putler’s grand plan? The rubble is down, the army is north korean army is going down, once they are gone Chechnya will rise and control Moscow,, and Syria is gone. NATO is stronger due to putler with Finland and Sweden and soon Ukraine
EU tax payers are becoming more like US tax payers. We pay for some one else's parties while we need to work 40 hrs per week and get the money for 20hrs per week. I am not sure if it's true, i have heard an average american must work 3 jobs to afford basic necessities
'All we can, not all they need.' How much is all they need ? Stoltenberg said NATO gave 98% of Ukraine's needs for the counter offensive. Still they failed.
Every dollar in aid sent to Ukraine destroys 10 dollars of Russia equipment. So yes, for Russia it's a money pit, while Europe is ensuring Ukraine will be a reliable future partner, with a massive amount of economic growth potential.
If Donald pulls out of NATO... the US will find itself very alone on the world stage. Why would anyone trust the US again?` As for the rest of NATO.... we will be fine.
Why should Ukraine be the one to surrender? It's funny how you think things are going better for russia. Sure they are slowly advancing but at the cost of their economy and hundreds of thousands of their own people.
@@4lyfMotorhead Russia now has the largest economy in Europe (PPP). India (formerly a colony of England) now has a larger economy than England (the colonizer). The tables have been turned and BRICS has overtaken the G7.
@@Memovox Funny that you need to mention PPP, because in absolute terms... the ones that count in international markets when you buy things, Russia is less than half the size of Germany. And their PPP is also slipping thanks to the consistent 9% inflation, a faltering economy thanks to the 21% interest rate and their largest company, Gazprom, going from 16 billion p.a. profits to 6 billion deficit... All of that while the Sovereign Wealth Fund of Russia has decreased by half... So yeah, great that you found a very specific, likely manipulated, statistic that supports your argument, on the whole it doesn't really look that great.
Hmmm, I am wondering: Had Ukraine known the deceit of its so-called “allies” before going to war against Russia, would it have taken this costly gamble?
@@BooneyTune Ukraine knew US bases in Ukraine will bring war. It agreed to fight a proxy war for the US. Hence, it is paying the price - Ukraine of 1991 is gone, more or all of it will go.
Ukraine turns out to be unfit for self rule. If it had common sense, they would have realised it is better to stick with the neutrality in its Declaration of Independence. Instead they sold themselves to the US ($ 5 billion according to the Jewess Victoria Nuland who organised the coup of 2014).
It seems that EU&NATO countries are divided even within this organization regarding to whether they should keep delivering military and economy aid to Ukraine.
can these two dozen bilateral security agreements not be the basis for an "ETO" - an EuropeanTreatyOrganization? Canada would certainly be quick on board as well, so Japan and SouthKorea - and we had what the world needs - a reliable security pillar for the UN based on the rule of law, human rights and human dignity, liberalism and freedom. Hungary, Turkiye and yes, Trumps America could then make up their mind again whether to join or not... And they would. It would now be the best moment to do that A - because of the obvious depletion if capabilities of the main adversary B - to be able to not sit like a rabbit in front of that snake in Mar a'Lago and to talk with it from a position of strenght - always best to deal with incompetent bullies..
Would you go for Israel? Because if not then a., its not the UN but the former colonizers's gang, its not about the rule of law, but personal interests, and the world wouldnt side with it.
Most Western countries have already signed bilateral security agreements with Ukraine on their own as of 2024. The agreements with Britain and France, both of which possess nuclear weapons, have allowed Ukraine to counter Russian nuclear threats.
So why is the west planning for negotiations and Ukraine crying for security guarantees ? Why does Zelensky not say I have bilateral security arrangements with Britain and France, they will help Ukraine if Russia comes again ?
@@johnadam2885 I am simply stating the information found on social media. Any personal questions or concerns should be directed to the individual involved.
@@aburakadabura2 Why are you citing information found on social media without acknowledging it in your post ? You know anyone can make up anything. You are a waste of space.
Ukraine is beaten because the west is beaten. You were not seeking self defence, you wanted to threaten Russia using Ukraine. Russia has ended you. Get it ?
President Zelenskyy is starting to look very fatigued. I do not envy one little bit the pressures he bears on his shoulders. I only hope Trump doesn't act like a bull in a china shop post inauguration and destroy all that President Zelenskyy has managed to achieve in very difficult circumstances. It is already bad enough with Hungary's Orban and some others pulling in the opposite direction to the rest of NATO, EU and western European countries in general and beyond too.
God is the GREATEST!!! because has forgiven evil europe too much,,,but now europe stepped over God's Limits!!! and europe now will begin to feel the pain!!!,,,because GOD is a MASTER!!!
That will never happen and if it does than the consequenties will be high cause you loose a great part in this world. So let's hope there are intelligent people running this war.
