2011: The Madoff family speaks to 60 Minutes

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  • In October 2011, 60 Minutes interviewed Bernard Madoff's wife Ruth and son Andrew in their first television interview following his arrest.
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  • @Kiinell
    @Kiinell 7 місяців тому +73

    I totally believe Ruth. My father was the same. Never discussed anything with my mother when it came to money. Wives of that generation didn't ask questions.

    • @Justice-ef9sk
      @Justice-ef9sk 2 місяці тому +9

      I agree. My husband is a carpenter. He builds houses, garages, decks….. he can build and side just about anything. We have been married almost 25 years and I can honestly say: I couldn’t tell you the difference between a 2 x 4 and a 2 x 6. I don’t know anything about J channel or soffit, couldn’t tell you the difference between a hip roof and a gable and don’t even ask me about the gazillion different kinds of nails!!! lol
      My point is… Just because we are married to a man that is very good in his trade doesn’t mean we know what the hell he’s doing at work!

    • @robinali6903
      @robinali6903 Місяць тому

      Cool story bro

    • @elikatsis3947
      @elikatsis3947 Місяць тому +3

      @justice…..I appreciate your input…….I can see similar patterns in my own life and relationships

    • @yvankrzeslo6366
      @yvankrzeslo6366 Місяць тому +2

      same from my parents

    • @briansanford1721
      @briansanford1721 День тому +1

      HAH! Ruthy said: "I cooked", What, the books?!?

  • @embeth446
    @embeth446 2 роки тому +437

    She married the man at 18, practically a child herself. They grew up together. He was all she knew. I always thought she was treated a bit harshly for not immediately cutting ties with him. It wasn’t as simple as it seemed. Odd story about the attempted suicide though. Rather than writing their sons letters of apology or love they just sent them a bag of jewels in the mail with no explanation. Shows the role that material things played in their lives.

    • @pineapplewatch41
      @pineapplewatch41 Рік тому +4

      Sounds like my girl right now , got with her in 2012 and still going on with scandal I’ve committed

    • @mrsx7944
      @mrsx7944 Рік тому +2

      I agree.

    • @darkeyezs
      @darkeyezs Рік тому +10

      She met him at 13. Truly a child.

    • @darkeyezs
      @darkeyezs Рік тому +9

      @@pineapplewatch41 Scandal you've committed?

    • @thepotatoincident3593
      @thepotatoincident3593 Рік тому +1

      @@darkeyezs Im not sure bernie's croaked it, this fella seems like him

  • @angelcitygirl
    @angelcitygirl Рік тому +26

    I just finished watching the Netflix 4 part series. It's actually super sad. Everyone around Bernie, not just those who "invested" were devastated. Mark committee suicide. Andrew died of cancer in 2014. Thierry a big investor also killed himself. Ruth is still alive but was stripped of almost all the remaining $70 million left. It's just eye opening to see the devastation. Bernie died in 2021.

    • @JoshMaxPower
      @JoshMaxPower 2 місяці тому

      She’s still got 2 million and a three-room house, which is more than I got. And, hey,, she spent decades living a life of absolute luxury and zero work, adding nothing of value to the world. F her.

    • @hotanez99
      @hotanez99 Місяць тому

      That is what you call karma, my friend. What goes around, comes around.

    • @govindagovindaji4662
      @govindagovindaji4662 24 дні тому +2

      @@hotanez99 No, that is not karma for them. It is more like "sins of the father"...

  • @cz2165
    @cz2165 Рік тому +39

    Michelle Pfieffer really nailed her portrayal of Ruth Madoff in the HBO movie. I actually feel a little sorry for Ruth.

    • @jenniferlawrence9473
      @jenniferlawrence9473 Рік тому +3

      Having been in the corporate world for 25 years, I've always said business breeds psychopaths. But they're able to get away with their crimes because it's 'just business.'

  • @stefaniac2095
    @stefaniac2095 2 роки тому +306

    This man killed his family and destroyed thousands. A true tragedy. I am so sorry for all his victims

    • @LassieFarm
      @LassieFarm Рік тому +27

      Victims?? 12 percent returns every year? They knew something was fishy. More like greedy fools than victims

    • @thecarpetman7687
      @thecarpetman7687 Рік тому

      @@LassieFarm a lot of them definitely must have suspected something…but I reckon they figured that if you are at the top of the Ponzi scheme and in it a long time…you will always get dividends while the newer entrants get nothing

    • @frankiet7911
      @frankiet7911 Рік тому +5

      @@LassieFarm I agree..Bit of both let's say. That return it's impossible.

    • @dougiesherwin9591
      @dougiesherwin9591 Рік тому +1

      @@LassieFarm That's exactly how Bernie explained away what he did. He said his "investors" were greedy suckers, who got what they deserved.

    • @Justice-ef9sk
      @Justice-ef9sk 2 місяці тому +1

      @@LassieFarmTHANK YOU!!

  • @colinmclennan1465
    @colinmclennan1465 2 роки тому +204

    They might not have gone to jail, but Ruth and the kids paid a heavy price anyway.

    • @danger26102
      @danger26102 2 роки тому +13

      Ruth paid a heavy price??? she lost the stuff that’s not even hers to begin with lol

    • @colinmclennan1465
      @colinmclennan1465 2 роки тому +30

      @@danger26102 I was referring to her having two dead sons. That's before you get to the shame, and being shunned in all the circles she once moved in. Not jail, but not a happy ending either.

    • @danger26102
      @danger26102 2 роки тому +1

      @@colinmclennan1465 thumbs up

    • @colenexoxo8939
      @colenexoxo8939 2 роки тому +16

      @@colinmclennan1465 She paid a Very Heavy Price. I Agree.

    • @Chinookman
      @Chinookman 2 роки тому +12

      2 dead sons. I’ve read everything I can find. And I’ve personally known several women very much like Ruth. Exactly like Ruth. She had no idea. She is another victim I’m my opinion.

  • @neilcunninghammedia
    @neilcunninghammedia Рік тому +75

    I've watched this so many times. Ruth's account of events is so compelling.

    • @missb3161
      @missb3161 Рік тому +4

      Right !

    • @user-py5kg4yw1r
      @user-py5kg4yw1r 5 місяців тому

      So doesn’t makes any cents just like Farackaway Beach construction which took forever

    • @bobbyheenan4061
      @bobbyheenan4061 4 місяці тому +1

      The Madoffs lived the GOOD life for a long time. Ruth got to keep $2M until she dies. Not too bad!!

  • @fannyfayvintage7668
    @fannyfayvintage7668 Рік тому +16

    She dated him since she was 18 years old in 1959, how worldly is an 18 year old girl in 1959?....she was naive and she probably didn't question anything he did. Why would she question their good fortune? She didn't wonder why they were super wealthy, she had a big-shot successful husband, nice sons, a great life.

  • @Dk-jj3vu
    @Dk-jj3vu 2 роки тому +485

    I have no sympathy for the Patriarch of this family, but Ruth’s thinking, my pop worked the same job for 30 years and took care of the family bills, and I know my mom has zero clue what the internet bill costs per month and what exactly he did at his job. The reporter saying “people can’t believe”, I can absolutely believe their story. When the family patriarch can be described as a bully, you learn to only ask what you absolutely need to know about.

