My name is Dave.. I was John Wallace's neighbor in Estes Park Colorado. He was the Radio Radar Man for the USS COD. I spent a lot of time with John he told me a lot of stories .
Check into that stub pipe. Fire hose onboard has standard sizes, so that might help point you in the right direction. You might also be able to locate the stub on a set of plans. Alternatively, you could uncap it and attempt to trace it back to its source inside. Also, if it's meant to supply water to a hose in that location, there'd be a valve somewhere.
Paul, have you talked to anyone on the Silversides? It's a Gato class, and they might have some ideas as to what those canisters are. They might also have that reel, too. My thought on the canisters are that they're either for storage of demo charges or for oxygen generators. As for the reel, has anybody tried to trace that pipe, see where it goes and is connected to what system?
@@paulfarace9595 Ok, that does throw a wrench in to the idea of tracing the pipe. If you've got access to or actually have the blueprints, that would be a help.
Those two canisters could hold demo charges for classified equipment, but another thought struck me. Could they be for storing classified film from reconnaissance missions?
@@paulfarace9595 No idea. But I know that US subs were sometimes ordered to take pictures of beaches, coastlines, or harbors either to plan upcoming invasions/strikes or to assess damages. Those canisters are close to the periscope well so short transfer time from camera to storage, they're securely locked so no one can easily gain access, they have slots that allow air flow to keep the film in a relatively stable climate-controlled environment, they're enclosed and thus dark, so the film won't be over exposed and spoiled. I have no idea if I'm right, or totally wrong, but it's a thought that occurred to me.
I’m a former able seaman of the merchant marine. It looks like a storage of a Jacob’s Ladder or Scramble net. Although not in position for immediate deployment (yet nothing on a sub really is) yet still on deck and able to be unraveled for use. A Jacob’s ladder was used for embarkation & disembarkation of persons over the side. Nice video! 👍👍😁🇺🇸
About it being a reel for canvas fire hose … land-based firemen go to great effort to drain and dry their hose after every use. Hose that’s put away wet rots. Also the entire length of flattened canvas hose would have to be completely unrolled off the reel before being connected to the supply. I was just on the USS New Jersey last week and saw several fire hose “holders” - they were not reels. The dry hose was “accordion folded” and hung in a sort of rack, for lack of the correct word. Could the reel be for a smaller, like 1 inch, rubber utility hose, used for washing the deck? Does one need to wash the deck of a submarine?
Those are good points although, it might be a different special type of fire hose different from surface based hoses. It could also be installed only during certain times, where the boat wouldn't be expected to submerge often or possibly during training operations or for a certain special mission. Just brainstorming here. Also I am pretty sure yes they do wash the decks on submarines. At least, last time I was on the Pampanito someone was indeed using what looked like a garden type hose to rinse off and clean the decks. Granted, museum boats never get cleaned off by submerging haha. But I am quite sure yes they would in service as well at various points.
Interesting mysteries to solve. I agree with some sort of scuttle/destruction device for the tubes. The reel will be interesting to see if you can find the answer.
#1 scope with the narrow top is the attack scope. #2 scope with the larger top was the all pourpose scope The #1 scope with the smaller head did not leave a very big "feather" or wake in the water . So for general look around use #2. For attacking use #1.
Was watching the movie "Submarine Command" (1951, free on UA-cam) and at timestamp 47:00begins a scene where a fire breaks out in forward battery. At timestamp 47:43 a hose appears coming out of the deck hatch I'm assuming it came off that reel. What do you think?
Talking years ago with one of my buddies who served on newer boats, they absolutely had destructive devices stashed right near all the sensitive equipment. He said they kept them is small special lockers. And they had brackets on the electronics to hold thermite grenades. As far as the reel, it looks the right size for a fire hose reel of the era. It probably would not be preconnected like a modern fire hose reel. The fact that there is some type of pipe there even though it is capped backs that up.
I guess the canisters could have been for something like Thermite to destroy the radios and IFF equipment. The "vents" and low down position could be that an explosive that may outgas and be heavier than air, due to the pressure differences of a sub diving and surfacing..
Paul, how are electrical hull penetrantions built into the pressure hull and made watertight yet allow normal operation of an electrical circuit and how they perform in battle conditions. I liked your episode on the battery soft patch. IMHO, a bit scary if a depth charge was close. Nice work.
