@6:35 it's the v4 mobula 7 frame IIRC, the v2 was the thin and weak but ultralight one with asymmetrical struts, v3 was the heavyduty 2s one with thicker struts, v4 was a redesign for the moblite7. What was the v1?
@@NickBurnsFPV I did some research and the V1 frame was just the Bwhoop75 and it looked exactly like the V2 frame except it was notoriously brittle and the Bwhoop75 V2 was the improved plastic formula. I have a v2 frame that's about 2 years old in regular use and only needs some Welders glue occasionally.
@@BrandonBeans the V1 was immediately replaced with the V2 because it would break so easy. I like the V2 because it's the lightest 75mm frame out that I know of.
The v4 would be a nice one if they oriented the same motor holes like on v3. Otherwise, I'm only using the betafpv meteor75 or cockroach75 for that matter.
It’s great that there are so many flavors. I personally prefer 65mm with low kV motors when indoors because at my skill level the reduced speed & momentum are much more fun. Outdoors, 85mm 2S. I’m looking forward to those options with digital!
I'm definitely looking forward to your follow up video to hear your thoughts on the 85mm category. Running 2-3s batteries you can really start getting some impressive speed and performance at that size.
Thanks Nick! Just destroyed by uruav65 this weekend so I am in the market for another 65mm whoop. Looks like the mobula 6 is the next quad to join my fleet
Still like my mob6 over my Tinyhawk 2 (which I gave to my son). Maybe one day I’ll switch to ELRS or directly buy ELRS? Who knows. Im waiting for the upcoming video. Especially maybe I’ll build a naked vista toothpick or sometime similar
If you don't mind me asking, how have you mounted the Runcam nano 3 inside the crux 3 canopy? I've also noticed the jello when flying outside and I'd really like to have four points of contact, but the only canopy available for me with four points of contact is the crux 3 canopy. I know the Runcam nano 3 is 14mm wide and the crux 3 canopy is meant to fit a 14mm camera, but with the adapter for screw holes on the side makes it 18mm wide, so I'm wondering how it could be mounted.
It mounts up pretty natively. typically the runcam nano 3 has a plastic piece that goes around it to mount to the camera and has screw holes on the sides. This mounting piece is in the top right of this image. m.media-amazon.com/images/I/616cueFVx+L._AC_SL1100_.jpg
@@maeldrz to be honest though im starting to drift away from spi… ep2 style rx have been so rock solid for me… and spi not so much…. Im having trouble seeing the benefit anymore
After a bunch of whoops, I'm back down to a low profile Modulite6 and Mobula6 and Mobula7 1S, all with Unibell HM motors and ELRS. Waiting for improvements in VTX's and goggles in HDZero before I buy or build a Mobula7HDZ whoop. Mr. Shutterbug has built a very light 65mm HDZero whoop with custom superlight HDZero cam.
Question: Mobula 6, how do you fix the memory issue of the board when the 1s battery goes to low ? It losses its programming, and it doesn't work anymore after u install a fresh battery. I have only seen a couple complaints about this issue, but haven't seen the fix. And thanks for the great content as usual
I am not aware of a fix. I was told this was a hardware issue that was resolved at the manufacturer. The best thing to do it land and get a fresh battery before it gets to 3v. Battery voltage below 3.4v is damaging the battery health
Great video Nick. I still like my original mobula6 best although I will be converting it to ELRS and it will be even better. I have changed the canopy too. 👍 Whoop Whoop 👍
Nick, how did you get a Diamond F4 flight controller with Express LRS? I don't think I've seen those anywhere. Did you accidentally reveal something forthcoming?
@@NickBurnsFPV I've seen angry Don has mentioned it a few times on his channel as "coming soon" but hasn't shown the board, I don't think he has one yet. You just shown the first one to the public it looks like! Now we all want it! What motors are on it? 0802 or 0702s? What's the dry weight? Give us specs!
Great as always Nick and I just made a new purchase! Man I wanted the Mob 7 and Zorro but elrs scares me 😂 as I don’t know how to flash anything yet. RDQ shipped out my Nanohawk X this morning! About 1 hour after purchase. Giggity
Great work as always. I am wondering why the GepRc CineEye/Thinking P16/TinyGo didn't get more love from pilots? It is an incredible flyer, very durable, and is indoor/outdoor. Maybe it was the price point?
I didn't stop by to argue with ya don't worry. Just wanted to throw something out there, since you mentioned whoops and naked vistas. I bought a RTF DJI Megabee two x-mas ago, that came with the full air unit, I liked it but even back then, it was one of the biggest cinewhoops on the market, and it was heavy and clunky. Took prop guards off, and put 3.5" props on and flew it that way for a while then shelved it. Recently dusted it off, and rebuilt it. upgraded from stock 1404s to 1507s, got lighter weight 3d printed prop guards, an AIO board, with a naked vista. So basically lighter with better motors, I threw emu flight on for the hell of it, 1st time using, and the whole set up flew like a friggin dream, on stock Emu pids. it really is a whole new quad, One problem, naked vista was overheating like crazy, even on a cold day, 100mW, if I didn't take off within 20sec, overheat warnings. I'm thinking with old school ducts of the megabee encapsulating the hardware, not enough air. So, just to see if it would work, I just re-installed the 2 inner heatsinks on the vista, and left the top and bottom ones off. Obviously it added half the weight originally saved, but oddly enough the form factor at half naked, is much closer to full naked, than to a full vista. Anyway, haven't had a single overheat since, and it was 70 here in St Louis yesterday, and it still flies great. Sorry for the old man ramble, but wanted to share that with you, always good to have another option when building.
