All of these videos are available in a digital download of a webinar I did last year, which also includes the stent series. You can find it here: drgreger.org/collections/videos/products/how-effective-are-statins-and-stents-digital
I'm 74 years old, I have been on a statin for 10 years! Last October I went Whole-Food Plant-Based and stopped my statin drug. My lab work came back with LDL cholesterol lower than when I was on the statin drug and has stayed low with every lab work now!
Nice video, but I think you should include statistics regarding the benefits of statin drugs. At the beginning of the video, you said you would disclose the "true risks and benefits so people can make a fully informed decision," but you did not show a single statistic or study suggesting any benefit to statins. Do statins reduce the risk of cardiovascular disease? If so, what is the effect size? How can you weigh risks and benefits without knowing the benefit? You should also include the percentage of people who get myalgias, elevated liver function tests, or outright rhabdomyositis.
My doctor tried to get me on statins, I refused because it seemed extreme given my high cholesterol was mild as well as the fact that the particular statin prescribed conflicts with another medical issue. So decreasing my dietary cholesterol seemed a better option
Statins frigging work! I switched to a low fat vegetarian diet and dropped my LDL from 140 t 46 while taking a statin. I stopped taking the statin but kept the diet and it went up to 63. That's still quite low compared t most people but 46 is significantly better. I resumed the statin and it wen back down to 43. Do both! The side effects are rare and really nothing to speak of. Complaints about muscle soreness are deluded.
@@donwinston Taking drugs on top of dietary/lifestyle intervention shouldn't be necessary or advised. You said "low-fat vegetarian diet." What does "low-fat" mean here? Vegetarian meaning you're still consuming dairy and eggs? If so, that's a big reason why your LDL went back up.
@@sugarbabylove1000 No need for statins if your lifestyle is healthful enough. Unless you're in the 2% of people who have a genetic factor for high cholesterol.
Went vegan May 23 rd … was on statins … doc said on last appointment , I have LOW cholesterol and so no more cholesterol pills , my diabetes number went from 5.9 to 5.2 and my pressure went way down to normal … and lost 50 pounds in less then three months. The food is killing us ! Eat healthy please !
What about taking statins 2x a week? I take Crestor twice a week and saw a 25% decrease in LDL with corresponding decrease in total cholesterol to 165. Seems getting into such a healthy range must help without the risk of complications. After all, pharma makes people take statins daily despite the 30 hour half life. That means they Can accumulate, which might explain the side effects. I’ve been vegan and found it unsustainable like most people. I eat mostly plants but eat medium fat diet and some chicken and seafood to satisfy my palate when needed. To me the crestor is a happy medium thst keeps me in an extremely healthy range. Best of both worlds? I’m not going to wait to find out and go by massive statistical studies. I’m applying direct experience to myself. Better living through chemistry! Let’s not forget Essylstyn patients used statins.
Please do a video on when a person HAS changed their diet to a healthy plant-based diet and does exercise yet STILL has high LDL, and calcium score is elevated. What should the person do then when nothing else is working???
@gabrieletrinczek3394 my husband got a genetic test and found out he has a genetic problem that has his body kicking out LDL no matter what he did. He couldn't tolerate statins. He got approved for Leqvio, a shot once every 6 months. It works, no side effects. The plant based diet can help, but with the genetic problem, it wasn't enough. We are happy we got the answer finally.
Although I appreciate the work in this video, it presents the statin decision as if it is yes or no, when in fact you also have the choice of DOSE. A low-dose statin may be the perfect compromise for many people who do the diet changes but still have troubling indicators of future (or present) disease.
This is a very informative video, but leaves me unsure whether I should take statins or not? I had a heart attack in 2018 and was sent home with meds only for hypertension (no stents). I am now looking to switch to a plant based diet as Dr Greger recommends, but it might take a while for me to fully switch.
Problem is, the ACC/AHA calculator is based on the 2013 Pooled Cohort Equation, which gives values about 80% too high (according to a Johns Hopkins study.) Believe it or not, one available from Merckdoc (a website maintained by a pharmaceutical company) uses the more accurate 2018 Pooled Cohort Equation and gives (at least for people in low, borderline, and moderate risk according to the other calculators) lower numbers, seeming to account for the bias in the ACC/AHA calculator. But the calculator which gives more accurate numbers would take a lot of people out of the statin equation so of course it's not used. (Note this 2018-based calculator actually gives higher values for people truly at high risk.)
