DCFS needs to be audited. The Board of Supervisors needs to answer our questions as to HOW THIS KEEPS HAPPENING!!! Gabriel Fernandez, Anthony Avalos, Classic and Cincere didn't need to be murdered!! I'm sickened by the lack of accountability by DCFS in California
Actually it begins with parents. Parents have become detached to parenting or vanished completely. Our Legal system needs to be evaluated and revised. Why are we advocating LGBTQ rights and not child welfare care. I still believe mother's should be forced to complete parenting classes, home skills classes, sex education for prevention, family planning, and counseling the minute they find out they are going to be mother's.
OMG, I can’t believe the bullsh*t this defense attorney is presenting!! The Wests were living off the adopted children. In California an adoptive parents get $1,000 per child! That’s $48,000 per year! The West husband wanted to be a rapper which is laughable!! And the wife didn’t work either! They have 6 children and neither work! They moved because they though no one would miss those precious little boys!! Infuriating!!
@@myheart4jesusAdvocating for LGBTQ rights is advocating for child welfare. There are children who are LGBTQ. Do those children not matter? At any given time there is multiple shitty things happening. We as a society can talk about multiple issues without dismissing the suffering of other groups.
Seriously! Blame a 10 yr old for what their parents did. That doesn't sound right. I seriously have to wonder about lawyers that defend people accused of murdering children.
She's not blaming the 10 yr old, she's explaining how those that came into contact with this child, questions asked, his own access to online reports can directly affect the memory and questions can lead to what the interviewers want to hear vs the truth.
I felt that way about criminal defense lawyers for a long time too but have gained a new perspective over the last few years. Public defenders don't choose their clients, they're assigned. Their role is to ensure their client is given a fair trial and that their constitutional rights are upheld. They have to work with their client to identify what the appropriate legal defense is (if any) and challenge the prosecution's case since they have the burden of proof to find the accused guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
@@JD-WLKY If you heard the prosecutor's cross examination of Dr N on the stand today ,I would say TW & CW are toast and to think their defense is having the state pay her $35 K +.....is disgusting for taxpayers....They will be convicted!!
I stick by what I said when this first happened ... the boys never got to the new house. There were no gifts for them being wrapped. Those maniacs "offed" the boys way before the new house, threw them in the trash. They'll never be found but they won't be forgotten by thousands. I hope they pay for what they did to those sweet babies.
Right. So F-ing wrong!!! This is in CA. and I hope the department of corrections does the right thing and feeds these two to GP to be given real justice and what they deserve..
Is this the case where they supposedly said the two little ones went missing? Maybe a year or two ago? I remember reading about it but never heard anything after that
Sooooo the 10yr old is lying ? This is alll i hear her trying to say. Soooo they planted alllll that information into the kids heads? This is BS... The ONLY thing i see here are two people that were good at getting rid of human remains, PERIODT! #GUILTY
Did you hear the part about her expert on the videos where the kids weren't seen leaving the house that day......how she said ethnicity can play a role in wether or not they would be seen? Aka she said you wouldn't have seen the kids cause they were black! 😮
Imagine not guilty on all counts and this inhumane couple regaining custody of their 2 biological and 2 adopted sons...This would be a travesty of injustice!! I pray that the jurors make the right decision. Classic and Cincere needs justice ⚖ and so do the 4 remaining children.
I can see them being found not guilty due to reasonable doubt because there isn't enough evidence. I don't see them getting their other children back ever because there has been too much said about their crappy discipline practices. Also the remaining kids will be in danger after they have spoken up.
she doesn't sound confident. I'm not knocking the lady, she has probably studied her ass off to get where she is. But this sounds like her 1st time speaking with a jury. Either that or she feels the people are guilty, which is making it hard to sound convincing??
This is crazy. There are no baby steps leaving that back yard, cameras didn't pick anything up. And the 10 year old is saying what he saw . PUT THE MONSTER IN JAIL FOR LIFE THIS IS HAPPENING WAY TO MUCH.
We all saw the video. Those boys were never in that backyard, and they never "looked" for them beyond twenty minutes. We knew those babies never made it to the new house.
Six minutes. Trezell drove around the block for only six minutes. Then he stood by a tree for another 13 minutes waiting for the police. She never left the house.
