Patreon EXCLUSIVE | Blank Canvas (Part 2) feat. Akademiks & Ian | The Joe Budden Podcast
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2023
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In this Patreon exclusive episode, Akademiks, Ian, and the JBP pick back up their conversation on Rumble and the growth of companies entering a popular space. The gang then discusses the importance of being able to sit at certain tables in business, starting point vs. a blank canvas, Ak shares his thoughts on the BET awards + MORE!
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Ian is like the white Joe Budden. Loves to hear himself talk and in their own mind they are never wrong 😂
Bro is annoying af
That's why they get along so well. They're speaking to themselves.😂😂
Dude made good points tho, plus he has far more experience with the business than you or I, it’s good to get his points in on this, you just sound like a hater bro
Who isn't like that on the pod tho? Ish is hella prideful, Ice is usually loud and wrong, same with Flip.
Ian think he always the smartest in the room
I cant believe Joe and Ian argued against the importance of name recognition for a whole hour. This was wild
I don’t know why you surprised. Joe the same nigga who think him being a celebrity wasn’t the reason he was able to bag chicks when he was broke lol
For real! We literally have the current president because of this 😂
@@stk57thst I say this to mfs all the time lol
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Theyre too far gone 😂
Keep keep Ian away from the mic at all cost. Dude is a certified know it all
And wrong like 90% of the time, I can't believe the mix of confidence and stupidity. It's wild when you come across people that are wrong about damn near everything, you'd think worst case, you get like 40% of shit right, he's sounded retarded for 90 minutes straight haha
Yessss!! Keep him far away, we already have Joe occupying that space
Dude speaks like a typical privilaged white boy.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This niche of information is his DAILY business doings. If anyone knows this specific topic it’s him.
Ish killed this whole episode. Joe can never admit when he is wrong and it is infuriating. Lol.
Ish packed Joe tf up the whole episode. He didn’t move the goal post not one time as for Joe well let’s just say he had a hard time admitting he was wrong 😂😂😂😂😂
Yep. Ish won the debate in Part 1 tbh.
Bruh, Joe is never wrong
Yeah Ish was really owning this episode I kept saying that after each thing he said
Bro fr☠️
Ian acts like he knows everything. He was wrong a couple of times and refused to even listen. He listens like Joe does, which is NEVER!! Lmao!! Love it!
Yup. And, no, don't love it
naw dont love it Ian is annoying af
Facts! I can do without him on camera
We may not like his opinion but we can’t ignore what he’s saying since he is the one having these conversations with the companies..
Ian being Joe’s manager def made sense after this convo 🤣
I see why Joe & Ian get along together 😂😂😂
Because they are the same and think the same very narcissistic
@thehustlersportspodcast4047 Oh you must've just learned that word. One of the most overly used word when describing Joe, and most people use that word incorrectly and don'tunderstand the meaning of the word narcissistic.
They really are the same people 💀😂😂😂
@@juombe The irony is palpable. You would say he is not?
They share in the same delusion.
ISH IS THE JBP MVP!!!!
Bro always giving “muffins” with facts and reality
Hearing them trying to explain common sense stuff to Joe is hilarious. I started listening to the Pod because of his name and I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one
Everyone did! Only Joe doesn’t acknowledge this fact
@@DonteDashSmitheveryone did not and that’s the point
@@bluecheckmiyawell yes. There are no absolutes. Except death. Joe name recognition means something and he’s acting like it’s not.
I did too
This level of stubbornness from Joe and Ian is hilarious!
explains why they don’t close on any big deals , talk the way out the pussy ! 😂 7:11
“you’re wrong👇🏻” (Ian voice)
Low key don’t think joe was as bad this debate as he was when they was having the contract debate but Ian stuck wit his ego n pride, listening to comprehend is key not listening to respond
💯
Beyond….the funniest part is the fit the old business tropes and are proud of it.
Ish totally was correct though on the "starting point" conversation. And Parks summarized it well by saying "we often don't realize our own privileges".
Snapple effin facts
"Privilege is invisible for those who have it"
It’s so crazy that Ian and Joe stayed on that point. There’s no way they believe that. That’s absurd.