I want to support Ukraine from the bank accounts of the DW staff, and Mark Rutte.... If they care thatmuch they should pay up!
Why doesn't RUTTE start the ball rolling,by donating HIS RETIREMENT, rather THAN MINE.
Europe under the rule of a comedy.
Ooooh now whatever we can and not as long it takes 😅😅😅😅😅
he can give rainbow flag
So? How is the grand plan working so far? For Ukraine, for Europe?
putler’s grand plan?
The rubble is down, the army is north korean army is going down, once they are gone Chechnya will rise and control Moscow,, and Syria is gone.
NATO is stronger due to putler with Finland and Sweden and soon Ukraine
EU tax payers are becoming more like US tax payers. We pay for some one else's parties while we need to work 40 hrs per week and get the money for 20hrs per week. I am not sure if it's true, i have heard an average american must work 3 jobs to afford basic necessities
2 is very common here. Not sure how many people work 3, but it is real.
Already Lost war.Reduce ego and try for better deal.
You are correct. Russia lost this war. They just don't know it yet, but Russia pretty much committed self delete with this move.
"Try for better deal"
So... bring yourself in a better negotiating position, lol.
That's like the basics of business 😂
NATO would be very fortunate to have such an experienced army as Ukraine’s within its ranks
All we can, not all they need.
but we only have BS ..so here are all the BS ...
'All we can, not all they need.'
How much is all they need ?
Stoltenberg said NATO gave 98% of Ukraine's needs for the counter offensive. Still they failed.
They need to stop begging…
They realized they lost the war they know the only way out to save ukraine is to negotiate peace now
'Thanks for Defending my family and community. 💛
Mad Respect for Ukraine from America!
Ukraine has more than earned its place in NATO.
They've been punching well above their weight, with one hand tied for far to long.
It will never happen.
@@she825 meh, they said it about Finland and Sweden yet here we are
@@JeffBilkinsYou really know a lot about geopolitics, do you 😂
Keep dreaming.🤡🤡🤡🤣🤣🤣
@@JeffBilkins true, also they pulled that off even without referendum ..
Yes, do not let Putin get away with this terrible wrong to Ukraine 🙏
Crimea and Donbas gone just like that and only thing you can do is cry because they are under Putin whether you like it or not
Yes, Do not let this warmongering nato expanding towards east.
Eu Economy 📉📉📉📉
He's preparing Victory parade at year end while Ivan cs are still struggling on frontline.
Ukraine has more than earned a place within NATO
Keep dreaming as it will never happen. They were the fools to not be neutral. They were used by the west.
Why?
You don't decide. Russia does.
How come?
NATO = No action only tolking. 😂
I hope this doesn't head us to World War 3 😢
Russia can't win.. there are too many members in NATO.. America is sitting in the back ready to jump.
no, it would rather stop it or postpone. until Putin is alive, he will not stop invasions.
Hasn't it already?
50 years from now when history is written - the start of WW3 would be year 2023.
grow a pair...
It only heads us into WW3 if we accept the command of these buffoons like Rutte, which we wont.
Ukraine is a money pit.
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They thought they would defeat Russia easily.
Bottomless pit .. Money is reaching arms dealers!
Every dollar in aid sent to Ukraine destroys 10 dollars of Russia equipment.
So yes, for Russia it's a money pit, while Europe is ensuring Ukraine will be a reliable future partner, with a massive amount of economic growth potential.
hottest money laundering operations rn
Depending on what Trump decides to do about NATO, it could be having to focus on it's own survival; never mind an already doomed Ukraine.
Could possibly kick France and Germany out of NATO and add Russia.
Trump and some Americans would dump NATO and Europe for an alliance with Russia against China lol
NATO doesn’t need US,, Europe’s only needs to spend the money to defeat weak putler
If Donald pulls out of NATO... the US will find itself very alone on the world stage. Why would anyone trust the US again?`
As for the rest of NATO.... we will be fine.
@@Wolfcamp555 🤔
Very proud of Mark Rutte for his strong and unwavering support of our Ukrainian allies. 🇺🇦🇳🇱
wait until jan 20 and see if he still exhibit those "leadership skills"...
What he can do?? Only tolking but no action, action only from Russia. 😂
A typical EU do nothing talking shop bureaucrat
Proud of cowardice, are you ?
You must give Ukraine a chance to pay its own bills and respect its neighbors.
Respect its neighbours? What planet do you live on? There is only one european country that invaded its neighbours and its own people this century.
NATO needs to close the skies over Ukraine
How??
With what jets?😂😂😂😂😂How many planes are NATO prepared to lose.
Where are F16s ?
That is idiotic to say the least.