My mobula6 has suffered the common fc death, first was gyro issues and then an esc issue that finally put it into the spares box, didn’t really use it much either. although brushless is better for performance my old brushed inductrix original tiny whoop is still going strong, will I buy another mobula6? I’m not sure 🤔
2s whoops are kinda rare over the last 3 years. Most whoops are using an all in one board with the receiver in the board and surprisingly we haven’t seen spektrum on these boards. I am not aware of anything current in the bnf for spektrum. I suspect we might have to add our own receiver to a whoop. Which should be doable if the receiver can use 5 volts
might be a follow up with some setup tips ? will go for the mobula7 elrs .... still dreaming of bringing my old mobula7 hd(turtle) to betaflight 4.2 so i could switch tx power with a switch ...... anyone to share a diff for the 4.2 bf pids ?
You and your damn videos man. You cost me $1000 in two weeks of finding your channel. Stop the vids until my pockets fill back up or I sell some birds. 🤨
I've gone through 7 different whoop builds and sizes through IGOW and settled on the moblite7 with triblade hq props and bt2.0. Either the betafpv aio FC or Diamond. No other build even comes close. I mean 8,9,10,11 minutes of fly time even when freestylin'!
Is the moblite7 available in elrs 2.4 or do I have to build one with elrs I think the mobula7 is coming in elrs now but not sure if flight time the same as moblite7
@@Shauny_D or can you gut out a mobula7 with elrs into a moblite7 frame and will flight time be affected do to weight by of mobula7 electronics/hardware or better to do your own build with the diamond elrs board
@@carlosr.2027 Mob7 parts are 3-4 grams heavier so it wouldn’t fly as well. With whoops getting weight down is key. The mob7 was designed as a 2s build as well so if you stick with its 16000kv motors on 1s it’ll feel way to sluggish. best to build from scratch with new parts and save weight where ever you can
@@Shauny_D or buy the regular verison with frsky receiver and fly as is or would it allowed you to install a tbs tracer receiver on this regular frsky version or would I need to build one from scratch with tbs tracer I have a few tracer laying around ?
what FC would you recommend for a TKS 2S 2inches micro drone? I built one on a 5A board and it fried (?) after the second crash (one motor twitching, I guess that means ESC broken). I would like to build that again because I loved the feel, but I'm afraid of burning an FC per week. I would love to hear your recommendations.
I would look the happymodel x12 or the flywoo f405. The flywoo board requires soldering and comes in two flavors, one without a vtx and one with....5in1 vs 4in1.
@@NickBurnsFPV Thank you Nick! I just mounted the x12 and it flies again :) BTW is there a way to setup an Amp limit? I can't seem to find it in BF Molt bon any & Happy new year!
You have your faves, we got ours. I'm still flying an LDARC ET100 V2, the all-time King of Whoops. It's running JMaverick ESC firmware, BetaFlight 4.2.9, and I've made some serious mods to its build. I use it in a small apartment in Angle mode, and I think I've tweaked it so it's one of the best-handling examples of its type. Damn well should be after all the time I've put into it. LDARC recently stopped making them, which kinda sucks. It's a chonky unit, but it handles like a 75mm thanks to the mods I made to its hoops. The only downside is the stock VTX - it's adequate for my tiny space, but hopeless outside. I'll get around to dealing with that some day. . .
I'm new to tiny whoops but I really want to get into it!!! Can I ask anyone reading this for some buying advice... I used to fly years ago and got cheap entry level gear, Frsky FS-i6X transmitter and Eachine EV800 goggles for 4S outdoor flying. I'm now wondering if I should try to reuse that hardware with a Mobula 7 frsky OR consider ELRS and maybe hdzero too!?? A lot more money I guess I need special goggles and new transmitter but would it be worth it to get the best experience possible flying 1S indoors? If YES then what goggles and transmitter can you recommend? I'm from Denmark and the latest hardware is super limited and I'll get slammed by import taxes trying to order anything outside of EU. But I have a week in the States in November so I can potentially bring everything back with me. Somebody heeelp :D
The ev800 goggles are still used by many today. It will be a bit harder to find a whoop with a flysky receiver. Might need to get a different transmitter/radio.
I' m not surprised not to see the UZ65, although it's been my favorite since it's release: too bad no reviewer digged into this whoop that only needs good pid tunning to give fantastic flights. On top of this, the frame is only the best out there, light, strong, and with a tight battery tray.
I suspect either the props are off or your holding on to it. In either case that is normal. if you don't like it turn off air mode in the configurator.
I tried the meteor 65 frame and it's nice but I found that changing prop was much more difficult in that frame compared to the mobula 6 frame. I beat my props up a lot so I switched back to the mob 6 frames for my 65mm builds. broken motor wires are harder to fix then putting welder on a frame. just my experience
Chris, there hasn't been a recent giveaway. The message you received was likely from a spammer. Please note the name they use isn't me, tell tail giveaway.
