Can You Beat Hades II By Running?

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  • Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
  • Rules:
    - Melinoe cannot directly deal damage to foes with attacks, specials, or casts -- traps, and wandering spirits can damage enemies
    - That is all.
    Hades 2 is still in early access and anything you see in this video is subject to change.
    Let me know any future challenges you'd like to see!
    Thank you,
    Jack
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  • @temtempo13
    @temtempo13 26 днів тому

    What a fun run!! And honestly, you're underselling yourself: the description says "no damaging with enemies with casts," but that would still allow the use of normal casts (without damaging boons, of course) to help crowd-control enemies, and you didn't even do that! I have been watching a fair bit of Hades 2 content, and I haven't personally seen anyone else attempt anything like either of these runs.
    It's so wild to see someone doing such impressive challenge runs while still having unchosen boons for prophecies, that's wild and cool to me. (Maybe it's just me, but when I have that prophecy scroll on my boon selection screen, it takes all my willpower not to autopick it. Prophecy! Progression! Completionism!!) How many hours do you have in the game?
    Yeah, the Hephaestus sprint boon is nuts: hits like his attack/special boon but without the 12/20 second cooldown! Seems like sprinting doesn't immediately shut off your magick regen like omega channeling does, which helps a lot when it comes to regen.
    Just to be sure, you know that Frinos can block Hecate's morph hex, yeah? It's technically a projectile! Apologies if I'm telling you something you already know, just wanna make sure you know that. I discovered it by accident, personally.
    The moneybag enemies do give you money when you defeat them! It's bizarre that the miniboss version doesn't, but I guess that's made up for by all the golden urns in its room?
    (I think Vent might be a 5-second cooldown, not a 6-second one? Also, the Engraved Pin comes from Moros, hence him counting down when it activates, predicting your doom. Odysseus gives you the Knucklebones keepsake, I guess to reflect his advice on all those Guardians he's personally encountered.)
    28 and a half minutes in-game time is super impressive too... you almost could've taken two ranks of the "deadline" vow and still cleared, which is wild given how restrictive the challenge is.
    I tried to estimate how many times you would have had to proc the sprint, but between being able to hit a whole crowd of enemies, having the damage increase as the run progressed, sometimes dealing extra damage due to Weak, etc., that's not really feasible to do accurately. What I can say is that your sprint damage ranged from 300 to 524, so dividing 187,094 by that gives us somewhere between 357 and 624 sprints _hits_ (as opposed to procs, e.g. hitting 2 enemies counts twice) to clear, with the actual number probably being on the higher end of that, due to it starting at 300 and due to you giving up the extra damage from Weak before the end of the run.
    As for challenge run ideas, hmm... would a Cast-only build be interesting at all? That might end up being more tedious than challenging. Maybe trying out a less popular aspect and trying to optimize it? Maybe you'll come across something like that while making some of the comparison videos you mentioned wanting to make?

    • @JackOfAllGame
      @JackOfAllGame  26 днів тому +1

      I love all of the info and really appreciate everything. I did know about the frinos one, though he's only saved me once🤣do you have to be standing behind him for that? Everything in your comment is seriously going to help so much in future runs! As for a cast only run, that sounds amazing and I'm in. That's absolutely going to be my next challenge run!

    • @temtempo13
      @temtempo13 25 днів тому

      @@JackOfAllGame You're welcome!
      Yeah, you just have to lead the hex into Frinos: if you can start with him between you and Hecate, that's the easiest way to do it, but you can also just lead it into it as it chases you.
      I hope the challenge run goes well!! I'll definitely be watching!

  • @guy_arsonist
    @guy_arsonist 26 днів тому +4

    Glad to see you can do a fun run that doesn't take over 4 hours

    • @JackOfAllGame
      @JackOfAllGame  26 днів тому

      Haha yes me too, though I'm sure I'll find another 4 hour run to do at some point🤣

  • @Flipercat
    @Flipercat 26 днів тому +3

    This is some high-quality content from someone with less than 100 subs! I also love your cat's contributions, very enjoyable.
    Honestly the Hephaestus dash is posibly my favourite boon, it's so easy to redeem a run with shit RNG with it alone. I mean, it's a whole lot of damage, it costs just 10 magick, and you don't even have to commit to an attack becuase you're sprinting!

