the end. As Churchill famously said after the Great War “War does not determine who is right - only who is left.”
True... I really hope they settle their dispute
Well you know what they say in House of the Dragon, "The only thing that could tear down the House of the Dragon was itself."
Same applies to every kingdom.
Actually most kingdoms die because they realize they're not strong enough compared to other kingdoms.
Hey sugar remember skyfather😇
Imagine this being your first home kingdom experience in rok 😆
same thing happened in 2085. civil war to a big whale zeroed all in kvk1
This was my experience in 1433 when chinese streamer Zico invaded the kingdom, the civil war was for a week or 2 till they successfully got inside zone 3 and won and we all had to migrate or start over.
Yes cherry !!!
Happened to me twice in row 1st 1958 then one week later 1955 after Spanish group invaded Vietnamese kd
@@moutan100 Lol yeah I had a jumper in 2084/83 and I remember that
More videos like this!
Every KD has their stories, Please continue to make more of these.
I was just watching a few videos following up on the chess controversy before watching this video haha. So true about all the internet drama lately, almost feels like we're entering a new internet era. On the other hand, RoK civil war stories never get dull. Thanks for sharing the juicy gossip!
I feel like chisgule could cover all the kingdom drama worth covering, and get hella views from it.
That’s pretty much what’s he’s doing
@@conqeeftador5559 I'm saying if he continues. You have any idea how common this issue is? Minus the whale...like 1 out of 2-3 kingdoms
@@conqeeftador5559 notice how I said "all kingdom drama worth covering"
Good video chis u make rok 1000x more fun keep going!😁
I remember rohney once declared war against his home Kingdom with baba ...that was one big powers clash
this is the quality content i breathe and live for. Who woulda though ROK gossip was a thing.
There is so much drama going on around ROK and so many good things too that we all love. Thanks so much Chis and everyone who are always making this community great!
A player this size will take the kingdom for himself, especially this early into the game. He will drain everyone before he runs out of anything
Facts and when the kingdom is open for migration nephisto will probably have friends or other whales that like him will join and completely take over
"take the kingdom for himself" what? Nephsito doesn't need a top spot on mge or other events, he spends more than 10k daily.
@@LxusORG not talking about mge or other events 🤓🤓 im speaking of in general, he wants king and hes gonna take it if he wants to 😂😂
@@LxusORG Power. These whales think that they can do whatever they want in early stages of the game and when they get it, they just turn the kd into a dictatorship, and since he has so much power, nobody can say 'no', and the kd will eventually die.
Waking up with Chisgule drama videos, today is going to be a good day
From what I know, both Tribute and The Answer have a history in ROK, was in kvk against them with both their names with a total of 600m power with both accounts combined in 2329, but you cant quote me, these might be different players tho unlikely
Correct, The Answer is a rich guy with a bad attitude, he was leader of 2329 and his field skills were terrible and he was a bad King, he didnt know anything about leading in ROK. So my take is that actually Nephisto really is The answer and vice versa. And yes thats definitely the same guy, the same discord ID.
@@thevindicator9843 yea, I actually wanted to migrate to 2329 after starting my account in 2336, another “bought” kingdom or so it seems, I had a chat with a few players and they shared they equally horrible experience, I then moved on to 2413 and had a great few kvks.
I already quit but getting all kinds of notification about this drama, lol. And interesting how Tribute is back 😅
He is so strong that he can just take the kingdom if he wanted too. You can’t stop a 500m person in kvk1. He can just take it if he wants
rok isnt banning nephista for account sharing theyre getting 5k+ a day from him
I kinda like this kind of content 🫣😆
Congrats and thanks bro chisgule
Grande Fratello 💪💪
I have a question, I have 5512 YSG but cav main low spender I just finished kvk 1 and I’m wondering if I should invest my gold heads (120) in Alex for Alex ysg or if should hold for Nevsky
Never had so many ads in a video, geez
Do you think you will ever make a new account to play the new kvk 1 map I think it will be fun to watch if you ever do
We need this drama once in a while 🤭😅🎊
I believe that buying and selling kingdom leadership wouldn't be against Lilith ToS since it is difficult to claim that it could be considered assets belonging to Lilith. While account information is stored on Lilith's servers, kingdom leadership can cycle and therefore probably isn't considered Lilith assets. Despite this, ToS also states that Lilith can decide to take whatever action the decide is necessary to punish players for going against ToS, so engaging in activity which is even in a grey area is risky.