Can we not pay people to adopt children and also not allow people who don't work to adopt children. The state shouldn't be in the business of selling children to people. I understand giving money to foster parents, because the goal is reunification with family. But to pay strangers to adopt? If they don't have the financial means to take on a full life commitment to a child, they have no business adopting in the first place
All moot. Throwing a 10 year old under the bus is criminal. Where on the internet did Adrien see that Orrin had white expectorant coming out of his nose and mouth???? This lawyer is horrible.
that's such a specific detail a child wouldn't make up. he must've felt conflicted talking about it knowing his parents would be taken away. truly horrific
Missing babies are responsibility of both parents. Direct supervision is responsibility of both parents. Proper shelter, appropriate nutrition, adequately clothed and education are responsibility of both parents. Adoption of babies to be ignored, unloved and cared for is not responsibility of both parents. Female attorney appears and sounds extremely aggressive and disrespectful while speaking to the jury. Not a good approach 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
I was thinking the same abt this attorney! I've heard some great lawyers that sound like they are giving a sermon or testimony in church that gave me goosebumps! This aint it! She sounds angry! Idk if there is any co-counsel that cld have given this statement but she is NOT a good speaker...period! She MAY be a great lawyer...idk. But I noticed when she started that her voice was shaky and her nerves were evident. I cld give a pass for that. But, I cant give her a pass for all the stumbling over and even mispronunciation or made up words! I felt sorry for the court reporter! If she was my defense attorney...I wld cringe so hard...and be scared AF! LOL!
There is so much more to this case than the boy's words, right? You cant address the rest of it, so you throw the poor boy under the bus. #JusticeForClassicAndSincere
The prosecutor delivered a great opening statement!! Her testimony that she “keeps them separate” is all I needed to freaking hear! They are evil. They didn’t want to give up the income of having those two babies, but couldn’t handle them. This is terrible. I hope the biological mom she’s Bakersfield CPS.
I have no idea what this attorney is even talking about! Is she trying to say the 10 year old had an iPad and looked up news articles about the case to create his story? Not a great theory… try again lady!
If i was a juror I'd find em guilty even with reasonable doubt just on the abuse allegations by the kids. F them. The abuse is true no doubt. CONVICT EM!
Thats exactly what I picked up from her body language. She was nervous and was having trouble with coordinating her presentation, the judge even noticed that and was trying to look like he wanted to believe what she was saying and moved around to compose himself through her statement.
And how would a child have such a wild imagination to make up the fact he saw the boys throwing up, heard a thud, and recalled the conversation abt the parents telling him to keep secret so HE doesn’t get taken away from them. That’s far too detailed for a child to come up with, let alone recall on several occasions. This lawyer is pathetic
you know wats sad though? Even though the parent does not deserve to see their child, the child's needs trump that. They will say it's not the right of the parent it's the right of the child. always something right?
So if the parents are not charged with anything and they dont go to prison foes this mean the children that are their own and the 2 adopted children will go back to these parents ?? Without proof that they didnt kill the boys? I think the 10 year knows what happened thats why jackie told him you dont have to talk if you dont want to
So they are basically saying that their 10 year old son is telling lies. There is no proof of life of those children from before they moved. If these two get off and regain custody of those children it will be a travesty in my opinion.
This is why I could never be a criminal defense attorney. Many times they know their clients are guilty and still lie to free them for the most heinous crimes. Crimes against children. Additionally, Pedos, rapists, and brutal murders!
Even if they told her exactly what they did with the kids, she would never tell and would lie through her teeth. Her job is to get them an acquittal, nothing more and nothing less. Doesn't mean it's a commendable or moral thing to do, it's just how our justice system was designed. Every defendant is owed a proper defense. Otherwise they can appeal on the grounds of ineffective counsel. Which we don't need. So let her ramble her nonsense. There may not be hard physical evidence but the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming!
Some more far reaching crap from this defense attorney! I hope they both spend the remainder of their lives in prison. CA DCS should be held accountable for permitting these 2 do adopt any children, they could not even take care of themselves much less children!!!
Female attorney is w/out comparison the absolute most disrespectful public speaker to include severely lacks acceptable social skills imaginable. FYI: Upon evaluation of entire presented evidence both adopted parents are responsable for direct supervision of the babies (for which they were totally dependent upon). 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
I know her job is to defend, but she is doing it so wrong! I refuse to give details on what she SHOULD be doing, but this isn't it. She's flat out awful. The truth is speaking for itself at this point and we all know (herself included) how this trial is going to end. I'd be FLOORED if they won and are free of all charges.
Hey parents why are you allowing your kids to go threw this. TELL THE F'IN TRUTH AND SAVED THE TAXPAYERS money and tell the truth so your kids don't have to do for you! And how in the hell do these attorneys that are representing people like this?
This attorney cant even coordinate the colors of red between her jacket and her skirt So how the Hell can she put together a believable defense for 2 guilty child murderers ? If I were Trizzell and Jacqueline i would be petrified. I Hope Sincere and Classic get the Justice they so Rightfully Deserve ! Death Penalty for BOTH or LIFE Without Parole !
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Sorry, I shouldn't laugh,but her outfit is awful...lol😂. Yup, in full agreement, they can not get away with this,but its possible they could walk away from.this. I do think they managed to work on the kids somehow, and hence, they changed their statements. This will be a travesty if they do not find them.guilty. Unfortunately we know they are,but they covered there tracks well. With no bodies and dna we are holding for hope!!