Stg
@@chrisjacoubYup and we’re seeing it in real time
Anybody speaks:
Ian: “You’re wrong”
Me: “I really enjoyed my meal.”
Ian: “YOU’RE WRONG…YOU’RE WRONG.”
Ian & Joe are wilding. Joe absolutely had a better launch pad. He just happens to be a star wherever he goes where another artist would not achieve the same success as him. That's it.
Me just admiring his raps made me check out whatever else he had to say. I stayed because I liked what and how he said it. Not everyone has THAT talent no matter how much they've thrived in another field.
That’s fact. Once you have a loyal following they will follow you to everything all you have to do at that point is deliver
They were sounding completely remedial.
Ian just wanted to disagree with Ish the whole time .. bro you wrong . That’s facts
Joe just speaking from a place of privilege and doesn't realize it. There's a very obvious reason he said I'm calling this pod 'The Joe Budden Podcast' because his name holds weight regardless of the dirt on his name or whatever people know his name, AK said there's nothing harder than getting people to listen to you and Joe Budden came in to the game with people listening to him weather it be a lot or a few he came in to podding with people wanting to hear what he said.
Man whaat! Ian n Joe. Most definitely buggin!
Joe and Ian pretending Joe didn’t have a head start compared to any random person is delusional
If anything it was a disadvantage and that shit aint work for TIP so i dont think its a "Fame" thing
@@OCmenacemafiabut who would you like to hear speak more joe or tip..joe def has a better advantage in that perspective
@OCmenacemafia working better for TIP than my own podcast I started with zero audience or fans lol
@@OCmenacemafiacomparing Joe's podcasting to tip as comedian is a bad example because Joe was willing to adjust on the fly , tip wasn't and isn't that funny
Ian and Joe are really made for each other, if I see two podcast one with joe vs the other person I've never heard of I'm clicking on joe . How tf can you ever argue that
That’s true of course, most of the time, but the no name podder, may know that too, and decide to research and use an intriguing enough subject/title to at least garner being added to the queue or something. You might not listen to them first but after that Joe clip is empty you’re going to get around to the seeing what the other pod is talking about
@@jamesmcclaren9759 but that's proving the whole point. Which is why they are not starting from the same point. Joe and Ian just wanted to argue. It wasn't about which person is better it's about the draw so even if those rap fans don't stay which of course they all won't so yes you have to build a new audience but it wouldn't be as if me or you was starting from scratch tryna scrap up 100 subs. I do think Joe wishes he had a clean slate but that's all because of things he did that negatively affected his image
That may be true now but it wasn't always the Case Name recognition also has a negative effect also
Nobody wanted to hear three minutes of Joe Budden, how do you expect someone to give him an hour pause?
@@ABAYBAZ 😂😂😂😂 that's mad different though. So joe quit rapping right and goes to podcasting people who listen to him rap and didn't listen will have a inclination to see wtf he talking about especially knowing he can go on a rant at any moment
This is probably the best conversationI've heard in a long time! i love these break downs. I don't even comment in youtube videos but this is great!
Ian and Joe are totally missing the fact there’s a million failed Timmy Green podcasts - the long tail. The hit rate as a celebrity with a ready made audience is going to be much higher. You can’t point to the handful of Timmy’s who make it as equitable to Joes start.
They only care about Joe's experience was difficult and refuse to acknowledge how much harder it would have been without his previous fame. He probably wouldve been even better off if he didn't create so many enemies, but that's evidence of why you don't want to be a dick, not why you don't want to be famous before starting a venture.
@@michaelturley8222this! Man Ian is the example of you can know so much yet know nothing . He can’t listen
My mom came in and heard me watching this pod not knowing what it is at all and when I told her “it’s joe budden’s podcast” that immediately peaked her interest. She didn’t even recognize his face, she just remembered his name. Whether this pod was good, bad, popular, or unpopular, that type of interaction doesn’t change. That right there just proves Joe’s “starting point” take to be completely wrong. That name recognition, no matter how long it takes, changes the trajectory of your content.
But if he was jackie moon he could've had the potential to peak your mom dad aunt uncle sis and brother with whatever voice he wanted hypothetically speaking
Your mom would've never heard of the podcast if she didn't hear you watching it. And the likelihood of her watching again without you is extremely low. What do you say to that?