Paul. As a firefighter of 45 years this does not appear to be a fire hose reel. There is no swivel for the water supply. The entire hose would have to be payed out to use it. Also, there are no handles to reel what every was there back up. ??
Id agree its some kind of reel, but maybe not fire hose... youd have to reel out the entire thing to use it, not something youd do in an emergency. Did the gato class have any means of taking on more fresh water if not at a port? Could it potentially be a water hose? A little hand cranked pump somewhere to suck water out of barrels or something in an emergency to replenish the subs water tanks??? Would really need to see whats on the other side of that cut off whatever it is...
Love your videos! What was the Morse code in the background in the first part of the video? Is there an amateur radio station onboard the COD? Thank you.😊
It does look like a fire hose reel, but what is missing is piping into the hub. As it is, the hose would have to be completely unreeled then connected to a watersupply. Not too practical.
Drach posted a video a few months ago showing two subs at sea exchanging movie cannisters using a highline between them. Maybe this is what the reel was for? Transfer of reels?
One way to determine if that's a capped water line is the diameter of the pipe. Fire hose comes in standard sizes. If it's an oddball size, probably not a discharge port.
The reel is a bit of a head scratcher - looking through Gato class information on Navsource and Warthunder didn’t turn up anything helpful. The relatively light construction of the reel says hose reel. It could be a utility hose for taking on Diesel fuel or for washing/fire suppression on an adjoining craft. The capped off pipe nearby can probably shed some light if someone traces where it goes. The unoccupied clips don’t speak to me about what they once held. The construction of the reel looks like a later yard maintenance modification to address a specific requirement.
The containers in the periscope well look suspiciously like storage for thermite charges for radio/crypto equipment. I’m not sure why there are slots cut in, except perhaps to avoid containing the gas and have the lid decapitate a sailor if the lid is unscrewed after the charge goes off inside the container. Of course venting the hot gas into the boat from a misfired charge doesn’t sound fantastic either. The classic definition of a Hobson’s choice as it were - neither choice is desirable.
If you search for WW2 Submarine firehose real images do pop up of reals like this 1 but nothing specifically saying it was on a submarine, what type or where mounted. If you can identify which pipe is penetrating the pressure hull where the capped off pipe is coming through & trace it back to the system it is used on, you should be able to narrow down the possibilities.
The wheel design, the capped pipe on the deck, the two pronged clip on the frame within easy reach of the ladder all indicate to me that this was probably a reel of pre-connected fire hose. The pipe probably had a 90 degree shut-off and the clip on the frame beside the ladder probably held the hose nozzle at the end of the hose. Are there other similar clips on that frame beside the ladder, possibly for holding other DC tools or equipment?
I'm not an engineer, my guess, What is a ventilation (exhaust) system that keeps the hydraulics from overheating. Again, not an engineer. The second, my guess, What is a rope spool for any one needing to work over the side, as a safety valve/net...I don't know Paul, but certainly someone will ponder better estimates than I. Interesting, regardless of what those two items are. Thanks, Paul! PS-Can the Guards win? Went down today, what a tremendous blow to this Tribe/Guard fan.
Fire hose reel seems reasonable, but it seems like there would also be a swivel in there otherwise the entire hose would have to be un-rolled before being connected to the supply.
That stub certainly looks to be the right size look up World War II Naval brass fire nozzle. It was a combination fog and straight dream firefighting nozzle.
I believe the clip shown at 14:18 is for a extended fog nozzle. However, I believe that those on BB55 have two clips, as the fog nozzle is approx 5' long.
@@dmcarpenter2470 Those are called low-pressure fog nozzles. I was thinking the same as you, the clip looked just like those used to hold the LP fog nozzles. Extensions, actually as they attach to the NAP (Navy all-purpose) nozzles. You remove the high-pressure fog nozzle and insert the low-pressure one in its place. Surprised me when I saw them used on civilian fire trucks, and they are still used to this day. They use a penetrating wand attached to the NAP nozzle to pierce through car hoods or radiators. Basically a cut-off LP wand.
For me, the curious thing on those canisters are the large slots. They imply that whatever is in there needs to "breathe" and doesn't care that you could stick a knife in and scramble things about, like a demo charge might. I would guess they are cylindrical, expensive somethings that need to drain water and stay dry.