The points made at the 5:20 mark in quoting the USPSTF regarding additional tests make no sense in terms of a person obtaining a better understanding of their condition and risk. The only way that the USPSTF quotes make sense is if a person believes the nonsense that Total Cholesterol and LDL levels are the best and primary indicators of CVD. There is no risk or harm in either an ABI or an hsCRP test. The ABI is not invasive at all. The hsCRP test is no more invasive than any other blood test. The CAC has minimal radiation risk. The only real risk from those three additional tests, along with a couple of others such as LP(a) and ApoB, is that the additional tests will show that the cholesterol levels are BS as being CVD risk indicators and might cause the person to conclude that contributing to pharma company profits by taking statins for the rest of his/her life may not be in their best interest, no matter how much it benefits the pharma companies.
Thank you for the very informational and unbiased video. Played with the simulator and the lifetime risk doesn't get much better (36%) even with optimum numbers of cholesterol and BP. Nor much worse even with a total cholesterol of 300. Not sure what goes into that number...
None of the estimators take into account diet (plant based) and exercise. I bike more than 125 miles each week. That doesn't increase my longevity and decrease my chances for a heart attack?
My entire family has been terrified of fat and doing everything they can to eat a plant based, low fat diet. They focus on nutrient dense vegetation and are all incredibly physically active. My dad just had a massive heart attack. Luckily he survived. His father died of a heart attack. My mom's father died of a heart attack. Every single member of my family has been told they need to be on a statin, need to eat even less fat, go even more plant based, and yet still somehow are at massive risk for heart disease and other metabolic issues. CAC scores keep going up. HDL keeps going down. Risk factors keep getting worse. And you know what, they are all lean, strong, and full of energy. You would never know they were at risk for an early death. I am done with this shit. I spent the last 15 years pouring over ever single clinical trial ever produced on a global scale. We were fucking wrong. I am now several years into a red meat heavy diet with sparingly only a few green veggies on the side, and am finally literally the only person in my family officially no longer at risk for heart disease and not on any medication for it. Red meat and saturated fat help prevent heart disease. The sooner we own the facts, the sooner we can stop this pandering to an ever increasing curve of death and disease. We have been fighting and winning with our persuasion... Get people off eating animals, eat less fat, lower your cholesterol... and it has done nothing but ramp up the rate that people are dying of disease. This needs to stop. We need to admit when we are wrong. Ideology does not trump scientific evidence.
The big problem with the calcium score is, that it can only detect calcium, when the coronary artery disease has already progressed. If it's positive (a lot of calcium found) you need to quantify it. And to quantify it, you would need to an invasive coronary angiography. If the calcium is low, however, you don't need invasive testing. (Or in other words: the coronary calcium score has a high sensitivity, but a low specificity of finding coronary artery disease) Whether or not you wanna take a statin, the coronary calcium score will not make the decission. The best advice I can give you: keep the LDL-Cholesterole as low as possible. You can lower the LDL with diet and exercise about 33% up to 50%. A statin or ezetimibe again halves the cholesterole levels. How far you wanna go, is your decission.
@@EibaProductions I appreciate your opinion. I'm still ambivalent about them for me. Anecdotal, but about 10 years ago, 100% of the people I knew that were put on statins developed diabetes within the next three to five years. Now, one might speculate that they already had 'metabolic damage' although none were over weight, none smoked, none had heart disease, and all were active. I started to correlate the statins with the increased risk of diabetes. Years later, the evidence began to show up.
@@Joseph1NJ What specifically caused the diabetes in each of your friends, is hard to tell. Usually it's a mix of genetics and environmental factors. However, statin-use is a factor, that could promote the manifestation of diabetes. I'd recommend and getting a blood test with the cholesterol (including LDL, HDL and overall cholesterol) and with blood glucose (you need to fast for 6 hours prior to that) and Hb1Ac (the "long term" diabetes marker). Then by using such a risk calculator as mentioned in the video, you know the risk of developing an atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease and how the risk changes if you'd use a statin or not. Two things I also want to mention: If you haven't had a stroke/heart attack etc., I'd recommend a smaller dose of a statin (like Rosuvastatin 5mg or Atorvastatin 10mg). This has the advantage, that at that dosage, most of the cholesterol-lowering is happening, but not as many side-effects. Also please discuss this topic and the advantages and disadvantages of using a statin, as well as the blood results with your primary health care doctor or a specialist. (It's always hard to deliver medical advice over the internet, as I cannot prove that I am a medical professional. I could be anyone)
@@EibaProductions Actually, it was a cardiologist that recommended a low dose stain (10 mg Rosuvastatin) even though my lipids are good, cholesterol ~ 130, LDL ~65, BP good, no diabetes, not overweight, but my risk factors are family history, ex smoker, and a calcium score of 110 (that's not great I know). Anyway thx for the detailed response!