Flip deserves more credit. He made me think Ian was faaaar more entertaining and digestible. Also hearing Ian and Joe argue against previous points are crazy lol. Also also, debating, conversation and arguing just to get your point across are different and all three are happening here depending on the person.
Ian the whole episode: You're wrong, you are wrong!!" no one is THAT wrong😂
I get why IAN and Joe in business cause they swear they know everything and aren’t wrong about anything lol
I swear you people, act as if you knew these people.
@@juombebruh we watch multiple hours of these people a week. We're not making far fetched observations.
@@dkmrap1you’re not but it does lack nuance. It’s not that the takeaway is wrong but it’s too black and white
I’m glad Ish made that full circle moment with the sharing of info cause boy I was screaming for someone to shine the light on that dude.
Damn, Joe came off like a spoiled kid in that argument 😂. Bro your name as Joe Budden definitely helped push this shit out.
Mans podcast is "The Joe Budden Podcast" lol
Thank you this is actually a stupid argument if you ask me . Ian and Joe look like complete idiots here .
@@Derrickneal1352 to be fair he named the podcast later but I was definitely watching it out of curiosity because it was Joe
T.I tried stand up. Didn’t work, just cause you gotta name elsewhere don’t mean you gone succeed lol
@@AliFrankTheTank trying to use the same thing they did is comedy lol they already said what I could and will say ....
The fact that ice had a podcast prior to being on this one proves that name and recognition plays a major part not just talent.
Exactly this
What was the name of ICE podcast?
@@MosMoney187 never really got off the ground.. he said it’s too much work in a previous episode
Ice had a podcast?? What he talk bout??
This was one of the most productive conversation I've ever heard. We won't always agree. But everyone got to speak their peice.
I want to feel like that but in the end it was all Ian and Joe thinking they’re the only ones who know anything being said
Joe can only appreciate the blank canvas because he didn’t experience it. When you haven’t had to do it its easy to look from the other side and say “That looks great”
before his rap career his canvas was blank. we all experience the blank canvas at some point.
@@bigbadtrapalot. we not talking about his rap career we talking about podcasting in which he didnt start with a blank canvas
Are you saying he didn't start from a blank canvas, because combat Jack and tax tone started their podcast first. I would argue against that Just like he had to start with a blank canvas as all rappers do in their rap career You have to start your podcast from an equally blank canvas. I would also argue the reason his show has lasted as long as it has.
@@bigbadtrapalot. Bro the name of his podcast is literally “Joe Budden Podcast” and when it wasn’t named that people still searched for it by looking up “Joe Budden’s Podcast”.
Before (and during) his rap career he always had moments of controversy and even hosted a radio show on Hot 97. People were always wanting to hear his takes on Hip-Hop whether it was an interview, vlog or just a comment.
Joe definitely had a rebrand, but a blank canvas? Hell no
@@QuietStorm93He did start with a blank canvas because the term podcasting was new.
If you're into business and wanted gems this was the episode‼️‼️‼️ great conversation guys
you can just tell that Ian is super proud of what he has helped build with JBP...LOL gotta love it
Ian and Joe crazy as hell with the starting point conversation, king semantics lol
That part one cliff hanger had me and my girl on the edge of our seats lmao
Same here 😂😂😂
ian moved flip out his seat fse
Lmao That first episode ended while I was switching over my laundry and I was like WAIT, WHAT?! HOLD ON! Cuz a whole nother video started playing. 😂😂😂
Ian came like he was dropping fire , proceeded to get SCHOOLED by AK for 2 hours 😂
Y’all the GOATS for this pt 2 🙌🏽🐐
F. A. C. T. S.
Faxxx
They literally split the episodes instead of posting it as one video. Don’t glizzy glaze
Nbs cause I’m never paying for patron 😂
@@nastusalmanderThts hate 😂
Ian and Joe literally hear one thing and instantly have to rebuttal. Shit weird, yet funny
This‼️🤦🏽♂️
That’s all Joe do in any debate and will be wrong for 37 minutes lol
Ian has the same mindset as Joe that’s wilddddd .. They prolli agree on everything 😂😂
I do wish episodes like this had more structure. Had they not cut Ak off for the first 20 minutes and let him explain the $100million kick deal properly could have been a conduit to an even better episode.