Yes, That one was about 2 years go. I believe it came originally with the nano camera that had odd halo effects outside in bright sun, but the later versions of that same camera were better. This is the video of my review with the original camera ua-cam.com/video/M_jsGkzkXEg/v-deo.html
Better than what quad? These are all whoops were the firefly isn't really as it has prop guards and going to be very challenging to flying inside a typical house.
Hey Nick... I was wondering... I just got the new ELRS Mobula6 with the new 0802 motors. Was wondering... I have the first version with the 0702 motors and was thinking... put the new version on a 75mm frame and then update the v1 elrs mobula6 to newer firmware and use them both with my new betafpv 1w Module. What are your thoughts??? I would have both a 65mm and a 75mm without having to spend the extra cash on the new mobula7 right now. Would the new elrs mobula6 aio handle the 75mm frame? Thanks.
0802 handles 40mm props just fine, no worries, the tune may need a touch of a tweak but not everyone feels that way. The mobula 6 with spi elrs will require a pid tune as updating elrs is tied to flashing betaflight. take a cli backup or screen shot of the pid tune/setup which can be useful after flashing.
Hi NB, how do you clean your fc ?? Do you use isopropyl alcohol 99% ?? Pressurize air in can ?? thanks for advice ... Last question, the props of my mobula 6 are really hard to remove, how do you proceed ?
If the fc or components are dirty and not wet I use air, if it was wet in some way I use 99% alcohol. If it got wet while battery plugged in we might have damage or burned components. to remove props I hold the motor bell with one hand and with the other pinch the hub of the prop, twist back and forth and pull. I don't use tools to remove props, to much of a probability of bending a motor shaft.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE POLAR NANO? THAT IS WHAT MY I FLIGHT 75HD CAME WITH YOU HELP ME WITH ME DECISION. I PERONALY LOVE IT BUT I HERE PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT. ALSO ABOUT THE HEAT SINK MINE GETS PRETTY HOT AS IT IS SO IT THAT MORE OF A SEASONED FLYER AND NOT FOR A BEGINNER TO REMOVE THE HEAT SINKS
Hi Nick, I toilet tank my batteries on mobula 6's and 7's. I just turn the canopy 90 degrees, adjust flight controller orientation and remap the motors! I would be interested in your pid and rpm filtering setups on both of those.
I do The same on all my 1s whoops, it helps stop the battery from ejecting as easy, and I feel like it gives more response on the pitch axis in angle mode for faster acceleration out of corners.
maybe something like this. It allows us not to spend much, easier to fly and can be modded to start fpv on the cheap as well. ua-cam.com/video/v4yKI6tl_Po/v-deo.html
From all my drones I fly my Moblite 7 the most. Sometimes I feel guilty not giving enough attention to my other drones, guess what? While I recharge my other drone batteries, I rip a couple of Whoop batteries 🤣🤣
happy model has been in the micro space longer than most other manufacturers and they stick primarily to it. It would make sense their products tend to lead the way in the micro space.
Nick's favourite list, aka my shopping list. I have the Mobula7ELRS on the way to me currently, though my current daily driver is the Meteor75ELRS. I quite love the way that flies and I had a bunch of batteries from them anyway so I ended up nabbing that. I'm hoping the Mobula7 flies as well or better. Sticking with analog for now though, considering how much money I'm burning on that, I am just not ready for digital yet.
Nice review.. I am a whoop flyer to.. Q.. I fly my mobula7 battery to low it fell about 3feet from the ground.. and lost bind.. rebinds but power cycle.. and it unbinds.. any ideas?Thanks..
I, too like the Mobulas. I converted my Mob 6 hd to the 75mm frame (following your video that covered the conversion). After breaking the Mobula 7 v2 frame beyond repair, I switched to the meteor 75 frame, and It has performed well for me. Lots of crashes with no breakage. Keep up the fantastic content, Nick!
Hi Nick, I love the channel and your reviews. You've since become one of my "go to" FPV channels. I'm looking for a tiny whoop (for the house/indoors) that I can use with my DJI system. I only have 5" quads. I was wondering of you could give me some recommendations. I understand everything is a preference and people are/can be particular. I am new to whoops, never flown a whoop, except in a sim. Could you recommend one? I had three in mind (subject to availability) GEPRC thinking P16/GEPRC Rocket Plus/ iFlight Alpha A75/85/ TransTECH BEETLE. Just a general recommendation would be appreciated. Anyone other opinions or suggestion are also welcome. I would like to have a good first whoop experience.
Thank you. I suggest checking out Dax Neal's web ship. the Mobigital is likely the most indoor friendly dji whoop. Its a custom build that one could do. I have a video on it here, where I did build it myself. ua-cam.com/video/nSFaUcNsvL4/v-deo.html
My love comes largely from my desire to fly when ever I want. With a whoop I can always fly inside regardless of weather and in comfort. Its pretty rare I fly whoops outside other than for review purposes. The agility and performance of non whoops outside is what I desire outside. The prop wash handling is better on open prop as well. Whoops have the air resistance of the prop protection, I feel that decreases the ability to do what I want to when I am outside.