Going through this right now. Doctors are talking statins or surgery for my spouse’s afib. I was appalled. But he won’t eat like I do. Living proof is just not enough.😵💫
That explains why many years ago statins were handed out to diabetes patients like candies but all of a sudden that all stopped One of the many drugs I have been given hailed as a wonder-drug but turned out to be a dud.
Can't get a 10 year risk because my LDL is too low at 44 and had to artificially increase my total cholesterol to 130 to get it to even calculate anything. Yet it says my lifetime ASCVD risk is 36%. Those numbers seem wrong.
@@lightdark00 thank you so much for your help 🙏🏻 Man , 53 years old,189 cm high / 80 kilograms. I got a stent on February 2021 , I refused medication after one week, then 2 months later I started Keto diet for 2,5 months which increased my LDL cholesterol to 275. On 9 august 2021 I started Plant-Based diet. I am taking as well vitamin C Acerola , vitamin D3, vitamin k2. I am an athletic body, 1, 88 cm high / 80 kg , I lost around 5 kilograms after implantation of stent ( angioplasty) . Does anyone know if you can low the LDL cholesterol just with the diet and supplements which I am taking ❓❓❓ Does anyone know if I can keep my artery coronary unclogged long time only with diet and supplements ❓❓❓… without statins?! Thank you , I will appreciate an sincere answer. God bless you all.
@@lightdark00 i have read about dr .esselstyn , dr . Ornish , and how bill clinton is managing his diet. I am living in Denmark 🇩🇰 , here is not much sun . So .. vitamin B 12 I need?..how many tablespoons per day? I am happy that I found you. Morning I eat oatmeal in water with some fruits or vegetables sometimes. What kind of beans and rice I am allowed to eat? God will reward you sure
@@gabriel65304 It's possible with just diet and lifestyle with a whole foods plant based diet. It's a completely vegan diet without cooking oils/refined oils or added sugars and is low in salt. When you are reversing heart disease or other conditions, it is best to keep it low fat. No refined oils, no nuts or seeds. Flaxseeds are okay (and necessary for omega-3s - make sure the flax is ground before you eat it so you can absorb the omega-3s). Most people improve significantly with this diet regiment. The fat content is pretty important to keep an eye on though. Also, most people don't need statins with this diet, but for less than 10% of people, they will need statins too.
I understand that all of us with atherosclerosis ( artery coronary clogged) … we are missing Nitric Oxide. Esselstyn recommends nitric oxide from vegetables. Other doctors say from sex Others say from garlic, meat, red beet 🤔 which is the best? Thanks 🙏🏻
3:45 - My total cholesterol on a vegan diet is so low (114 mg/dl) that American College of Cardiology website doesn't even accept it. The lowest it accepts is 130. 😎
Wow so most doctors not only know jack-and-s#!t about nutrition but also have about as the same knowledge level on the risks of all the drugs they hand to you to take
NO NO NO if you are going to take a drug for life you MUST receive genetic counseling. Statins use specific metabolic pathways which you can test for. They should NEVER be prescribed without doing all available genetic testing to make sure they don’t wreck your liver and cause muscle pain. Here’s looking at you SLCO1b1 genetic pathway.
So if you have had a heart attack but have adopted a healthy diet and lifestyle there is no treatment regimen or protocol that would ever consider the cessation of statins? There is no way to safely measure your actual "endothelial" health and determine that they are no longer necessary?
I hope you get an answer. After 2 years of excruciating muscle pain and being told it’s because I’m old (68 now), I researched enough to decide to stop my Lipitor. Cardiology PA agreed to 2 weeks but hasn’t returned my calls. I’ve been off Lipitor for a month now. Between CoQ10 and not taking Lipitor, I’m still a bit weak but getting less pain each day. Having had a heart attack in 2017, it sounds like I should take a statin but don’t think I can bear the pain. It’s almost like having to decide how I want to die? I’m vegetarian since 1975. Bad hearts run in my family. Hmm
@@tlsnana9539 how are your "numbers"? (LDL, blood pressure, triglycerides, sugar) How were they before your attack? I had a mild attack in 2019 and my statin rx is a low dose so I'd really like to get off it. My numbers are really good.
