I was fortunate enough to see the Anthrax/Public Enemy/Primus show at the VBCC in Huntsville AL back in 1991. That combination of bands on one ticket was incredible to see in AL. Thank you guys for the show.
The 90s was all about alternative rock. It was hard competition for metal as far as the U.S. scene goes. In the late 90s, nu metal brought metal back into the mainstream conscious. It was the biggest gateway genre that brought millions of alt rock fans, rap fans into metal. Then the NWOAHM started to breakthrough in 2003-04 and those years weren't that great because majority of those bands had shitty vocalist and it just wasn't the same. I hated those years.
Bands went from jumpdafuckup chugging riffs from the nu metal era with rappers to Gothenburg inspired riffing and melody with metalcore. The fusion with hardcore too gave us some interesting bands as well.
Metal in the 90's was strong in Europe with Black Metal and Swedish Death Metal, hate the thought of Scott thinking like if it didn't happen in the States it didn't happen anywhere. That European movement made Metal stronger more than whatever came up from the States at that time
but the predecessor M.O.D was kinda racist. Still love Anthrax, Public Enemy, S.O.D and M.O.D but we have to be honest about the message in the content and the way those lyrics could engage racists.
Ok, SOD was before MOD. That is not the point. satire or not, its a message that people who really have those beliefs identify with & get fueled up on.
@S.D.C. Just to set the record straight - Scott Ian produced MOD's first album, and appeared sporadically on it. "Aren't You Hungry" was a re-hashed SOD song.
Pantera was just on a different career trajectory than the big 4 because the big 4 had been around longer and peaked earlier. those guys were all coming down off their big successes just as Pantera was hitting their stride. that allowed them to captiolize with the "double down"
+Maximiliano Because S.O.D was a tongue in cheek band.Read the freaking lyrics. Besides, if you think they are racist, then you MUST call out GNR, Public Enemy, Ice-T, NWA, Etc Etc Etc
+TheWarDog11 "The whole twenty-two minutes, or whatever it is, is just a big inside joke. And it worked; it fucking worked. And people… Well, not everybody, 'cause some people hated it. Some people thought we were racist, and those people are stupid". Read more at www.blabbermouth.net/news/scott-ian-on-stormtroopers-of-death-i-just-felt-like-we-did-too-much/#prWUsQhMf1fo4T0H.99 Phil defended his Nazi salute by saying it was an inside joke just like Scott Ian defended SOD. And Scott Ian even went as far as calling people stupid for calling him out on his racist inside jokes. They were funny to him and people around him with the same mentality. Nevertheless they were still racist jokes. So how can he stand there and call out Phil Anselmo and even go as far as demanding money with a straight face, and act like a victim when he did the same thing to other groups of people?
Maximiliano You have a valid point, no doubt, Ian is an ass in my opinion anyway. I love anthrax, but he is an ass. S.O.D wasn't racist if you actually paid attention back then and went to shows. I knew what they were saying was to make people talk. BUT you are right on the mark with Ian being a hypocrite. He is.
+Justin Fischer 6th grade insults to anyone who called out on Scott Ian on his hypocrisy? That validates our point even more. I still like Anthrax but that doesn't mean Scott Ian isn't a hypocrite.
@@YJ-ft7rb hmm... you're right... it´s doesn't sound racist at all. S.O.D Speak English or Die. You come into this country You can't get real jobs Boats and boats and boats of you Go home you fuckin' slobs Selling hot dogs on the corner Selling papers in the street Pushing, pulling, digging, sweating Where you come from must be beat You always make us wait You're the ones we hate You can't communicate Speak English or die You don't know what I want You don't know what I need Why must I repeat myself Can't you fuckin' read? Nice fuckin' accents Why can't you speak like me What's that dot on you head Do you use it to see? You always make us wait You're the ones we hate You can't communicate Speak English or die You always make us wait You're the ones we hate You can't communicate Speak English or die
I stopped going to Anthrax shows after Joey left the band. Me and all my friends in the early 90's when to harder music like Death, Obituary stuff like that. Actually I used to go see Machinehead and Burn the Priest/ Lamb of God. At the small shows where only 30 people would show up. But I still listen to Anthrax records, I just didn't see their shows anymore.
