That's awesome, I looked at building bass speakers using 12" pvc pipe, and then for satellites using 6" pvc, you can get both sizes at Lowes, you've encouraged me to do that project someday.
Consider using a 2.25" hole saw to cut the ports in a round shape instead of making them square. The area of the ports will be almost exactly the same as the 2" squares.
That simple of a crossover doesn't protect the tweeter from lower frequencies. The tweeter, being the more delicate component, will easily be damaged when attempting to reproduce sounds that are lower in frequency.
Dylan Wampler Not New! I did this in 1978! It was called "THE CONGRESSIONAL SUBWOOFER". It used a 4" driver in a PVC toilet flange. coupled to a bunch of 4" PVC elbows, in a spiral pattern! OLD IS NEW! :)
Found your videos by accident but LOVE homemade projects like this! Going to build some with my 13yo son! Just curious what your parts cost was for this particular set?
About $30.00 for the PVC components. The tweeters are about$4.00 each and the woofers were $30.00 each. However you can find 5.25 inch woofers much cheaper on line at parts-expess.com. some as low as $8.00 on sale.
Do you know of an online calculator that will account n calculate for both pipe diameter and length to determine optimum bass for a given driver? thanks.
@@anandshah71 Thanks for you reply. I hope to do some more videos soon. Most of my projects have been published in Audio Xpress Magazine . You might be able to find back issues on their site. Look for my FACEBOOK page and messenger me there and I can send you a few in PDF fog mat. facebook.com/kenneth.bird.33
I just bought a set of speakers to replace the old ones in a pair of ( 11 X 14 X 30 ) cabinets. The woofers are 12". I wonder if I should trash the cabinets and build some tube enclosures. Not sure where I could buy some PVC pipe that big. I know they make them in sizes that large because I have seen them. I wonder how much better the sound would be and if it would be worth the expense and effort.
I don't know about PVC pipe in that diameter, but look for the very heavy paper forms used for pouring columnar concrete footings. One common brand is Sonotube, and you can Google that name for more info.
You can get 12" PVC but it is expensive and heavy. The cardboard Tubes for making concrete pillars would work as they are of thick wall construction. I've never tried them but others have.
Interesting idea but how do you mount them? Better just to use dimensional lumber 1X6 for 4" . Use 1X4 for the sides and stuff well with polyester. No port needed, use with a sub woofer for bass. Two slim towers will give great imaging. .
No one has developed such a calculator as yet and it would not be easy to do so. Suggest you look for a copy of David Weems book, "Building And Testing Your Own Speaker Systems." It' s out of print but you may find copies at Amazon. He has a chapter on building pipe speakers that can serve as a guideline.
Ken Bird Ken, in the 70's, There was a configuration called "THE CONGRESSIONAL SUBWOOFER". It was a 4" fullrange driver fitted in a toilet flange. coupled to a series of Quarter turn 4" PVC elbows. I made one in 1978! It had amazing bass response. It was bascically a folded horn, like A KLIPSCH HORN. You could call it a Klipsch mini-me. :)
You are correct, it is just that. I think you remember what "That tube sound" really means, as do I. We're about 10 yrs apart, but I think we are in sync about speaker technology. I can still remember buying raw drivers from Radio Shack and Lafayette Radio. I also remember "Radio Row 45th st" The original on lower Manhattan was a little before my time. But I have been to canal street many times from the mid 70's and 80's.
When I worked in the consumer electronics industry I would get raw drivers as samples from the manufacturers. Had quite a collection in those days. McGee Radio was another good source for speakers. Today Part Express, and MCM offer some good products. If you want high end Madisound is the go to place. I have a number of tube amps in my collection, some of which I built my self. Tubes are OK and they played a great role in the development of audio, but today's Class D amps are great also and they save a lot more energy.
Actually, it is called a sanitary tee. I'm not a plumber, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night. This is also what the abs fitting was called I used in my own pipe speaker project. a Y fitting looks more like the letter Y.
But what about plastic cones for drivers? How is that any different? The thickness of the PVC makes for very rigid housing (no resonance from movement). Look at the B&W Nautilus speakers. They use a lot of resin with the fiberglass (no resonance from movement).
Good point Durst. I've even used heavy cardboard and foam sheets for prototype enclosures. A five gallon plastic bucket also makes a good sub woofer enclosure.
To make the ulimate subwoofer I buried a 45 gallon drum 6' from the outside wall, used a 24" woofer, 120lb. Cut a 4' hole in the wall and made a cement horn to match the opening to the speaker.