@@tlsnana9539 you have a stent? Or bypass? Man , 53 years old,189 cm high / 80 kilograms. I got a stent on February 2021 , I refused medication after one week, then 2 months later I started Keto diet for 2,5 months which increased my LDL cholesterol to 275. On 9 august 2021 I started Plant-Based diet. I am taking as well vitamin C Acerola , vitamin D3, vitamin k2. I am an athletic body, 1, 88 cm high / 80 kg , I lost around 5 kilograms after implantation of stent ( angioplasty) . Does anyone know if you can low the LDL cholesterol just with the diet and supplements which I am taking ❓❓❓ Does anyone know if I can keep my artery coronary unclogged long time only with diet and supplements ❓❓❓… without statins?! Thank you , I will appreciate an sincere answer. God bless you all.
@@tlsnana9539 I had troubles with Lipitor at high doses that got better at low doses but the troubles eliminated entirely when I switched to a different low-dose statin. Something to talk with your cardiologist about.
Hola! Recientemente me han diagnosticado una hipercolesterolemia familiar a través de un test genético. Gracias a la dieta basada en plantas que sigo, tengo un LDL de 130mg/dl. Mi cardiólogo insiste en que tome estatinas para tener 55mg/dl. Me resisto a tomar estatinas. ¿Seria peligroso si no las tomo aunque tenga un LDL casi normal?. Tengo 30 años. Gracias
Nobody should take statins without having had LDL-P tests and triglycerides tests to see the makeup of their LDL, and a CAC scan to determine whether they have ANY evidence of atherosclerosis.
Their is a UA-camr Justin Rhodes that is dying in front of 800k subscribers got food poisoning from chicken he eats mostly animal base food like raw milk eggs butter meats etc Mabe Dr Gregor could go and save his life please reach out and your viewers could comment on a old video telling him benifits of Whole Foods plant base living he turned off comments on new videos please save his life
I now eat a low fat quasi vegetarian diet, exercise, AND take a statin. I get the benefits of both. Statins not only prevent further plaque build up and stabilize plaque they also can reduce it! Statins frigging work. Do both!
@@gabriel65304 asprin doesn't prevent plaque build-up, it prevents the formation of a thrombotic clot in the arteries. Nowadays it's only used, if you have had manifest atherosclerotic artery disease with a formation of such a clot, and hence needed an intervention (usually stenting).
They should work with their doctors on expectations, understanding the drugs amd its effect and develop a plan accordingly. A doctor is there to advise not dictate.
Not entirely. Different doctors have very different ideas. My first cardiologist wanted me on a very high dose of lipitor. My next one said I only needed the lowest dose of a different statin. It is good to be educated.
Oh? My doctor said I needed to go on statins. This was about 8 years ago. I decided to go Vegan instead. LDL went down from 139 to 89 in 6 months. I was pre diabetic, and my A1C is now 5.1. Various other measures went from warning levels - or higher (at one point my blood pressure was about 171/102 - yesterday it measured 102/60.) Would I have been as successful had I followed his advice? When he tested me after that 6 month period he said, "whatever you are doing keep it up." I have - mostly
All of these videos are available in a digital download of a webinar I did last year, which also includes the stent series. You can find it here: drgreger.org/collections/videos/products/how-effective-are-statins-and-stents-digital
I took 2 statins and threw them. Would the 2 I took affect me ?
I'm 74 years old, I have been on a statin for 10 years! Last October I went Whole-Food Plant-Based and stopped my statin drug.
My lab work came back with LDL cholesterol lower than when I was on the statin drug and has stayed low with every lab work now!
Nice video, but I think you should include statistics regarding the benefits of statin drugs. At the beginning of the video, you said you would disclose the "true risks and benefits so people can make a fully informed decision," but you did not show a single statistic or study suggesting any benefit to statins. Do statins reduce the risk of cardiovascular disease? If so, what is the effect size? How can you weigh risks and benefits without knowing the benefit? You should also include the percentage of people who get myalgias, elevated liver function tests, or outright rhabdomyositis.