    • @johnhagans2190
      @johnhagans2190 2 роки тому +77

      This is why we need to empower our daughters. Don’t take things for granted. Ask questions, family finance should be everyone’s concern.

    • @rachelm.3173
      @rachelm.3173 2 роки тому +15

      @@johnhagans2190 💯

    • @neverwinta7702
      @neverwinta7702 2 роки тому +16

      They knew

    • @margaret928
      @margaret928 2 роки тому +54

      I agree especially woman from that generation often let their husbands take care of the finances. My uncle died and left my aunt broke. She had no idea he was that bad with money

    • @swtcarmel1
      @swtcarmel1 2 роки тому +5

      💯

  • @CollinSamatas
    @CollinSamatas 2 роки тому +382

    This is just so incredibly sad. Ruined lives and victims everywhere…So many people lost so much.

    • @mr.rightnow.7300
      @mr.rightnow.7300 2 роки тому +1

      Kevin bacon is a friend of mine. Not an A list actor but very comfortable financially. Bernie got 14 million out of Kevin and Kiera. It was a chunk but not everything they had thank goodness. Some people weren't so lucky. Stupidly they tied all their money up in him and lost it all. People went to bed multimillionaire,s and woke up broke and in debt.

    • @GS-zc4sk
      @GS-zc4sk Рік тому +3

      Oh well

    • @GS-zc4sk
      @GS-zc4sk Рік тому

      Where's the other 2 trollers?? It's neverending.

    • @cleobuck7717
      @cleobuck7717 Рік тому +2

      Meaning two in the bushes !

    • @ultimatedouchebag6760
      @ultimatedouchebag6760 Рік тому +6

      greed and evil walks hand and hand......you mean so many greedy people lost so much by evil.

  • @Pulsonar
    @Pulsonar Рік тому +75

    I never thought the Madoff family were completely innocent of knowledge of Bernie’s crimes until I saw this. The wife was just plain ignorant, but the boys knew nothing, that much is clear. Andrew has the look of a man who has had the soul ripped out of him. He answered every question without hesitation, a quiet rage caused by his fathers unbelievable crime and the devastating fall-out still burns deep within.

    • @rudyavila1825
      @rudyavila1825 10 місяців тому +12

      Looks can be very deceiving. I can't say for certain that Bernie's family was in on it, but I also can't say for certain that they weren't. There is more I want to say regarding this, but it's ultimately fruitless because both sons are dead and Ruth, be she innocent or guilty, has paid dearly. She lost her sons, her husband, her great wealth and her reputation. Part of me feels sorry for her.

    • @gabrielfreitas8105
      @gabrielfreitas8105 10 місяців тому

      I read somewhere that right before Bernie was arrested, Ruth made a large withdrawal and separated her money out of their joint account. If that’s true, I HIGHLY doubt she didn’t know something was up

    • @oscarlandag1831
      @oscarlandag1831 10 місяців тому +4

      Of course they were in on it if you follow the market it's obvious.

    • @rumblefish9
      @rumblefish9 8 місяців тому +5

      The wife knew but was complacent because she was getting everything she wanted. But his sons didn't because they turned him in to the authorities.

    • @oscarlandag1831
      @oscarlandag1831 8 місяців тому +5

      @@rumblefish9 your a fool if you believe that. I trade for a living and there's no way they wouldn't have noticed his returns not matching price action. He told them to turn him in so it would appear they were innocent they were all in on it

  • @kathCT
    @kathCT Рік тому +22

    I’m very sorry that Andrew and Mark passed away. Thinking of their children and Ruth.

  • @greenbeagle13
    @greenbeagle13 2 роки тому +81

    Why would anyone doubt him back then. He was knighted by the folks who were supposed to watch over him. 🙄

    • @cadillacholmes4836
      @cadillacholmes4836 2 роки тому +7

      Yup unfortunately I know so many people who would sell, they're soul for money its path

  • @Starfish2145
    @Starfish2145 2 роки тому +262

    Madoff destroyed his whole family. So sad.

    • @capricemadrid5353
      @capricemadrid5353 2 роки тому +17

      who cares about the Madoffs, its the other families he destroyed

    • @karinliss9599
      @karinliss9599 2 роки тому +11

      So selfish

    • @GolfDuff
      @GolfDuff 2 роки тому +2

      @@capricemadrid5353 so true!!!

    • @niks8521
      @niks8521 2 роки тому +1

      @@capricemadrid5353 how about caring for them ALL,as they are ALL suffering??? People are so quick to dish out their opinions of someone, but forget the same measure of judgment u give is gonna come back to either you or your loved one(s)

    • @scottodonnell7121
      @scottodonnell7121 2 роки тому

      @@capricemadrid5353 would have been a good case for the death penalty

  • @eyobberihun8966
    @eyobberihun8966 Рік тому +27

    The mother gives me the vibe of “why are these people mad at me for spending their hard earned money.”

  • @jninlove
    @jninlove Рік тому +68

    I really feel for Mark and Andrew. Stay strong for the loved ones and ones who love you in the situation.

    • @gabriella3763
      @gabriella3763 Рік тому +21

      They both passed shortly after. It’s very sad.

    • @toughtittypdiddy4634
      @toughtittypdiddy4634 Рік тому +8

      Only the mom is still alive

    • @lolacole5653
      @lolacole5653 Рік тому +6

      Mark committed suicide and Andrew died of illness.

    • @dkupke
      @dkupke 9 місяців тому

      Funk them. They were both in on it. Hell is not hot e enough.

    • @rumblefish9
      @rumblefish9 8 місяців тому +8

      @@lolacole5653 Andrew died of cancer and his wife says that his father's crimes really took its toll on his ability to fight the illness

  • @electrofonickitty823
    @electrofonickitty823 2 роки тому +19

    Andrew sounds so disappointed with his dad. I do say I believe him, he sounds sincere and doesn't ask for forgiveness for his father's crimes.

  • @DCH20H9
    @DCH20H9 11 місяців тому +7

    A year later and this is by far still my favorite video…

  • @jeanettecook1088
    @jeanettecook1088 Рік тому +119

    I too was ruined and robbed of hundreds of thousands of dollars by my husband, who I trusted. I had no idea what a thief he was until after I divorced him, and had to dispose of property he'd stolen while we were married. It is possible to be married and have no idea about a spouse's activities. I empathize with the family here... it happened to me, on a smaller scale.

    • @allanfifield8256
      @allanfifield8256 Рік тому +9

      My second wife ran up ten's of thousands of credit card debt and spent it on God-Knows-What. I had no idea. Community Property state.

    • @jeanettecook1088
      @jeanettecook1088 Рік тому +5

      @@allanfifield8256 That may be, but from what I understand the credit card debt belongs to the card holder alone. If she held it only in her name, according to my banker, it's her debt alone. Have you looked into that?
      We also have cards, my present husband and I. He also has issues with spending, and several debts, but I'm not too concerned since I work a job now that will probably help us pay them off.
      I hope you recover your funds.

    • @allanfifield8256
      @allanfifield8256 Рік тому +2

      @@jeanettecook1088 It was 20 years ago.