+hinjurock I know, I was just talking about that era when he was gone I kind of lost interest. IDK why I just didn't care for John Bush at all and I hated Armored Saint.
sirluisray1974 Ah. Well, John Bush is one of my favorite Metal singers, and I loved Sound Of White Noise, even though it wasn't traditional Thrash Metal. And I've always been an Armored Saint fan as well - I grew up listening to them from the time their demos were first played on FM radio local music programs in LA.
+hinjurock Lol hey I still respect the man. Just not my cup of tea. Back then the more hard core extreme the better. I may have to try to listen to it now, taste do change.
Yeah things might have dropped off for Anthrax in the 90s because they weren't a huge act to begin with then Joey Ieft and that hurt them. But he shouldn't speak for Slayer because they were still filling up the places they were playing. They weren't playing the 12,000 to 15,000 seat arenas they were playing 5 to 7k capacity halls and filling them up. Anthrax and Megadeth tried to go mainstream and it backfired on them. Slayer had a hard-core dedicated following and they didn't disappoint them by trying be a commercial success like Anthrax and Megadeth did.
Tobakilacion im one o those guys who is stuck in the 90s lol. hmm i like witchery...cant think of much more in the last 10 years. suggest some to check out? i like from heroes to legends thats new as hell
Tobakilacion the fright. interesting reminds me of cancerslug my friend loves that kinda music. avatar a bit "singy" for me but i like the dudes makeup lol...before the dawn is the star here im gonna check more of this one out. my 2 fav metal bands are judas priest and merciful fate..so i guess im rlllly classic. modern music i turn more towards prog rock like vai and more into just checking out people playing experimental and prg shit to improve my own playing.
Scott Ian is an okay rythem guitar player. I loved anthrax growing up and was influenced more by Dan Spitz yet Scott Ian is not a bad rythem guitar player.
As an Anglophile and a metal head Anthrax are one my favorite thrash metal bands from the 80s the album I considered the best from anthrax is Among The Living Love all genres of metal I don’t see colour i just see great music being played
I never cared for anthrax anyway, they should not be part of the big four as they suck...leave the fourth place to either pantera, testament, obituary or even to something that fits with the true thrash metal criteria
That’s the dumbest shit. They’re in the “big four”. Not your best 4. It’s about their influence and record sales. Pantera and obituary aren’t even thrash bands
If he only cared about money he probably would of just become a banker. Not play in bands in under ground clubs most of his life. He has built a legacy and made some money but it was no picnic, not for any of the thrash metal bands. They where marginalized robbed and banned in some cities.
eh....Attack of the Killer Bees was more or less an " experimental" album. A lot of bands tried combining rap and metal. Body Count succeeded ( for a short while). Bio-Hazard was the last to try ( same short life span.) The formula just doesn't work. Almost as bad as Kid Rock mixing rap and country music....which was a sick joke.
+Weird but Creative there was never anything metal about body count, they could barely qualify as punk rock. my moms cat can play guitar better than that.
Uh oh . . . looks like Jesse's goin' for the ol' antisemitic number. Bam! Ironic that you would know anything about Woody Allen, but then again, you're a joke, so there is some synchrony in all of this..
0:00 --> His memoirs; 1:28 --> Racism; 3:22 --> Metal's health
I was fortunate enough to see the Anthrax/Public Enemy/Primus show at the VBCC in Huntsville AL back in 1991. That combination of bands on one ticket was incredible to see in AL.
Thank you guys for the show.
Also I think the opener before them was Young Black Teenagers. I think that is the band name.
Primus? 🤮
To the people bringing up Speak English Or Die, are you familiar with the term ‘satire’?
That wasn't satire
How convenient, Billy Milano is an out and out racist
Didn't he make an album called speak english or die?
Yes
And SOUND OF WHITE NOISE
Do you even know what white noise is?
@@integrity101 Wtf lol, do you even know what "white noise" is?
@@abrahamlincoln3826
🙄 yes.
The 90s was all about alternative rock. It was hard competition for metal as far as the U.S. scene goes. In the late 90s, nu metal brought metal back into the mainstream conscious. It was the biggest gateway genre that brought millions of alt rock fans, rap fans into metal. Then the NWOAHM started to breakthrough in 2003-04 and those years weren't that great because majority of those bands had shitty vocalist and it just wasn't the same. I hated those years.
Bands went from jumpdafuckup chugging riffs from the nu metal era with rappers to Gothenburg inspired riffing and melody with metalcore. The fusion with hardcore too gave us some interesting bands as well.
