Ayer on Logical Positivism: Section 4
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Bryan Magee host A.J. Ayer to discuss the philosophical movement of the 20th century known as, Logical Positivism.
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2;52 "Come and join the circle" This is upload is a real gem. Many Thanks.
"Well I suppose the most important defect was that all of it was false!" Lol!
I just love how he almost celebrates the fact that he was completely wrong. Truly inspiring! Politicians could learn from this guy.
Many thanks for the upload.....this and all the others Flame0430.
Ayer is magnificent and Magee does an excellent job.
Karl Popper said the same thing. In his autobiography, just after saying that he killed Logical Positivism, he said that he admired its attitude.
I love how excited Ayer gets!
Well, as a reviled metaphysician I'm happy to adopt what's left of LP, namely the disposition.
This is a great series. Thanks for sharing!
Nice. I didn't know about that, thanks!
Wikipedia editors would do well to watch this...
@achgeewells Oh, you know, "be good", "give to the clerics", "be humble", "kill the infidels", "pray all the time to appease God for all the sins you haven't committed", etc., slogans like these. Christians, although having no aptitude for logical thinking, intuitively feel that logic has recently become something of high esteem, accordingly they think that salvation of their childish "philosophy" lies in connecting these two or at least claiming they're not mutually incompatible...
@djs259 You are jumping to the conclusion that this means that Logical Positivism as a movement was a disaster, but there is an alternative possibility, namely that the reason Logical Positivism failed is because of inherent contradictions in the way humans view reality. If that is the case, the main flaw of the positivists would be that their goals were too ambitious.
Either way, LP was a great success in many respects and certainly exposed a lot of nonsense before being abandoned.
Then you don't care much for the history of philosophy in the 20th century.
I love Ayer's passion for his subject. He's brilliant to listen to.
I highly recommend Bryan Magee's book "Confessions of a Philosopher". He talks about logical positivism ALOT. Thumb this comment up so people read Bryan's book!
I find it interesting that he admits that none of the specific ideas hold weight, yet it "was true in spirit". Sounds fishy to me.
Dawkins of his day! (in fact it was Dawkins himself who linked me to this 'brilliant' man).Go to his site... dawkins.net
@djs259 "Logical Positivism was an unmitigated disaster for philosophy!"
Absolutely not. The movement's work is one of the relatively few instances where practical applications have come out of philosophy. Namely great advances in the scientific method. It's important to keep in mind that it was not falsified by a radically different alternative that simply was demonstrably better, but by internal inconsistency.
Ha! 06:38
I didn't know he left so many of his views behind. I re-read his book the other day, and although I disagree with a lot of what he says, I hope I've been effected by the clarity in which he wrote it. It really is a great piece of work.
When you said you don't care for LP I took you to be saying your not interested in understanding/learning about LP. Did you mean something else?
@djs259 Compared to many other movements in philosophy, which are also discarded, but never really impacted or clarified human thinking at all, you seem overly negative in this case.
barmp!