And where were the mooring lines stored? If it is for some thinner ropes, there should be some kind of fastening for them. A fire hose can be rolled up on such a drum without any problems. And so the entire track line needs to be developed. Maybe it was a retractor for some pilot lines on which a thicker rope was pulled in, for example to transfer supplies to the ship, but it depends on what the procedures were like.
They were still using Hemp for mooring lines back then, I seem to think. At the moment my thought is that said reel is for holding spare mooring line, say for example when you were in the middle of a nest and had to provide mooring to the next ship outboard? Or am I wrong because hemp doesn't like seawater much the way firehoses dont?
It looks similar to the reel that was on our brush truck, however the one on our brush truck was a live reel, and i don't see any fittings on yours to indicate that's what it was. It's possible it was for fire hose, but i would question how they prevented it from unrolling while submerged. I would think there should be some sort of brake on it. Also, as others have said, fire hose back then was real susceptible to rotting if it remained wet all the time.
That reel by the escape trunk could have been used for hoses to be used for ship to ship refueling in the event the Sub needed to take on fuel to extend a war patrol.
This is off the wall but how close is the deck fitting to the ballast tanks. May be a pressure coupli g and air hose incase s b he's stuck on the bottom but shadow enough for surface supplied air to reflloat her?
Hi Paul, I'm not a submariner either so I'm guessing. First thought was a fire hose but it looks aukward to get at in an emergency. Would the boat carry a hose for fuel replenishment at sea, or at any rate away from a sub base?
Could the two vented tubes be for emergency oxygen generators canisters. Although it wouldn’t make much sense to lock them but I know they can get very hot so the lock may be to keep someone from fooling around with them. The reel might be a Jacob’s ladder.
The position of the reel behind a ladder implies to me that it's NOT something that would be used in an emergency. So not a rescue float or firehose or similar. Would there have been any long pieces of canvas used topside? Could this have spooled up the lifelines from the sides of the boat when not in use? Could this have been for a un-rep refueling or re-watering hose?
not a fire hose reel. it would never be placed under a ladder where you could not quickly access it. likely for reeling up mooring lines or a tow line.
It looks like a smaller version of the holders for the oxygen canisters that create oxygen via heat. Maybe those canisters were smaller in WWII? Or smaller canister for a smaller space?
Oxygen candles weren't tested on US subs until 1945 with the Sailfish, but if I were going to put small ones on a sub it would be someplace small, far away from the engines, in a heavily built ventilated container with a lock on it.
@@paulfarace9595 Paul, I love the fact that you actually take the time to answer questions. It’s a nice touch, and way better than a boilerplate response or the dreaded no response at all.
Well, how about a mooring line reel? The only reason I don't think it could be a fire hose reel is that if that capped fitting was a water supply, it is too small to connect to a fire hose. Of course, if it is a mooring line reel there should probably other reels elsewhere on deck. Just based on logic and not intimate knowledge.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say maybe a refueling hose for refueling in unconventional manners. Maybe you end up in a port that has fuel but no refueling apparatus. Or you have to refuel from drums.
The only issue I have with storing explosive devices in a submarine would be moisture I would think you would want a sealed compartment with a desiccant bag versus a sealed and locked compartment with ventilation. I think you're reel is a fire hose reel. Any ship boat barg of size we'll have firefighting equipment.
Scuttle charges. Cannisters would be opened for arming. The vents allowed sea water to enter and activates a potassium/phosphorus reaction like a little supernova.
Please leave us comments about what you think these things are for!
The reel was used for "towing" another sub or boat. My dad was a "torpedoman 2nd class aboard the U.S.S. PLAICE
If you have the schematics for the charges, make a model and see if it fits
My name is Dave.. I was John Wallace's neighbor in Estes Park Colorado. He was the Radio Radar Man for the USS COD. I spent a lot of time with John he told me a lot of stories .
Paul, your reel certainly does look like a hose reel. Can't help beyond that. Great job thanks.👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
Check into that stub pipe. Fire hose onboard has standard sizes, so that might help point you in the right direction. You might also be able to locate the stub on a set of plans. Alternatively, you could uncap it and attempt to trace it back to its source inside. Also, if it's meant to supply water to a hose in that location, there'd be a valve somewhere.