Volumesofdoom you should have spent the 90s listening to Alice in Chains. Their Dirt album is a masterpiece closer to metal than alternative.
Metal doesn't have to be mainstream to be "good"
True. Nu metal wasn’t as bad as people thought. Same with post grunge. Depends on the group I guess.
Fired from his own band...
He started to believe his own bs. Lol.
Metal in the 90's was strong in Europe with Black Metal and Swedish Death Metal, hate the thought of Scott thinking like if it didn't happen in the States it didn't happen anywhere. That European movement made Metal stronger more than whatever came up from the States at that time
Alex Salcedo Really?? Those murdering church burning retards did more for metal than PANTERA??😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😉😉😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
Black metal is terrible. Swedish death metal was great, and the Finnish scene was good too.
@@davedecker1725 yes
@Athanasius Contra Marxism for USA bands, yes
@@WarPigs413 that's your opinion, I respect that, is about facts
Funny scott ian was in a band called S.O.D and had an album called speak english or die with a title track
but the predecessor M.O.D was kinda racist. Still love Anthrax, Public Enemy, S.O.D and M.O.D but we have to be honest about the message in the content and the way those lyrics could engage racists.
M.O.D. came after S.O.D.
Ok, SOD was before MOD. That is not the point. satire or not, its a message that people who really have those beliefs identify with & get fueled up on.
Ben Hartje Only idiots would take those lyrics seriously, when they're obvious satire.
@S.D.C. Just to set the record straight - Scott Ian produced MOD's first album, and appeared sporadically on it. "Aren't You Hungry" was a re-hashed SOD song.
as far as I can remember thrash metal was not very much affected by the whole grunge thing, it was the hair bands that got flushed in the toilet.
+Jeremy Cubs yea we still listened to thrash with our grunge. both were very important
Pantera was just on a different career trajectory than the big 4 because the big 4 had been around longer and peaked earlier. those guys were all coming down off their big successes just as Pantera was hitting their stride. that allowed them to captiolize with the "double down"
Thrash was against the flashy hair metal movement since the beginning anyways...
I'm not sure how he can claim to be anti racist and have a band like SOD.
+Maximiliano Because S.O.D was a tongue in cheek band.Read the freaking lyrics. Besides, if you think they are racist, then you MUST call out GNR, Public Enemy, Ice-T, NWA, Etc Etc Etc
+TheWarDog11 "The whole twenty-two minutes, or whatever it is, is just a big inside joke. And it worked; it fucking worked. And people… Well, not everybody, 'cause some people hated it. Some people thought we were racist, and those people are stupid".
Read more at www.blabbermouth.net/news/scott-ian-on-stormtroopers-of-death-i-just-felt-like-we-did-too-much/#prWUsQhMf1fo4T0H.99
Phil defended his Nazi salute by saying it was an inside joke just like Scott Ian defended SOD. And Scott Ian even went as far as calling people stupid for calling him out on his racist inside jokes. They were funny to him and people around him with the same mentality. Nevertheless they were still racist jokes.
So how can he stand there and call out Phil Anselmo and even go as far as demanding money with a straight face, and act like a victim when he did the same thing to other groups of people?
Maximiliano You have a valid point, no doubt, Ian is an ass in my opinion anyway. I love anthrax, but he is an ass. S.O.D wasn't racist if you actually paid attention back then and went to shows. I knew what they were saying was to make people talk. BUT you are right on the mark with Ian being a hypocrite. He is.
+Justin Fischer 6th grade insults to anyone who called out on Scott Ian on his hypocrisy? That validates our point even more. I still like Anthrax but that doesn't mean Scott Ian isn't a hypocrite.
+Maximiliano S.O.D. was a "parody band"
This interview is better than the book.
Says the guy who wrote an album called “speak English or die”. Great album btw
Yep. Total pussy hypocrite
And SOUND OF WHITE NOISE
No. He wrote riffs on that album. Billy Milano wrote the lyrics. You got a beef, take it up with him.
i remember when he played guitar in the most racist metal band ive ever heard . Fighting racism lol
which band?
@@UltimateSteevil
SOD
SOD was provocative but not outright racist.
RIGHT????????
@@YJ-ft7rb hmm...
you're right... it´s doesn't sound racist at all.
S.O.D
Speak English or Die.