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@6:35 it's the v4 mobula 7 frame IIRC, the v2 was the thin and weak but ultralight one with asymmetrical struts, v3 was the heavyduty 2s one with thicker struts, v4 was a redesign for the moblite7. What was the v1?
Ah dang got it backwards. Thanks for that update
@@NickBurnsFPV I did some research and the V1 frame was just the Bwhoop75 and it looked exactly like the V2 frame except it was notoriously brittle and the Bwhoop75 V2 was the improved plastic formula. I have a v2 frame that's about 2 years old in regular use and only needs some Welders glue occasionally.
@@BrandonBeans the V1 was immediately replaced with the V2 because it would break so easy. I like the V2 because it's the lightest 75mm frame out that I know of.
@@661FPV Lol, my V1 Mobula broke hovering, line of sight, when I bumped something.
The v4 would be a nice one if they oriented the same motor holes like on v3. Otherwise, I'm only using the betafpv meteor75 or cockroach75 for that matter.
There's no ones opinion I value more when it comes to micros . Good choices 🙌
"about me", perfectly fine! I love your tips and opinions as I learn something from every video. Great stuff.
Fantastic tips, Nick! Thanks a bunch! 😃
I hope some day I can be able to fly inside as well. 😬
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
thats a video i really wanted lol thanks
really wait for 3.5 and 2.5 categories :D
It’s great that there are so many flavors. I personally prefer 65mm with low kV motors when indoors because at my skill level the reduced speed & momentum are much more fun. Outdoors, 85mm 2S. I’m looking forward to those options with digital!
Your opinions are important to this community. Thank you for doing this. We have always been happy with BnFs that you have suggested!
Nice shirt, too!
I'm definitely looking forward to your follow up video to hear your thoughts on the 85mm category. Running 2-3s batteries you can really start getting some impressive speed and performance at that size.
*v4 mobula7 frame, I got a spare one in the mail yesterday, be prepared right?
Thanks Nick! Just destroyed by uruav65 this weekend so I am in the market for another 65mm whoop. Looks like the mobula 6 is the next quad to join my fleet
Still like my mob6 over my Tinyhawk 2 (which I gave to my son). Maybe one day I’ll switch to ELRS or directly buy ELRS? Who knows.
Im waiting for the upcoming video. Especially maybe I’ll build a naked vista toothpick or sometime similar
Where is the 2023 edition this video is a year old!!!!!!!
If you don't mind me asking, how have you mounted the Runcam nano 3 inside the crux 3 canopy? I've also noticed the jello when flying outside and I'd really like to have four points of contact, but the only canopy available for me with four points of contact is the crux 3 canopy. I know the Runcam nano 3 is 14mm wide and the crux 3 canopy is meant to fit a 14mm camera, but with the adapter for screw holes on the side makes it 18mm wide, so I'm wondering how it could be mounted.
It mounts up pretty natively. typically the runcam nano 3 has a plastic piece that goes around it to mount to the camera and has screw holes on the sides. This mounting piece is in the top right of this image. m.media-amazon.com/images/I/616cueFVx+L._AC_SL1100_.jpg
Great video! Would love to hear your opinion on the best toothpick to buy at the moment
I have plans to cover the 3inch category yet too
It's the NBD Mosquito and Mosquito XL frames without a doubt.
Was that a diamond fc with spi elrs on the moblite6?
Yes I have been testing that one. Not sure if it’s being launched or if it is when
@@NickBurnsFPV thought i spotted it!!!!👀lol
I'm waiting that's one especially ! 😭
@@maeldrz me too!!!!
@@maeldrz to be honest though im starting to drift away from spi… ep2 style rx have been so rock solid for me… and spi not so much…. Im having trouble seeing the benefit anymore
Hello Nick..thank for sharing👍🙏
There’s a diamond f4 board with ELRS onboard? Did I miss that?
That's what I am wondering too.
Its not the diamond elrs board. Thats a new different 1S elrs 15A one. Happymodel will be releasing the diamond F4 middle of march.
@@chrisbee5481 2:30 that's a Elrs diamond F4 that's not out to the public yet
Wow. Cool. Nick Burns always on the inside track.
After a bunch of whoops, I'm back down to a low profile Modulite6 and Mobula6 and Mobula7 1S, all with Unibell HM motors and ELRS. Waiting for improvements in VTX's and goggles in HDZero before I buy or build a Mobula7HDZ whoop. Mr. Shutterbug has built a very light 65mm HDZero whoop with custom superlight HDZero cam.
The mob 6 is my favorite except that I have been through 4 aio boards.
I rotate my boards and canopy 90 degrees so I can toilet tank. It also helps with pre-loading/lean on race start since the battery isn’t in the way.
For some reason I am so lazy I want to just rotate the hardware rather than reorient and remap🤷🏻♂️🤦♂️
Thanks again, great vid
Fantastic vid Nick. Looking forward to the next vid !!!
Great content Nick thanks for sharing. I liked the mobula just didnt find it robust enough for me. Have 2 broken mobulas if you need parts cars lol
Question: Mobula 6, how do you fix the memory issue of the board when the 1s battery goes to low ? It losses its programming, and it doesn't work anymore after u install a fresh battery.