    • @JackOfAllGame
      @JackOfAllGame  26 днів тому +1

      Thanks so much! And yes I agree, it's ridiculous, had no idea it was so good before this run!

  • @menabiss321
    @menabiss321 26 днів тому +2

    I thought "Hephie's sprint" the moment i saw the title) Great video)
    Couple of run ideas:
    the "worst choices" run, where you make the worst possible choices with every boon (don't expect to win that one xD)
    and the "even more random" run, where you make each choice by random generator picking a number 1 through 3

    • @JackOfAllGame
      @JackOfAllGame  26 днів тому

      I love those ideas, thank you so much I will definitely take those on

  • @davidawakim5473
    @davidawakim5473 26 днів тому +1

    This man’s training for that 55 fear run

    • @JackOfAllGame
      @JackOfAllGame  26 днів тому

      I don't know if I'll ever be good enough to beat that challenge🤣

  • @joelkuhn9880
    @joelkuhn9880 25 днів тому

    Great content! I think you're gonna blow up with this content.
    Here's a challenge run idea. Max hammers. Get a shiny Double Up from Poseidon, get one hammer at any time, then pray for double up on a hammer right before echo. Get a fourth hammer from echo and pray for another double up for five. Then use the experimental hammer keepsake in Tartarus for six. I think with a pommed up epic or heroic double up, the RNG wouldn't be too punishing

  • @davidawakim5473
    @davidawakim5473 25 днів тому

    also awesome run!!

  • @Soliddimension3D
    @Soliddimension3D 25 днів тому +1

    Yeah I can def see the difficulty of topping the Toula challenge haha!
    That being said maybe this'll lead you to come up with ideas that otherwise no one else would've tried?
    The tricky thing with Hades is there's a limited amount of avenues to allow you to change the game in a really unique way (apart from Toula only!)
    With fear, its sort of straight forward in terms of difficulty. More fear, more hard. I think figuring out a really interesting challenge somewhere away from that simple fear challenge is what would really be fun to watch!
    I wonder if since the game Hades is quite linear with its difficulty progression, there could be an external challenge that could be creative and unique? Could be irl, could be a program on your computer, not entirely sure. But regardless I look forward to seeing what you cook up next!

    • @JackOfAllGame
      @JackOfAllGame  25 днів тому +1

      Oof maybe beating Hades blindfolded? That'd be absolutely crazy

    • @Soliddimension3D
      @Soliddimension3D 25 днів тому +1

      @@JackOfAllGame hoho!! That’d be so epic! Love that idea, and I imagine there’s near infinite possibilities when expanding out of just the game itself that could easily surpass the Toula challenge in both interest and challenge despite that being such a high bar

  • @2smallbros711
    @2smallbros711 26 днів тому

    A small run optimization here. If you put Apollo on your attack or special, the Hephaestus/Apollo duo increases the range of the burst. This is so big that you can run around Cerberus’s AoEs and still proc the burst on him. It also makes the non boss rooms a lot quicker and passively deals with any adds in the boss rooms. Then if you also use Aphrodite the Apollo/Aphrodite duo creates more heartthrobs which can chunk boss health even more.

    • @JackOfAllGame
      @JackOfAllGame  26 днів тому

      Ooooooo good idea, that'd make things a lot quicker

  • @SwingRipper
    @SwingRipper 25 днів тому

    I would have loved to see the in game timer in this vid as well! (IGT cuts out time idling in boon selections and things of that nature)

    • @JackOfAllGame
      @JackOfAllGame  25 днів тому

      I'll make sure to add it in the next one but the in game time was around 28 minutes!

  • @davidawakim5473
    @davidawakim5473 25 днів тому

    Could a Hera revenge build also work? Same Hephaestus sprint to get it started but then get that 1000% hitched revenge damage, Aphro / Demeter / Posioden for a metric ton of health and then let your enemies pray

    • @JackOfAllGame
      @JackOfAllGame  25 днів тому

      Hell yes, I'm in. I'll put it on the list, great idea I love it