You come into this country
You can't get real jobs
Boats and boats and boats of you
Go home you fuckin' slobs
Selling hot dogs on the corner
Selling papers in the street
Pushing, pulling, digging, sweating
Where you come from must be beat
You always make us wait
You're the ones we hate
You can't communicate
Speak English or die
You don't know what I want
You don't know what I need
Why must I repeat myself
Can't you fuckin' read?
Nice fuckin' accents
Why can't you speak like me
What's that dot on you head
Do you use it to see?
You always make us wait
You're the ones we hate
You can't communicate
Speak English or die
You always make us wait
You're the ones we hate
You can't communicate
Speak English or die
Can anyone tell me who SOD are? Never heard of them. Not big on Anthrax tbh but i see in the comments about SOD??
+Stu 666 SOD is a punk band, look up "Bubble Butt" "Balad Of Jimmy Hendrix" Etc. They're funny
Bubble butt is NOT S.O.D. It's MOD same singer different band. None of the anthrax guys play on MOD
This guy thinks he's so much better than he is.
I don't see that in him at all... 🙄
I think you just dont like him and don't like the fact that he's as big as he is
He’s probably much better than you
i saw anthrax in 1996 and 2x in 1998 and i love that time period. volume 8 is an amazing record!!!!
Absolutely agree. I love John Bush.
Same here.. the John Bush era was awesome
I stopped going to Anthrax shows after Joey left the band. Me and all my friends in the early 90's when to harder music like Death, Obituary stuff like that. Actually I used to go see Machinehead and Burn the Priest/ Lamb of God. At the small shows where only 30 people would show up. But I still listen to Anthrax records, I just didn't see their shows anymore.
+sirluisray1974 Joey's been back in the band for a few years.
+hinjurock I know, I was just talking about that era when he was gone I kind of lost interest. IDK why I just didn't care for John Bush at all and I hated Armored Saint.
sirluisray1974 Ah. Well, John Bush is one of my favorite Metal singers, and I loved Sound Of White Noise, even though it wasn't traditional Thrash Metal. And I've always been an Armored Saint fan as well - I grew up listening to them from the time their demos were first played on FM radio local music programs in LA.
+hinjurock Lol hey I still respect the man. Just not my cup of tea. Back then the more hard core extreme the better. I may have to try to listen to it now, taste do change.
I would like to know what he has to say about the guys who were in Anthrax in the early days and wrote the music.
The public enemy phase bored me shitless. Persistence would be their last great album.
That early 2000s wave was dreadful for metal...just saying.
seekah1 omg and Machine Heads Burning Red album!!! 🤣😂😅
seekah1 what about slayers god hates us all album
If you weren't around for 80's metal you have no idea what metal is.
@@michaelclary5337 That album wasn't that bad bro Supercharger is worse
Reinventing The Steel
Its all in the goatee!
Yeah things might have dropped off for Anthrax in the 90s because they weren't a huge act to begin with then Joey Ieft and that hurt them. But he shouldn't speak for Slayer because they were still filling up the places they were playing. They weren't playing the 12,000 to 15,000 seat arenas they were playing 5 to 7k capacity halls and filling them up. Anthrax and Megadeth tried to go mainstream and it backfired on them. Slayer had a hard-core dedicated following and they didn't disappoint them by trying be a commercial success like Anthrax and Megadeth did.
'I don't care what people think of me ... I appreciate that fans all over the world love ...' Schooling in Queens really needs to be upgraded.
Helena Charlemont Being appreciative and caring what people think are two different things...
2005-2015 was a great age for heavy metal.
+upgrayddable you mean after heavy metal stop being made?
Tobakilacion im one o those guys who is stuck in the 90s lol. hmm i like witchery...cant think of much more in the last 10 years. suggest some to check out? i like from heroes to legends thats new as hell
Tobakilacion the fright. interesting reminds me of cancerslug my friend loves that kinda music. avatar a bit "singy" for me but i like the dudes makeup lol...before the dawn is the star here im gonna check more of this one out. my 2 fav metal bands are judas priest and merciful fate..so i guess im rlllly classic. modern music i turn more towards prog rock like vai and more into just checking out people playing experimental and prg shit to improve my own playing.
+upgrayddable No. From 1970 to 1983 was.
Awesome. Hails to Scot Ian.
