I have to issue a public apology. I had commented before but I can't find it now, so I am posting a new comment. I was a non-believer and did not think that the trigger bar would make that much of a difference. But I tried one and WOW! What a huge difference. I did have to take a little off the over travel stop but now the trigger pull is smooth and predictable throughout each action. Single action reset travel is almost non-existent. Trigger brakes rack the slide, and as soon as you bring your finger out for the reset you get an audible and tactile click and you are right at the wall. Incredible. I haven't even installed the light weight skeletonized hammer or the 14 lb main spring yet, I can only imagine how sweet it's going to be. I will be buying three more soon.
Wow, I thought I'd tuned my LTT, but this upgrade makes the Beretta LTT feel better than my SRT triggers in my Sig Classic pistols! Great job engineering this upgrade!!!!
Just put this on per your instructions. Very simple and improved the reset significantly. The LTT that it is on needs nothing else now. Great job Ernest please keep up the good work and thank you for a great customer service and fine products. Please Build one for my PX4CC and PX4. Semper Fi Marine!
Just dropped an NP3 LTT Trigger bar in my 92G Elite LTT Centurion and it’s CRAZY how next level the already stellar trigger pull got. The reset is mind blowing. It’s even shorter and crisper than my Gray Guns SRT trigger in my p226 Legion which was until now the best reset on a DA/SA I had ever experienced. The break is mind blowing. And the overall consistent smoothness in double and single is unreal. Serious thanks and kudos to Ernest & Co for blowing my mind. Just ordered my 2nd LTT Trigger Bar for my 92X 👊😜
I had to stone off about 3thou for it to work on my 92 compact. If you don't have a crochet hook you can use a paperclip bent into a small hook. Excellent upgrade!
Hi Sir, I just bought this. Amazing product and great end results. I did not realize you are located in Gilbert AZ. I am in Tucson. I retired Active Duty Air Force after 25 years as a Weapons Specialist. I was stating overseas for the last 17 years, but was stationed at Luke AFB in Phoenix from 1992 to 1998. After I retired we decide to move back to AZ. Anyway, thank you for the amazing product. I do love my Berettas
Installed mine and all I can say is WOW!!!! The reset is like.....yeah!!!! Shooting my other limited gun tomorrow but will run the Beretta Sunday at the range. Thank you again LTT!!!
Just bought one the reset is so short now highly reccomend this $70 part if you own a beretta 92 the reset is shorter than my $2300 p226 x5, I'm impressed takes only like 5 minutes to install
My NP3 trigger bar was delivered to my house today. Installing it in my M9A3 asap. Picking up my 92 Compact NP3 tomorrow. You're the man Ernest. I will be buying from you again (and again... and again...)
Ernest Langdon , PX4s could definitely use some LTT magic trigger reset love if that is at all possible. I’m sure the TDA World would be most appreciative!
Guilherme Cavalcante Vieira , No, I don’t think so. Not much take up on a 92. Trigger does have some movement to the rear but it’s without tension. If you mean any trigger creep on SA the answer is an LTT TJIAB. Crisp, competition like 3.5 lb SA on mine after installing the LTT TJIAB.
Thank you dude. I was cleaning my beretta 92A1 and that trigger spring bar came out. I freaked out cause I didn’t know what it was or how to put back in
I didn't have the crochet hook so I made one with a paper clip using needle nos pliers and end cutting nippers. Worked like a champ. Need the crochet hook for the tool box for next time.
Just installed mine, took five minutes most of which was taking grip panel on and off and cleaning a bit while inside. It was a drop in fit to my legacy B92FS. Good news is the reset is unbelievable. Bad news is I now have to buy one for my backup B92FS and one for my PX4...
Was very disappointed. Until I realized I took out my old trigger bar and put it back in. Dont do this install half asleep lmao. This optimized bar is freaking crazy!
My cuz just put on in his 92 compact. I’m about to order one myself. I really want a M9A3 bad and the cabelas .22lr trainer and will need to mod those out with all this too. Thanks for the share ordering mine soon 🇺🇸
1st impressions today after getting to field test it. So fast it's like a Top Fuel Dragster. Much faster than my finger. Maybe Jerry Miculek could keep up with it.
