@@kiyoponnnApple already set the standards. We wouldnt have Snapdragon X if the Mac wasnt the sucess it is. Snap X is a definitely changing the industry but doubt Apple is concerned like the X is barely any faster than the base M4.
I'm so glad to see intel getting punched in the face. For years, they did not innovate and while performance did increase, it came at the cost of high thermals. Now Snapdragon is going to take the throne and they will struggle.
My last Dell had so many overheating issues it pushed me to buy apple silicon when it dropped.. Intel dropped the ball hard. Good to see they are coming back though with the new core Ultra series too. I’d go for these snapdragons probably though cause I’m poor and not in need of crazy power anymore.
@@ErrcycoI never in a million years saw myself getting a MacBook like ever. I am a windows guy I love x86 apps, but the M1 MacBook Air was and still is undeniably better than any windows thin and light laptop and I got mine for $500 used.
@@HaiBeast I had the M1 Mac Air and it was an amazing laptop. Unfortunately, I had too many programs that relied on X86 architecture. If we can get that level of performance at the form factor and quietness as Macbook Air, then we can talk about comparison. Until then, Apple is king.
Does it being originally a mobile device CPU and x86 mean that it won't be able to run some desktop programs? If there aren't any limitations or drawbacks to this new tech, I'm surprised it isn't as viral as COVID right now. Make them expand to the cheaper market and nobody's gonna be buying any shitty Intel or AMD computer from then on.
can't wait for these. I work in data science and have been using windows as my personal laptop for years but was ready to jump ship to mac until I heard about these up-and-coming ARM windows laptops. hope they don't disappoint!
Great reviews after Qualcomm flew everyone to Maui, Hawaii for a luxury, all-expense-paid "vacation". Qualcomm marketing guy must have worked in the auto industry.
Battery life matters a lot+ a fanless design. App compatibility will be fine overtime and it will have important apps for an average user at their lunch time. I waited to change my laptop to see how these laptops will perform. If they're good, I'll buy an OLED one.
Battery life will be amazing. I already preordered the Lenovo Slim 7x. I recommend looking at that one. It's a 14" OLED with a 90hz refresh rate and a 70Wh battery. You can also get it with 32GB of memory if you customize it on the Lenovo site. The upgrades for it are cheap too (memory and storage). After a student discount, and with a bag + bookbag, the total for me was $1200. For this level of technology, that's incredible value.
@@cynicist8114 yeah. I was thinking about a larger screen one, that's why I was looking at the Galaxy Book 4 Edge. But let's see what happens. I'm not a student so I can't get that discount. For sure, Lenovo is a fantastic device
how good are those computers from a software developer point of view ? I got bored with my macbook already (mac os actually) , but will like to have a linux compatible arm cpu
Hope that chipset can be put on tablet as well as on smartphones same as M series of apple that they can put thyre chipset on laptop and on thier tablets
Now the big thing is how well Windows on Arm can run software. Sure the basic stuff works but Microsoft really needs to triple down on helping developers have their apps natively work on Arm.
Really when it comes out. Please test the Battery life in normal "office/multimedia" tasks. I hope that it could be so good as my M2 13 Macbook pro. I hope that Games would also work without beeing connected to an poweroutlet . Like World of Warcraft, Genshin Impact, Counter strike 2, COD and so on.
These could be huge for AI folks because of their combined memory (like the newer Macs). Running an LLM on your own machine is usually limited by how much VRAM you have. If you get 32GB of ram on one of these machines, that means you can run an LLM with 30+ billion parameters.