Fighting racism with racist SOD lyrics lol
Scott has to realize not everyone likes rap, doesn't matter who or what you are. People like what they want...get over it Scott
Scott Ian is an okay rythem guitar player. I loved anthrax growing up and was influenced more by Dan Spitz yet Scott Ian is not a bad rythem guitar player.
a Guy called Greg Walls, an early member of Anthrax basically taught Scotty all he knows, look Him up.
He's just ok? You're tone deaf. He's one of the BEST!
@@antimurphy8212 he's no Trevor Peres yet he's good.
Fighting racism by writing a song called "speak English or die" .... Good move
As an Anglophile and a metal head
Anthrax are one my favorite thrash metal bands from the 80s the album I considered the best from anthrax is Among The Living
Love all genres of metal I don’t see colour i just see great music being played
He and Robb Flynn throw a lot of stones.
is Scott jewish? he looks like it!
Yes. Scott Ian 'Rosenfeld'. ;-)
Why does it f@#&ing matter what Scott looks like?
S.O.D. was back in 1985, a real man grows and changes, only bigots and imbeciles don't change over time. Unless you're 90 years old, grow up haters.
Scott Ian-challenges Philip Anselmo to a boxing match
Does he want to die?
what are his views on awful, awful beards?
johnny cardboard so hard to see past that awful, awful beard.
I never cared for anthrax anyway, they should not be part of the big four as they suck...leave the fourth place to either pantera, testament, obituary or even to something that fits with the true thrash metal criteria
That’s the dumbest shit. They’re in the “big four”. Not your best 4. It’s about their influence and record sales. Pantera and obituary aren’t even thrash bands
Testament is thrash for posers. Anthrax only sucks to unenlightened wimps who need music with a cliche violent message to feel tough.
@@alexhicks5889 lol.
Scott Ian is “fighting racism” while he has an album called speak English or die. What the fuck?
Whatcha doin' there, Scott Ian?
Joke album
@@123612100 a joke gtfoh its was serious and u know it
@@TonyGilbert1 they were totally serious with the song milk lol
Is it me or there is the ss logo on his shirt? It’s like as though he was subliminally exposing his maybe true nature!
Plus, he’s got a shaven head,hmmmm?!?
there is no such thing as "ss logo"
You are completely pitiful.
He only cares about money and that is all
If he only cared about money he probably would of just become a banker. Not play in bands in under ground clubs most of his life. He has built a legacy and made some money but it was no picnic, not for any of the thrash metal bands. They where marginalized robbed and banned in some cities.
@@sirluisray1974 /watch?v=ZiI-7Lfg71I
That’s typical of his kind
Go somewhere else with your bullshit...
@@ramon2008racist
SOD!!!!!!!!! All I have to say. You may have created my muslims hate!!!!!!!!!
I am lying. It is a great album.
Sorry Scott still a huge fan.
Just stick to making, and stop trying to force your 'holier than thou' mentality, and self-righteous attitude on your fans.
Scott, your music is boring and forgettable
eh....Attack of the Killer Bees was more or less an " experimental" album. A lot of bands tried combining rap and metal. Body Count succeeded ( for a short while). Bio-Hazard was the last to try ( same short life span.) The formula just doesn't work. Almost as bad as Kid Rock mixing rap and country music....which was a sick joke.
If it is actually genuine then yes it can. And you forgot Stuck Mojo.
+Weird but Creative there was never anything metal about body count, they could barely qualify as punk rock. my moms cat can play guitar better than that.
+Weird but Creative bio hazard did a decent job of it, that song w onyx in particular
Emmm did you forget about rage against the machine? They did pretty damn well for quite a while.
Tell us more about your record "Speak English or Die." Social justice warrior!
J Sanders . Yes!!! Fuck this dude.
It's called "Satire" you dumb fuck.
It really wasn’t satire. It was just offensive on purpose. There was zero indication of it being satire
It was a little weird.
Imported society
Icon
Anthrax sucks.
Stomp was their best work....it got tossed ? Shame.
+Weird but Creative that album sucked.
Cult of Personality was a lousy song.. Nothing to do with color
Virtue signalingggggggggggg
Lookit me lookit me I’m Scott Ian.
The woody Allen of metal. Whining jew
Uh oh . . . looks like Jesse's goin' for the ol' antisemitic number. Bam! Ironic that you would know anything about Woody Allen, but then again, you're a joke, so there is some synchrony in all of this..
xD?