Once again I can’t understand how defense attorneys can defend people like this! Now…with that said, I understand that it is everyone’s right to a defense and fair trial so don’t reply to my opinion about defense attorneys. I would be the first in line for a defense and fair trial. There are wrongly accused innocent people and they really deserve the best defense, but in this case…omg.
Esp the dad who flinches and raises brows every time a lie is told … the defense said Jw was wrapping presents while he got wood and his eyes flinched … lol She looks pleasant and unbothered. Seems she’s the leader of the abuse ans he’s just her pawn helping back her and cover up.
If you notice when she says there 2 Boy's to each person Jacqueline moves her Head and starts to blink like it made her nervous and Trazell stated blinking too and moves alittle
Wow. Now it's the kids and CPS fault and they are all lying and you expect that to be a suitable defense? Yikes. This is worse than letecia stauch defense and we see where that went
The only thing that defense has to do here is cast reasonable doubt. With 2 defendants and two attorneys representing they get twice the impact. They will cast blame everywhere but their clients, even on the 10yo son who had no reason to lie (unlike the adults here). Really hoping that prosecution has a strong timeline and case to present.
I believe something did happen to those boys. Orrin probably died in Bakersfield but Orson. I'm not sure what happened to him. It's hard to say with no physical evidence
@@mwoods4608 the only evidence the state has been able to present was the child’s 5 or so interviews where the 1st & 2nd primed, brow beating, illegally conducting the interviews from the beginning & why the process was absolutely changed. The state is using his testimony for the entire trial on their guilt.
How dare those parents killed adopted kids those kids has a like a brain a heart they want to grow with good people and live life not to be hurt and killed just because the parents didn't like what they're doing or how they act they're very lovable God wish love those kids spoil those kids may God be with them
Is the bottom line CHEW WITH YOUR MOUTH CLOSED or else Jackie will put you in a choke hold with her legs around you like any octopus? I believe the kids! They have no reason to lie! No motive to lie and most likely were abused by these two creeps Starling needs to fly away like the bird 🦅 she’s named. 🥹
In her brand new house that their adopted children bought. This case has bothered me so much. I do feel something evil going on, I don’t understand how they were able to adopt so quickly, why biological family members weren’t given opportunity to adopt, I personally would like to see the social workers field notes on home visits.
This is the first trail in which’s both defense attorneys have some type of similarity to their clients… I thought she was representing herself … she’s her twin !! And Mr West attorney has a Hood aspect to him ! Not convincing at one moment! Justice ❤❤❤
Her husband was out gathering wood like she's trying to make the cover a better homes and garden. Just sitting here with the opening from the defense. I'm already against the defense. And she seems young & inexperienced in a desperate attempt to use unfamiliar vernacular to try to change the narrative. Good luck!
Their BS story doesn't hang together. All parents know we wrap the kids presents late at night when they are asleep. Not some inside keeping warm by the fire while the two youngest are outside in the cold playing with chalk.
Add to that the youngest had car seats in the back?? Ummm parents know we put the car seats closer to from so we can reach in and buckle them easy and the big kids like to ride in the back
This opening is a mess. I cannot imagine how nerve wracking it must be to present a case in front of a jury and especially a high-profile case involving children but, to my mind and, without touching her arguement, her delivery is scattered, her tone is aggressive and she is speaking too quickly. This is a problem because she's tripping over her words whilst trying to introduce the psychology of interview techniques, forensic interview techniques when questioning juveniles and the main points of her arguements. What is she talking about, peas? Ultimately, irrespective of what her arguement regarding alleged leading the testimony of a child, these two very small children are nowhere to be seen.
Why in the world would the children go live with the therapist?? Now she has reason to keep them! What is wrong with this system?! I hope they get justice.
Unfathomable...this case requires common sense...GUILTY. Period....where are the boys?? Where? ? These toddlers were mistreated, neglected and failed by the two defendants. They NEVER ONCE searched or pled for them to be found...not a single tear was shed by this couple...the ten year old clearly spoke out to what he saw saying one toddler was cold to touch ( deceased) ...This was said without prompting...The defendants lied about the toddlers being with their grandma who then testified to never seeing the toddlers...they staged fake Christmas gifts but these babies never made it Cal city....even this defense attorney alluded to the fact that only Orrin may have made it to Cal city...wheres Orson then? So many inconsistencies...May justice be served 😢
You would think that if her children are “missing”, the female defendant would be seen running outside and searching around the house for Classic & Cinsere but nope! I’d be running frantically up and down sidewalk/street. Clearly can see through the bs. The boys were never at the new house
He’s told 4 or 5 different stories including two separate grand jury testimony and why they are using it as him being fed things to make up the stories or embellish them.
Sounds like Story time from TW and JW . Justice for Classic and Cinsere 💙💙 They are calling the children liars . Shame on them evil monsters . Why Grandmas and Parents allowed to visit these poor children? It just makes no sense !!!