    • @gracie3174
      @gracie3174 Рік тому +3

      Same happened to me.

    • @abhishekbasu8694
      @abhishekbasu8694 Рік тому +6

      ​@@kingdarius5252 his 1 son commited suicide in 2009 or 10. His other son died of cancer in 2014

  • @UncleTravelingMac81
    @UncleTravelingMac81 Рік тому +34

    The comments on here are not what I expected....they're one of those rare occasions when I'm not disgusted by society. I also found the family to be credible and feel bad for what he put them through. An all around terrible situation. As always, a great interview by Morley Safer; he was a very good journalist.

  • @eightiesaddictone9063
    @eightiesaddictone9063 2 роки тому +54

    The worst part was Madoff was so unbelievably arrogant and unremorseful.

    • @oakstgorillas
      @oakstgorillas 2 роки тому +10

      the arrogance and greed and lack of remorse of the investors while they believed they were making unreal profits shows the immorality of the system and the players. everyone knew it was a joke but they all were getting away with it, big time!

    • @jaknap1
      @jaknap1 2 роки тому +6

      That’s why he was able to pull this off and fool so many smart people. Investment firms blindly gave him millions $$$ without asking any questions and validating anything.

    • @oakstgorillas
      @oakstgorillas 2 роки тому +2

      @@jaknap1…. smart people? fooled? everyone knew 10% every year can not be legit but mansions in Conn. were built by those who sold his lies! they were doing people favors letting them in on the promised profits.

    • @Commentator541
      @Commentator541 2 роки тому +2

      Thi is why he is so successful! Much to learn from him.

    • @oakstgorillas
      @oakstgorillas 2 роки тому

      @@Commentator541.... who to be and who not to be.

  • @mccormickshiddenhomestead1147
    @mccormickshiddenhomestead1147 2 роки тому +384

    Serial killers live double lives. Plenty of people never know about their spouses crime. It's not hard to believe they didn't know.

    • @Cris-hk4cn
      @Cris-hk4cn 2 роки тому +22

      Absolutely right

    • @yesterdayitrained
      @yesterdayitrained 2 роки тому +13

      Exactly!

    • @curiousworld7912
      @curiousworld7912 2 роки тому +19

      Dennis Rader, the 'BTK killer', had a family who knew nothing of his crimes. I agree; I think it's very possible for even those close to each other, to never really know what secrets can be kept. I believe it's completely credible that Madoff's wife and sons had no idea that his business was all a lie.

    • @4465Vman
      @4465Vman 2 роки тому +9

      agreed

    • @9876karthi
      @9876karthi 2 роки тому +12

      Yap, the lady has lost both of her sons, she has really to live with what is it all worth of? Possibly she was living under the shade of her well doing husband, not questioning things she may not understand.

  • @kalipress4338
    @kalipress4338 Рік тому +21

    She came from a time in history when women became dedicated wives. She strikes me as a woman who relied solely on her husband. So one can understand how she continued to support him after he was arrested. Hope she’s living a more peaceful life now.

  • @pty1pty2
    @pty1pty2 Рік тому +50

    What an inmense tragedy .RIP the 2 sons.

  • @pavanatanaya
    @pavanatanaya 2 роки тому +29

    They were kept in the dark by comfort and ease

    • @jay4you853
      @jay4you853 Рік тому +3

      Or trust. When you're married with someone for years most of the time you trust them with your life. Many people get cheated on like just that. They loved they clearly comfort but I think the main issue was trust.

    • @pavanatanaya
      @pavanatanaya Рік тому

      @@jay4you853 Fair enough. Perhaps that works for the wife. The kids were in the company

    • @zazubombay
      @zazubombay Рік тому

      @@jay4you853 Yes.

  • @melanielapan4632
    @melanielapan4632 2 роки тому +151

    Wow I was just reading the last son Andrew died from cancer. Probably created by the stress. Both sons gone, how sad for Ruth. Hope she finds some peace.

    • @rasul407
      @rasul407 2 роки тому +12

      Are you serious?

    • @rhino5100
      @rhino5100 2 роки тому +11

      @@rasul407 Yes. Andrew Madoff/Cause of death
      Lymphoma
      His younger brother, Andrew, died from lymphoma in 2014. He was 48. Like his mother, Andrew was never charged in his father's scheme and denied knowing what his father had been doing for decades. Apr 15, 2021

    • @brettneuberger6466
      @brettneuberger6466 2 роки тому +9

      So sad.

    • @mcq9667
      @mcq9667 2 роки тому +18

      @@rhino5100 Their son, Mark, died by suicide through hanging, not lymphoma. Their son, Andrew (interviewed here), did die of lymphoma.

    • @rhino5100
      @rhino5100 2 роки тому +6

      @@mcq9667 Yes, I know. The start of my response says "Andrew Madoff". I read the book Mark Maddoff's widow wrote in response to her husband's suicide.

  • @msozzaric2638
    @msozzaric2638 2 роки тому +113

    Just learned that Andrew passed from cancer in 2014. This woman could not have gone through more heartache
    Everyone she loved everything she had gone…

    • @Sadness57
      @Sadness57 2 роки тому +31

      She had an amazing life for 30 years that 99 percent of people will never experience. Don’t feel too bad

    • @p.t.4960
      @p.t.4960 2 роки тому +14

      She's a regular Carmella Soprano

    • @francenekomsa8157
      @francenekomsa8157 Рік тому +17

      What about the people who lost everything they had to this man. She knew and she lived a very good life. I believe the son but not her.

    • @msozzaric2638
      @msozzaric2638 Рік тому +16

      @@francenekomsa8157 i didn’t defend her. I just pointed out the fact that regardless of her involvement life could not be shittier for her. Losing money is one thing, losing a child is a whole other

    • @carlosk8103
      @carlosk8103 Рік тому +13

      I mean her family maybe dead but she's alive and living in a 4 million dollar home today hard to feel sorry for her... Also personally I think she was in on it...as she handed it very well... too well... The sons I believe but not her...

  • @atri-us
    @atri-us 2 роки тому +61

    When the cast of "Wizard of Lies" said that they were convinced Ruth had not known about the criminality of her husband I was surprised. Having watched this interview I have come to agree with them.

  • @mpho87
    @mpho87 2 роки тому +98

    I feel really bad how this families story turned out all because of greed. Truly heartbreaking.

    • @pjaypender1009
      @pjaypender1009 2 роки тому +5

      Feel bad? Really? I have no sympathy for Bernie Madoff's wife.
      The kids I have some sympathy for, but the wife? Nope.

    • @mpho87
      @mpho87 2 роки тому +5

      @@pjaypender1009 what I mean is that all this did not have to happen if it was not for greed and that is heartbreaking.

    • @duke8407
      @duke8407 Рік тому

      Every family in America is greedy , Bernie did no wrong

    • @guygrip9634
      @guygrip9634 Рік тому +1

      @@pjaypender1009 we should not judge others for they two are gods force

    • @tiararoxeanne1318
      @tiararoxeanne1318 7 місяців тому

      ​​@@pjaypender1009She was 18 when she married Bernie, then became a Stay At Home Mother (SAHM) all of her life. Never got enough education to understand how a business works, moreover a complex one like the trading, investment, and asset management business that his husband run. She even didn't know what a Ponzi scheme was (they taught about it in college, not in high school). I believe she was blindsided, as their children were. One key factors why Bernie has successfully run his scheme for more or less 30 years is that he knew how to keep his mouth shut. And it started by keeping it a secret from his own family.