Maybe for storing a hose for divers performing maintenance and inspections? Thanks, Paul!
Fred, who served on the Sailfish, told me years ago that it was a fire hose reel.
I believe that it is the boat's rotisserie. Lol
Paul, have you talked to anyone on the Silversides? It's a Gato class, and they might have some ideas as to what those canisters are. They might also have that reel, too. My thought on the canisters are that they're either for storage of demo charges or for oxygen generators. As for the reel, has anybody tried to trace that pipe, see where it goes and is connected to what system?
Hopefully the Silversides crew will see this feed. 😮
The pipe enters the overhead of the FTR and is plugged. Need to look at old blueprints!
CO2 is heavier than air, so it might make sense for oxygen candles.
@@paulfarace9595 Ok, that does throw a wrench in to the idea of tracing the pipe. If you've got access to or actually have the blueprints, that would be a help.
Those two canisters could hold demo charges for classified equipment, but another thought struck me. Could they be for storing classified film from reconnaissance missions?
No... film taken by what camera? No need to stow it low and in such a heavy duty canister.
@@paulfarace9595
No idea.
But I know that US subs were sometimes ordered to take pictures of beaches, coastlines, or harbors either to plan upcoming invasions/strikes or to assess damages.
Those canisters are close to the periscope well so short transfer time from camera to storage, they're securely locked so no one can easily gain access, they have slots that allow air flow to keep the film in a relatively stable climate-controlled environment, they're enclosed and thus dark, so the film won't be over exposed and spoiled.
I have no idea if I'm right, or totally wrong, but it's a thought that occurred to me.
I’m a former able seaman of the merchant marine. It looks like a storage of a Jacob’s Ladder or Scramble net. Although not in position for immediate deployment (yet nothing on a sub really is) yet still on deck and able to be unraveled for use. A Jacob’s ladder was used for embarkation & disembarkation of persons over the side. Nice video! 👍👍😁🇺🇸
About it being a reel for canvas fire hose … land-based firemen go to great effort to drain and dry their hose after every use. Hose that’s put away wet rots. Also the entire length of flattened canvas hose would have to be completely unrolled off the reel before being connected to the supply.
I was just on the USS New Jersey last week and saw several fire hose “holders” - they were not reels. The dry hose was “accordion folded” and hung in a sort of rack, for lack of the correct word.
Could the reel be for a smaller, like 1 inch, rubber utility hose, used for washing the deck? Does one need to wash the deck of a submarine?
Those are good points although, it might be a different special type of fire hose different from surface based hoses. It could also be installed only during certain times, where the boat wouldn't be expected to submerge often or possibly during training operations or for a certain special mission. Just brainstorming here.
Also I am pretty sure yes they do wash the decks on submarines. At least, last time I was on the Pampanito someone was indeed using what looked like a garden type hose to rinse off and clean the decks. Granted, museum boats never get cleaned off by submerging haha. But I am quite sure yes they would in service as well at various points.
Interesting mysteries to solve. I agree with some sort of scuttle/destruction device for the tubes. The reel will be interesting to see if you can find the answer.
Future episode. Difference between the two periscope.
#1 scope with the narrow top is the attack scope. #2 scope with the larger top was the all pourpose scope The #1 scope with the smaller head did not leave a very big "feather" or wake in the water . So for general look around use #2. For attacking use #1.
I think are correct about the explosives for the IFF system.
I think it is a fire hose reel.
Good Job!
Thank You 🙂
I vote for fire hose reel and Pringles canisters.
Was watching the movie "Submarine Command" (1951, free on UA-cam) and at timestamp 47:00begins a scene where a fire breaks out in forward battery. At timestamp 47:43 a hose appears coming out of the deck hatch I'm assuming it came off that reel. What do you think?
Talking years ago with one of my buddies who served on newer boats, they absolutely had destructive devices stashed right near all the sensitive equipment. He said they kept them is small special lockers. And they had brackets on the electronics to hold thermite grenades. As far as the reel, it looks the right size for a fire hose reel of the era. It probably would not be preconnected like a modern fire hose reel. The fact that there is some type of pipe there even though it is capped backs that up.