That's awesome, I looked at building bass speakers using 12" pvc pipe, and then for satellites using 6" pvc, you can get both sizes at Lowes, you've encouraged me to do that project someday.
The 12" pipe would open up more possibilities for a ten or 12 inch subwoofer. Good luck with it.
You are my kind of guy! Nice projects, the kind of stuff I like doing in my spare times, I wish we where neighbors.
Thanks for you comment. I also write for Audio Xpress magazine at times and you can check it out at audioxpress.com
Consider using a 2.25" hole saw to cut the ports in a round shape instead of making them square. The area of the ports will be almost exactly the same as the 2" squares.
It's always been in the pipeline. Always been a pipe-dream to make pipe speakers.
Thanks Howard, and they are fun to build.
That simple of a crossover doesn't protect the tweeter from lower frequencies. The tweeter, being the more delicate component, will easily be damaged when attempting to reproduce sounds that are lower in frequency.
Great how to video. Thanks for posting.
это жэ чвертьволновик! просто и без фанеры! УРАА эта пабеда!
You are correct! 1/4 wave.
@@klbird TQWP. Как они звучат, почему нет видео прослушки?
very nice speaker project... great instructions also
Never had a failure yet. 1st order crossovers a easier to build and don't have the phase shift issues that second systems do.
Great video it's such a good idea thanks a lot for sharing
Wow! New sub here, just stumbled onto this. Really cool stuff.
Dylan Wampler Not New! I did this in 1978! It was called "THE CONGRESSIONAL SUBWOOFER". It used a 4" driver in a PVC toilet flange. coupled to a bunch of 4" PVC elbows, in a spiral pattern! OLD IS NEW! :)
Dlyan. How about sharing it on U Tube??
Ken Bird I am looking for the plans now! Your plans are great! :)
Let's make this clearer, I am a new subscriber. Lol 😂 not a new subwoofer.
Dylan Wampler Wocka, wocka... :)
Found your videos by accident but LOVE homemade projects like this! Going to build some with my 13yo son!
Just curious what your parts cost was for this particular set?
About $30.00 for the PVC components. The tweeters are about$4.00 each and the woofers were $30.00 each. However you can find 5.25 inch woofers much cheaper on line at parts-expess.com. some as low as $8.00 on sale.
Very cool!
Proven and tested .cheapest way to custom tune small speakers for big effect.
Do you know of an online calculator that will account n calculate for both pipe diameter and length to determine optimum bass for a given driver? thanks.
What about the Phase coupling on LF, of the bass reflex Pipe?, you check the measuring for that?
No. I did no measurements on phase.
Super video will surely try to build one
Also is there a difference in uPvc pipes vs normal PVC pipes
Yes you need the heavier walled schedule 40 PVC. The thin wall is resonant and will vibrate causing distortion. Have fun with the build.
Ken how come no videos. I actually wish you share your tremendous knowledge in speaker building
@@anandshah71 Thanks for you reply. I hope to do some more videos soon. Most of my projects have been published in Audio Xpress Magazine . You might be able to find back issues on their site. Look for my FACEBOOK page and messenger me there and I can send you a few in PDF fog mat. facebook.com/kenneth.bird.33
how do u replace the aux jack
I just bought a set of speakers to replace the old ones in a pair of ( 11 X 14 X 30 ) cabinets. The woofers are 12". I wonder if I should trash the cabinets and build some tube enclosures. Not sure where I could buy some PVC pipe that big. I know they make them in sizes that large because I have seen them. I wonder how much better the sound would be and if it would be worth the expense and effort.
I don't know about PVC pipe in that diameter, but look for the very heavy paper forms used for pouring columnar concrete footings. One common brand is Sonotube, and you can Google that name for more info.
You can get 12" PVC but it is expensive and heavy. The cardboard Tubes for making concrete pillars would work as they are of thick wall construction. I've never tried them but others have.
PVC pipe can be puchased up to 48". That is pipe and all the fitting, at irrigation wholesalers.
How about a line array using pvc and smaller speakers?
Interesting idea but how do you mount them? Better just to use dimensional lumber 1X6 for 4" . Use 1X4 for the sides and stuff well with polyester. No port needed, use with a sub woofer for bass. Two slim towers will give great imaging.
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Where did Part 1 go? Could you list the scrolling info?
Sorry Ethan. The 1st edition was scrapped due to a video technology problem.