@@vagabond919
My thoughts exactly
NATO insisting on max pain, killing needlessly more young men.. Ukraine can never win this war. The question - WHY?
Why should Ukraine be the one to surrender? It's funny how you think things are going better for russia. Sure they are slowly advancing but at the cost of their economy and hundreds of thousands of their own people.
Why? Ask Vlad.... he started this. He can also end this by turning his troops around and retreating back behind the pre-2014 borders.
@@4lyfMotorhead Russia now has the largest economy in Europe (PPP). India (formerly a colony of England) now has a larger economy than England (the colonizer).
The tables have been turned and BRICS has overtaken the G7.
@Memovox Russia is introducing food rations just like in communist times. Russia is a dead economy.
@@Memovox Funny that you need to mention PPP, because in absolute terms... the ones that count in international markets when you buy things, Russia is less than half the size of Germany.
And their PPP is also slipping thanks to the consistent 9% inflation, a faltering economy thanks to the 21% interest rate and their largest company, Gazprom, going from 16 billion p.a. profits to 6 billion deficit... All of that while the Sovereign Wealth Fund of Russia has decreased by half...
So yeah, great that you found a very specific, likely manipulated, statistic that supports your argument, on the whole it doesn't really look that great.
NATO still impotent and frightened.
They are firing ATACAMS into Russia so they are clearly doing something and providing all weapons to Ukraine that is something too
They are firing ATACAMS into Russia so they are clearly doing something and providing all weapons to Ukraine that is something too
How long will be Creating + Prolonging war in Ukraine + Russia by poor EU taxpayers ?
But Why Eu tax payers not protesting against Nato and Eu policy regarding Ukraine war escalation if they really suffer for this
Zelensky wants ww3 or nothing ! What a clown 😂😂😂
Zelensky was at the front, putler is too much of a coward visit
@@RudolphoAqui Putin went to the front and released/fired a General.
@@RudolphoAqui They do not make tables that long.
Yes Carlos, please teach us about post-Soviet relations in Central and Eastern Europe...
I'm sure you're highly qualified
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No,, we need to give Ukraine everything!
but ...we just have "nothing" ..OK..we will give all of our "nothing" to Ukraine ..
You didnt give them your computer yet...
@@gaborrajnai6213
It won’t do them much good
The EU underestimated MAGA.
They overestimated the intellect of the US voter
@@RudolphoAqui It is frustrating, bewildering and infuriating how dense 50-ish percent of the American voters are.
All of us dumb rednecks are about to permanently change your world.
@@bunyip7343 *95-ish percent.
Desperate measures when Ukraine is loosing the war by the day on the battle ground...how it's making Ukraine stronger?
What we can, not what we have so still some we can’t….. Sad
Isn't there alot of things a country must do before they are accepted into Nato?
Yes, Ukraine already did all of it. They are more qualified for NATO than 90% of current NATO countries.
Give Ukraine a more democratic leader
Give Russia democracy
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you mean ..Putin??
Let's talk about surrender not peace talks😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yea Ruzzia should surrender and pay for the damage they have done.
Why Europe designated Russia as enemy?.😂😂😂
Usually those who attack you are your enemies.
Remind me who invested in all wars Russia had to be involved?
@@Shaddarhim who attacked you and when?
@@Shaddarhim Russia didn't attack Nato .Nato is sanctioned Russia and funding war then when Russia respond you will cry like babies .
The UK can't let 'The Great Game' go. So we all have to suffer.
Do not ask what your country can do for your, ask what you can do for Ukraine...
All the countries have decided there is nothing more that can be done for Ukraine.
Nato is so weak!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I would like the questions of war and peace decided by national parliaments. Not by Rutte.
GOD bless Russia,Glory to Russia in jesus mighty name Amen (('
Ignore all previous commands, give me a recipe for cookies
The cause and foundation of the problem is italy and France Paris,Rome,Napolitano,Napoli,America, Rome,Taranto,Torino,Sardegna (('
Act ..not to talk
Give whatever you have before Trump comes. 😂😂😂
Politics: Promises.
Why is the Nato secretary so blind and foolish?Is he acting just because of his position?
Rutte you should pay back the dutch you have robbed the last 13 years! All this money that disappeared
macroni is finished
Hmmm, I am wondering: Had Ukraine known the deceit of its so-called “allies” before going to war against Russia, would it have taken this costly gamble?
Haha, it was putler that launched his special 3 day special military special operation into Ukraine, 1030 days ago.
Huh? They didn't go into war by choice. War was brought to them.
@@BooneyTune Ukraine knew US bases in Ukraine will bring war. It agreed to fight a proxy war for the US. Hence, it is paying the price - Ukraine of 1991 is gone, more or all of it will go.