My doctor tried to get me on statins, I refused because it seemed extreme given my high cholesterol was mild as well as the fact that the particular statin prescribed conflicts with another medical issue. So decreasing my dietary cholesterol seemed a better option
Statins frigging work! I switched to a low fat vegetarian diet and dropped my LDL from 140 t 46 while taking a statin. I stopped taking the statin but kept the diet and it went up to 63. That's still quite low compared t most people but 46 is significantly better. I resumed the statin and it wen back down to 43. Do both! The side effects are rare and really nothing to speak of. Complaints about muscle soreness are deluded.
@@donwinston thanks. I'll bear that in mind.
@@donwinston Taking drugs on top of dietary/lifestyle intervention shouldn't be necessary or advised. You said "low-fat vegetarian diet." What does "low-fat" mean here? Vegetarian meaning you're still consuming dairy and eggs? If so, that's a big reason why your LDL went back up.
@@sugarbabylove1000 No need for statins if your lifestyle is healthful enough. Unless you're in the 2% of people who have a genetic factor for high cholesterol.
You are wise.
Went vegan May 23 rd … was on statins … doc said on last appointment , I have LOW cholesterol and so no more cholesterol pills , my diabetes number went from 5.9 to 5.2 and my pressure went way down to normal … and lost 50 pounds in less then three months.
The food is killing us ! Eat healthy please !
Congrats! I bet you feel great.
Yayyy good job eating wf plant based
Losing 50 pounds will do that
What about taking statins 2x a week? I take Crestor twice a week and saw a 25% decrease in LDL with corresponding decrease in total cholesterol to 165. Seems getting into such a healthy range must help without the risk of complications. After all, pharma makes people take statins daily despite the 30 hour half life. That means they Can accumulate, which might explain the side effects. I’ve been vegan and found it unsustainable like most people. I eat mostly plants but eat medium fat diet and some chicken and seafood to satisfy my palate when needed. To me the crestor is a happy medium thst keeps me in an extremely healthy range. Best of both worlds? I’m not going to wait to find out and go by massive statistical studies. I’m applying direct experience to myself. Better living through chemistry! Let’s not forget Essylstyn patients used statins.
Started eating plant based at age 21 so hopefully I'll never have to care
Please do a video on when a person HAS changed their diet to a healthy plant-based diet and does exercise yet STILL has high LDL, and calcium score is elevated. What should the person do then when nothing else is working???
I am in exactly the same situation. What is the advice?
@gabrieletrinczek3394 my husband got a genetic test and found out he has a genetic problem that has his body kicking out LDL no matter what he did. He couldn't tolerate statins. He got approved for Leqvio, a shot once every 6 months. It works, no side effects. The plant based diet can help, but with the genetic problem, it wasn't enough. We are happy we got the answer finally.
Although I appreciate the work in this video, it presents the statin decision as if it is yes or no, when in fact you also have the choice of DOSE. A low-dose statin may be the perfect compromise for many people who do the diet changes but still have troubling indicators of future (or present) disease.
Excellent work👏👏👏
Very valuable guidance, as usual.
is the video on how to regenerate coenzyme q10 only for the ones who take statins or for everyone?
This is a very informative video, but leaves me unsure whether I should take statins or not? I had a heart attack in 2018 and was sent home with meds only for hypertension (no stents). I am now looking to switch to a plant based diet as Dr Greger recommends, but it might take a while for me to fully switch.
Dr Greger is the BEST!!
Problem is, the ACC/AHA calculator is based on the 2013 Pooled Cohort Equation, which gives values about 80% too high (according to a Johns Hopkins study.) Believe it or not, one available from Merckdoc (a website maintained by a pharmaceutical company) uses the more accurate 2018 Pooled Cohort Equation and gives (at least for people in low, borderline, and moderate risk according to the other calculators) lower numbers, seeming to account for the bias in the ACC/AHA calculator. But the calculator which gives more accurate numbers would take a lot of people out of the statin equation so of course it's not used. (Note this 2018-based calculator actually gives higher values for people truly at high risk.)
The points made at the 5:20 mark in quoting the USPSTF regarding additional tests make no sense in terms of a person obtaining a better understanding of their condition and risk. The only way that the USPSTF quotes make sense is if a person believes the nonsense that Total Cholesterol and LDL levels are the best and primary indicators of CVD. There is no risk or harm in either an ABI or an hsCRP test. The ABI is not invasive at all. The hsCRP test is no more invasive than any other blood test. The CAC has minimal radiation risk. The only real risk from those three additional tests, along with a couple of others such as LP(a) and ApoB, is that the additional tests will show that the cholesterol levels are BS as being CVD risk indicators and might cause the person to conclude that contributing to pharma company profits by taking statins for the rest of his/her life may not be in their best interest, no matter how much it benefits the pharma companies.