99.99% of drama is ALWAYS as a result of a handful of whales with an ego problem trying to throw their weight around.
When you’re at 500m power in kvk1 its only right lmaooo why tf else would anyone spend that kind of money day1 if not to bully everyone around ? Edit: also peeps should stop being babies and just join the alliance of said whale, what do you have to gain from fighting someone over 100m power in kvk1, nothing other than losing all your progression. However, if peeps would just accept that there’s others out there willing to spend 100s of thousands to “throw their weight around” they could just join said crazy person and benefit from their spending. You get gold chests, win kvks and don’t really gotta do much, win win for everyone but if you gotta throw your ego in there and think you can fight rich people over a p2w game then you’re in for a bad time 🥲. If someone at 500m power shows up in kvk1, just do what they want and have fun 🤣
@@Insideman666 little pee pee problems
And headless simps
Preach!
so true!
He was in kd 45 which is in kvk now and we were shocked at hell coz we were in kd47 but then he migrated thank god 😂
Hey chisgule I need your advice I am trying to become garrison caption so should I go full garrison tree and is Richard good for flag/fortress defense since he sucks at city defense
Don't be a garisson
Richard is a bad garrison commander. His active skill heals troops, which is equivalent to another player simply putting more troops in the garrison. He's good for field, but bad for garrison.
Better off staying as field or raily/garrison filler unless as they said unless you are a big spender.
Use Charles instead
If you spend a lot in game and sure be garrison, but dont use Richard, better be martel and ysg on early kvk 1 or 2
It doesn't matter who's right or wrong the kingdom is done, might as well get some gold chest to help your account grow 😉
Maybe that's why his alliance is growing since nephisto will take over.
the drama is perfect
FYI, Tribute and Answer are the same person and the same whale (200m kvk1 whales) back in 2129 (29TO) the kingdom where Legend Rhony migrated back to kvk2. A cocky and dictator King. Discord is also the same.
I just posted a comment about this too, my theory is maybe those players plus another all have access to the Nephisto account and play/spend on it
2329* and he led the kingdom to a unanimous victory. We pushed back all enemy kds out of LK and controlled almost the entire map except where our allies were. Sadly, he had to take a break from the game due to personal issues and a new king was chosen. Power was handed over peacefully. A pretty decent group of players including me decided to migrate out after that and since there would be a huge flood of massive whales coming into the kingdom. But was pretty shocked that 29TO made it pretty big in Ark too, so congrats to em
The Änswer from 1365?
@@rok5599 no. The answer is tribute. Started rok in 2329
@@Hugo-fu6gq yes but migrated to 1365?
Anyone have any tips on migration? I’ve just started back into the game and I can seem to migrate to any other kingdoms…
go to 2:16:33 on fleisch livestream, someone else logged into the account causing him to be logged out, then the phantom yt channel you linked is in the chat saying "sorry bro i accidentally logged in" lol he even tried to blur the screen when it happened, caught in 4k
Only way to be sure is if leadership make all their private, r4/council chats open so we see what was said in there before CW started. That’s the only details missing so we can be sure
I actually believe Nephisto. There have been so many stories about what happened and from the streams I watched. Nephisto story has always been the same.
I have a question Example you give money to someone and tell them to use it only for rok is that against the tos?
Been involved in a similar situation in 1448 we had 7of the strong alliances we migrated out nothing I could do we all got zeroed and had to leave we had 1 other t5 player but still was no use. We migrated to 1446 fought against him in kvk1 and lost. And 1447 1448 had beef it was crazy I don't know about now.
Why is Nephisto using Tributes name and then The Answers name? Tribute was a whale who went 309m power kvk 1 in 2329. Then he quit and gave his account to " The Answer" Also known as Marsh from 2329.