  • @kungfumind.
    @kungfumind. 2 роки тому +28

    Ruth is doing very well for herself, she's now living in a $4.4 million beachfront property in Old Greenwich, Connecticut with her daughter in law. While she inherited 2M.

    • @artparty222murphy9
      @artparty222murphy9 2 роки тому +17

      And both her sons are dead? Really ? Doing well?

    • @msjay025
      @msjay025 2 роки тому +2

      @@artparty222murphy9 Well she’s not dead

    • @elizabethbarrios6336
      @elizabethbarrios6336 2 роки тому

      @@artparty222murphy9 isn't only one dead??

    • @laurahoward5426
      @laurahoward5426 2 роки тому +3

      Inherited? Allowed to keep by US MARSHALL'S SERVICE

    • @mc.8391
      @mc.8391 2 роки тому +4

      I guess it de[ends what you call "doing very well for herself"...... as a mother I dont think she has done very well at all plus from what I can gather she is shunned by many folk and is now a widow. Some may think that having a load of cash is a worthy replacement, but not me and not lots of other folks I suspect. None of this reflects my opinion of her husband.

  • @BazzerObama
    @BazzerObama Рік тому +5

    Don’t shed too many tears for Ruth Madoff, she lives a far more comfortable life than many law abiding, hard working Americans……..sadly crime does pay !!

  • @latoya1591
    @latoya1591 Рік тому +14

    I could listen to her speak all day. So gentle and dignified.

  • @leesher1845
    @leesher1845 2 роки тому +100

    Mrs. Madoff was a beautiful young woman.
    I believe her and I believe her son.

    • @Cris-hk4cn
      @Cris-hk4cn 2 роки тому +6

      Me as well.

    • @gretagordon6346
      @gretagordon6346 2 роки тому +2

      0

    • @Tkb135
      @Tkb135 2 роки тому +10

      She’s beautiful so you believe her? The only reason I believe her is because she is clearly an idiot.

    • @luisdeleon9819
      @luisdeleon9819 2 роки тому +5

      Why? Because she is beautiful? The Melania syndrome.

    • @kcjones8998
      @kcjones8998 2 роки тому

      @@luisdeleon9819 Everything always comes back to trump

  • @jeremyexalted8572
    @jeremyexalted8572 2 роки тому +60

    Mardoff was an authority in the industry trusted by all and sundry and just how many people know exactly what their parents and spouses are doing in the office ???

    • @serenity2655
      @serenity2655 2 роки тому +7

      I certainly didn't.

    • @elizabethgrogan8553
      @elizabethgrogan8553 2 роки тому +4

      @@serenity2655 I did, but only because my father loved to have us visit him there occasionally. He adored his wife and children and would never have betrayed us. We always felt secure with our parents.

  • @dude999642
    @dude999642 2 роки тому +14

    He was the most trusted con-man of all time ($65 billion), so it's fairly understandable that said super con-man could even fool his own family for 15 years or so.

  • @70s80sVintage
    @70s80sVintage 2 роки тому +156

    Honestly, I started watching this video with a very harsh opinion of the family - I ended thinking something quite different. This family was as surprised as everyone - you can see the absolutely pain and shame in their eyes.

    • @TerrySleuth
      @TerrySleuth 2 роки тому +17

      They're selling financial shares. Get in ground floor if you believe their innocent

    • @missfaztudo9312
      @missfaztudo9312 2 роки тому +16

      Aham, but the wife still enjoy the dirt money that Maddof made our of this.

    • @nosyrosie6947
      @nosyrosie6947 2 роки тому +13

      Like his father, he is an excellent liar.

    • @numbereightyseven
      @numbereightyseven 2 роки тому +2

      @@missfaztudo9312 Of course she does. Who wouldn't? YOU, for one.
      ... hypocrite.

    • @todaysrules6730
      @todaysrules6730 2 роки тому +8

      Don't believe them, especially the wife!

  • @barbaraschultz1442
    @barbaraschultz1442 2 роки тому +89

    I believe that she had no idea what her husband did. I had no idea what my husband did when I was a stay at home mom.

    • @alongfellow4147
      @alongfellow4147 Рік тому +5

      Same here, turns out he was with another woman

  • @hodell82
    @hodell82 2 роки тому +358

    What an unbelievably sad story. I think that Madoff's wife and two sons were completely innocent and unaware of Madoff's crimes. And especially sad for Ruth Madoff - both her sons are gone now and she has nothing to show for a life completely destroyed by one man.

    • @jaknap1
      @jaknap1 2 роки тому +49

      I don’t know about innocent. They all ignored what they didn’t want to know. We all have gut feeling when something is not right. The sons and wife were with this man for 20+ years and not once they felt something was wrong? I find that very hard to believe.

    • @4465Vman
      @4465Vman 2 роки тому +50

      theres LOTs of families where the spouse and kids dont really know what the father does specifically!! also if he keeps giving them gifts and millions theres even less motivation to suspect..they just rode the gravy train

    • @musicfanhawk4523
      @musicfanhawk4523 2 роки тому +26

      @@jaknap1 They weren't allowed to know! Even if asking him questions, his answers were vague and they knew to not be intrusive.Madoff was a terrible controlling person.just look how beat down his wife is.

    • @froggreen2067
      @froggreen2067 2 роки тому +4

      The sons are gone, where to?

    • @4465Vman
      @4465Vman 2 роки тому +4

      @@froggreen2067 one hung himself he was so distressed

  • @estela4791
    @estela4791 Рік тому +10

    My ex husband was also a psychopath, always wanting to do that illegal things to make money. This side of him I found out after we married. He even started selling drugs from our apartment. He was constantly stealing from me and borrowing money ( and not paying back people and they would go after me even though I never saw a penny of the borrowed money ). I was smart enough to snoop around and see more of the illegal stuff he was doing so I got out of our marriage as soon as I can. I never looked back. I think the wife and sons never knew what Bernie was doing. BM wanted them to NOT KNOW , probably figured that keeping his family in the dark made his family not legally guilty and so the law could not really go after them.
    .

  • @patrickb1938
    @patrickb1938 2 роки тому +73

    If you read his son's suicide note it will send a chill up your spine. They clearly didn't know.

    • @nygeek6471
      @nygeek6471 Рік тому +16

      I just scoured the internet and could only find that he left no suicide note, so what exactly are you referring to?

    • @dougiesherwin9591
      @dougiesherwin9591 Рік тому +7

      Even if there is a suicide note to read, it doesn't mean what he wrote is true. He should have been thinking about his wife and family, and that could lead him to lie. The kids knew.

    • @hcclean1160
      @hcclean1160 Рік тому

      @@nygeek6471 you clearly didn’t look hard at all. It was in the first result on google. It read “Bernie, now you know how you have destroyed the lives of your sons by your life of deceit. F-k you.“ (ny post article)

    • @eccomiatsf3676
      @eccomiatsf3676 Рік тому +2

      The other son certainly had no problem living way past his means, instead of returning it all back. Ignorance is not an excuse of the law.

