I would like to have the option of dials and pushbuttons instead of a flat screen for AC/heat/air flow, wipers and all the other things that you could easily set or change without looking at a screen. It's much safer then, especially if you do not have a copilot to make the changes while you are driving.
I agree with you. I like using manual controls like dials and oversized knobs,.. I hate having to control things with the flat (or touchscreen).. Unfortunately, I think the new 2024 is going in the wrong direction and Subaru is forcing drivers to do more climate control things on the flat screen.. If this is true.. NOT GOOD SUBARU!!!
The Outback, being lower, makes it slightly easier to load boats on the roof. On the other hand, real roof racks are easier to install on the Forester rails. The built in load bars on the Outback are inadequate for serious boaters' needs. In the end, the better view of the road from the Forester plus use an outrigger extension on a Thule load bar makes the Forester a better choice for me. The Forester does fine when off road, in mud, etc. Wish they had mentioned how the Outback compares. The Wilderness editions seem like a real plus. A big drawback of my 2016 Forester is inability to read the speedometer when wearing sunglasses and passing in and out of sun/shade. Sadly, my Forester has started burning oil with barely over 110,000 miles on it.
Wow.. I am taller (about 6'4").. I did some research and the Subaru Forester caught my eye. The Forester is more boxy and taller - both good things - since I sit up higher in the cabin. The BIG PROBLEM is that Subaru is putting way too much stuff (cameras, lane keeping assist, etc) at the top middle part of the wind shield. This unfortunately interferes my own outward view. I need the top area of the windshield so I can see out for safe driving - and for just general driving enjoyment when I look out. I have good eyes, and I trust my own eyes more than the built in cameras and other built in safety features. This unfortunately causes a center top windshield blind spot - which is terrible for safe driving,.. Just wondering, can those cameras and other things at the top middle of the windshield be removed?
I have a Forester which I love because of the wider cargo area. I carry a walker a wheelchair and when on vacation a least four suitcases. I can carry the walker and wheelchair in the back, easily. I would only hope that someone considers wide cargo areas for EVs. Plus, I love the higher head space on the Forester. And the lower Forester price does help me.
I just got the 24 Outback limited with the added package. First thing I noticed was I can not turn off the radio, but it goes to USB, phone/audible app and then automatically back on. I wish they would do a software update to be able to turn off the radio without a playing when I turn my car off on when I want it quite. Only way to turn it off will black out the screen completely and when touching the screen to use navigation or something, the radio plays automatically. Also, left my phone in car then came back and Android Auto button grayed out and didn't work until I turned car off again, took my phone with me into a store and came back then it worked again, thought I needed a repair already for a while; must of been a computer glitch. I really like the car otherwise so far. I thought the Crosstrek was too small for me and I like it better than Forester's.
Before I got my Forester Wilderness, I was concerned about the power. While it's not a rocket ship, I am impressed with the acceleration considering the rated HP. I love fast cars, but for what I use this car for (road trips and exploring mostly, not my DD), it suits me well.
I am now enjoying my 3rd Outback without a single problem. Tons of room, comfortable ride and I get 34 on the hwy. Drove a Forester for a day while my Outback was getting it's 60k service and couldn't believe how hard the suspension was. Did not like it at all.
Agree, bring back the dials & push buttons. The flat screen is dangerous. I won't buy another Subaru until this this feature of dials & push buttons returns.
We have both. Definitely prefer the Outback for long trips. Forester has too much play for long road trips and seems a bit louder than the Outback. Short trips, especially around town, Forester for sure.
Kia can't keep ICE cars from starting on fire. You really want an electric Kia? I've never talked to a current or former Kia owner that had good things to say about them.
@@sergiyrudenko905 I've never owned a Chevy, but agree to disagree on that one. My uncle's Soul had the engine replaced not that long ago. It was still under the original warranty.
Outback looks awful Used to look more elegant and yet still off road capable Now the front fascia bumper looks like crying similar to 4Runner And the wheel arc molding plastic clad was more settle now looks like a big blown Crosstrek What gives?!
Make Imprezas great again
I would like to have the option of dials and pushbuttons instead of a flat screen for AC/heat/air flow, wipers and all the other things that you could easily set or change without looking at a screen. It's much safer then, especially if you do not have a copilot to make the changes while you are driving.
Right on the money. Extremely dangerous innovation that should be investigated; it will cause cause fatal accidents.
Hope Subaru will go back to dials and buttons soon. Only having a touchscreen for controls is the one thing that would stop me buying a 3rd Subaru😢
Agreed. We recently purchased a 2020 Forester over the Outback for this very reason.
And one screen is plenty.
Outback- Huge distracting touchscreen
Forester- Two distracting screens
I agree with you. I like using manual controls like dials and oversized knobs,.. I hate having to control things with the flat (or touchscreen).. Unfortunately, I think the new 2024 is going in the wrong direction and Subaru is forcing drivers to do more climate control things on the flat screen.. If this is true.. NOT GOOD SUBARU!!!
We have a 2017 Forester and my wife loves this car. I like the headroom that I haven't seen in a car since we started looking.
Both great models. Have a 2020 Forester Premium. Best car ever owned. 😊
The Outback, being lower, makes it slightly easier to load boats on the roof. On the other hand, real roof racks are easier to install on the Forester rails. The built in load bars on the Outback are inadequate for serious boaters' needs.