I like the air hose reel for divers that someone suggested.
I think you may be correct with fire hose reel, although I haven't additional idea-diesel fuel line, take on diesel from a tender.
General purpose deck wash hose
I guess the canisters could have been for something like Thermite to destroy the radios and IFF equipment. The "vents" and low down position could be that an explosive that may outgas and be heavier than air, due to the pressure differences of a sub diving and surfacing..
Or prevent the canisters from being a pipe bomb!
Paul, how are electrical hull penetrantions built into the pressure hull and made watertight yet allow normal operation of an electrical circuit and how they perform in battle conditions.
I liked your episode on the battery soft patch. IMHO, a bit scary if a depth charge was close.
Nice work.
Not many bit stuffing glands allowed wire passages through the hull.
Always happy to see new vids, even with your weird sense of humor!
Weirdo sense of humor!!??😮😢😅😊
Paul. As a firefighter of 45 years this does not appear to be a fire hose reel. There is no swivel for the water supply. The entire hose would have to be payed out to use it. Also, there are no handles to reel what every was there back up. ??
Id agree its some kind of reel, but maybe not fire hose... youd have to reel out the entire thing to use it, not something youd do in an emergency.
Did the gato class have any means of taking on more fresh water if not at a port? Could it potentially be a water hose? A little hand cranked pump somewhere to suck water out of barrels or something in an emergency to replenish the subs water tanks???
Would really need to see whats on the other side of that cut off whatever it is...
Love your videos! What was the Morse code in the background in the first part of the video? Is there an amateur radio station onboard the COD? Thank you.😊
It does look like a fire hose reel, but what is missing is piping into the hub. As it is, the hose would have to be completely unreeled then connected to a watersupply. Not too practical.
No... the end eoukd be connected to the water supply after unreeling
Since mooring lines are shorter and usually stored below deck, I'd think that was used for storing a towing line.
Our mooring lines were stowed in lockers in the superstructure. This was 20 years after the war, so maybe things changed.
@@xbubblehead I was thinking they were stored in hatches along the deck, but I don't know for certain. I could be wrong, of course,
Drach posted a video a few months ago showing two subs at sea exchanging movie cannisters using a highline between them. Maybe this is what the reel was for? Transfer of reels?
Maybe
Very interesting
One way to determine if that's a capped water line is the diameter of the pipe. Fire hose comes in standard sizes. If it's an oddball size, probably not a discharge port.
The reel is a bit of a head scratcher - looking through Gato class information on Navsource and Warthunder didn’t turn up anything helpful. The relatively light construction of the reel says hose reel. It could be a utility hose for taking on Diesel fuel or for washing/fire suppression on an adjoining craft. The capped off pipe nearby can probably shed some light if someone traces where it goes. The unoccupied clips don’t speak to me about what they once held. The construction of the reel looks like a later yard maintenance modification to address a specific requirement.
The containers in the periscope well look suspiciously like storage for thermite charges for radio/crypto equipment. I’m not sure why there are slots cut in, except perhaps to avoid containing the gas and have the lid decapitate a sailor if the lid is unscrewed after the charge goes off inside the container. Of course venting the hot gas into the boat from a misfired charge doesn’t sound fantastic either. The classic definition of a Hobson’s choice as it were - neither choice is desirable.
If you search for WW2 Submarine firehose real images do pop up of reals like this 1 but nothing specifically saying it was on a submarine, what type or where mounted. If you can identify which pipe is penetrating the pressure hull where the capped off pipe is coming through & trace it back to the system it is used on, you should be able to narrow down the possibilities.
The wheel design, the capped pipe on the deck, the two pronged clip on the frame within easy reach of the ladder all indicate to me that this was probably a reel of pre-connected fire hose. The pipe probably had a 90 degree shut-off and the clip on the frame beside the ladder probably held the hose nozzle at the end of the hose.
Are there other similar clips on that frame beside the ladder, possibly for holding other DC tools or equipment?
Fire hose🧯🧑🏻🚒 reel.
I'm not an engineer, my guess, What is a ventilation (exhaust) system that keeps the hydraulics from overheating. Again, not an engineer. The second, my guess, What is a rope spool for any one needing to work over the side, as a safety valve/net...I don't know Paul, but certainly someone will ponder better estimates than I. Interesting, regardless of what those two items are. Thanks, Paul! PS-Can the Guards win? Went down today, what a tremendous blow to this Tribe/Guard fan.