I am anxious to see how it handles Davinci Resolve....I am thinking of picking up the M3Pro....but if this Snapdragon offers better performance I will go windows
Well, in the showed Baldurs Gate 3 even the basic Apple chip perform similar, and if the X Elite is a more expensive one compared to the X Plus, than that is not the basic M2/M3/M4 competitor (even based on core counts, they are more like the M2 Pro/M3 Pro/M4 Pro competitor, but that Apple chip also doubling the fps compared to the basic M series), so in shorts, the reason to not hear about a lot of the GPU, because it's not really good, just a bit better like the Android flagships already have)
@@TamasKiss-yk4st Not really a good comparison for a few reasons. 1. is baldurs gate has a native apple ARM port. So most games would NEVER come close to that. 2. the game still runs fairly poorly when compared to x86 GPUS like the 3080 and 4080 which are similarly priced, 3. The "basic" apple silicon chip really isn't a powerhouse, its okay, just very good at battery efficiency. For those of us needing an extremely high end GPU, you'd need the Pro chip line or Ultra line which has far more GPU cores. Comparing the X elite to that is a fairer comparison.
it doesn't matters how better the processor got we need proper support for windows on arm Microsoft needs to bring the hammer down for the stubborn third party devs
My questions are: how compatible is the new translation layer? Can it run Thunderbird, and a bunch of FOSS tools that have no arm version on PC, how big is the difference in the Snapdragon X Plus vs Elite? Does it scale linearly does 20% more cores equal 20% more performance?
These are just reference models there is no price. However Microsoft just announced the surface laptop and surface pro using these chips and they start at $999
Raw NPU performance is better compared to the M3 or below, M4 is closer. However MS has compared all benchmarks to the M3 Macbook Air which is passively cooled and did not mention any Pro, Max or Ultra performance. I guess MS strategy is to push ARM on the lower end portable devices where performance / watt matters and keep the highend market to the x86, since on desktop workstations power consumption is not the highest priority.
How is the performance for CAD applications such as Solidworks, Fusion 360, etc.? I mean I am not asking if we can edit workstation level assemblies but what about basic parts and assemblies with few parts?
Which are the AI Laptop Launching with Snapdragon X Elite Chipset? I heard Lenovo is releasing X Elite Chipset Laptops which can also be compatible with Windows 12 ?
Let’s stop avoiding the core issue and clarify what the main problem is. It’s not just about the hardware. The real issue lies in the software. We have the ability to create advanced chips, but there’s a notable absence of effort towards developing a better operating system. I’m genuinely tired of these videos and how they inaccurately portray the real situation
Every laptop performs good during the first few days, n as u load all applications ( least all office apps) or Visio, ms project , excel , n other crazy imp apps, then the performance goes very week , heated n many such things pop up, taking buyers into a frustrated zone on those laptops. Wish to see such testing performed..
I hope this becomes legendary moment, just like the launch of Ryzen. Don't let us down, Qualcomm.
yeah I hope they make apple, intel and amd redesign their chips
@@kiyoponnnApple already set the standards. We wouldnt have Snapdragon X if the Mac wasnt the sucess it is. Snap X is a definitely changing the industry but doubt Apple is concerned like the X is barely any faster than the base M4.
@@matheushenrique5963Will it blow all the other current chips out of the waters?
@@matheushenrique5963Also, fun fact, the new Snapdragon chips were DESIGNED BY EX-APPLE ENGINEERS lol
@@matheushenrique5963we would. Qualcomm started their research long before Apple Silicon
im excited for the linux capabilities.
Same. Qualcomms previous laptops have been horrendus in terms of linux support, so hopefully they step up and make it a first class option
Same
This time Qualcomm provided Linux support even before the soc's launch lol@@zoeyaaahmed203
i just opened the comment section to type this when he said:
"Future windows laptop users are going to be happy"
Put NixOS on that bad boy
I'm so glad to see intel getting punched in the face. For years, they did not innovate and while performance did increase, it came at the cost of high thermals. Now Snapdragon is going to take the throne and they will struggle.
My last Dell had so many overheating issues it pushed me to buy apple silicon when it dropped.. Intel dropped the ball hard.
Good to see they are coming back though with the new core Ultra series too. I’d go for these snapdragons probably though cause I’m poor and not in need of crazy power anymore.