I have only seen a couple complaints about this issue, but haven't seen the fix.
And thanks for the great content as usual
I am not aware of a fix. I was told this was a hardware issue that was resolved at the manufacturer. The best thing to do it land and get a fresh battery before it gets to 3v. Battery voltage below 3.4v is damaging the battery health
Thanks for the great review Nick. My pick would be the IFlight C85HD, that one shows the most promise to fly outdoors, given my abilities. 👍
To me it's between the betafpv 65pro and the new mobula 7. I think the 65 pro take a the w thougb
Great video Nick. I still like my original mobula6 best although I will be converting it to ELRS and it will be even better. I have changed the canopy too. 👍 Whoop Whoop 👍
The new mob 7 hd 1s is just the mob 7 but its better coz it uses 1s (the normal mob 7 hd used 3s)
Sure, keep in mind how old this video is.
@@NickBurnsFPV yea i kinda did feel like the 1s is newer, idk
Nick, how did you get a Diamond F4 flight controller with Express LRS? I don't think I've seen those anywhere. Did you accidentally reveal something forthcoming?
Shhhhhh 🤫
Yea I kinda did 🤦♂️. I have had it a while and forgot it hadn’t been released.
@@NickBurnsFPV do you have any idea when it will release?
@@bbsheppo No I do not.
New coming whoop at 1:46 ? 😏
possibly, I don't know. I sometimes do some testing but never see the product in whole or part released.
@@NickBurnsFPV However I hope this FC will be released 👌
Umm did you just show the diamond F4 Elrs version?? That's not really out yet right? 2:30
Right, its not out and I don't know when or if it will be :(
@@NickBurnsFPV I've seen angry Don has mentioned it a few times on his channel as "coming soon" but hasn't shown the board, I don't think he has one yet. You just shown the first one to the public it looks like! Now we all want it! What motors are on it? 0802 or 0702s? What's the dry weight? Give us specs!
@@661FPV I don't think I should say. I may have gone to far already.
This is the video we have been waiting for :)
Thanks for the Update video Nick! love it!
Great as always Nick and I just made a new purchase! Man I wanted the Mob 7 and Zorro but elrs scares me 😂 as I don’t know how to flash anything yet. RDQ shipped out my Nanohawk X this morning! About 1 hour after purchase. Giggity
enjoy that quad!!
can i buy this bnf mobula elrs edition and fly with my e6 emaxx transmitter???
my opinion mob 6
Great work as always. I am wondering why the GepRc CineEye/Thinking P16/TinyGo didn't get more love from pilots? It is an incredible flyer, very durable, and is indoor/outdoor. Maybe it was the price point?
For inside flight they just aren't as good of a performer and in many cases designed for slower flight or incredibly noisy inside
Thanks alot
I didn't stop by to argue with ya don't worry. Just wanted to throw something out there, since you mentioned whoops and naked vistas. I bought a RTF DJI Megabee two x-mas ago, that came with the full air unit, I liked it but even back then, it was one of the biggest cinewhoops on the market, and it was heavy and clunky. Took prop guards off, and put 3.5" props on and flew it that way for a while then shelved it. Recently dusted it off, and rebuilt it. upgraded from stock 1404s to 1507s, got lighter weight 3d printed prop guards, an AIO board, with a naked vista. So basically lighter with better motors, I threw emu flight on for the hell of it, 1st time using, and the whole set up flew like a friggin dream, on stock Emu pids. it really is a whole new quad,
One problem, naked vista was overheating like crazy, even on a cold day, 100mW, if I didn't take off within 20sec, overheat warnings. I'm thinking with old school ducts of the megabee encapsulating the hardware, not enough air. So, just to see if it would work, I just re-installed the 2 inner heatsinks on the vista, and left the top and bottom ones off. Obviously it added half the weight originally saved, but oddly enough the form factor at half naked, is much closer to full naked, than to a full vista. Anyway, haven't had a single overheat since, and it was 70 here in St Louis yesterday, and it still flies great. Sorry for the old man ramble, but wanted to share that with you, always good to have another option when building.
Subbed. 👍
Nice roundup and some good tips on the Mobula6 options too.
My mobula6 has suffered the common fc death, first was gyro issues and then an esc issue that finally put it into the spares box, didn’t really use it much either.
although brushless is better for performance my old brushed inductrix original tiny whoop is still going strong, will I buy another mobula6? I’m not sure 🤔
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Just got my Mob7 ELRS. Does it come with a unique version of ELRS 2.0. Hoping all I need to do is enter my UID in Betaflight CLI and then bind.
Not unique in terms of proprietary. I believe we do need to bind at 250hz though
Hi nick great video man, could you help me I'm trying to find a 2s whoop that will work on my dx9 spectrum, any suggestions? Thanks alot nick
2s whoops are kinda rare over the last 3 years. Most whoops are using an all in one board with the receiver in the board and surprisingly we haven’t seen spektrum on these boards. I am not aware of anything current in the bnf for spektrum. I suspect we might have to add our own receiver to a whoop. Which should be doable if the receiver can use 5 volts
Mobula 6,7 or the tinyhawk 2? Or what would you choose for fast fun indoor flight? As I share the same style of flight as you do! Thanks ahead!!