Great part Ernest, easy to install and definitely improves the feel of the trigger. I especially noticed the stop on the reward travel of the trigger. My backup 92 has one of your triggers with the little boss on the back of the trigger to provide the stop function. Will this trigger interfere with one of these new bars? Thanks.
Dear sir, thank you for your video. I own a Beretta 98G LTT Elite, but both overtravel and reset are maybe just a bit too long. I would like to know if is it possible to buy from Italy the Langdon Tactical's "Optimized Performance Trigger Bar". Is overtravel and reset reduced by this new component? Also I would like to know if the procedure you explain at 3:31 is still needed to further correct overtravel and reset. Thank you very much!
@@ernestlangdon3075 Ordered an upgraded skeletonized elite II hammer from you guys ( Langdon Tactical ) , that was pre stoned to fit, thanks, now it works great. Next time I do an upgrade an American lanyard pin will pin ordered so I don’t have to use a punch to get it out.
I bought it for my 90two and it doesn't fit properly, it doesn't seem to be compatible since the grip is creating so friction to the proper movement of the trigger bar. Any suggestion?
So if any fitting needs to be done, it's all in the front of the bar's overtravel nub? There's no reason to touch any part of the rear of the bar, right?
I'm looking into ordering one your beautiful LTT's and I see you also offer a Wilson trigger bar. Is there a major difference with the optimized? Also being a lefty do you think my right hand will obstruct the bar at all using a two handed grip? Or would it just be an annoyance to have the bar reciprocating to and fro? Thanks!
The OP trigger bar gives you a little less overtravel and a huge reduction in reset. I know a lot of lefties that shoot the 92 and don't have issues. The trigger bar is under the grip panel, you would have to have your right hand in front of the grip of the gun to touch the trigger bar.
Ernest....If I install this on my Beretta's will they still keep their bullet proof reliability? Triggers on 92's are already some of the best but I would love making it top notch as long as I don't have to take any hit on the Beretta's toughness.
@@elonmusk8667 The new Black OP trigger bar is not polished because the DuraLube finish is too hard to polish or stone. It is very slick already and over 1600 Vickers in hardness. It makes for a much better finish and trigger bar than typical Melonite or Nitride finishes, which are easy to and need to be polished.
Use an India stone or a ceramic stone. Brownell's is the best source for these. Also, please watch our other video where you fit the hammer and not the trigger bar. It is a better easier way to fit the trigger bar to the gun.
I've got the trigger job in a bag (sans NP3 finish) installed on my 92x compact and have the issue described at the end of this video, is there a recommended stone to use to file down that bit on the trigger bar or is it just a general purpose gunsmithing stone I should be looking for? Thanks
I have a WC/Centurion with a Action tune. Everything breaks nice but on the SA reset... it resets past the wall. So it resets and there’s takeup and then the wall. Will this new trigger bar fix that?
That's how the Beretta's factory reset has always been. With this LTT Trigger Bar it will reset like a 1911 trigger. Once it clicks you will be right on the wall ready to fire again with no slack. It's insane how much better it is with this LTT Trigger Bar.
Should there be some wiggle in the trigger from side to side? Outer frame trigger bar does not stay flush to frame either, not bad but jumps out few mm when engagement of trigger? Normal? Thanks to anyone who responsed
Got this installed today at the range. The reset on this is unbelievable! And as it turns out, Beretta had a media day at the range and demonstrated their new 92x pistols. Mr. Langdon was in attendance. I am jealous that I did not get to go.
This is by far one of the WORST experiences I have ever dealt with. I bought their new trigger bar for my Beretta 92FS. They claimed it was a simple drop-in part and would not require a gunsmith fitting. (Spoke to them on the phone to confirm this prior to purchasing). Received the part. It was a simple install. The gun did not function, pull trigger and hammer won't fire in double action. Called for support. Their guy Jonah, didn't want to really spend much time with me and passed it off to Amy. Amy kept reminding me that they spend enough time trying to help me and if I want I can ship the gun out to Arizona for them to fit the part. (ARE YOU KIDDING ME?) She was completely rude and insolent and totally aloof to my concerns. I then find out she is actually the wife of the owner. To me, that makes her equally an owner. Who chooses to build their business in this manner? Maybe I'm sensitive to the customer service world more than others. I tell them no thanks, you gave me bad information, and an inferior part, so I'll just be sending this back for a full refund. They receive the part and deduct the shipping cost ($4.00), from my refund to make matters worse. You couldn't take the high road. Well, this may be the 2nd or 3rd time, in my life, I have had to post a negative review. But rest easy, cause they win the award for the most obnoxious people I've ever dealt with. It's so bad, that I will make every effort to cross-post this review and make everyone in the gun world know about these people. This will go on every Social Media Platform I can think of. You can keep the $4.00. This is more effective.