@@ErrcycoI never in a million years saw myself getting a MacBook like ever. I am a windows guy I love x86 apps, but the M1 MacBook Air was and still is undeniably better than any windows thin and light laptop and I got mine for $500 used.
@@HaiBeast I had the M1 Mac Air and it was an amazing laptop. Unfortunately, I had too many programs that relied on X86 architecture. If we can get that level of performance at the form factor and quietness as Macbook Air, then we can talk about comparison. Until then, Apple is king.
You cant say the same thing about ryzen, amd is king
Does it being originally a mobile device CPU and x86 mean that it won't be able to run some desktop programs? If there aren't any limitations or drawbacks to this new tech, I'm surprised it isn't as viral as COVID right now. Make them expand to the cheaper market and nobody's gonna be buying any shitty Intel or AMD computer from then on.
can't wait for these. I work in data science and have been using windows as my personal laptop for years but was ready to jump ship to mac until I heard about these up-and-coming ARM windows laptops. hope they don't disappoint!
And the great thing about this is that this is only the first gen second gen third gen fourth gen are going to be so great
I think my biggest questions with these are the gaming performances and linux compatibility
Linux compatibility is a top priority for Qualcomm and they are making sure their chips will be fully supported!
@@HunzaTech That's great!! Thank you for letting me know!!
Great reviews after Qualcomm flew everyone to Maui, Hawaii for a luxury, all-expense-paid "vacation". Qualcomm marketing guy must have worked in the auto industry.
well said 🙏🏻
Yes because we know that apple has never done something similar before releasing their newest tech...
I've been waiting for the Surface Laptop 6 on ARM since 2019. Love my Surface Pro X.
How’s the battery life ?
@@ghitalahlou660 the new one will have 20 plus
Aye I'm a computer hardware engineer at Qualcomm in San diego, wish I got to work on this bad boy
We all want to see it against Lunar Lake, AMD Strix point and Arrow Lake.
Battery life matters a lot+ a fanless design. App compatibility will be fine overtime and it will have important apps for an average user at their lunch time. I waited to change my laptop to see how these laptops will perform. If they're good, I'll buy an OLED one.
The overhead to create Software for ARM is crazy if that was never taken into account.
Battery life will be amazing. I already preordered the Lenovo Slim 7x. I recommend looking at that one.
It's a 14" OLED with a 90hz refresh rate and a 70Wh battery. You can also get it with 32GB of memory if you customize it on the Lenovo site. The upgrades for it are cheap too (memory and storage). After a student discount, and with a bag + bookbag, the total for me was $1200. For this level of technology, that's incredible value.
@@cynicist8114 yeah. I was thinking about a larger screen one, that's why I was looking at the Galaxy Book 4 Edge. But let's see what happens. I'm not a student so I can't get that discount. For sure, Lenovo is a fantastic device
Waiting for this as it’s the only option in windows that will have good battery life
Windows and intell still cant get good with idle mode, when you only browse internet or watch youtube it should last for 16-20 hours easily
Please test eGPU functionality.
I hope Adobe will bring their Creative Cloud apps native to Windows ARM-based laptops.
I hope it can run games efficiently, without fussy heating
how good are those computers from a software developer point of view ? I got bored with my macbook already (mac os actually) , but will like to have a linux compatible arm cpu
I can't wait to run my Fedora on it
Hope that chipset can be put on tablet as well as on smartphones same as M series of apple that they can put thyre chipset on laptop and on thier tablets
Smartphone is a big ask but Qualcomm will use the core design in future mobile SoCs maybe from Snapdragon 8 gen 5.
Now the big thing is how well Windows on Arm can run software. Sure the basic stuff works but Microsoft really needs to triple down on helping developers have their apps natively work on Arm.
Problem right now is the price... Can't have efficient Ultra 9-185H performance at a massive premium like they had with the Samsung laptop there...