The bottom line is Jazelle accepted and adopted both boys and as a result of Jazelles NEGLECT and clear LACK two babies are GONE wheres proof of life ????? GUILTY !!!!!AF!!!!!
I can't understand why this defense attorneys didn't bring up the facts about the biological family. How she wanted the boys and how the boys were removed from the first adoptive mother.
Do defense attorneys actually believe their defendants? or is their job only to help them maintain the lie and create the illusion, for the sake of wining a case, with a total disregard of the victims life!
DCFS needs to be audited. The Board of Supervisors needs to answer our questions as to HOW THIS KEEPS HAPPENING!!! Gabriel Fernandez, Anthony Avalos, Classic and Cincere didn't need to be murdered!!
I'm sickened by the lack of accountability by DCFS in California
The fact it's such a hassle for amazing couples to adopt when people like this exist is infuriating.
Actually it begins with parents. Parents have become detached to parenting or vanished completely. Our Legal system needs to be evaluated and revised. Why are we advocating LGBTQ rights and not child welfare care. I still believe mother's should be forced to complete parenting classes, home skills classes, sex education for prevention, family planning, and counseling the minute they find out they are going to be mother's.
Noah cuatro 🙏❌also from that area❌
OMG, I can’t believe the bullsh*t this defense attorney is presenting!! The Wests were living off the adopted children. In California an adoptive parents get $1,000 per child! That’s $48,000 per year! The West husband wanted to be a rapper which is laughable!! And the wife didn’t work either! They have 6 children and neither work! They moved because they though no one would miss those precious little boys!! Infuriating!!
@@myheart4jesusAdvocating for LGBTQ rights is advocating for child welfare. There are children who are LGBTQ. Do those children not matter?
At any given time there is multiple shitty things happening. We as a society can talk about multiple issues without dismissing the suffering of other groups.
Seriously! Blame a 10 yr old for what their parents did. That doesn't sound right. I seriously have to wonder about lawyers that defend people accused of murdering children.
It's like victim blaming 😡😠
She's not blaming the 10 yr old, she's explaining how those that came into contact with this child, questions asked, his own access to online reports can directly affect the memory and questions can lead to what the interviewers want to hear vs the truth.
I felt that way about criminal defense lawyers for a long time too but have gained a new perspective over the last few years. Public defenders don't choose their clients, they're assigned. Their role is to ensure their client is given a fair trial and that their constitutional rights are upheld. They have to work with their client to identify what the appropriate legal defense is (if any) and challenge the prosecution's case since they have the burden of proof to find the accused guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
@@JD-WLKY If you heard the prosecutor's cross examination of Dr N on the stand today ,I would say TW & CW are toast and to think their defense is having the state pay her $35 K +.....is disgusting for taxpayers....They will be convicted!!
I wouldn't trust CPS. They're the biggest traffickers in the world. Who knows but they're shady.
I stick by what I said when this first happened ... the boys never got to the new house. There were no gifts for them being wrapped.
Those maniacs "offed" the boys way before the new house, threw them in the trash. They'll never be found but they won't be forgotten by thousands.
I hope they pay for what they did to those sweet babies.
Right. So F-ing wrong!!! This is in CA. and I hope the department of corrections does the right thing and feeds these two to GP to be given real justice and what they deserve..
Also she referred to dirty diapers. DNA was collected on them and the did not belong to the two missing boys.
@@MarR310 agree totally, release the Hounds on these two, they are only sad they got caught!
Exactly I always knew that they didn’t make it to Cal City, but why them 2
Is this the case where they supposedly said the two little ones went missing? Maybe a year or two ago? I remember reading about it but never heard anything after that
Sooooo the 10yr old is lying ? This is alll i hear her trying to say. Soooo they planted alllll that information into the kids heads? This is BS... The ONLY thing i see here are two people that were good at getting rid of human remains, PERIODT! #GUILTY
Getting rid of human remains with no evidence they can't be that good.
Did you hear the part about her expert on the videos where the kids weren't seen leaving the house that day......how she said ethnicity can play a role in wether or not they would be seen? Aka she said you wouldn't have seen the kids cause they were black! 😮
@@kittycaruso50oh my god. Heard everything now!
@@kittycaruso50 well damn.... that's hilarious... desperately clutching at straws I guess 😅
Imagine not guilty on all counts and this inhumane couple regaining custody of their 2 biological and 2 adopted sons...This would be a travesty of injustice!! I pray that the jurors make the right decision. Classic and Cincere needs justice ⚖ and so do the 4 remaining children.
I would freak out!!!!!!!!!
Justice4theBoys🩵💙🩵💙🩵💙⚖️⚖️⚖️⚖️⚖️⚖️⚖️
It could happen. Let's pray for the truth to prevail.