Basically you're posting "review" about how you don't know how to do minor fitting? News flash just about every good part for a gun needs to be fitted and the reason the factory parts are drop in and don't smooth the trigger out the same way is because they're mass produced to fit every gun. Maybe you should get a new hobby if you need a gunsmith to do something this simple. I don't blame them one bit for getting annoyed with a guy who acts like removing a small bit of metal from a custom part that is meant to be a CUSTOM fit to your gun is the end of the world.
@@RElover22 I've got a consumer news flash for you. If you are going to require fitting a part (which requires spending more money or have the tools/knowledge to do so), perhaps you need to make your potential consumer aware before the spend the money. Your ignorant argument isn't worthy of a response, yet I gave you one.
@@demetriosmirissis7769 It's funny that you're calling me ignorant when you're the one who is ignorant and you don't know anything about guns because you always assume a custom part needs minor fitting. Ernest is a Beretta 92 genius and i'd imagine he hasn't replied to you simply for the fact that it's obvious that you don't know shit about shit.
Damn. It isnt quite that easy on a 92xi with a frame mounted safety. Had to pull the safety out to get the trigger bar out. Then getting the safety back together with the left side detent is a pain in the butt.
Yes, the XI and other frame safety versions are quite a bit different, and that is the reason we charge more for that trigger job. They can be a real PIA to work on and takes quite a bit more time.
I have to issue a public apology. I had commented before but I can't find it now, so I am posting a new comment. I was a non-believer and did not think that the trigger bar would make that much of a difference. But I tried one and WOW! What a huge difference. I did have to take a little off the over travel stop but now the trigger pull is smooth and predictable throughout each action. Single action reset travel is almost non-existent. Trigger brakes rack the slide, and as soon as you bring your finger out for the reset you get an audible and tactile click and you are right at the wall. Incredible. I haven't even installed the light weight skeletonized hammer or the 14 lb main spring yet, I can only imagine how sweet it's going to be. I will be buying three more soon.
The recommended 1.75mm crochet hook really does make the trigger spring easier to manage.
Seriously this made a god-like trigger into something almost unbelievable. Thank you Ernest.
Thank you!
Wow, I thought I'd tuned my LTT, but this upgrade makes the Beretta LTT feel better than my SRT triggers in my Sig Classic pistols! Great job engineering this upgrade!!!!
Installed mine today, crazy short reset. Very smooth
Thanks!
Does it reduce pretravel when in SA?
Just put this on per your instructions. Very simple and improved the reset significantly. The LTT that it is on needs nothing else now. Great job Ernest please keep up the good work and thank you for a great customer service and fine products. Please Build one for my PX4CC and PX4. Semper Fi Marine!
Just dropped an NP3 LTT Trigger bar in my 92G Elite LTT Centurion and it’s CRAZY how next level the already stellar trigger pull got. The reset is mind blowing. It’s even shorter and crisper than my Gray Guns SRT trigger in my p226 Legion which was until now the best reset on a DA/SA I had ever experienced. The break is mind blowing. And the overall consistent smoothness in double and single is unreal. Serious thanks and kudos to Ernest & Co for blowing my mind. Just ordered my 2nd LTT Trigger Bar for my 92X 👊😜
I had to stone off about 3thou for it to work on my 92 compact. If you don't have a crochet hook you can use a paperclip bent into a small hook. Excellent upgrade!
What kind of stone???
@@michaellewis8159 A gunsmiths stone.
@@drysori where can I buy one?