Really when it comes out. Please test the Battery life in normal "office/multimedia" tasks. I hope that it could be so good as my M2 13 Macbook pro. I hope that Games would also work without beeing connected to an poweroutlet . Like World of Warcraft, Genshin Impact, Counter strike 2, COD and so on.
that would be dream. the power cable curse is finally soon to be over.
Working.
@@Sheerwinter What is working? Are we knowing when these coming out?
But what about the price? will it be more expensive considering the performance?
Looking forward to this Qualcomm units.
This will be great for windows users, they will understand why Apple users like so much the ARM processors.
Snapdragon X Plus 🚀 🚀
I want a video test on screen not only benchmark graphics . And a live test please, thanks
These could be huge for AI folks because of their combined memory (like the newer Macs). Running an LLM on your own machine is usually limited by how much VRAM you have. If you get 32GB of ram on one of these machines, that means you can run an LLM with 30+ billion parameters.
I am anxious to see how it handles Davinci Resolve....I am thinking of picking up the M3Pro....but if this Snapdragon offers better performance I will go windows
Check their performance in other games too, please, and also check apps that were not remade for arm
That sounds interesting.
How would this affect dedicated gpus in laptops and desktops if this becomes mainstream?
20 hour battery life Windows here we go
Nobody has even mentioned the GPU in the device. Is it any good? How does it compare to Apple Silicon GPUs or NVIDIA/AMD DGPUs?
Well, in the showed Baldurs Gate 3 even the basic Apple chip perform similar, and if the X Elite is a more expensive one compared to the X Plus, than that is not the basic M2/M3/M4 competitor (even based on core counts, they are more like the M2 Pro/M3 Pro/M4 Pro competitor, but that Apple chip also doubling the fps compared to the basic M series), so in shorts, the reason to not hear about a lot of the GPU, because it's not really good, just a bit better like the Android flagships already have)
@@TamasKiss-yk4st Not really a good comparison for a few reasons. 1. is baldurs gate has a native apple ARM port. So most games would NEVER come close to that. 2. the game still runs fairly poorly when compared to x86 GPUS like the 3080 and 4080 which are similarly priced, 3. The "basic" apple silicon chip really isn't a powerhouse, its okay, just very good at battery efficiency. For those of us needing an extremely high end GPU, you'd need the Pro chip line or Ultra line which has far more GPU cores. Comparing the X elite to that is a fairer comparison.
They can't be fully happy as long as they still use windows 😂
Would love to see the performance with blender modeling and rendering?
Does blender work with ARM? my understanding is Blender wouldn't work with Surface Pro 11?
@@Barnsielegend on Mac Arm it does
Wanna see gaming performance
there is baldur's gate 3 in this short
At least 3-4 years u should wait , bcuz it takes time until the headache of compatibility apps is over , apple has no rival for 3-4 years
it doesn't matters how better the processor got we need proper support for windows on arm
Microsoft needs to bring the hammer down for the stubborn third party devs
My questions are: how compatible is the new translation layer? Can it run Thunderbird, and a bunch of FOSS tools that have no arm version on PC, how big is the difference in the Snapdragon X Plus vs Elite? Does it scale linearly does 20% more cores equal 20% more performance?
Difference between x elite and x plus
But what's the price?
These are just reference models there is no price. However Microsoft just announced the surface laptop and surface pro using these chips and they start at $999
I want to know in what aspects is Apple m3, m4, m3 pro, better or worse than the snapdragons. How is battery life doing vs the competion
Raw NPU performance is better compared to the M3 or below, M4 is closer. However MS has compared all benchmarks to the M3 Macbook Air which is passively cooled and did not mention any Pro, Max or Ultra performance. I guess MS strategy is to push ARM on the lower end portable devices where performance / watt matters and keep the highend market to the x86, since on desktop workstations power consumption is not the highest priority.
Insane ! That what I waiting for
Please try to install any arm linux distro on it!
Hope Windows OS don’t screw this one too.
Should I wait with buying a laptop then? What do you think the retail price of a laptop with a Snapdragon will be? Around 1200-1500?