    • @Ishbikes
      @Ishbikes Рік тому +1

      It was not suicide note. The guy who found his son wrote a letter that they read on tv. I thought the letter was disrespectful and disturbing. I still can’t believe they let him read that on tv

  • @Arrow-wv9ww
    @Arrow-wv9ww 2 роки тому +172

    Ruth, is a loyal Soul. Really sad that her son couldn’t cope with and ended his own life.
    Never harm yourself. ❤️

    • @DerSpielfuehrer
      @DerSpielfuehrer 2 роки тому +18

      She is still alive. And rich.

    • @josephbishara4791
      @josephbishara4791 2 роки тому +17

      Never harm yourself? You think it's better to live in pain. What if the pain is unbearable? It takes courage to end pain when pain becomes unbearable.

    • @phriedokra6158
      @phriedokra6158 2 роки тому +5

      Really harder for some religious Jews ...dont think he was that devout

    • @betsybabf748
      @betsybabf748 2 роки тому +10

      @@DerSpielfuehrer When one loses people, especially their child, alive and rich mean nothing but pain.

    • @betsybabf748
      @betsybabf748 2 роки тому +5

      @@josephbishara4791 Suicide doesn't end pain. It takes it, magnifies it by 1000s and gives it to the innocent people who love you, so no, one should never harm themselves and it is not courage. Living through pain to not give harder pain to loved ones is where one has courage.

  • @sheskates6551
    @sheskates6551 2 роки тому +17

    Nobody asks questions when the money is abundant

    • @rudyavila1825
      @rudyavila1825 2 роки тому

      EXACTLY!!! Even if they suspected something, it was in their best interest not to ask questions.

    • @zazubombay
      @zazubombay Рік тому

      That's right. And his investors didn't bother to question or investigate when they were getting higher returns than the rest of the market, did they?

  • @Rodmic-hd9pn
    @Rodmic-hd9pn Рік тому +216

    I am impressed by his humility,and honesty poor son

    • @toouniquetobe
      @toouniquetobe Рік тому +8

      Well rehearsed, advised by top lawyers, lifetime eduction to lie by his top liar father.

    • @peternwachukwu4857
      @peternwachukwu4857 Рік тому +33

      @@toouniquetobe I think his son is truly innocent

    • @spic0li
      @spic0li Рік тому +6

      LoL He was in on it too along with Mark. Please do some research before you pull out the violin 🎻comment

    • @dougiesherwin9591
      @dougiesherwin9591 Рік тому +4

      Except he's lying, which makes his "honesty," a delusion on your part.

    • @randomdude5938
      @randomdude5938 Рік тому +10

      @@dougiesherwin9591 except no one who has done any research actually thinks that.

  • @MC-vh7go
    @MC-vh7go 2 роки тому +17

    No remorse or even an apology for the victims. The wife was asked about it and gave a cursory answer and moved on. Even if you were unaware, you would apologize and feel remorse as these crimes came from your family. The entire piece was how it affected them.

    • @93Jubilee
      @93Jubilee Рік тому

      Absolutely! She just couldn't related to her family having anything to do with Prison? I have dear friends from Mississippi who went to prison for their work in the Civil Rights Movement -- to improve people's well-being, hardly to diminish them, like Bernie and Ruth Madoff! So despicable!

  • @gmamose9152
    @gmamose9152 2 роки тому +134

    That was such a great interview. I never knew much about the family of BM but I found them to be genuine. They've got a lot to heal from and I wish them well.

    • @sandrasmith5793
      @sandrasmith5793 2 роки тому +11

      Really what about the families that lost everything? I have no sympathy for them!

    • @dosman3458
      @dosman3458 2 роки тому +13

      Both sons died. It's just Ruth left.

    • @phriedokra6158
      @phriedokra6158 2 роки тому +3

      Bernie thought they would continue the grift perhaps?

    • @musicfanhawk4523
      @musicfanhawk4523 2 роки тому +11

      @@sandrasmith5793 I believe it has been documented that the people that invested got their money back! I'd say getting back ANY of the money is a win. His family suffered long after, and the sons died, wife left by herself.

    • @hiphopjewels
      @hiphopjewels 2 роки тому +2

      @@phriedokra6158 I wondered that too, but I doubt it. He only told his sons because he was broke and could not continue the scheme. He could not repay people, so it was definitely over, and he was about to be exposed. With no money, the sons would not have been able to continue anyway.

  • @christopherdaly1399
    @christopherdaly1399 2 роки тому +292

    Intense! Andrew and Ruth M. come off as credible. You can feel Andrew's searing rage against his father.

    • @danger26102
      @danger26102 2 роки тому +7

      He tried to redeem himself…he was earning a lot of money and can borrow millions of dollars with no collateral

    • @kyra_from_kerkyra
      @kyra_from_kerkyra 2 роки тому +29

      Agreed. They are victims, too. It's a tragedy that Mark took his life over his father's crimes.

    • @christopherdaly1399
      @christopherdaly1399 2 роки тому +23

      Let's not trot out too much sympathy for this mother son duo. They were awash in money. It had to have been suspicious but when your father is head of NASDAQ you don't suspect him of criminality.

    • @wduprevil
      @wduprevil 2 роки тому +24

      Andrew died of cancer in 2014

    • @taryn.b
      @taryn.b 2 роки тому +5

      @@wduprevil Oh no! I hadn't known that

  • @richardclegg5853
    @richardclegg5853 Рік тому +37

    I don't think she knew, but the devastating loss she's had to live through is so much worse than a life sentance even if she was aware of what he was up to... heartbreaking, seems like a lovely family

    • @tiararoxeanne1318
      @tiararoxeanne1318 7 місяців тому +3

      One of the key factors why his lies had went for about 30 years, more or less, is that he knew how to keep his mouth shut. And it started by keeping it secret from his own family.

    • @user-py5kg4yw1r
      @user-py5kg4yw1r 5 місяців тому

      She looks like a Madonna, may she still can go dance in Trump Tower 😮😅

    • @bobbyheenan4061
      @bobbyheenan4061 4 місяці тому

      She knew

  • @abeltesfaye_
    @abeltesfaye_ 2 роки тому +165

    Who I really feel bad for are Andrew and Mark. Andrew was a man of true integrity for holding his dad accountable and my heart breaks for his fiance. He even left over 5 million to his estranged wife... in my eyes, that shows that this man really was a beautiful soul. Possibly the only good thing Bernie did was having a son with as much integrity as Andrew (and Mark)

    • @jenniferlawrence9473
      @jenniferlawrence9473 Рік тому +28

      Yes, no matter what happened, they raised good children. At least that's a positive.

    • @dougiesherwin9591
      @dougiesherwin9591 Рік тому +12

      Sorry but no matter what anyone believes, it's clear Andrew and Mark knew the truth.

    • @starstruckstar2597
      @starstruckstar2597 Рік тому +22

      @@dougiesherwin9591 they did not know and all of the investigations proved that to be true.