The state left too much reasonable doubt :( there will be no justice
@@Elegant_Sausage I'm optimistic that a Guilty verdict will be delivered!!
I can see them being found not guilty due to reasonable doubt because there isn't enough evidence. I don't see them getting their other children back ever because there has been too much said about their crappy discipline practices. Also the remaining kids will be in danger after they have spoken up.
this lawyer lady is a horrible speaker .. tripping all over their lies !
That was my first thought. I'm trying to give her the benefit of the doubt that she's very nervous
she doesn't sound confident. I'm not knocking the lady, she has probably studied her ass off to get where she is. But this sounds like her 1st time speaking with a jury. Either that or she feels the people are guilty, which is making it hard to sound convincing??
People always trip over words when lies are involved from what I've seen ....
I agree. I can't even follow what she is trying to say because she's not presenting it well.
Fr she studders then catches herself
This is crazy. There are no baby steps leaving that back yard, cameras didn't pick anything up. And the 10 year old is saying what he saw . PUT THE MONSTER IN JAIL FOR LIFE THIS IS HAPPENING WAY TO MUCH.
Exactly!!
We all saw the video. Those boys were never in that backyard, and they never "looked" for them beyond twenty minutes. We knew those babies never made it to the new house.
6 minutes to be exact smh. Worthless human beings
Six minutes. Trezell drove around the block for only six minutes. Then he stood by a tree for another 13 minutes waiting for the police. She never left the house.
Yes. I truly hope that these monsters never leave prison and feel the sun or wind on their free face again.
Can we have training to spot sociopaths so we don't give them children?
THIS 🎯🎯🎯
Start by not allowing broke asses with no job, and only source of consistent income they’ve ever had by fostering children!
Can we not pay people to adopt children and also not allow people who don't work to adopt children. The state shouldn't be in the business of selling children to people. I understand giving money to foster parents, because the goal is reunification with family. But to pay strangers to adopt? If they don't have the financial means to take on a full life commitment to a child, they have no business adopting in the first place
All moot. Throwing a 10 year old under the bus is criminal. Where on the internet did Adrien see that Orrin had white expectorant coming out of his nose and mouth???? This lawyer is horrible.
How does their attorney sleep at night, defending those pigs?
@@marygoff3332 I don't know. I've asked myself that same question.
that's such a specific detail a child wouldn't make up. he must've felt conflicted talking about it knowing his parents would be taken away. truly horrific
@@tommywiseau_ yes, exactly.
Missing babies are responsibility of both parents. Direct supervision is responsibility of both parents. Proper shelter, appropriate nutrition, adequately clothed and education are responsibility of both parents. Adoption of babies to be ignored, unloved and cared for is not responsibility of both parents. Female attorney appears and sounds extremely aggressive and disrespectful while speaking to the jury. Not a good approach 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
That's good.
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I was thinking the same abt this attorney! I've heard some great lawyers that sound like they are giving a sermon or testimony in church that gave me goosebumps! This aint it! She sounds angry! Idk if there is any co-counsel that cld have given this statement but she is NOT a good speaker...period! She MAY be a great lawyer...idk. But I noticed when she started that her voice was shaky and her nerves were evident. I cld give a pass for that. But, I cant give her a pass for all the stumbling over and even mispronunciation or made up words! I felt sorry for the court reporter! If she was my defense attorney...I wld cringe so hard...and be scared AF! LOL!
@@tarafrye4939she also badgered and berated witnesses on the stand including the poor remaining 4 boys. I hope the jury sees beyond the antics
I really hope these people don’t get off. We all know these kids are gone and under their watch.
There is so much more to this case than the boy's words, right? You cant address the rest of it, so you throw the poor boy under the bus.
#JusticeForClassicAndSincere
100% - NO Adults saw the boys! Where are the bodies? How do TWO kids die under their "care" ???
I’m sorry I can’t even listen to this lady. I know she’s doing her job, but I am so sick of people making excuses for child killers.
What is she even babbling about
Being built like a palm tree 😂
Easier to understand by reading the transcript because her delivery and odd pauses get distracting
The prosecutor delivered a great opening statement!! Her testimony that she “keeps them separate” is all I needed to freaking hear! They are evil. They didn’t want to give up the income of having those two babies, but couldn’t handle them. This is terrible. I hope the biological mom she’s Bakersfield CPS.
Right. Mr. West described the toddlers as “ rambunctious “
What does your last sentence mean, I’m trying to figure it out??
They are both so creepy looking. The masks covered a lot.
bet the behavior panel would have something to say about Trezelle’s blink rate 😃
@@ttjotracy8315 lol for sure
I have no idea what this attorney is even talking about! Is she trying to say the 10 year old had an iPad and looked up news articles about the case to create his story? Not a great theory… try again lady!
If i was a juror I'd find em guilty even with reasonable doubt just on the abuse allegations by the kids. F them. The abuse is true no doubt. CONVICT EM!