Can you ask your Microsoft contacts why the heck I cant preorder a Platinum colored unit with 32GB Ram? Why force me to buybit in Black??
My question for the review will be, is it better than an Intel chip?
For battery power efficiency, yes. For app performance, that still needs to be seen with real world proper testing.
what about gpu power? also beating ultra 7 ?
When intel and amd for Android coming 🫠
samsung galaxy book 4 edge better or surface pro
My biggest question is if they can utilize any external GPU's or if their are external GPU's being made for these type of processors
When is 5G coming with this new snapdragon or intel ?
Soon they will mess with the performamce in newer models to make more profit
Don't they perform really bad when gaming?
Can we get this for desktop
Probably mini PCs.
Doesn't make any sense, if you want a desktop you are neither constrained by space nor efficiency.
More of that red though!!
Steam Deck on ARM incoming? Makes sense with less power consumption.
How is the performance for CAD applications such as Solidworks, Fusion 360, etc.? I mean I am not asking if we can edit workstation level assemblies but what about basic parts and assemblies with few parts?
What's the actual difference between the elite and the plus?
one for regular and elite for business
The difference between those chips are number of cores.
X Elite has 12 cores while X Plus has 10 core CPU.@presenceofeden2949
how does it do in development environments? like docker and stuffs?
Looking forward for desktop cpu of Snapdragon
Is is that good! If it is, it will be great!
I want to know battery life and whats the average wattage for normal tasks.
Baldur's gate? Or Baldur's gate 3? Because the two are very very different.
I want an expandable desktop PC based on the chip. I don't like notebooks!
Is it compatible with eGPU?
Which are the AI Laptop Launching with Snapdragon X Elite Chipset? I heard Lenovo is releasing X Elite Chipset Laptops which can also be compatible with Windows 12 ?
I cant wait until they put it in a samsung tablet.
Bruh why not just put numeric keyboard instead of kilometer gaps between keys and 20 light year bezels around the keyboard
What are cons
I reallllllly hope they ditch the AI keys. They’re so gaudy
Can the chips be paired with nvidia's GPUs????
Gpu?
Does the Arm based Snapdragon work Revit by Autodesk? Its the only reason I look away from Mac Books !!!
Are they on par with gpu accelerated laptops used for AI like RTX cards? Do add these questions
Nope
Pls do test cyberpunk 2077 at 1080p ultra settings
don't think it can run at uktra as there's no dedicated gpu
intel is clenching their buttcheeks as they watch this
Which laptop is this
Cost?
Let’s stop avoiding the core issue and clarify what the main problem is. It’s not just about the hardware. The real issue lies in the software. We have the ability to create advanced chips, but there’s a notable absence of effort towards developing a better operating system. I’m genuinely tired of these videos and how they inaccurately portray the real situation
i would like to about how much it can game ....
Shit i just got the mbp m3 and ready to make the jump to ios. Are you saying i need to return it?!
amazing
how it's possible running in windows operation systrm
thought you said fusia windows laptop users and got scared :/
Try to run crysis on max settings
Please do a video render test for us editors .
Can't wait to remove the spyware and install Linux on one of these laptops.
Commenting cause the audio is going but the vid froze
Still no proper linux support .... dead on arrival
Intel going down the drain lol
39% less power means... what? LOL!
Temperature test
Every laptop performs good during the first few days, n as u load all applications ( least all office apps) or Visio, ms project , excel , n other crazy imp apps, then the performance goes very week , heated n many such things pop up, taking buyers into a frustrated zone on those laptops. Wish to see such testing performed..
Yup! Even apple silicon takes a beating.
Marketing only considers browsing and video playback activities.
Can i play league of legends with that laptop?..
Windows laptop users will finally have an answer to the macbook? Yeah sure lol
wee need gpu not cpu tech
Reality : the next chips is always quicker
Dont need to rush AI theme pc unless you really need that asap . 😂