Fire hose reel seems reasonable, but it seems like there would also be a swivel in there otherwise the entire hose would have to be un-rolled before being connected to the supply.
Probably just decorative gribblies from an a different model kit. Gribblies just make designs pop.
I hear CW in the audio... I assume that some hams have the radio room on the air?
I was trying to copy the CW, but Paul kept talking over the transmission… 😊
No hams... it's a digital recording
That stub certainly looks to be the right size look up World War II Naval brass fire nozzle. It was a combination fog and straight dream firefighting nozzle.
Keys for the rum locker?
Obviously the mechanism to rotate the ping pong ball basket for lottery games. /jk It definitely looks like a hose reel for fire fighting. Cheers!
I believe the clip shown at 14:18 is for a extended fog nozzle. However, I believe that those on BB55 have two clips, as the fog nozzle is approx 5' long.
@@dmcarpenter2470 Those are called low-pressure fog nozzles. I was thinking the same as you, the clip looked just like those used to hold the LP fog nozzles. Extensions, actually as they attach to the NAP (Navy all-purpose) nozzles. You remove the high-pressure fog nozzle and insert the low-pressure one in its place. Surprised me when I saw them used on civilian fire trucks, and they are still used to this day. They use a penetrating wand attached to the NAP nozzle to pierce through car hoods or radiators. Basically a cut-off LP wand.
Fuel hose reel , Cotton fire hose rots or tow line stowage -----
For me, the curious thing on those canisters are the large slots. They imply that whatever is in there needs to "breathe" and doesn't care that you could stick a knife in and scramble things about, like a demo charge might. I would guess they are cylindrical, expensive somethings that need to drain water and stay dry.
Or vent pressure if they accidentally blow...😮
And where were the mooring lines stored?
If it is for some thinner ropes, there should be some kind of fastening for them. A fire hose can be rolled up on such a drum without any problems. And so the entire track line needs to be developed.
Maybe it was a retractor for some pilot lines on which a thicker rope was pulled in, for example to transfer supplies to the ship, but it depends on what the procedures were like.
They were still using Hemp for mooring lines back then, I seem to think. At the moment my thought is that said reel is for holding spare mooring line, say for example when you were in the middle of a nest and had to provide mooring to the next ship outboard? Or am I wrong because hemp doesn't like seawater much the way firehoses dont?
Maybe a good way to store mooring lines. Did the boats carry their own mooring lines with them? Is there a similar reel towards the stern?
Probably just me but the Morse Code in the background was really irritating. Great clip though.
Touchy touchy touchy!😅
@@paulfarace9595 Yeah I know it was barely audible but it just wouldn't go away!
It looks similar to the reel that was on our brush truck, however the one on our brush truck was a live reel, and i don't see any fittings on yours to indicate that's what it was. It's possible it was for fire hose, but i would question how they prevented it from unrolling while submerged. I would think there should be some sort of brake on it. Also, as others have said, fire hose back then was real susceptible to rotting if it remained wet all the time.
That reel by the escape trunk could have been used for hoses to be used for ship to ship refueling in the event the Sub needed to take on fuel to extend a war patrol.
Never refueled subs at sea in WWII ... BTW the fuel manifold is way aft.
This is off the wall but how close is the deck fitting to the ballast tanks. May be a pressure coupli g and air hose incase s b he's stuck on the bottom but shadow enough for surface supplied air to reflloat her?
I just know about the "reel" my dad would never say anything about "self demolition" in case of sinking
Thermite Grenade holders? I initially thought containers for spare optic parts.
Hi Paul, I'm not a submariner either so I'm guessing. First thought was a fire hose but it looks aukward to get at in an emergency. Would the boat carry a hose for fuel replenishment at sea, or at any rate away from a sub base?
Were there oxygen generation candles in use during WW2?
Only in OBAs
Ask the New Jersey guy. Battleships and submarines are pretty much identical, so I’m sure he would know.
I am not conversant on a lot of the WWII technology but did they use sodium chlorate O2 Generating candles on this class of boat?