You play chess Chisgule? What's your rating?
All KDs should have their discord officer chat set to be viewable by all, and all non-kvk war related plans should happen there; It prevents stuff like this. It keeps the officers respectful of their players, and let's the players see the thought process behind decisions which feels a lot better than dictates from nowhere. Also allows players to weigh in with their individual officers if they don't understand or agree with something and could potentially add a different view point and prevent unexpected drama if the officer core is a bit of an echo chamber.
I think, (like most real conflict,) both sides have their validation for what they are doing. Neither of them is purely right, just seems like a string of half-communications and full-escalations.
Honestly, even if he was pressuring them for leadership with no real standing, the so called "organized leadership" of this kingdom doesn't seem to have taken any time to discuss his motivations or deescalate with him. Instead, they decided either to sell out their kingdom for personal gain or to use their position to scam someone with no thought of the consequences to their KD. Either way deeply irresponsible, and sad that so many ppl may have their in game experience wrecked by a few people who couldn't just talk through their issues like adults.
what is the shell?
On top of all if this! People accuse me of not liking lucky charms
What a crazy story 🤯
This story sounds like those ads that would constantly come up
What do u mean by shell idk much.
I think that Nephisto said he was coming to the kd to just chill so its not really right to come and then want to be king for any reason. He should be the one to leave the kd to somewhere he wants to lead and is wanted to do so there. I think this even if he is in the right for why he wants to take over just because the outcome of him trying to take over is exactly what is happening now.
The Tribute account is owned by Neph. Tribute will also play as Neph when Neph is not online.
I dunno man he’s getting a reputation. Didn’t he leave the kd he started with and burned a bunch of cities before leaving?
Wait, Nephisto has videos of him taking the Shrines in his kd, on his YoutTube channel PhanToM, so he can't have been "brought in" ?
🤔
he definitely was, he's not native in that KD.
The chances of a player who is basically hundreds of times stronger than anyone else, since power is exponential in this game not linear, is eventually big dog gonna wanna bark. 99.99% of the time that kind of player is going to eventually want control of the kingdom for themselves or those they trust the most and you either ride the wave of the hundreds of gold chests each person gets or not. This kingdom wouldn't be half as powerful without this one player sending literally tens of thousands of gold/silver etc. chests out to the kingdom. It is like making a deal with the devil, eventually the bill comes due and that deal is eventual loss of control.
To think I was there 1 year ago (back then I was called RogueHCG)... good old memories!
For either side this IS NOT how you bring change to a kingdom.
Livestream today?????
Chis why you zoom out at 1:51. There was a rally on a city😂
Nephisto burn 1 flag of WoE and said to Beldia he give 12 hours to decide to hand over the WoE but beldia refuse, then Nephisto burn another flag, so WoE members act and defense because if the two flag burn and destroy the WoE territory will be cut, then Beldia make a kingdom mail that Nephisto with SoE alliance betrayed the kingdom. That's how started a civil war on kd 2831
stupid woe！ people burnt more than 1M dollar for all bundle for you woe allien， what woe just givw all thw whale he want. that it.
Tldr ty
at around 7:59 when you talked about join and leaving some r4 came online and didn't like what soe was doing was they tried to kick all the members they got it down to like 30-40 members before r5 kicked him
LETS GOO!!!!!✌
All this is soo interesting 🤣
How do you have 7 marches
I mean...Fleisch openly said he was trying to get access to the Nephisto account. I don't think it's a secret.
Also, those that are constantly running from civil wars are a cause of those civil wars in many cases. I dealt with a similar group in game, but who knows what the story is here.
Yeah. Started a civil war in home kd then migrate to a kd in same continent so ez kvk1 for them😂
2831 sounds exciting.. I wanna go
@@p3rran kingdom sound similar to one we might have been in before?
Chis you know what happened to Rhony ??
Chisgule needs to be the mediator 😂.