    • @lesleybartlett7177
      @lesleybartlett7177 Рік тому +7

      I do believe they did not know. This interview was heartbreaking - my eyes kept leaking. This lady really loved this man. I hope she finds interests that will make her feel her life is worth something again. Her son has obviously been brought up with integrity and self worth. Maybe she could be a wonderful influence on children somewhere, maybe with children in care or something, l finished reading this liking her immensely.

    • @dougiesherwin9591
      @dougiesherwin9591 Рік тому +1

      @@starstruckstar2597 His sons ran the trading desk where he allegedly did his trades. He did no trades at all. They had to know.
      And btw, that desk was known on wall street for cheating its customers, front-running etc. Goldman Sachs refused to trade with MADF. So did the desk where my hedge fund was domiciled.
      His sons knew he was a crook; no investigation could possibly prove otherwise.

  • @Blonde111
    @Blonde111 2 роки тому +42

    Since this clip, Andrew has died from cancer. Horrendous what this man did to his family.

    • @RobertLeBlancPhoto
      @RobertLeBlancPhoto 2 роки тому +8

      Horrendous what he did to investors.

    • @danielan962
      @danielan962 2 роки тому +3

      if you want to be extremely wealthy, prepare to destroy people's lives, because if you won't someone else will

    • @AllIsWellaus
      @AllIsWellaus 2 роки тому +4

      @@RobertLeBlancPhoto Yeah I'm pretty sure Helene would have been on agreement there. The family are victims, even more so than their father. He's locked away, they're out in the open where people can harass them. It was him that made this mess.

    • @debrachaney599
      @debrachaney599 2 роки тому +4

      Omw how sad what a tragedy.

  • @LC-pm2fy
    @LC-pm2fy 2 роки тому +31

    Beautifully produced piece, really crazy stuff

  • @BabyBear046
    @BabyBear046 Рік тому +14

    “I wouldn’t say that we sort of explicitly discussed values” that really says a lot, right there. My family explicitly discussed values often. And now that I’m married, my husband and I discuss our values explicitly and often. Your values affect your life every day. Obviously this is not the fault of the the Madoff children. I just can’t imagine raising children and not making the discussion of values a regular priority. That’s so sad.

  • @HouseofStaci
    @HouseofStaci 6 місяців тому +1

    Your content is amazing - no interruptions, no tipping callouts, cogent expert commentary. You do amazing work.

  • @hassanm.hassan4799
    @hassanm.hassan4799 2 роки тому +18

    Most people don't understand how overpowering greed can be. It can totally consume you.

    • @leeanncornell8305
      @leeanncornell8305 2 роки тому

      So true. Finding that out right now. 😔

    • @TREVASLARK
      @TREVASLARK 2 роки тому

      So you think that accumulating money for money's sake is the real reason ?
      Not the actual material things Madoff bought with it ?

  • @taryn.b
    @taryn.b 2 роки тому +21

    I didn't really appreciate the "Everyone is going to think...." questions because I hadn't thought any of them. It's COMPLETELY plausible that his wife knew nothing of his schemes. And the sons were shut out from their Dad's business so I believe Andrew.

  • @MasterKenfucius
    @MasterKenfucius Рік тому +5

    His son says "My life is an open book" but refuses to say how much he is worth. Open book my eye.

  • @elizabeth70700
    @elizabeth70700 Рік тому +26

    I feel most sorry for their sons who were innocent of most of this

  • @peterquinlan5469
    @peterquinlan5469 2 роки тому +6

    Ruth sounds like a heavy smoker.

  • @Pianofishdave
    @Pianofishdave 2 роки тому +24

    I think it’s clear they ALL felt things were a little “too good” and “oddly secretive”.

  • @zee-zm1io
    @zee-zm1io Рік тому +12

    I’m finding it hard to have empathy for the wife. She bailed him out! I’m really struggling with her.

    • @tiararoxeanne1318
      @tiararoxeanne1318 7 місяців тому

      I think I understand her. She might think a jail would be violent and scary like in the gangster movie. Her old age husband could die in that kind of jail. And Bernie was still in a house arrest after being bailed out.

  • @DanWilan
    @DanWilan Рік тому +3

    The sons wife seem quite prepared to say we were not involved and I'm nice person

  • @sophie9658
    @sophie9658 2 роки тому +13

    So sad, both sons dead, Bernie died in prison. Ruth must feel so alone. Greed is disgusting, i hope his victims were able to be reimbursed.

  • @johnwillard6198
    @johnwillard6198 2 роки тому +61

    I lost my brother tragically in March 15 2008, it’s devastating. This I know.

  • @freddyhoyt1849
    @freddyhoyt1849 Рік тому +25

    This is a sad interview I don’t know how someone could do this to so many people ruined their lives

  • @alking6633
    @alking6633 10 місяців тому +2

    IMPOSSIBLE the Immediate Family didn't know.

  • @Martinezalex007
    @Martinezalex007 2 роки тому +35

    It must be hard being Ruth right now. She lost everything literally overnight

    • @danger26102
      @danger26102 2 роки тому +10

      that’s not hers to enjoy… it’s not hers to begin with

    • @Martinezalex007
      @Martinezalex007 2 роки тому +5

      @@danger26102 i didn't mean the money... I meant her family

    • @tcla3854
      @tcla3854 2 роки тому +5

      She "lost" what was not hers. She's lying

    • @Martinezalex007
      @Martinezalex007 2 роки тому +2

      @Asherah 1147 you put allot into that for a UA-cam comment... Proud of yourself?

  • @Flair978
    @Flair978 2 роки тому +7

    Katherine should not be able to profit from the book as well.
    It should all be donated.

  • @michellecapp1523
    @michellecapp1523 Рік тому +101

    Heartbreaking for the family and victims. How could anyone believe they knew or blame the sons when they turned their own father in? Ruth breaks my heart to this day.

    • @93Jubilee
      @93Jubilee Рік тому +9

      RUth does not break my heart; it dOES seem like she should've known. My heart is with all the many less-monied victimes who suffered beucase of the Madoff Crimes.

    • @0T772
      @0T772 11 місяців тому

      I agree 1000% correct.

    • @kamman1374
      @kamman1374 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@93Jubileehow would she know.

    • @dr.barrycohn5461
      @dr.barrycohn5461 6 місяців тому

      Heartbreaking???

    • @hellothere4724
      @hellothere4724 6 місяців тому +1

      They knew… the mother was the bookkeeper at the beginning… she has a degree ..she knew. The sons also knew…they knew that the clients money went in the pot at Chase and they (sons) used some of that money for their projects. It was a family affair. The father tried to shield them from prosecution best he could.

  • @unbothered6357
    @unbothered6357 2 роки тому +11

    I remember when this scandal broke. Fifteen years really does fly

  • @kathleensumpf3715
    @kathleensumpf3715 2 роки тому +33

    Sending Blessings, I know what it’s like to have a parent betray u

  • @josephbishara4791
    @josephbishara4791 2 роки тому +40

    People like Bernie Madoff and Elizabeth Holmes have an incredible ability to lie to themselves.
    They really don't believe that they are doing anything wrong.