Where is the video ? Of the boys walking?
There isn’t one
good question, 🤣🤣
10❤❤p
🤔So all of the professionals got it wrong ,their own kids and family remember it wrong and they are the only ones who are telling the truth 🙄🤨
The judges face .. lol he just want this trial to be over 😂
Agreed 👍
You can see the demons in their eyes. Not even they believe what their own lawyer is saying
Also there is no proof of any presents being wrapped
Always said that was wondering if her sister sent gifts wrap and tagged already cause if so then what gifts she was wrapping
Wrapping presents and chopping wood? these 2 are real pioneers.
Blaming a ten year old of lying ?? Not a good defense lady.
She doesn't even believe her client is innocent!!
So have these opening statements just now been released? I thought the case started a month ago? I'm confused here.
👋She sounds nervous. She doesn't believe herself. I can see her as a first-year student giving a presentation.
Thats exactly what I picked up from her body language. She was nervous and was having trouble with coordinating her presentation, the judge even noticed that and was trying to look like he wanted to believe what she was saying and moved around to compose himself through her statement.
Kids do not lie
I was thinking the same thing
Especially about seeing their brothers dead body. These people are evil
Especially not regarding their parents! That’s their biggest fear, even when abused.
And how would a child have such a wild imagination to make up the fact he saw the boys throwing up, heard a thud, and recalled the conversation abt the parents telling him to keep secret so HE doesn’t get taken away from them. That’s far too detailed for a child to come up with, let alone recall on several occasions. This lawyer is pathetic
Police and social workers and therapist should been only people having vists
you know wats sad though? Even though the parent does not deserve to see their child, the child's needs trump that. They will say it's not the right of the parent it's the right of the child. always something right?
So if the parents are not charged with anything and they dont go to prison foes this mean the children that are their own and the 2 adopted children will go back to these parents ?? Without proof that they didnt kill the boys? I think the 10 year knows what happened thats why jackie told him you dont have to talk if you dont want to
I think a snowball has a better chance in hell.
So they are basically saying that their 10 year old son is telling lies. There is no proof of life of those children from before they moved. If these two get off and regain custody of those children it will be a travesty in my opinion.
It’s petty but MAN her voice is killing me, it’s so shrill.
This is why I could never be a criminal defense attorney. Many times they know their clients are guilty and still lie to free them for the most heinous crimes. Crimes against children. Additionally, Pedos, rapists, and brutal murders!
If they don't get a quilty verdict it's courrption om cps no one should been able to vist those children no one
All leo's, that was involve fail these boys... Didn't care!!!..
I definitely would not hire her if I was charged with murder.
It makes me wonder if these defense attorneys actually believe the words coming out of their mouths
Anything for a dollar 💵
Not a single one 🤬🤬🤦🏻♀️
Since she's defending these two monsters "why not ask her clients "where are the boys?The only one that's being confirmation bias is her client,s .
Somebody got money
Even if they told her exactly what they did with the kids, she would never tell and would lie through her teeth. Her job is to get them an acquittal, nothing more and nothing less. Doesn't mean it's a commendable or moral thing to do, it's just how our justice system was designed. Every defendant is owed a proper defense. Otherwise they can appeal on the grounds of ineffective counsel. Which we don't need. So let her ramble her nonsense. There may not be hard physical evidence but the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming!
Some more far reaching crap from this defense attorney! I hope they both spend the remainder of their lives in prison. CA DCS should be held accountable for permitting these 2 do adopt any children, they could not even take care of themselves much less children!!!
She's a weak attorney in my opinion, Ray Charles can see they are guilty
Her demeanor is aggressive and offputting too.
Female attorney is w/out comparison the absolute most disrespectful public speaker to include severely lacks acceptable social skills imaginable. FYI: Upon evaluation of entire presented evidence both adopted parents are responsable for direct supervision of the babies (for which they were totally dependent upon). 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Sadly lawyers don't care for the truth. They want to to win!!
True. Defense attorney is wicked too, imo.
It is sooooo disgusting, one wants to vomit!
I don't see the disrespect. She's just presenting a defense.
Why is this Attorney so ANGRY??? IMO thats the wrong approach with the jury!!!!
I know her job is to defend, but she is doing it so wrong! I refuse to give details on what she SHOULD be doing, but this isn't it. She's flat out awful. The truth is speaking for itself at this point and we all know (herself included) how this trial is going to end. I'd be FLOORED if they won and are free of all charges.
She's doing a really bad job in general with this opening statement. It's pretty terrible.
yes she is horrible
There is no video of them walking on the streets of CC.
Hey parents why are you allowing your kids to go threw this. TELL THE F'IN TRUTH AND SAVED THE TAXPAYERS money and tell the truth so your kids don't have to do for you! And how in the hell do these attorneys that are representing people like this?