My theory is "The Answer" is actually the real Nephisto. The Answer was a kraken in another kingdom 2329, he was in leadership and was one of the worst leaders ive ever seen + he had an bad attitude. He was clearly a guy who had money but did not know how to play the game or be a KIng in a popular kingdom. So my take is that The Answer is Nephisto and wanted to take over the kingdom but they wouldnt let him in leadership so he proceeded to do it by force, then when you exposed him on youtube he used another discord to say actually im the real nephisto then it takes the heat off of The Answer.
the answer is in 1365 now
@@gildedgorf right... but the guy who was talking to Chisgule under the discord name The Answer is actually The Answer. So we establish the guy who first spoke to Chisgule is "The Answer from 2329".
My description of The answer matches up with Chisgules description of Nephisto. I rich egotisitcal guy. Its him.
King 2681 take money Nephisto $5000
And he reasoned that he didn't receive the money and Nephisto got angry
I am the original leader of kd 2831 my in game name is beastray7 WOE were originally French migrants who came from another kingdom and yeah Nephisto came with them and they took over my leading alliance because they grew in power too fast and they already had a boost in power because they migrated from an earlier kingdom . we couldn’t control their movement anymore so I just decided to delete the game and get on with life. It’s sad that the kingdom turned out like this I always did everything in my power to avoid civil war but here they are destroying it for no particular reason at all
Nephisto came much later, there were a lot of migrants from different kds, and woe was built earlier then 2 gates were opened, so you are lie
Account sharing / account selling-buying is not against RoK TOS, unless they changed their policy recently. We asked their VIP support some time ago, and they confirmed that to us that it is not against TOS. Sad but thats it.
Explains why some kds have a highly insane active time when it’s supposed to be their downtime in kvk
@@Hugo-fu6gq yep
Just a theory, but some of the alias' used by players in this video are big whales, "tribute" "The Answer" are already 100M+ whales in ROK, my theory is they have a shared account that they all play and spend on, pretty good idea if one whale can afford a 100M account they each take turns spending etc and have a super whale account lol also on one of his videos on his youtube he's showing off his account but the person recording gets a text from "Nephisto" so I already presumed the account was shared
No account sharing KOA 👀
Man Nephisto is a good man👍
Chisgule is the new Gekko Gaming
The last community post of gekko was about a drama also. Hoping chis wont stop uploading after this😂
I think the problem is Nephisto’s friend is the problem. I think he has access to Nephisto’s account and discord. He is probably playing the ear worm instigator role between Nephisto and leadership for his own personal gain. Just my $.02
The Tribute account is owned by Nephisto. It was the Nephisto account that was at the ruins arguing with SOE and KOE and attacked all KOE account jumpers. It's Tribute talking in Discord there, so I guess he was in control of the Nephisto account at the time. What's funny is, a few days later, Neph said HE was FOR account jumping for honor for the kingdom.
I got a screen shot for fleish stream neph himself on the phantom account said his account is owned by 2 players
He said himself someone in the chat @him asking is the nephisto account yours he said “yes it is mine and federicos”
This is better than some Netflix tv series ahahah love drama 😅😅😅
Yeah, just watching Lincoln lawyer,and the drama with lawyer is not even close lmao
Wow thanks man thanks bro so interesting. Nephisto is definitely nit in the wrong in my opinion, should end in belida and Fe apologizing publicly. It was a misunderstanding however selling… wow…
In a massively pay to win game, how is it illegal to buy or share an account?
No game allows selling of account, its a simple rule, it destroys the game economy if buying or selling of game resources is done.
@@marcy1339 no game? Welcome to Rise of Kingdoms
The Answer is someone playing the account, nephisto is a different person "federico cardona", how i know this, basically Fleish Stream the answer talked all in chat, and federico cardona donated as nephisto, also in the groupchats screenshots there are 2 accounts, the answer and federico cardona, so this is just account sharing without caring!
In the beginning of the kd there was beast before belida came and we migrated her in
this Nephisto guy went from going to "Just chilling" to full scale war "i want leadership". but i tell you what.. i trust a geek with anime profile pic to handle leadership than a spender who thinks world is his platter and can have anything . 😂
one word. "Ego"
i mean, you cant just delete shells anymore so either this is all out of ignorance or just total BS. Remember, Nephisto also zeroed his original KD on his way out so i'm highly sceptical about believing anything he says.