Hi Sir, I just bought this. Amazing product and great end results. I did not realize you are located in Gilbert AZ. I am in Tucson. I retired Active Duty Air Force after 25 years as a Weapons Specialist. I was stating overseas for the last 17 years, but was stationed at Luke AFB in Phoenix from 1992 to 1998. After I retired we decide to move back to AZ. Anyway, thank you for the amazing product. I do love my Berettas
Installed mine and all I can say is WOW!!!! The reset is like.....yeah!!!! Shooting my other limited gun tomorrow but will run the Beretta Sunday at the range. Thank you again LTT!!!
This helped me tremendously. I have LTT trigger bars on every Beretta I own. Phenomenal difference in performance!
Just bought one the reset is so short now highly reccomend this $70 part if you own a beretta 92 the reset is shorter than my $2300 p226 x5, I'm impressed takes only like 5 minutes to install
My NP3 trigger bar was delivered to my house today. Installing it in my M9A3 asap. Picking up my 92 Compact NP3 tomorrow. You're the man Ernest. I will be buying from you again (and again... and again...)
Ernest, no words for the difference the LTT parts have made to my Elite I. Best I can say..Superb!!! Great work!
Just installed it. Totally sick. Reset is now better or as good as any pistol trigger I’ve stroked. Amazing. Thanks!
Thank you!
Ernest Langdon , PX4s could definitely use some LTT magic trigger reset love if that is at all possible. I’m sure the TDA World would be most appreciative!
@@martyedmondson8548 , does it reduce take up?
Guilherme Cavalcante Vieira , No, I don’t think so. Not much take up on a 92. Trigger does have some movement to the rear but it’s without tension. If you mean any trigger creep on SA the answer is an LTT TJIAB. Crisp, competition like 3.5 lb SA on mine after installing the LTT TJIAB.
Thank you dude. I was cleaning my beretta 92A1 and that trigger spring bar came out. I freaked out cause I didn’t know what it was or how to put back in
I didn't have the crochet hook so I made one with a paper clip using needle nos pliers and end cutting nippers. Worked like a champ. Need the crochet hook for the tool box for next time.
What a massive improvement!! Thank you for making outstanding products.
Just installed mine, took five minutes most of which was taking grip panel on and off and cleaning a bit while inside. It was a drop in fit to my legacy B92FS. Good news is the reset is unbelievable. Bad news is I now have to buy one for my backup B92FS and one for my PX4...
Was very disappointed. Until I realized I took out my old trigger bar and put it back in. Dont do this install half asleep lmao. This optimized bar is freaking crazy!
My cuz just put on in his 92 compact. I’m about to order one myself. I really want a M9A3 bad and the cabelas .22lr trainer and will need to mod those out with all this too. Thanks for the share ordering mine soon 🇺🇸
Mine will be here today!!!!
Put mine in a 96A1 in record time. Reset is phenomenal
1st impressions today after getting to field test it. So fast it's like a Top Fuel Dragster. Much faster than my finger. Maybe Jerry Miculek could keep up with it.
Great part Ernest, easy to install and definitely improves the feel of the trigger. I especially noticed the stop on the reward travel of the trigger.
My backup 92 has one of your triggers with the little boss on the back of the trigger to provide the stop function. Will this trigger interfere with one of these new bars?
Thanks.
Still awaiting a video on installing Fugly levers on the Storm.
It's on the list.
Dear sir, thank you for your video. I own a Beretta 98G LTT Elite, but both overtravel and reset are maybe just a bit too long. I would like to know if is it possible to buy from Italy the Langdon Tactical's "Optimized Performance Trigger Bar". Is overtravel and reset reduced by this new component? Also I would like to know if the procedure you explain at 3:31 is still needed to further correct overtravel and reset. Thank you very much!
Mine works great, and it was easy to put in my M9A1
Did you have to file anything? Did you go with the steel color or black Trigger bar?
What models need to be filed? I have a 2017 Italian made inox 92fs.
It varies from gun to gun. Less than 5% of all 92s we see need to be fitted.
@@ernestlangdon3075 ok thanks. 👍
@@ernestlangdon3075 update: installed trigger bar and works perfectly. Thanks again.
Doesn’t plug and play in my Italian made Berretta 92fs, no double action, have to take material off the hammer.
The fitting does seem to be more common on the Italian made guns.
@@ernestlangdon3075 Ordered an upgraded skeletonized elite II hammer from you guys ( Langdon Tactical ) , that was pre stoned to fit, thanks, now it works great. Next time I do an upgrade an American lanyard pin will pin ordered so I don’t have to use a punch to get it out.