Thank you for the very informational and unbiased video. Played with the simulator and the lifetime risk doesn't get much better (36%) even with optimum numbers of cholesterol and BP. Nor much worse even with a total cholesterol of 300. Not sure what goes into that number...
None of the estimators take into account diet (plant based) and exercise. I bike more than 125 miles each week. That doesn't increase my longevity and decrease my chances for a heart attack?
It’s a highly profitable product.
My entire family has been terrified of fat and doing everything they can to eat a plant based, low fat diet. They focus on nutrient dense vegetation and are all incredibly physically active. My dad just had a massive heart attack. Luckily he survived. His father died of a heart attack. My mom's father died of a heart attack. Every single member of my family has been told they need to be on a statin, need to eat even less fat, go even more plant based, and yet still somehow are at massive risk for heart disease and other metabolic issues. CAC scores keep going up. HDL keeps going down. Risk factors keep getting worse. And you know what, they are all lean, strong, and full of energy. You would never know they were at risk for an early death. I am done with this shit. I spent the last 15 years pouring over ever single clinical trial ever produced on a global scale. We were fucking wrong. I am now several years into a red meat heavy diet with sparingly only a few green veggies on the side, and am finally literally the only person in my family officially no longer at risk for heart disease and not on any medication for it. Red meat and saturated fat help prevent heart disease. The sooner we own the facts, the sooner we can stop this pandering to an ever increasing curve of death and disease. We have been fighting and winning with our persuasion... Get people off eating animals, eat less fat, lower your cholesterol... and it has done nothing but ramp up the rate that people are dying of disease. This needs to stop. We need to admit when we are wrong. Ideology does not trump scientific evidence.
Russian bot or meat industry shill
nobody should take them, just eat whole food plant food and keep the animal products out...also don't drink alkohol
A calcium score takes about 5 minutes, I don't see the harm, and it's a significant risk factor indicator. How does one rate "radiation risk?"
The big problem with the calcium score is, that it can only detect calcium, when the coronary artery disease has already progressed. If it's positive (a lot of calcium found) you need to quantify it. And to quantify it, you would need to an invasive coronary angiography. If the calcium is low, however, you don't need invasive testing. (Or in other words: the coronary calcium score has a high sensitivity, but a low specificity of finding coronary artery disease)
Whether or not you wanna take a statin, the coronary calcium score will not make the decission. The best advice I can give you: keep the LDL-Cholesterole as low as possible. You can lower the LDL with diet and exercise about 33% up to 50%. A statin or ezetimibe again halves the cholesterole levels. How far you wanna go, is your decission.
@@EibaProductions I appreciate your opinion. I'm still ambivalent about them for me. Anecdotal, but about 10 years ago, 100% of the people I knew that were put on statins developed diabetes within the next three to five years. Now, one might speculate that they already had 'metabolic damage' although none were over weight, none smoked, none had heart disease, and all were active. I started to correlate the statins with the increased risk of diabetes. Years later, the evidence began to show up.
@@Joseph1NJ What specifically caused the diabetes in each of your friends, is hard to tell. Usually it's a mix of genetics and environmental factors. However, statin-use is a factor, that could promote the manifestation of diabetes.
I'd recommend and getting a blood test with the cholesterol (including LDL, HDL and overall cholesterol) and with blood glucose (you need to fast for 6 hours prior to that) and Hb1Ac (the "long term" diabetes marker).
Then by using such a risk calculator as mentioned in the video, you know the risk of developing an atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease and how the risk changes if you'd use a statin or not.
Two things I also want to mention: If you haven't had a stroke/heart attack etc., I'd recommend a smaller dose of a statin (like Rosuvastatin 5mg or Atorvastatin 10mg). This has the advantage, that at that dosage, most of the cholesterol-lowering is happening, but not as many side-effects.
Also please discuss this topic and the advantages and disadvantages of using a statin, as well as the blood results with your primary health care doctor or a specialist. (It's always hard to deliver medical advice over the internet, as I cannot prove that I am a medical professional. I could be anyone)
@@EibaProductions Actually, it was a cardiologist that recommended a low dose stain (10 mg Rosuvastatin) even though my lipids are good, cholesterol ~ 130, LDL ~65, BP good, no diabetes, not overweight, but my risk factors are family history, ex smoker, and a calcium score of 110 (that's not great I know). Anyway thx for the detailed response!