FACTS. Why even have AK on for an episode and have all these side conversations while he's tryna make a point smh
I think one of the most interesting aspects of broadcasting/podcasting/media these days is the willingness of the ones behind the mic to discuss the business behind it. That was unheard of several years ago. Good convo here. 🔥
Agree. But until recently it was basically entirely employees taking a cheque. Now these dudes run their own businesses so are in a position to talk about it.
This one of the MOST IMPORTANT podcast episodes of my life! Thank you!
Ian and Joe were made for each other
Joe and Ian are speaking from a place of privilege
Facts
they always do .. show keeps becoming harder to listen to
But they gained that privilege from nothing is joes whole point. They were both correct in this argument.
@@kyonsenzu8799you know ball
Also, another clear thing from this discussion is Akademiks STILL does not know how valuable he is. He is not only the voice for many in the culture, most of us get our 'news' from his streams. He is one of one. .He knows that, but he REALLY doesn't know fully.
That’s exactly what i took from this, every time he comes on this podcast joe has to remind him of his value really.
Ak only knows how to talk his shit to people below him. Such as random UA-camrs dissing him and Adam 22
Ish is more right than he’s ever been. Name recognition gives you a much stronger start than being a nobody
Ian gave out some game and it went over a lot of people’s heads. Especially when he talked about equity and allowing corporations to determine your value. They’ve got us undercutting each other chasing the bag and we’re leveraging our power to do it. There’s power in unity and collective bargaining or at least having a uniform minimum standard.
Yea but him being dismissive and disingenuous on topics especially the starting point topic telling them they’re wrong and he’s right doesnt help people understand the bigger picture. It’s understandable why him and joe get along so well they’re both the same. When they get a good counter argument they double down and start arguing just to argue
Not really. Equity is not all its cracked up to be. 50 percent of that is luck. It's a gamble.
Ian is the most disingenuous arguer. Just says whatever he feels will win him the argument. Lol
He seems pretty consistent in his points to me
He switched his point two times in a row when he realized they meant something else. He can’t even acquiesce. Seems like he has a superiority complex
I agree, dude just argues to flex whatever knowledge he has. Ruined the conversation imo.
@Steven-sd2zi he is consistent in that he will never give you credit for a point. Just repeat thr same stance regardless of the point of the convo.
@charlesjackson2465 He switched his point because he didn't understand the question but once he did he stayed consistent. I dont understand what people are complaining about
Ian not letting the guys get a statement in is crazy 😂 stay behind the scenes lol jk
No but for real lol buddy got on the mic like some business guru. He has one notable client in Joe smh.
@@SlMBA.DJ Premier
@jozeffpierre1717 I was aware of that which is why I said notable. Respect to the god but what relevance have you seen DJ Premier hold in the last decade outside of DJing a BET freestyle cypher?
yeah wont let them get a statement and most of what he says is so incorrect you wouldnt believe
Everybody got they shit off tho
I see why Rory and Mal didn’t trust Ian specially in combination with Joe😂People who think they smarter than the rest of the room usually try to take advantage and camouflage it with tactics the public will perceive as justifiable
This convo applies to the real world and I’m with joe and Ian!! It’s a must watch!!
Part 2 LFG! 👏🏾 that cliff hanger on part one was wild. Great poddin 🔥
All this talk about equity reminding me of that Rory & Mal dispute 😂
Bare and Minimum at best 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@nzuix hahahaha, those names were hilarious. However those are the guys he ran with an built this pod up with. Just weird hearing Ian talk about how people should be bringing up the equity convo, knowin what we know on how that previous situ worked out.
@@slumpage23They all agreed not everyone’s going to get or deserves a yes though.
@@DezmondBroadway yh, thing is from the other 2's point of view, they were led to believe they had equity, when actually they were just getting a cheque. Ian had to have been involved in that no?
They left us on a cliffhanger at the end of the last video with Ian jumping on the mic like he’s about to say shit.