I prefer 75mm, for performance and size inside. With that of those I would chose the mob7 1s elrs
might be a follow up with some setup tips ?
will go for the mobula7 elrs ....
still dreaming of bringing my old mobula7 hd(turtle) to betaflight 4.2 so i could switch tx power with a switch ...... anyone to share a diff for the 4.2 bf pids ?
Just bought a mobula 7 1s hd spi elrs. I bought 650mah's. It flies 4 minutes. should I have bought 450's?
It depends what you want out of the flights. More aggressive or agile flights need lower weight, longer smoother flights generally more.
I really love the 2s 85mm bunch :)
Fly it inside?
King of micros 👊🏼🤣 thanks for your informative videos always brother 👍🏼
You and your damn videos man. You cost me $1000 in two weeks of finding your channel. Stop the vids until my pockets fill back up or I sell some birds. 🤨
oh shoot, sorry. make sure you got all your bills covered before the hobby.
@@NickBurnsFPV Oh yeah I’m good. It’s just that now I can’t do my other hobbies until I get rid of some unnecessary things
How did you get ELRS on the moblite? Is it just a simple modification to the board?
No, that was a prototype of the mobeetle6
What canopy did you use with Mobula 6 conversion to Meteor65 frame?
That is a goober canopy from newbeedrone
I've gone through 7 different whoop builds and sizes through IGOW and settled on the moblite7 with triblade hq props and bt2.0. Either the betafpv aio FC or Diamond. No other build even comes close. I mean 8,9,10,11 minutes of fly time even when freestylin'!
Is the moblite7 available in elrs 2.4 or do I have to build one with elrs I think the mobula7 is coming in elrs now but not sure if flight time the same as moblite7
@@carlosr.2027 i don’t think it is rtf but there is a the same diamond board you can buy with elrs. So it wouldn’t be hard to build.
@@Shauny_D or can you gut out a mobula7 with elrs into a moblite7 frame and will flight time be affected do to weight by of mobula7 electronics/hardware or better to do your own build with the diamond elrs board
@@carlosr.2027 Mob7 parts are 3-4 grams heavier so it wouldn’t fly as well. With whoops getting weight down is key. The mob7 was designed as a 2s build as well so if you stick with its 16000kv motors on 1s it’ll feel way to sluggish. best to build from scratch with new parts and save weight where ever you can
@@Shauny_D or buy the regular verison with frsky receiver and fly as is or would it allowed you to install a tbs tracer receiver on this regular frsky version or would I need to build one from scratch with tbs tracer I have a few tracer laying around ?
My transmitter is jumper tlite with elrs on the back. just really miss having a lanyard looked everywhere any solutions out there anyone know about?
what FC would you recommend for a TKS 2S 2inches micro drone? I built one on a 5A board and it fried (?) after the second crash (one motor twitching, I guess that means ESC broken). I would like to build that again because I loved the feel, but I'm afraid of burning an FC per week. I would love to hear your recommendations.
I would look the happymodel x12 or the flywoo f405. The flywoo board requires soldering and comes in two flavors, one without a vtx and one with....5in1 vs 4in1.
@@NickBurnsFPV Thank you Nick! I just mounted the x12 and it flies again :) BTW is there a way to setup an Amp limit? I can't seem to find it in BF
Molt bon any & Happy new year!
@@miquelmarti6537 no amp limit, there is a motor limit.
ni Nick may i ask where did you get that diamond fc with elrs built in? i can find it anywhere...
Its not released yet. :(
@@NickBurnsFPV well.. when it come out the gyro wont be mpu6000 anymore
Hey Nick, you got scammers replying to people on your channel. Just a heads up
ack, I do see a few. I have reported them to YT.
You have your faves, we got ours. I'm still flying an LDARC ET100 V2, the all-time King of Whoops. It's running JMaverick ESC firmware, BetaFlight 4.2.9, and I've made some serious mods to its build. I use it in a small apartment in Angle mode, and I think I've tweaked it so it's one of the best-handling examples of its type. Damn well should be after all the time I've put into it. LDARC recently stopped making them, which kinda sucks. It's a chonky unit, but it handles like a 75mm thanks to the mods I made to its hoops. The only downside is the stock VTX - it's adequate for my tiny space, but hopeless outside. I'll get around to dealing with that some day. . .
I'm new to tiny whoops but I really want to get into it!!! Can I ask anyone reading this for some buying advice... I used to fly years ago and got cheap entry level gear, Frsky FS-i6X transmitter and Eachine EV800 goggles for 4S outdoor flying. I'm now wondering if I should try to reuse that hardware with a Mobula 7 frsky OR consider ELRS and maybe hdzero too!?? A lot more money I guess I need special goggles and new transmitter but would it be worth it to get the best experience possible flying 1S indoors? If YES then what goggles and transmitter can you recommend? I'm from Denmark and the latest hardware is super limited and I'll get slammed by import taxes trying to order anything outside of EU. But I have a week in the States in November so I can potentially bring everything back with me. Somebody heeelp :D
The ev800 goggles are still used by many today. It will be a bit harder to find a whoop with a flysky receiver. Might need to get a different transmitter/radio.
The 75mm Mobula7 1s can be used with 300mah batteries?