This attorney cant even coordinate the colors of red between her jacket and her skirt So how the Hell can she put together a believable defense for 2 guilty child murderers ? If I were Trizzell and Jacqueline i would be petrified. I Hope Sincere and Classic get the Justice they so Rightfully Deserve ! Death Penalty for BOTH or LIFE Without Parole !
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My color blind mind is so confused by that statement but your absolutely correct.
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Sorry, I shouldn't laugh,but her outfit is awful...lol😂.
Yup, in full agreement, they can not get away with this,but its possible they could walk away from.this.
I do think they managed to work on the kids somehow, and hence, they changed their statements.
This will be a travesty if they do not find them.guilty.
Unfortunately we know they are,but they covered there tracks well.
With no bodies and dna we are holding for hope!!
Facts😂😂😂😂
That skirt is atrocious. Black would have been better and much more flattering to her backside.
"Wrapping gifts while he gathers wood" .
They bought that house through the money they scammed, adopting and fostering children .
Does she think blaming the 10 yr old helps that's even more reason why I know they guilty as hell
Where is the rest of the trial footage??
Everyone could have done everything wrong but what matters and the question still stands WHERE ARE THE BOYS?🧐🤔
EXACTLY
Exactly. And one child may have accidentally died or been hurt....but TWO? C'mon.
They are deceased. Defense is pretending they are missing. Those 2 will never tell.
This attorney seemed very disappointed that she lost the case.
Once again I can’t understand how defense attorneys can defend people like this! Now…with that said, I understand that it is everyone’s right to a defense and fair trial so don’t reply to my opinion about defense attorneys. I would be the first in line for a defense and fair trial. There are wrongly accused innocent people and they really deserve the best defense, but in this case…omg.
Exactly! Many criminal defense attorneys still defend heinous people who they know are guilty.
Both of their eyes look so dead inside.
They look guilty
Esp the dad who flinches and raises brows every time a lie is told … the defense said Jw was wrapping presents while he got wood and his eyes flinched … lol
She looks pleasant and unbothered. Seems she’s the leader of the abuse ans he’s just her pawn helping back her and cover up.
Get T&j up on the stand and EXPLAIN THE CCTV FROM THE NEIGHBOURS HOUSE!!!!
👋With these parents a child would not make up a story like this. Somehow he has found the strength to sit in front of them and tell the truth.
Well said
Exactly!!
If you notice when she says there 2 Boy's to each person Jacqueline moves her Head and starts to blink like it made her nervous and Trazell stated blinking too and moves alittle
Wow. Now it's the kids and CPS fault and they are all lying and you expect that to be a suitable defense? Yikes. This is worse than letecia stauch defense and we see where that went
The only thing that defense has to do here is cast reasonable doubt. With 2 defendants and two attorneys representing they get twice the impact. They will cast blame everywhere but their clients, even on the 10yo son who had no reason to lie (unlike the adults here). Really hoping that prosecution has a strong timeline and case to present.
I didn't even see them doing that tho, the only thing she talked about was the children's involvement.
@@mwoods4608so far not impressed by defense
I believe something did happen to those boys. Orrin probably died in Bakersfield but Orson. I'm not sure what happened to him. It's hard to say with no physical evidence
@@mwoods4608 the only evidence the state has been able to present was the child’s 5 or so interviews where the 1st & 2nd primed, brow beating, illegally conducting the interviews from the beginning & why the process was absolutely changed. The state is using his testimony for the entire trial on their guilt.
How dare those parents killed adopted kids those kids has a like a brain a heart they want to grow with good people and live life not to be hurt and killed just because the parents didn't like what they're doing or how they act they're very lovable God wish love those kids spoil those kids may God be with them
Is the bottom line CHEW WITH YOUR MOUTH CLOSED or else Jackie will put you in a choke hold with her legs around you like any octopus? I believe the kids! They have no reason to lie! No motive to lie and most likely were abused by these two creeps Starling needs to fly away like the bird 🦅 she’s named. 🥹
In her brand new house that their adopted children bought. This case has bothered me so much. I do feel something evil going on, I don’t understand how they were able to adopt so quickly, why biological family members weren’t given opportunity to adopt, I personally would like to see the social workers field notes on home visits.
This is a double homicide opening statement. So, I do not understand this lawyer's fashion choices.
So the expert can point out the children in these videos? Cause if he cant do that, then his testimony is worthless
Omg Im pretty sure she just said, the kids being black can play a part in wether or not you would see them on the video. Wow.
Am I the only one thinking that she's telling these people what to say with her "she is going to tell you...."
She's seriously unlikeable. Also defense should never wear red to court. Not ever. Only black or grey.
I can't watch this. She's literally making my face physically hurt.
And, there is a...woman attourney, defending this pair, that got rid of these little boys, shame on her!
Agree.
This is the first trail in which’s both defense attorneys have some type of similarity to their clients…
I thought she was representing herself … she’s her twin !! And
Mr West attorney has a Hood aspect to him !