Outstanding!
I bought it for my 90two and it doesn't fit properly, it doesn't seem to be compatible since the grip is creating so friction to the proper movement of the trigger bar. Any suggestion?
Will this improve the trigger in my Wilson Combat Brigadier?
After digging around, 1.75mm is a No. zero.
Or get your needle nosed pliers and make a hook from a paper clip.
So if any fitting needs to be done, it's all in the front of the bar's overtravel nub? There's no reason to touch any part of the rear of the bar, right?
Why does the LTT OP trigger bar not have a notch for firing pin block? Does not having this notch change any of the functionality of the gun?
No, it doesn't.
I'm looking into ordering one your beautiful LTT's and I see you also offer a Wilson trigger bar. Is there a major difference with the optimized? Also being a lefty do you think my right hand will obstruct the bar at all using a two handed grip? Or would it just be an annoyance to have the bar reciprocating to and fro? Thanks!
The OP trigger bar gives you a little less overtravel and a huge reduction in reset. I know a lot of lefties that shoot the 92 and don't have issues. The trigger bar is under the grip panel, you would have to have your right hand in front of the grip of the gun to touch the trigger bar.
Ernest....If I install this on my Beretta's will they still keep their bullet proof reliability? Triggers on 92's are already some of the best but I would love making it top notch as long as I don't have to take any hit on the Beretta's toughness.
Thanks!! Rich
In the LTT Trigger Job in the bag, are all the parts polished and hand-stoned ?
Yes
Ernest Langdon I purchased the Beretta 92 LTT Trigger In a Bag, the LTT trigger bar isn’t polished or stoned.
@@elonmusk8667 The new Black OP trigger bar is not polished because the DuraLube finish is too hard to polish or stone. It is very slick already and over 1600 Vickers in hardness. It makes for a much better finish and trigger bar than typical Melonite or Nitride finishes, which are easy to and need to be polished.
Ernest Langdon hi Ernest,can ) order online your optimized trigger bar from Italy country,please?Thank’s for your kind and best regards!
LTT Trigger Bar is the easiest upgrade ever on a pistol trigger. Try it; you'll buy it.
I just bought a brand new 92FS and it has the slot on the trigger bar pin. Did I get an old gun?
That is standard on all newer guns. Older guns did not have that slot.
@@ernestlangdon3075 I feel really stupid, I must have gotten it backwards. Thank you for replying
Please these need to go back in stock
Quick question, what stone should I use for the fitting? I honestly have no idea haha
Use an India stone or a ceramic stone. Brownell's is the best source for these. Also, please watch our other video where you fit the hammer and not the trigger bar. It is a better easier way to fit the trigger bar to the gun.
I've got the trigger job in a bag (sans NP3 finish) installed on my 92x compact and have the issue described at the end of this video, is there a recommended stone to use to file down that bit on the trigger bar or is it just a general purpose gunsmithing stone I should be looking for? Thanks
Should I put it on the M9?
yes.
Is the trigger bar compatible with the single stack mags Ca model berreta 92fs
It is not compatible with the Single Stack versions of the 92. That uses many different parts in the frame of the gun.
Does the beretta 92sf brigadier come standard with this optimized trigger bar already ?
No, it does not.
This works with 92x performance as well correct?
Everyone knows if it works in a Taurus PT92? Tks...
It does not work in the PT92. Even though it is a very similar gun, almost none of the parts interchange.
Any chance on getting these made for individual purchase on the PX4's?
hummm, maybe soon.
TIP: A bent paperclip works if your wife doesn't crochet.
I have a WC/Centurion with a Action tune. Everything breaks nice but on the SA reset... it resets past the wall. So it resets and there’s takeup and then the wall. Will this new trigger bar fix that?
That's how the Beretta's factory reset has always been. With this LTT Trigger Bar it will reset like a 1911 trigger. Once it clicks you will be right on the wall ready to fire again with no slack. It's insane how much better it is with this LTT Trigger Bar.
nacsmxer the other thing I haven’t heard mentioned is; how is the DA pull?
@@d.j.stokes5726 The DA is just as smooth as before, just with less overtravel at the end when the hammer drops.