The flight will be very short and the battery will need to be secured as it won't stay in the battery tray
Where do u get that canopy u have on the mobula 6 nick?
That is the mobula7 elrs canopy. Very new not likely available as an individual part just yet
I just bought the iflight protec 25 pusher. So far I love it. But did hear about durability. So I guess I'll find out.
I' m not surprised not to see the UZ65, although it's been my favorite since it's release: too bad no reviewer digged into this whoop that only needs good pid tunning to give fantastic flights. On top of this, the frame is only the best out there, light, strong, and with a tight battery tray.
I like my UZ65 but many people don't like the way it flies. I broke a couple of frames, wouldn't say it's the best.
@@knoopx do you have any frame you haven't broken once? Compared with mobula6 presented here, it is just night and day!
@@cedricgrandseigne yes, the (old) betafpv meteor frame
Why when I arm my mobula 7 the motors start at full speed instead of idling
I suspect either the props are off or your holding on to it. In either case that is normal. if you don't like it turn off air mode in the configurator.
You didn't mention what size motors on the mob 6 19 or 25 thousand kv
25000kv is my preference. I think I mention that, but I may have not stressed it as my preference.
I tried the meteor 65 frame and it's nice but I found that changing prop was much more difficult in that frame compared to the mobula 6 frame. I beat my props up a lot so I switched back to the mob 6 frames for my 65mm builds. broken motor wires are harder to fix then putting welder on a frame. just my experience
Thanks NIck never won a drawing before. let me know if you need more info.
Chris, there hasn't been a recent giveaway. The message you received was likely from a spammer. Please note the name they use isn't me, tell tail giveaway.
@@NickBurnsFPV sorry to hear
Have you seen the GEPRC Thinking HD?
Yes, That one was about 2 years go. I believe it came originally with the nano camera that had odd halo effects outside in bright sun, but the later versions of that same camera were better. This is the video of my review with the original camera ua-cam.com/video/M_jsGkzkXEg/v-deo.html
i think its hilarious that we need to state that it is personal opinion and others might not agree :(
keep doing your thing youre amazing!!
For your 65mm whoops, have you converted them to Bi-blade props yet? I like how my Mob6 ELRS flies on Bi-blades and converted my others to Bi-blades.
I have flown many whoops with biblades. I prefer tri blades, likely do to my heavy cornering flight style.
What do you think about flywoo firefly? is it better?
Better than what quad? These are all whoops were the firefly isn't really as it has prop guards and going to be very challenging to flying inside a typical house.
Is it ok to use crossfire on a tinywhoop for race?
yea, but it adds weight with an external rx, which puts the quad at a disadvantage.
Hey Nick... I was wondering... I just got the new ELRS Mobula6 with the new 0802 motors. Was wondering... I have the first version with the 0702 motors and was thinking... put the new version on a 75mm frame and then update the v1 elrs mobula6 to newer firmware and use them both with my new betafpv 1w Module. What are your thoughts??? I would have both a 65mm and a 75mm without having to spend the extra cash on the new mobula7 right now. Would the new elrs mobula6 aio handle the 75mm frame?
Thanks.
0802 handles 40mm props just fine, no worries, the tune may need a touch of a tweak but not everyone feels that way. The mobula 6 with spi elrs will require a pid tune as updating elrs is tied to flashing betaflight. take a cli backup or screen shot of the pid tune/setup which can be useful after flashing.
@@NickBurnsFPV Thank you sir. Do you think the mobula7 pid tune would work with the the frame upgrade?
Thanks again for all the help.
@@ChristKrew-Rev1.8 It has for me. I would hope it would for you as well.
@@NickBurnsFPV Thank you again so much!!!!!
Nick your the reason I bought the Mobula6. Thank you
Hi NB, how do you clean your fc ?? Do you use isopropyl alcohol 99% ?? Pressurize air in can ?? thanks for advice ... Last question, the props of my mobula 6 are really hard to remove, how do you proceed ?
If the fc or components are dirty and not wet I use air, if it was wet in some way I use 99% alcohol. If it got wet while battery plugged in we might have damage or burned components. to remove props I hold the motor bell with one hand and with the other pinch the hub of the prop, twist back and forth and pull. I don't use tools to remove props, to much of a probability of bending a motor shaft.
@@NickBurnsFPV Hi thanks for advice !!
@@NickBurnsFPV Can of air ??
@@emmanuelcheveau4891 we can do that but be careful canned air can have liquid come out if not held upright.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE POLAR NANO? THAT IS WHAT MY I FLIGHT 75HD CAME WITH YOU HELP ME WITH ME DECISION. I PERONALY LOVE IT BUT I HERE PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT. ALSO ABOUT THE HEAT SINK MINE GETS PRETTY HOT AS IT IS SO IT THAT MORE OF A SEASONED FLYER AND NOT FOR A BEGINNER TO REMOVE THE HEAT SINKS
It looks pretty good to me. I think the biggest downside is it doesn't do 120fps, like the nebula pro and nebula nano pro.
Hi Nick, I toilet tank my batteries on mobula 6's and 7's. I just turn the canopy 90 degrees, adjust flight controller orientation and remap the motors! I would be interested in your pid and rpm filtering setups on both of those.