  • @jessenashvillejames150
    @jessenashvillejames150 Рік тому +14

    It breaks 💔 my heart how I can be so full of judgment sometimes... I truly believe them... God bless and I'm sorry for the loss of your brother and that you had to lose your father in such a way...

  • @beezlebub9
    @beezlebub9 Рік тому +15

    Having worked in family businesses, I absolutely believe that his sons didn’t know and were told this. 5:53

  • @higher_pwr8178
    @higher_pwr8178 2 роки тому +22

    "An endless stream of cash," the family lived the good life and didn't care where the money came from.

    • @Seeker0fTruth
      @Seeker0fTruth 2 роки тому +6

      But then what child knows or SHOULD know about their parent’s finances?

  • @Cris-hk4cn
    @Cris-hk4cn 2 роки тому +300

    I feel so sorry for the family. I don't know how a father could hurt his family so bad. Greed is satanic a act.

    • @mmb2211
      @mmb2211 2 роки тому +11

      And if the family got together that evening and the father told their kids to turn him in so it would look as if they new nothing about it? Family is family.

    • @danger26102
      @danger26102 2 роки тому +5

      Bernie was the goose that lays the golden egg

    • @capricemadrid5353
      @capricemadrid5353 2 роки тому +5

      Ruth had expectations

    • @lyndasheridan9018
      @lyndasheridan9018 2 роки тому +8

      Greed is human

    • @luisdeleon9819
      @luisdeleon9819 2 роки тому +20

      I feel for the people that Madoff victimized. His family not so much.

  • @LIONTAMER3D
    @LIONTAMER3D Рік тому +135

    his family believed what millions of other investors did: he was a trading genius of legendary proportions.

    • @dougiesherwin9591
      @dougiesherwin9591 Рік тому

      LOL. His sons ran the trading desk where he supposedly did his trades. Which desk, by the way, firms like Goldman Sachs refused to trade with because they were such obvious bandits. Madoff did no trades -- his sons had to know that he was lying.

    • @dougiesherwin9591
      @dougiesherwin9591 Рік тому +4

      LOL. He was clearly a schlemiel, a sort of nice guy with no special talents.

    • @natalieaustin8707
      @natalieaustin8707 Рік тому +7

      Sadly, I remember when this happened and the media treated the family absolutely awful! I felt so bad when the son committed suicide. They were fooled like everyone else.

    • @dougiesherwin9591
      @dougiesherwin9591 Рік тому

      @@natalieaustin8707 If you had worked on wall street, you would understand that the sons knew about the fraud, and benefitted greatly from the money their old man stole. You were fooled by the pretense they set up to pretend only Bernie knew. While it's possible, but highly improbable that Ruth had no clue -- remember she was an accountant and her father knew that Bernie was not capable of astute thinking -- the sons had to know.
      Bernie said he didn't charge commissions because he only traded on his own trading desk. That desk was run by his sons. HE DID NO TRADES!!! The sons who ran the desk had to know he did no trades.

    • @robertcunningham5043
      @robertcunningham5043 Рік тому +2

      You my friend, don't realize what a partner can keep secret. HAVE YOU EVER EVER BEEN MARRIED??? People keep lots of secrets in life in marriage and I actually believe Ruth and hope she has some how good life now.

  • @loveinspired7
    @loveinspired7 Рік тому +29

    My heart truly hurt for his sons. I'm thoroughly convinced that they had no idea what their father was doing.
    I truly admire how they immediately sought a lawyer for themselves and completely cut their father out of their lives within hours of their father's confession.
    I hate that Mark felt that suicide was his only option in the end.
    Now, Andrew is gone as well.
    I also feel bad for Ruth. She's all alone now.
    Bernie not only destroyed multiple families around the world, he even destroyed his own family.

    • @billrafajko4054
      @billrafajko4054 5 місяців тому

      I wasn't aware the BM's son had committed suicide. BM STOLE ALL MY MONEY but never knew the sons committed suicide. I pray that BM (bowl movement) goes directly to HELL. Does not pass go nor get's bribed by the good lord. EVIL EVIL EVIL EVIL EVIL EVIL EVIL EVIL EVIL EVIL EVIL EVIL EVIL EVIL EVIL EVIL EVIL EVIL MAN!

  • @LMae-rj9qi
    @LMae-rj9qi 2 роки тому +19

    Some people can get away with anything. That said, Madoff wasn't the first or the last to rip off people and lie their way to worldly "success." But I believe in forgiveness as hard as it can be to do.

  • @mdamico1909
    @mdamico1909 2 роки тому +21

    All I can do is stare at the sons face, he looks just like his father, no top lip, the hair. His father's image in himself must haunt him all the time. I know it would haunt me!!!

    • @hutzman7664
      @hutzman7664 2 роки тому +5

      He’s dead so not really.

    • @kathrynwitte3398
      @kathrynwitte3398 2 роки тому +1

      Research is your friend. He’s been dead since 2014.

    • @tireswing
      @tireswing Рік тому

      No top lip lmaoooo

  • @elhimmelstein1913
    @elhimmelstein1913 Рік тому +2

    wow how sad, one son commits suicide in 2010 and then 4 years later the other one dies of cancer. I'm so sorry for this lady :(

  • @isimonsez
    @isimonsez Рік тому +23

    I feel bad for Ruth... finding out her husband swindled people and losing a son to cancer and another to suicide. I believe they were unaware and even Bernie's secretary said the sons weren't allowed on the other floor...that's where the crimes were happening

    • @preciousone9377
      @preciousone9377 Рік тому +1

      Being told not to come on the 19th floor should’ve raised all sorts of red flags if you ask me.

  • @ingridlahaye8107
    @ingridlahaye8107 2 роки тому +19

    He fooled the whole world and it makes sense he fooled his family too....

  • @annabe9892
    @annabe9892 2 роки тому +37

    I am a victim of Madoff , but I feel some sorrow for the Son. V sad

    • @yohannesford
      @yohannesford 2 роки тому

      If you don’t mind, how much did you lose all in all?

    • @kathrynwitte3398
      @kathrynwitte3398 2 роки тому

      He’s been dead since 2014.

    • @rushrush6754
      @rushrush6754 2 роки тому

      He exploited greed in human

    • @raquelvlogzz1183
      @raquelvlogzz1183 Рік тому

      So sorry for for what happened to you.I also feel sorry for the sons.

    • @Johnny2Feathers
      @Johnny2Feathers Рік тому

      We’re you awarded damages ?

  • @TedApelt
    @TedApelt 2 роки тому +5

    That would be a big red flag to me if there was no plan for what to do with his business when he died.

  • @owefay1
    @owefay1 Рік тому +2

    The relatives of Madoff lived very, VERY comfortable lives after this happened. Stop feeling sorry for them.

  • @isaacdixon3732
    @isaacdixon3732 2 роки тому +8

    I think his wife stated to the court that she wanted to hold on to the penthouse they had in NYC. REALLY!!!

  • @DaKingisDead
    @DaKingisDead 2 роки тому +56

    Ruth said, 'I don't think I ever knew anybody that went to prison.' Imagine what kind of privileged life she's led.

    • @LeTrashPanda
      @LeTrashPanda 2 роки тому +7

      Betcha that Middle Class life she used to have looks pretty darn appealing right now....