No... not fir rhe sub. Maybe in the OBAs
Could the two vented tubes be for emergency oxygen generators canisters. Although it wouldn’t make much sense to lock them but I know they can get very hot so the lock may be to keep someone from fooling around with them. The reel might be a Jacob’s ladder.
The position of the reel behind a ladder implies to me that it's NOT something that would be used in an emergency. So not a rescue float or firehose or similar.
Would there have been any long pieces of canvas used topside?
Could this have spooled up the lifelines from the sides of the boat when not in use?
Could this have been for a un-rep refueling or re-watering hose?
The reel is for grape licorice laces and the canisters are for the captains jelly beans.
You probably have diabetes 😢😮😂😂😂
not a fire hose reel. it would never be placed under a ladder where you could not quickly access it. likely for reeling up mooring lines or a tow line.
MK14 torpedo detonator storage.
On my Boomer they were mounted in berthing over a rack and painted red.
Detonators were kept separate of the fish.
It looks like a smaller version of the holders for the oxygen canisters that create oxygen via heat. Maybe those canisters were smaller in WWII? Or smaller canister for a smaller space?
Nope!😮
My guess would be a storage canister for flares.
Nope... big Pyro locker in ammo magazine ... these could hold only 2.
Going on a hunch, but those pipes might have held small demo charges as part of the scuttling process
Nope... the mk. 108 sub destruction system uses thee 55-lb TNT charges. These might only sink a row boat 🚣♀️
Oxygen candles weren't tested on US subs until 1945 with the Sailfish, but if I were going to put small ones on a sub it would be someplace small, far away from the engines, in a heavily built ventilated container with a lock on it.
Nope... too small.
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I think the reel was for the garden hose to water the flowers. Could the missing IFF gear be replaced thanks to 3D printing?
Fire hose reel
What if they were used as a secure way to destroy sensitive maps, photos, etc., in the event of an enemy attack, or before the boat was scuttled?
That clip looks too small. Maybe it held a crank for the reel.
Where were the mooring lines stowed?
Heavy duty, screw on cap, lockable? Storage for something valuable or dangerous. Most likely dangerous to destroy the intel equipment.
Very helpful.
Self destruction??? was my first thought....true guess didnt. read comments...,...hmmmmmm,
Out of curiosity when did subs start using elf/ulf antennas
In the 60s on boomers
@@paulfarace9595 Paul, I love the fact that you actually take the time to answer questions. It’s a nice touch, and way better than a boilerplate response or the dreaded no response at all.
Those 2 canisters are for oxygen candles
Heck no
Shore power cable reel perhaps?
Nope... our USN power cables were huge !
@@paulfarace9595 Oh yeah, I remember - 18 pounds per foot. Handled many many many shore power cables in my time in the Navy.
I'm going with fuel hose for sharing or taking on fuel at sea.
Not done ...
@@paulfarace9595 Absolutely a rotisserie then? Giant bingo ball thing perhaps.
I think it’s a reel for fuel transfer line if it carried such a thing, just curious,
Fuel transfer lines are HUGE ...
Refueling at sea ?
Well, how about a mooring line reel? The only reason I don't think it could be a fire hose reel is that if that capped fitting was a water supply, it is too small to connect to a fire hose. Of course, if it is a mooring line reel there should probably other reels elsewhere on deck. Just based on logic and not intimate knowledge.
towed sonar array?
LOL
Towed array Mk-1.
LOL
Thermite grenade holders for destroying the classified electronics?
You'd need more bang!
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say maybe a refueling hose for refueling in unconventional manners. Maybe you end up in a port that has fuel but no refueling apparatus. Or you have to refuel from drums.
Do you think those canisters held OXYGEN CANDLES??
The only issue I have with storing explosive devices in a submarine would be moisture I would think you would want a sealed compartment with a desiccant bag versus a sealed and locked compartment with ventilation. I think you're reel is a fire hose reel. Any ship boat barg of size we'll have firefighting equipment.
Like the liberty boat, built, but never used.
Scuttle charges. Cannisters would be opened for arming. The vents allowed sea water to enter and activates a potassium/phosphorus reaction like a little supernova.
Those would sure be small scuttle charges
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BRO....want to learn about this momsun *sp lung. not gonna google, I'll wait to here from you.... This stuff is so interesting. Thanks!