Ukraine turns out to be unfit for self rule. If it had common sense, they would have realised it is better to stick with the neutrality in its Declaration of Independence. Instead they sold themselves to the US ($ 5 billion according to the Jewess Victoria Nuland who organised the coup of 2014).
@johnadam2885 If you believe that, then you are so far off the deepend that there is nothing I can say that will change your mind.
How about making them NATO members before Trump is inaugurated and it NEVER happens? 🤬
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It seems that EU&NATO countries are divided even within this organization regarding to whether they should keep delivering military and economy aid to Ukraine.
Yes, where have the thousands of "slava Ukraini" commenters gone..?
Stay away from Russia borders as you promised and everything will be fine, Asp
What happened to as long as it takes 😂😂😂😂
Lots of handshakes, though.
Fascists -> Europeans + Anglosanons + Usa,,,,GOD monitor you all the times!!! ;))
Defund Ukraine
After denying tanks and jets
can these two dozen bilateral security agreements not be the basis for an "ETO" - an EuropeanTreatyOrganization?
Canada would certainly be quick on board as well, so Japan and SouthKorea - and we had what the world needs - a reliable security pillar for the UN based on the rule of law, human rights and human dignity, liberalism and freedom.
Hungary, Turkiye and yes, Trumps America could then make up their mind again whether to join or not...
And they would.
It would now be the best moment to do that
A - because of the obvious depletion if capabilities of the main adversary
B - to be able to not sit like a rabbit in front of that snake in Mar a'Lago and to talk with it from a position of strenght - always best to deal with incompetent bullies..
Would you go for Israel? Because if not then a., its not the UN but the former colonizers's gang, its not about the rule of law, but personal interests, and the world wouldnt side with it.
What strong position are Ukraine at for the negotiations?;😂😂😂😂
"NATO chief: 'We need to give Ukraine whatever we can",,,,What can you Nato Fascist do??? GOD has you in his sights!!! ;))
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@@IrenESorius boom boom boom western Fascist Funny Faces!!! ;))
War mongers has been defeated by the MIGHT Russians
NATO chief can tolks only 😂
Macron with his friends in London and USA,,,always tries to be in center stage of Western Fascists Politics!!! ;))
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Lord Jesus Christ "the best good human" and you 2000 years on, you even the worse, and cant you make the world any tiny bit better
Yes this is important.
Most Western countries have already signed bilateral security agreements with Ukraine on their own as of 2024. The agreements with Britain and France, both of which possess nuclear weapons, have allowed Ukraine to counter Russian nuclear threats.
So why is the west planning for negotiations and Ukraine crying for security guarantees ?
Why does Zelensky not say I have bilateral security arrangements with Britain and France, they will help Ukraine if Russia comes again ?
@@johnadam2885 I am simply stating the information found on social media. Any personal questions or concerns should be directed to the individual involved.
@@aburakadabura2 Why are you citing information found on social media without acknowledging it in your post ? You know anyone can make up anything. You are a waste of space.
@@johnadam2885 If you can't find it on social media, it's your incompetence or laziness. Don't blame me for your incompetence!
@@aburakadabura2 Oh, they signed something and are now bound by this..? Sure, lol
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God is with NATO together Ukraine please help with President Zelesnky stay strong stay strong stay safe 👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏🔥🔥🔥🔥💪💪💪💪✌️✌️✌️✌️🇺🇲🇺🇦🇺🇲
Time for putler to concede ruSSian buffer zone land to Ukraine and sue for peace, before all of his is lost
Ucraina already has lost a lot and will lose more futher😮😅
@@art-media209
Like in Syria?
Giving Ukraine everything it needs to win this war and Ukrainian integration into NATO and the EU is the west’s best self defense.
What if Britain would rejoin the EU first before giving us advices who should we bring in?
Ukraine is beaten because the west is beaten. You were not seeking self defence, you wanted to threaten Russia using Ukraine. Russia has ended you. Get it ?
President Zelenskyy is starting to look very fatigued. I do not envy one little bit the pressures he bears on his shoulders. I only hope Trump doesn't act like a bull in a china shop post inauguration and destroy all that President Zelenskyy has managed to achieve in very difficult circumstances. It is already bad enough with Hungary's Orban and some others pulling in the opposite direction to the rest of NATO, EU and western European countries in general and beyond too.
What has Elensky achieved?
God is the GREATEST!!! because has forgiven evil europe too much,,,but now europe stepped over God's Limits!!! and europe now will begin to feel the pain!!!,,,because GOD is a MASTER!!!
Forgot to take youre medicine
POLAND WONT DIE FOR FASCIST UPAINE !
europe wanting to became an huge chernobill
That will never happen and if it does than the consequenties will be high cause you loose a great part in this world. So let's hope there are intelligent people running this war.
After denying tanks and jets