But he came on so smug and patronising, while stating the obvious 😂
Bruh. I thought i was gonna hear something new, he had good points but he wasn’t a game changer in the convo, just another good player
Parks with the “Shout to Tim Green” is hilarious.
Now this is poding! More of these conversations please 🙏
Ish cracked muffins entire time. Joe and Ian y’all are fuckin nuts
THE WAY ISH LOOKED AT IAN LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO 17:51
Ian and Joe are the same person, always right
Both goofies too
Agreed
Very enlightening discussion, I need a part 3
We love the Joe Budden Network ❤
Thank You JBP for the Business Lessons in these Two Pods(P1+P2)....IAN + ISH + JOE + ICE should be its own BIZ Channel on the JBN....If Y'all Listening Game is Being Given for Free99....👑💰🙋🏾🔥😎🌏
Joe left us on a cliff hanger and dropped more heat on vacay. 🔥🔥
This is a master class!! I appreciate this one!!
Great conversation! Loved this episode
Ish lost his mind on this one hahahahahha
I thought we had to wait for Thursday for part 2 😂
God bless you all
This convo can be applied to the real world no just podcasting and I hope more people hear and understand this !
Joe and Ian are so fueled by their experiences they can’t make sense of other ones or something. I also think the messenger is an enormous factor, they not hearing this from Ice and Parks but Elon or Jay could say it
Ak on the JBP with Ian. This really is a legendary podcast
this whole episode is legendary.
Props to ish, ice and AK, they pushed back with common sense...
Save yourself the listen.
Ish/Ak: Valid point
Ian: No you’re wrong
Joe: *agrees with Ian*
Thank you for putting out part 2! Appreciate you JBP
Cooking breakfast and listening to the JBP in the background. Great morning.
I really enjoyed this episode. Ak should come more often.
Can I watch this all day. Great content guys 🎉
Dropping the Pt 2 on a Monday that’s love 🫶🏾
Fax 😂
Part 2 let’s gooo!! We eating while the JBP on holiday
Joe yelling in the back mad funny 😂
new drinking game take a shot everytime ian says "you're wrong" or talks about a "play"
Ish is the only real business man in this conversation.
I had a feeling there was gonna be a sneaky part 2 drop. This is awesome .
Thanks a lot JBP
Joe don't want to admit he had a nice headstart 😂
Ian and Joe were so delusional this episode 😂😂
Was waiting for this I’m renewing today I swear
Ish is 100% right about the start points
It looks like ak has a matrix cable connected to the back of his head 😂
Ish cracked Ian ass 😂😂😂
One of my favorite pod. Dropping gems!!
Joe and Ian are living in a dream world they make up as they go they no different then the
Great conversation!!
The more i watch this i need Joe an Ish to throw the Gloves on 😂😂
Damn how that convo go over everybody but Joe and Ian’s head? That’s insane
Has Ian or Joe ever heard someone else’s point and said “good point, you’re right”
Did you watch pt 1? Also, there has been many occasions where he has said someone was right and he was wrong.
@@juombe he’ll say it but won’t shut up after saying it, he’ll sneak his point back in lmao. There’s a difference
Joe & Ian buggin 😂😂
I can see exactly why Ian is Joe manager 😂 he comes off as a yes man. He agree with everything.
Making my brain work.. thank yall 💯
Joe making all the other podcasts look like rookies. Keep ‘‘em Coming. got 2 pods today one on patroon and one on youtube.
Great conversation 👏🏾
Ian & Joe were bugging with all due respect lol
Ian… no more camera time for you… Another episode where Ish is not understood and I don’t know how they keep missing it!
100% and its all hot air what hes saying and none of it is factual, all opinionated statements which is in bias. He doesn't have a clue about any of the streaming space, i doubt hes even watched a stream prior 2023 lol
@@Diontb the fact he couldn’t stop saying “you’re wrong” was pissing me off more 😂. Find another way to convey why you believe them to be wrong dude was pompous as hell.
@@RealSonScotty serious
I’m glad joe anit drag this second part out and dropped it the day after we appreciate that JBP
AK IS THE KING
Perfect timing lol
I swear yall drop right on time🎉🎉😂
Whaaattt?!? Back to back days! That’s dope good looking out JBP