In the end, the better view of the road from the Forester plus use an outrigger extension on a Thule load bar makes the Forester a better choice for me. The Forester does fine when off road, in mud, etc. Wish they had mentioned how the Outback compares. The Wilderness editions seem like a real plus.
A big drawback of my 2016 Forester is inability to read the speedometer when wearing sunglasses and passing in and out of sun/shade.
Sadly, my Forester has started burning oil with barely over 110,000 miles on it.
Wow.. I am taller (about 6'4").. I did some research and the Subaru Forester caught my eye. The Forester is more boxy and taller - both good things - since I sit up higher in the cabin. The BIG PROBLEM is that Subaru is putting way too much stuff (cameras, lane keeping assist, etc) at the top middle part of the wind shield. This unfortunately interferes my own outward view. I need the top area of the windshield so I can see out for safe driving - and for just general driving enjoyment when I look out. I have good eyes, and I trust my own eyes more than the built in cameras and other built in safety features. This unfortunately causes a center top windshield blind spot - which is terrible for safe driving,.. Just wondering, can those cameras and other things at the top middle of the windshield be removed?
love my 2020 outback cannot see getting another for awhile
I have a Forester which I love because of the wider cargo area. I carry a walker a wheelchair and when on vacation a least four suitcases. I can carry the walker and wheelchair in the back, easily. I would only hope that someone considers wide cargo areas for EVs. Plus, I love the higher head space on the Forester. And the lower Forester price does help me.
The main reasons I picked the Forester over the Outback were more headroom and not having HVAC integrated into the touchscreen.
I just got the 24 Outback limited with the added package. First thing I noticed was I can not turn off the radio, but it goes to USB, phone/audible app and then automatically back on. I wish they would do a software update to be able to turn off the radio without a playing when I turn my car off on when I want it quite. Only way to turn it off will black out the screen completely and when touching the screen to use navigation or something, the radio plays automatically. Also, left my phone in car then came back and Android Auto button grayed out and didn't work until I turned car off again, took my phone with me into a store and came back then it worked again, thought I needed a repair already for a while; must of been a computer glitch. I really like the car otherwise so far. I thought the Crosstrek was too small for me and I like it better than Forester's.
Please give us a Forester XT again for 2024!
🙏🙏🙏
Make it a Wilderness, Limited and Touring XT option!
🫶❤️🫶
That’s all we want. Why are they only pushing up the Outback?
Before I got my Forester Wilderness, I was concerned about the power. While it's not a rocket ship, I am impressed with the acceleration considering the rated HP. I love fast cars, but for what I use this car for (road trips and exploring mostly, not my DD), it suits me well.
I am now enjoying my 3rd Outback without a single problem. Tons of room, comfortable ride and I get 34 on the hwy. Drove a Forester for a day while my Outback was getting it's 60k service and couldn't believe how hard the suspension was. Did not like it at all.
Agree, bring back the dials & push buttons. The flat screen is dangerous. I won't buy another Subaru until this this feature of dials & push buttons returns.
Did you fix the issue with cracking windshields?
I will upgrade my 17FXT when there’s a new FXT to buy.
Odd how no mention of increased headroom in Forester.
Its almost identical. Forester has got a tiny bit more.
I love my 2016 Forester!
Why isn't there a 260 HP engine option in the Forester?
Probably because the buy rate on the Forester XT in the last generation wasn't very high, so it's not profitable.
If you are a tall guy like me (6’6”) get the forester, yes the forester, it is a great car overall
Love my 22 Outback except the screen which forces your eyes off the road which is too dangerous. Would prefer knobs and switches for climate etc.
We have both. Definitely prefer the Outback for long trips. Forester has too much play for long road trips and seems a bit louder than the Outback. Short trips, especially around town, Forester for sure.
I love my Forester I hope they would build an electric Forester in the next 2 years so I don't need to buy Kia or Hyundai.
Kia can't keep ICE cars from starting on fire. You really want an electric Kia? I've never talked to a current or former Kia owner that had good things to say about them.
@@B...H Kia's build quality is far better than Ford or Chevy.
@@sergiyrudenko905 I've never owned a Chevy, but agree to disagree on that one. My uncle's Soul had the engine replaced not that long ago. It was still under the original warranty.
For either, I would want the lowest trim level that comes with built in GPS. Which one offers GPS at a lower trim level, or is it the same?
Very happy with my 2022 Outback Wilderness. If price is not much of an issue I recommend the Outback.
And bring back the simple roof rails on the Outback
Like you did on Gen 5 Touring Edition
subaru make a twin turbo 2.4 580 horse impreza we will buy 10 million
My nuts. Your chin.
I hate how the legacy is getting discontinued and how the Impreza sedan is already discontinued
So outback is much better and worth the money absolutely no doubt about it
When did Subaru get so fancy on the interiors lol
Love it
Forester is the goat
👍 Very Nice 👍
Engine?!
Outback looks awful
Used to look more elegant and yet still off road capable
Now the front fascia bumper looks like crying similar to 4Runner
And the wheel arc molding plastic clad was more settle now looks like a big blown Crosstrek
What gives?!
Before I buy another Subaru they need to own up to their battery and parasitic electrical problems.
Oil burners and CVT failures.
RIP subaru
Don't make them bigger 😢
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And neither are electric so I opted for a Tesla Model Y to replace my 2013 Outback.
Yes, it would be good to have a hybrid
...and they both have CVTs and no PHEV options.
hard pass.