    • @TheBestRoseinTexas
      @TheBestRoseinTexas 2 роки тому +2

      🎯

    • @colenexoxo8939
      @colenexoxo8939 2 роки тому +8

      @@LeTrashPanda She's still living well. More than most of us.

    • @DaKingisDead
      @DaKingisDead 2 роки тому +6

      @@colenexoxo8939 True that...and she wouldn't have tried suicide if she wasn't in the loop. They knew, the old man protected his family and took the hit.

    • @xiqueira
      @xiqueira 2 роки тому +16

      I'm not sure the majority of people know people who've gone to prison in middle class or upper class America. It isn't common in middle class or above. I was in my 30s before I knew of someone. Out of a population of US 333,0000 million, 5 million kids have had a parent in prison. That gives you an idea it isn't as common. Some communities u fortunately have more issues with inequality or lawlessness.

  • @5504berry
    @5504berry 2 роки тому +6

    He was a trader in his Fathers firm....enough said. The sons were traders and had to have seen the returns and questioned it.

    • @serenawilliams6138
      @serenawilliams6138 2 роки тому

      He didn’t work with his sons and he kept them at length deliberately to protect them. It’s the one humane thing he thought about. Bernie Madoff worked with a small coterie of cohorts and he was so compartmentalized (like many men like him are) that it’s far more likely that he kept his family separate from his unethical and horrible business practices. .

    • @5504berry
      @5504berry 2 роки тому +1

      @@serenawilliams6138 My point was, their knowledge of the trading process would have signaled something was off. Even if they didn't work in the office of their father, they still would have been aware of his reported success. Gage that against what activity they observed and a flag would have been raised. A fund the size of Bernie's would have taken a lot of resources human and otherwise.

    • @serenawilliams6138
      @serenawilliams6138 2 роки тому

      @@5504berry I’m not sure you’re right. I think when people are used to things being a certain way for a very long time, and assume that everything is on the up and up, they aren’t necessarily prone to question anything.

    • @beyourself2444
      @beyourself2444 Рік тому

      @@serenawilliams6138 Ok, right? That makes sense… NOT

  • @gypsyfirefly8009
    @gypsyfirefly8009 Рік тому +39

    I absolutely believe Ruth & feel for her. My God what she’s been through at her age.

  • @kimjones2056
    @kimjones2056 2 роки тому +28

    They may have not known what their father was doing but they benefited from it. They should return any money they took from their father. The true victims lost all their savings

    • @mmsmart1014
      @mmsmart1014 2 роки тому +2

      They all benefit from it. So true

    • @superelectric8834
      @superelectric8834 2 роки тому

      The victims are suckers. Its like loosing your money in Vegas. You loose you get list

  • @brettneuberger6466
    @brettneuberger6466 2 роки тому +24

    We all struggle, some more than others. Simply because some have/had money, doesn’t diminish their suffering. To believe otherwise is evidence of our own skewed notions about the value of money.
    My heart goes out to these people. Particularly the mother. Making it through such suffering, she’s earned my adoration.

  • @allthingsswahili6945
    @allthingsswahili6945 Рік тому +3

    So sad what he did, I really hope Ruth has peace in her last years on this earth ! People should leave this family alone now 😢

  • @ichoosetoloveagainandagain8760

    May God be with her now. May she have a new life..

  • @randibgood
    @randibgood 2 роки тому +149

    I don't feel that Mark or Andrew should have had to pay anything back or sell any possessions, I do feel that their mom should have had to forfeit everything that was acquired during the marriage. Clothes, furniture, houses, jewelry, cars, antiques, china, art, etc., basically anything that could be used to give the victims some bit of restitution. The high life this family lived, was paid for by all of the families that were swindled out of their money. Even if she didn't know, she certainly benefited from her husband's crimes. She certainly didn't deserve to keep ANY of that $10 million. Legal fees be damned. Refute all of your worldly possessions, give back the money you were trying to hide and you can have a public defender.
    Madoff stole from people and then used their money to pay for his legal defense when charged with the crimes he was more than guilty of. Talk about slapping your victims in the face with your entitlement.

    • @luisdeleon9819
      @luisdeleon9819 2 роки тому +12

      Mark and Andrew are dead but I feel their estates should pay back. Proceeds of crime are exactly that.

    • @randibgood
      @randibgood 2 роки тому +18

      @@luisdeleon9819 As memory serves, they were not at all a part of their fathers "organization". They had a wholly separate business, is that not correct? Why would they be responsible for their fathers crime? Or rather their estates? Everything, materially speaking, that came from their father, I can agree to. The jewelry passed down, etc., could go towards restitution. But not their personal wealth.
      That's like finding out someone was a serial killer after they died, and locking their grandchildren up-just so somebody pays for the crimes.

    • @The_Red_Pill__
      @The_Red_Pill__ 2 роки тому +13

      They made excessive amounts of money from their fathers crime-the excess should be returned. 🤷‍♂️

    • @randibgood
      @randibgood 2 роки тому +8

      @@The_Red_Pill__ How did they make money from what their father did?

    • @jaknap1
      @jaknap1 2 роки тому +12

      The money that the sons had belonged to all the victims so the money must be given back. I don’t care if the sons had to sleep in park bench. How do you execute 1000s of transactions a day and not suspect that they were fake? I’m not buying anything this son says. I can understand that the wife may not be aware.

  • @TheMacTownPoke
    @TheMacTownPoke 2 роки тому +40

    It is hard for Madoff's wife to justify staying under his spell after the truth came out. Her sons may have survived if she was able to see him for who he was. Madoff is a high IQ sociopathic narcissist and probably married her in-part due to her loyalty and manipulability, which he exploited even in prison. She was totally duped and must be in anguish now. Rest in Peace to Andrew and Mark Madoff, they did not deserve this terrible fate.

  • @sumnercottage4863
    @sumnercottage4863 Рік тому +4

    Can't believe this interview this people has no shame

  • @oswaldomayberry9260
    @oswaldomayberry9260 Рік тому +1

    She has a really soothing voice.

  • @tubegirl25
    @tubegirl25 2 роки тому +23

    I don’t think his family had anything to do with it. They seem like good people. A lot of people lead double lives and deceive their family for years. Look at the serial killers…no one ever knew.

  • @ingridlahaye8107
    @ingridlahaye8107 2 роки тому +5

    so much pain in her eyes....his too. I believe them..

  • @mandolindleyroadshow706
    @mandolindleyroadshow706 Рік тому +4

    He was greedy. His rich investors were greedy too. As someone of the working-class who has to work until I am 67, I have sympathy for none of them.

  • @skfanfanfan
    @skfanfanfan Рік тому +22

    I sympathized the wife and the sons (now both passed away) and their accounts of things seemed absolutely genuine and I totally understand why they never suspected. Have to understand that he is involved in a cut-throat business where firms and individuals often "hide or kept secret" proprietary information/analyses to gain an edge over competitions.
    What struck me the most is he used his sons as "human shields", as described by the younger son in the interview, to cover up the Ponzi Scheme. Before everything blew up, his sons must have the utmost respect, trust and admiration for a father like him who had attained such a high status in Wall Street.
    EVIL is the only word I can think of to describe this man.