Yes, with this trigger bar, once the trigger resets, you are prepped and sitting on the sear. The is no take-up after reset.
Ernest Langdon thanks Ernie! Just ordered one!
You’re going to make me spend more money .....too late I already did at your store .!
Should there be some wiggle in the trigger from side to side? Outer frame trigger bar does not stay flush to frame either, not bad but jumps out few mm when engagement of trigger? Normal? Thanks to anyone who responsed
Yes, that is normal. Varies from gun to gun. Please use contactus@langdontactical.com as this is not a good format for customer service.
"NOTE: This trigger bar will not work in the 92S!" how about a 92SB Compact?
It should work fine in an SB.
Does this also work for the 96?
Yes, it will work on the 96.
Does it work in a 92sf?
I don't know what a 92SF is. Did you mean 92FS? If so, then yes, it does work in the FS.
Wow
Does this work with the D spring? (I have a 92G). When I installed the trigger bar, the DA feels heavier, but it may just be me.
Should work fine with a D model hammer spring.
I tried it again. Works great.
Literally a tiny difference made a huge one
I need to install mine but ...I have a stripped grip screw. Aaagghh
Got this installed today at the range. The reset on this is unbelievable! And as it turns out, Beretta had a media day at the range and demonstrated their new 92x pistols. Mr. Langdon was in attendance. I am jealous that I did not get to go.
That's a pain in the.......
This is by far one of the WORST experiences I have ever dealt with. I bought their new trigger bar for my Beretta 92FS. They claimed it was a simple drop-in part and would not require a gunsmith fitting. (Spoke to them on the phone to confirm this prior to purchasing). Received the part. It was a simple install. The gun did not function, pull trigger and hammer won't fire in double action.
Called for support. Their guy Jonah, didn't want to really spend much time with me and passed it off to Amy. Amy kept reminding me that they spend enough time trying to help me and if I want I can ship the gun out to Arizona for them to fit the part. (ARE YOU KIDDING ME?) She was completely rude and insolent and totally aloof to my concerns. I then find out she is actually the wife of the owner. To me, that makes her equally an owner. Who chooses to build their business in this manner? Maybe I'm sensitive to the customer service world more than others.
I tell them no thanks, you gave me bad information, and an inferior part, so I'll just be sending this back for a full refund. They receive the part and deduct the shipping cost ($4.00), from my refund to make matters worse. You couldn't take the high road.
Well, this may be the 2nd or 3rd time, in my life, I have had to post a negative review. But rest easy, cause they win the award for the most obnoxious people I've ever dealt with.
It's so bad, that I will make every effort to cross-post this review and make everyone in the gun world know about these people.
This will go on every Social Media Platform I can think of.
You can keep the $4.00. This is more effective.
Very simple install. Takes less than 5 minutes. Even did mine sitting on the t.... ,um in the library.
Did you not watch towards the end of the video where he talks about the double action pull?
Basically you're posting "review" about how you don't know how to do minor fitting? News flash just about every good part for a gun needs to be fitted and the reason the factory parts are drop in and don't smooth the trigger out the same way is because they're mass produced to fit every gun. Maybe you should get a new hobby if you need a gunsmith to do something this simple. I don't blame them one bit for getting annoyed with a guy who acts like removing a small bit of metal from a custom part that is meant to be a CUSTOM fit to your gun is the end of the world.
@@RElover22 I've got a consumer news flash for you. If you are going to require fitting a part (which requires spending more money or have the tools/knowledge to do so), perhaps you need to make your potential consumer aware before the spend the money. Your ignorant argument isn't worthy of a response, yet I gave you one.
@@demetriosmirissis7769 It's funny that you're calling me ignorant when you're the one who is ignorant and you don't know anything about guns because you always assume a custom part needs minor fitting. Ernest is a Beretta 92 genius and i'd imagine he hasn't replied to you simply for the fact that it's obvious that you don't know shit about shit.
Damn. It isnt quite that easy on a 92xi with a frame mounted safety. Had to pull the safety out to get the trigger bar out. Then getting the safety back together with the left side detent is a pain in the butt.
Yes, the XI and other frame safety versions are quite a bit different, and that is the reason we charge more for that trigger job. They can be a real PIA to work on and takes quite a bit more time.