True, however spiteful players can migrate out and leave one of their weak farms in charge of the best alliance in the kd. This happened in my kd. It took over 6 months to get our 2nd and 3rd best alliances to surpass the abandoned alliance's gift level.
it’s 4 am for me das crazy
They should have agree to make a new leadership based on voting right last time i play?..we always done that..i even got the position of the native but after..it all workout!
This is like the Johnny Depp vs Amber Heard drama of the ROK world.
In war it doesn’t matter who’s right. Only who wins
almost similar issue I had exp on 1412 with Ahmad Aziz.
during the opening of LT 412 got a civil war all alliances againsts Ahmad alliance however the ending is that Ahmad since he is a big whale that time destroyed all the alliances
One of the top Kingdoms. Was for the best leaving it to Ahmad.
Thats very different story tbh. As 1412 player i can tell u that much. Ex 1412 to be precise
been a while since k16 drama
The one who wins the gets to write the history. Then we know who is in the right.
Watching kingdoms tear themselves apart is what make rok fun lol.
Detective-gule on the move
For me the biggest issue is that a big Rok-UA-camr like Fleisch is trying to login into the account of this guy during a livestream, telling people that it isnt forbidden since "what do you think how all the koreans are staying online 24/7" (Fleisch livestream of 22th September).
And guess what .. you can bet money that neither Fleisch nor Nephisto will get any punischment for it. Lilith has proven that they are corrput and care about money more than about rules. It might not be a big deal for most people, espealliy since its some type of entertainment. But in my opinion unacceptable and should at least give both of them a temporarily ban.
For the situatuion in the kingdom itself: There are only losers in a sitatuion like that. But the current king should know that they will have a hard time recovering / a big emiragtion wave incoming.
That kd will wreck itself if they don't get him gone. He can just swarm everyone if he wants.
They are basically hiding on kvk territory right now, but after kvk they will be screwed
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Bruh Mephistopheles bro I’m free to play any tips
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Tribute if he’s who I think he is we fought him in our kvk1 he’s a kraken looks like he just keeps doing kvk1 accounts to beat up on everyone
Just for me leadership of this kd is so dumb i would love to have nephisto in my kd he helped all of them grown and he look like nice and kind person
Most whales don’t even think of hopping to multiple alliances just to max buy bundles and hand em free chests everyday. That’s 4 alliances too. Quite thoughtful of the players tbh. Since some would just spend in their alliance and not bother switching to give other players a fair chance. 2329 players were pretty sad when he had to quit due to personal issues and pretty glad about the news of his return.
I start this game in a civil war KD . I was don't know nothing about the game .. Its was like oh its fun . lol ... But when I start understand the game its was too late .. I lose too Mitch time and speedups for nothing really ..
From what i see the kd's leadership is to blame here they over reacted by trying to scam him this is my problem they tried to steal money from him I think if any of us was in this situation we would have gone complete rogue
Understandable
He also had the option to migrate instead of burning flags but didn’t. Big credit card doesn’t equate to a good king from my experience
lol they are in kvk 1 no one can migrate until the end of kvk
@@ardesia1974 Understood. He had the option to migrate when he could. Instead he chose drama. Nobody wants a twat like that in your kingdom. Only people that lose badly are the f2p or low spenders which is 95% of players. Hope they relax and move on but they probably won’t
He is almost got 1B kill in kvk 1🤑
We fought against 2539 in kvk1. Their leader, Tok1up had 3.3B kills in kvk1 hahaha
Young kingdom ppl still don't understand how this game works. Nephisto can destroy this kingdom alone unless they can find 3-5 ppl to unlock t5 and fight with Nephisto.
Lol , don’t be silly , he could swarm a 80m city until it’s zeroed , and train the troops back in minutes
Fight him with what? barca?minamoto?thutmose? you cant zero a 500m player with those commanders
Nobody unlocking T5 is gonna trouble this guy, he has so much spend power he would swarm cities and just retrain troops….
Trades would still be negative seeing his equipment and unlimited resources. No point