Going through this right now. Doctors are talking statins or surgery for my spouse’s afib. I was appalled. But he won’t eat like I do. Living proof is just not enough.😵💫
That explains why many years ago
statins were handed out to diabetes patients
like candies
but all of a sudden that all stopped
One of the many drugs
I have been given
hailed as a wonder-drug
but turned out to be a dud.
Can't get a 10 year risk because my LDL is too low at 44 and had to artificially increase my total cholesterol to 130 to get it to even calculate anything. Yet it says my lifetime ASCVD risk is 36%. Those numbers seem wrong.
I am not good enough in English.
So .. to whom really is recommended statins? Or who should take the statins?
Thanks 🙏🏻
@@lightdark00 thank you so much for your help 🙏🏻
Man , 53 years old,189 cm high / 80 kilograms. I got a stent on February 2021 , I refused medication after one week, then 2 months later I started Keto diet for 2,5 months which increased my LDL cholesterol to 275. On 9 august 2021 I started Plant-Based diet. I am taking as well vitamin C Acerola , vitamin D3, vitamin k2.
I am an athletic body, 1, 88 cm high / 80 kg , I lost around 5 kilograms after implantation of stent ( angioplasty) .
Does anyone know if you can low the LDL cholesterol just with the diet and supplements which I am taking ❓❓❓
Does anyone know if I can keep my artery coronary unclogged long time only with diet and supplements ❓❓❓… without statins?!
Thank you , I will appreciate an sincere answer.
God bless you all.
@@lightdark00 i have read about dr .esselstyn , dr . Ornish , and how bill clinton is managing his diet.
I am living in Denmark 🇩🇰 , here is not much sun .
So .. vitamin B 12 I need?..how many tablespoons per day?
I am happy that I found you.
Morning I eat oatmeal in water with some fruits or vegetables sometimes.
What kind of beans and rice I am allowed to eat?
God will reward you sure
@@gabriel65304 It's possible with just diet and lifestyle with a whole foods plant based diet. It's a completely vegan diet without cooking oils/refined oils or added sugars and is low in salt.
When you are reversing heart disease or other conditions, it is best to keep it low fat. No refined oils, no nuts or seeds. Flaxseeds are okay (and necessary for omega-3s - make sure the flax is ground before you eat it so you can absorb the omega-3s).
Most people improve significantly with this diet regiment. The fat content is pretty important to keep an eye on though. Also, most people don't need statins with this diet, but for less than 10% of people, they will need statins too.
I understand that all of us with atherosclerosis ( artery coronary clogged) … we are missing Nitric Oxide.
Esselstyn recommends nitric oxide from vegetables.
Other doctors say from sex
Others say from garlic, meat, red beet
🤔 which is the best?
Thanks 🙏🏻
@@lightdark00 nutritional yeast b12 I am taking, its ok ? Thanks 🙏🏻
3:45 - My total cholesterol on a vegan diet is so low (114 mg/dl) that American College of Cardiology website doesn't even accept it. The lowest it accepts is 130. 😎
Total is meaningless. 😱
@@jeffj318 LDL is 80 or 90 I think.
Wow so most doctors not only know jack-and-s#!t about nutrition but also have about as the same knowledge level on the risks of all the drugs they hand to you to take
Interesting.
NO NO NO if you are going to take a drug for life you MUST receive genetic counseling. Statins use specific metabolic pathways which you can test for. They should NEVER be prescribed without doing all available genetic testing to make sure they don’t wreck your liver and cause muscle pain. Here’s looking at you SLCO1b1 genetic pathway.
So if you have had a heart attack but have adopted a healthy diet and lifestyle there is no treatment regimen or protocol that would ever consider the cessation of statins? There is no way to safely measure your actual "endothelial" health and determine that they are no longer necessary?
I hope you get an answer. After 2 years of excruciating muscle pain and being told it’s because I’m old (68 now), I researched enough to decide to stop my Lipitor. Cardiology PA agreed to 2 weeks but hasn’t returned my calls. I’ve been off Lipitor for a month now. Between CoQ10 and not taking Lipitor, I’m still a bit weak but getting less pain each day. Having had a heart attack in 2017, it sounds like I should take a statin but don’t think I can bear the pain.
It’s almost like having to decide how I want to die? I’m vegetarian since 1975. Bad hearts run in my family. Hmm
@@tlsnana9539 how are your "numbers"? (LDL, blood pressure, triglycerides, sugar) How were they before your attack? I had a mild attack in 2019 and my statin rx is a low dose so I'd really like to get off it. My numbers are really good.