Are the speakers wired in parallel, or series for the cap. Simple schematic would be nice.
Speaker are wired in parallel with the cap in series with the tweeter.
Got it, thanks.
You need to match the tube size to the speaker. 5" speaker needs a 6" pipe.
Has anyone built this and if so how does it sound
Judging from reaction over the years many have been built by viewers and they seem to like the sound.
What is the exact wiring connection for the capacitor? Thanks.
The capacitor is attached from the positive speaker lead to the positive terminal of the tweeter.
Does the Capacitors' negative connect to the negative banana and speakers negative?
Where's the audio test men????
sound woulda been cool ,icabarreck tube chamber grandpa
No one has developed such a calculator as yet and it would not be easy to do so. Suggest you look for a copy of David Weems book, "Building And Testing Your Own Speaker Systems." It' s out of print but you may find copies at Amazon. He has a chapter on building pipe speakers that can serve as a guideline.
Ken Bird Ken, in the 70's, There was a configuration called "THE CONGRESSIONAL SUBWOOFER". It was a 4" fullrange driver fitted in a toilet flange. coupled to a series of Quarter turn 4" PVC elbows. I made one in 1978! It had amazing bass response. It was bascically a folded horn, like A KLIPSCH HORN. You could call it a Klipsch mini-me. :)
I never saw that project but sounds like it was just a folded version of the straight pipe design. I made my first PVC speaker in 1968 .
You are correct, it is just that. I think you remember what "That tube sound" really means, as do I. We're about 10 yrs apart, but I think we are in sync about speaker technology. I can still remember buying raw drivers from Radio Shack and Lafayette Radio. I also remember "Radio Row 45th st" The original on lower Manhattan was a little before my time. But I have been to canal street many times from the mid 70's and 80's.
When I worked in the consumer electronics industry I would get raw drivers as samples from the manufacturers. Had quite a collection in those days. McGee Radio was another good source for speakers. Today Part Express, and MCM offer some good products. If you want high end Madisound is the go to place. I have a number of tube amps in my collection, some of which I built my self. Tubes are OK and they played a great role in the development of audio, but today's Class D amps are great also and they save a lot more energy.
Ahh 1/3. Some Bose derivatives. :)
well done, except that is not a Tee. :D
Ok. Good
and the sound?
Juan. They sound fine, great imaging for stereo and adequate bass for most types of music. You may have to boost the bass a bit with your amp.
Juan Diaz
Y en español porfavor
looks great, but volume loss at the point you started stuffing the tube.
hanks for your comment Gayle. I now use a lapel mike, as the camcorder has a poor pick up beyond three or four feet.
no sound test? arrh come on..
No need to polystuff an enclosure that is ported.
Wrong!! If you don't stuff a transmission line enclosure you will get all the harmonics and it will sound like an empty barrel.
No sound what's the sense 😡
You can sell them for lot of money
I'm not in business. Just having fun!
Bose beat him to it.
Bose makes some fine speakers but most require their own equalization circuits to work well.
It's an awesome hobby, by the way. I love this kind of stuff.
you couldn't spent another 30 seconds to let us hear the sound....thumbs down
OK guys. The next video will have some sound.
for real and almost towards the end of the video you mention it.
it's a y pipe not a t pipe
Thanks for the update.I failed plumbing 101
Lol it's ok I am a plumber lol I love the pipes though cause I also love audio!!!!😁
Actually, it is called a sanitary tee. I'm not a plumber, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night. This is also what the abs fitting was called I used in my own pipe speaker project. a Y fitting looks more like the letter Y.
Using plastic for acoustics, is like using lead pipes for plumbing. Not only is it wrong but the end result on both is horrible :-)
Well, lead pipes will poison you, but PVC audio can be subjectively quite pleasing.
But what about plastic cones for drivers? How is that any different? The thickness of the PVC makes for very rigid housing (no resonance from movement). Look at the B&W Nautilus speakers. They use a lot of resin with the fiberglass (no resonance from movement).
Good point Durst. I've even used heavy cardboard and foam sheets for prototype enclosures. A five gallon plastic bucket also makes a good sub woofer enclosure.
Actually, using plastic for acoustics is like using plastic for plumbing. It is a lighter, stronger, economical option.
To make the ulimate subwoofer I buried a 45 gallon drum 6' from the outside wall, used a 24" woofer, 120lb. Cut a 4' hole in the wall and made a cement horn to match the opening to the speaker.