Not convincing at one moment!
Justice ❤❤❤
Her husband was out gathering wood like she's trying to make the cover a better homes and garden. Just sitting here with the opening from the defense. I'm already against the defense. And she seems young & inexperienced in a desperate attempt to use unfamiliar vernacular to try to change the narrative. Good luck!
Their BS story doesn't hang together. All parents know we wrap the kids presents late at night when they are asleep. Not some inside keeping warm by the fire while the two youngest are outside in the cold playing with chalk.
Add to that the youngest had car seats in the back?? Ummm parents know we put the car seats closer to from so we can reach in and buckle them easy and the big kids like to ride in the back
I can’t listen to shouters, defense lawyer
Where’s the video of those kids walking down the street?? And 2 and 3?? Please
How they can defend these monsters idk
Leopard and red? Call the fashion police she’s obviously guilty.
This opening is a mess. I cannot imagine how nerve wracking it must be to present a case in front of a jury and especially a high-profile case involving children but, to my mind and, without touching her arguement, her delivery is scattered, her tone is aggressive and she is speaking too quickly. This is a problem because she's tripping over her words whilst trying to introduce the psychology of interview techniques, forensic interview techniques when questioning juveniles and the main points of her arguements. What is she talking about, peas? Ultimately, irrespective of what her arguement regarding alleged leading the testimony of a child, these two very small children are nowhere to be seen.
Why in the world would the children go live with the therapist?? Now she has reason to keep them! What is wrong with this system?! I hope they get justice.
She look like she kin too Jackie
I was just thinking the same thing . This Lawyers looks like she is a relative.
Unfathomable...this case requires common sense...GUILTY. Period....where are the boys?? Where? ? These toddlers were mistreated, neglected and failed by the two defendants. They NEVER ONCE searched or pled for them to be found...not a single tear was shed by this couple...the ten year old clearly spoke out to what he saw saying one toddler was cold to touch ( deceased) ...This was said without prompting...The defendants lied about the toddlers being with their grandma who then testified to never seeing the toddlers...they staged fake Christmas gifts but these babies never made it Cal city....even this defense attorney alluded to the fact that only Orrin may have made it to Cal city...wheres Orson then? So many inconsistencies...May justice be served 😢
You would think that if her children are “missing”, the female defendant would be seen running outside and searching around the house for Classic & Cinsere but nope! I’d be running frantically up and down sidewalk/street. Clearly can see through the bs. The boys were never at the new house
I always feel sorry for defense attorneys when it's blazingly obvious their clients are guilty and they still have to do their best.
True enough but they picked the career. I don't feel too bad for them.
Is this being streamed live? I’d like to watch.
Hmmm... I just keep hearing her saying "they won't be walking around "
The lawyer, has to do a job, even defending disgrace parents!..
We tell children to speak up about things and then when they do, we call them liars.
He’s told 4 or 5 different stories including two separate grand jury testimony and why they are using it as him being fed things to make up the stories or embellish them.
@@dudemorris7769 that's so untrue
Sounds like Story time from TW and JW . Justice for Classic and Cinsere 💙💙 They are calling the children liars . Shame on them evil monsters . Why Grandmas and Parents allowed to visit these poor children? It just makes no sense !!!
Did she say it’s not peas?
Right!!! She repeated it too! What on earth?
That lawyer bought her suit at Walmart 😮
I saw an orb at the 1:51 mark 😢 😭 Them poor babies 😢 😭 Let's get justice for these boys!!!
😯😯😯 I saw it too!!! 😢😢🙏🏼
BYE FELICIA!!!!!!!! where are the boys bodies???????
Jacky, the Mater Dolores, trying hard to look like Holy Mary : WHERE ARE THE BOYS?
The bottom line is Jazelle accepted and adopted both boys and as a result of Jazelles NEGLECT and clear LACK two babies are GONE wheres proof of life ????? GUILTY !!!!!AF!!!!!
She knows shes lying her voice is not stable it quivers
She. Is. Not. Relatable. This style of speaking doesn't work for juries.
Omg 😳 yet another defense strategy : play victim 🙄 BS
I can't understand why this defense attorneys didn't bring up the facts about the biological family. How she wanted the boys and how the boys were removed from the first adoptive mother.
The prosecution put the first foster mother along with the bio parents on the stand to erase any speculation that they took them.
I’ve been waiting for this ❤
So when is gonna show proof for all of her allegations?
The Devil in the Red Suit.
Do defense attorneys actually believe their defendants? or is their job only to help them maintain the lie and create the illusion, for the sake of wining a case, with a total disregard of the victims life!
Why arent they also being charged with fraud! For receiving adoption subsidy for both boys for months after not a single sighting of them!!!
This defense attorney is ridiculous, from her clothes that don’t fit right to her excuses for child murderers. 🤦🏻♀️