I do The same on all my 1s whoops, it helps stop the battery from ejecting as easy, and I feel like it gives more response on the pitch axis in angle mode for faster acceleration out of corners.
I should have acknowledge that option. I am so lazy I haven't don't it more than a time or two. :)
@@NickBurnsFPV one more toilet tanker here :)
By the way the WhatsApp spammer is hitting your channel too.
@@nikotttin Today? Which video?
@@NickBurnsFPV this very one here 🙄
If you want to draw up a frame I will 3d print it for you
Thank you for the offer, I am not much of a designer, more I look at a frame and identify changes I want :)
@@NickBurnsFPV If you ever draw it on a napkin or something I will handle the design if you change your mind.
Any suggestions for a 9 year old to get them started? Something a little easier to fly?
maybe something like this. It allows us not to spend much, easier to fly and can be modded to start fpv on the cheap as well. ua-cam.com/video/v4yKI6tl_Po/v-deo.html
@@NickBurnsFPV awesome thank you!
Anyone know when the Zorros might be stocked?
Why not moblite7 with another canopy?
That’s essentially what most of my “custom” whoops are
From all my drones I fly my Moblite 7 the most. Sometimes I feel guilty not giving enough attention to my other drones, guess what? While I recharge my other drone batteries, I rip a couple of Whoop batteries 🤣🤣
Warm up packs 😁
I see we both are happymodel fans xD add toothpick category and HM probably wins another 2.
happy model has been in the micro space longer than most other manufacturers and they stick primarily to it. It would make sense their products tend to lead the way in the micro space.
Nick's favourite list, aka my shopping list. I have the Mobula7ELRS on the way to me currently, though my current daily driver is the Meteor75ELRS. I quite love the way that flies and I had a bunch of batteries from them anyway so I ended up nabbing that. I'm hoping the Mobula7 flies as well or better. Sticking with analog for now though, considering how much money I'm burning on that, I am just not ready for digital yet.
I still fly mainly analog. I don’t find the same performance and thus fun when I go to dji/air unit lite
Your opinion is very valuable! You have alot of time in these and really helps us out! I appreciate ya man🤜
Great video Nick!!! I have the mobula 6 I want to put the parts in a meteor 65pro frame with the 35mm props!!! Is that doable?
sure, likely require some tuning.
Love your work pal, especially when it’s your own opinion lol
🤠👍
Do you know the eta for the hdzero 1s board?
Sorry I don’t. I suspect hdzero production is running full tilt for all the hdzero products
@@NickBurnsFPV That’s good news for me 😁👍👍
Could you also make a whoop-video suitable for the European market?
what is a whop suitable for the European market?
cinelog25 is really a grate one. but yea I replaced like 4 sets of ducts and on its second frame now haha.
yea, the prop protection doesn't take much abuse.
thank you for your opinions. always nice to hear a honest one stated as that an opinion.
lol i got 1 whoooop
Nice review.. I am a whoop flyer to.. Q.. I fly my mobula7 battery to low it fell about 3feet from the ground.. and lost bind.. rebinds but power cycle.. and it unbinds.. any ideas?Thanks..
We need to avoid the battery going below 3volts. This is also not good for battery health
This doesn’t happen on all whoops the first batch or so of the mobula6 has this issue. It’s a hardware fix that the manufacturer had to fix
I, too like the Mobulas. I converted my Mob 6 hd to the 75mm frame (following your video that covered the conversion). After breaking the Mobula 7 v2 frame beyond repair, I switched to the meteor 75 frame, and It has performed well for me. Lots of crashes with no breakage. Keep up the fantastic content, Nick!
Hi Nick, I love the channel and your reviews. You've since become one of my "go to" FPV channels. I'm looking for a tiny whoop (for the house/indoors) that I can use with my DJI system. I only have 5" quads. I was wondering of you could give me some recommendations. I understand everything is a preference and people are/can be particular. I am new to whoops, never flown a whoop, except in a sim. Could you recommend one? I had three in mind (subject to availability) GEPRC thinking P16/GEPRC Rocket Plus/ iFlight Alpha A75/85/ TransTECH BEETLE. Just a general recommendation would be appreciated. Anyone other opinions or suggestion are also welcome. I would like to have a good first whoop experience.
Thank you. I suggest checking out Dax Neal's web ship. the Mobigital is likely the most indoor friendly dji whoop. Its a custom build that one could do. I have a video on it here, where I did build it myself. ua-cam.com/video/nSFaUcNsvL4/v-deo.html
@@NickBurnsFPV A sincere Thank-you.
What do you mean by “toilet tank build”?
battery side to side rather than front to back.
@@NickBurnsFPV 😂
Hey Nick, what are your reasons for loving whoops? How do they fly in comparisons to regular X-Frames without prop guards? Thanks!
My love comes largely from my desire to fly when ever I want. With a whoop I can always fly inside regardless of weather and in comfort. Its pretty rare I fly whoops outside other than for review purposes. The agility and performance of non whoops outside is what I desire outside. The prop wash handling is better on open prop as well. Whoops have the air resistance of the prop protection, I feel that decreases the ability to do what I want to when I am outside.
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks!
Whoohoo! Thanks! What did I win?
RaceDayQuads bitly link is broken fyi