@@JoAnn_Vegan_USA if you are vegan , you can eat and boiled beans and brown rice and so on?.. along with vegetables?
Thanks 🙏🏻
@@tlsnana9539 you have a stent? Or bypass?
Man , 53 years old,189 cm high / 80 kilograms. I got a stent on February 2021 , I refused medication after one week, then 2 months later I started Keto diet for 2,5 months which increased my LDL cholesterol to 275. On 9 august 2021 I started Plant-Based diet. I am taking as well vitamin C Acerola , vitamin D3, vitamin k2.
I am an athletic body, 1, 88 cm high / 80 kg , I lost around 5 kilograms after implantation of stent ( angioplasty) .
Does anyone know if you can low the LDL cholesterol just with the diet and supplements which I am taking ❓❓❓
Does anyone know if I can keep my artery coronary unclogged long time only with diet and supplements ❓❓❓… without statins?!
Thank you , I will appreciate an sincere answer.
God bless you all.
@@tlsnana9539 I had troubles with Lipitor at high doses that got better at low doses but the troubles eliminated entirely when I switched to a different low-dose statin. Something to talk with your cardiologist about.
Hola! Recientemente me han diagnosticado una hipercolesterolemia familiar a través de un test genético. Gracias a la dieta basada en plantas que sigo, tengo un LDL de 130mg/dl. Mi cardiólogo insiste en que tome estatinas para tener 55mg/dl. Me resisto a tomar estatinas. ¿Seria peligroso si no las tomo aunque tenga un LDL casi normal?. Tengo 30 años. Gracias
Nobody should take statins without having had LDL-P tests and triglycerides tests to see the makeup of their LDL, and a CAC scan to determine whether they have ANY evidence of atherosclerosis.
I wonder what Dr Muhammad Alo would say?
Orange Skin works better than statins, without the negative effects?
Better to eat orange skin than having it. :D
Orange skin, not bad? Easy to get confused nowadays.
Their is a UA-camr Justin Rhodes that is dying in front of 800k subscribers got food poisoning from chicken he eats mostly animal base food like raw milk eggs butter meats etc Mabe Dr Gregor could go and save his life please reach out and your viewers could comment on a old video telling him benifits of Whole Foods plant base living he turned off comments on new videos please save his life
This is cleverly presented industry propaganda imo
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I now eat a low fat quasi vegetarian diet, exercise, AND take a statin. I get the benefits of both. Statins not only prevent further plaque build up and stabilize plaque they also can reduce it! Statins frigging work. Do both!
Also aspirin?… do you have any stent or bypass?
Thanks 🙏🏻
@@gabriel65304 asprin doesn't prevent plaque build-up, it prevents the formation of a thrombotic clot in the arteries. Nowadays it's only used, if you have had manifest atherosclerotic artery disease with a formation of such a clot, and hence needed an intervention (usually stenting).
Psychosomatic...right! You doctors come up with fancy term(s) to play down or refute the facts.😅
are statins vegan? i heard the make em out of pig
Lovastatin, the first statin, was discovered in a mold that grows on rice. Others are derivatives or wholly synthetic.
D Roy ewwwwww 🤢
@@rainbowofboxes8021 Penicillin was discovered in moulds as well, specifically the ones on bread and cheese. It's also now synthetically made.
Digital Moonlight 🤮
No one, their poison
Psh .. unreal
What would you call them then sweets? 😂
Shouldn't people let their doctors determine whether or not they should use a statin?
No.
They should work with their doctors on expectations, understanding the drugs amd its effect and develop a plan accordingly. A doctor is there to advise not dictate.
Not entirely. Different doctors have very different ideas. My first cardiologist wanted me on a very high dose of lipitor. My next one said I only needed the lowest dose of a different statin. It is good to be educated.
Oh? My doctor said I needed to go on statins. This was about 8 years ago. I decided to go Vegan instead. LDL went down from 139 to 89 in 6 months. I was pre diabetic, and my A1C is now 5.1. Various other measures went from warning levels - or higher (at one point my blood pressure was about 171/102 - yesterday it measured 102/60.) Would I have been as successful had I followed his advice?
When he tested me after that 6 month period he said, "whatever you are doing keep it up." I have - mostly
I chose to change my diet to WFPB. Ldl went from 218 to 129 in 12 months! Diet works!