Key Bridge Road Is Off Dali Ship, NOW WHAT?
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2024
- The 4-lane Francis Scott Key bridge collapse roadway was draped over the bow of the MV Dali ship and has been removed from the ship. But what will happen next? How will the salvors get the crushed containers off the Dali, and where will they take Dali for repairs? in Baltimore Maryland successfully refloated the motor vessel MV Dali ship from the bridge collapse debris. Jeff Ostroff shows some analysis mixed with videos and photos to explain the process.
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there is another video of the collision from a bystander. you can see the pillar cap fall onto the ship along with the closest pillar. the farthest pillar was pulverized.
Guess deadrise privated his photos;
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When this happens, it's usually because the owner only shared it with a small group of people, changed who can see it or it's been deleted.
I've been fascinated by the work being done from Day 1 on the Key Bridge collapse and your commentary on all that's been going on has been invaluable to viewers like me. I have followed you from your analysis of the Miami condo collapse as well as the Titan submersible disaster and your coverage has been superb. Thank you so much Jeff for sharing your knowledge with us!
Well done. Respect to all people were involved to handle the time and work after this horruble accident! And don't forget the victims and their families and friends, also in future! Best regards from Germany!
This looks easy for these men to dismantle the Scott Key Bridge debris but it really can be dangerous! One small slip and an accident can happen! So I applaud these workers! I know it's their job but I pray for their safety!
When a bridge collapses like it did here, the steel can be under tension or compression, because it's twisted, deformed, and stretched, it is very likely a hazard to anyone on the cleanup/disassembly. Especially when it's big steel beams, trusses, etc. the water Definitely doesn't help, as that adds more hazards
It’s got to be getting old for them, it’s tough having to wear all that PPE. Thankfully we’ve had a relatively cool spring.
Bubba, Those are woven nylon fiber tote sacks. Designed specifically for bulk transportation of "stuff". They are one cubic yard, with a sewn loop on each corner so they can be lifted by strap/chain or slipping forklift forks through the loop.
Those ones are probably SEVERAL cubic yards or meters.
Called a "Super Sack" where I work. Billy Mays could do an epic infomercial on these things. Lots of different material can be moved and located with precision with these.
thanks i was biting my tongue .
Just speculation: The DALI will go into dry dock in Norfolk. If the marine surveyors don't survey the ship, there is no marine insurance. Essentially, the insurance companies will issue a waiver for assisted transport to the nearest available dry dock. That means tugs will accompany her. An ocean voyage is out of the question at this time. One problem for the owners is they can't ignore this. Failure to follow the rules now could let the insurance companies off the hook for the collision. The claims are bound to exceed a billion dollars and no ship owner is that foolish. Additionally, the details of the damage will determine if the ship is repaired or scrapped. The damage we can see is on the bow, but an internal inspection will detail how far aft the compromised structures extend. The bow got squeezed between the bridge on top and the bottom of the harbor like it was in a vise. Even if repaired, insurance rates may make the ship uneconomical. I am betting it will be scrapped.
I am wondering why they don't offload the containers? is this because they would need to pay for demurrage if the containers are in the harbour?
@p6x2 some major legal issues will need to be answered. The M/V Dali is foreign flagged. US cabotage law, i.e. the Jones Act, prevent the Dali from transporting cargo from US port to US port. If there are containers that were loaded in a US port, landing them ashore would be a violation and the Dali could be seized.
They may be waiting to remove the weight from the bow for strength and stability reasons.
Bob
@@robertlevine2152 Thanks! Aren't there a Foreign Trade Zone in Baltimore?
My company used to have equipment stored in such areas (not in the USA), paying import duty only if required on a job. I thought maybe something similar could be done for those containers.
I think that ship is too new to scrap
I'm guessing this ship will be decommissioned. Engine, generator, and possibly other electrical equipment issues.
I just rode by Seagirt Marine Terminal on 95 and you can see Dali pretty well headed into the tunnel from the east side of the city. It looked like the road deck had been removed from the bow and that is confirmed. I hadnt been on the other side of the city since before the bridge collapsed since I had no need and live on the east side. Headed northbound on 95 going through the Ft McHenry Tunnel on the south side, you can really see the road that is left and the bridge pylon all by its lonesome self. Still heartbreaking and the traffic was a nightmare at 2pm! If there are any locals on this channel, Broening Highway and Boston Street is a great vantage point, but may not be very safe. Go at your own risk and dont blame me if anything happens. It is Baltimore City after all.
Local here. I drive that tunnel daily and if you take the seagirt exit you can drive right by the stern of the ship. I’m talking 50 ft from it. Not sure if you can get close to the bow as it’s obviously fenced in and guarded. I was just trying to turn around when I figured this out going to shake shack after work 😂
He may have good pics, but your reporting is the best!
I watch Minorcan Mullet every time there a post. The best view to be watching.
Thanks for the update, Jeff. Greg 😊.
Thanks Jeff
Here's something I recently learned by listening to the local newscasts concerning the Dali. "Norfolk" is pronounced "Norfuk" and this is also the pronunciation for the town in England, as well. Thank you for your interesting summaries! I have really enjoyed them!
Probably because nobody gives a Norkolk about how it is pronounced... 😂😂😂
My friend from the south east just to sing a song about Norfolk pronunciation. "We don't drink and we don't smoke, Norfolk, Norfolk".
Locality over the written eneglish. Wins every time
Good stuff, Jeff! I highly recommend Andy's channel, too. Whether you watch live, or the highlights each day, it's a great learning experience. His narration is so helpful.
Thanks for the bit about the hospital ship, showing Madcow full of it near the end.
Factually, it wasn't there "next week." That comment was made on March 20, 2020 and the ship didn't arrive until 10 days later. It also didn't do much after it finally got there, serving only 20 patients with it's 1,000-bed facility in it's first day of service in which it refused to take any COVID patients. This is what happens when you fly off the handle and do things without planning. Had someone actually talked to the people in charge of the ship, they could have saved the diesel fuel and sent reservists to help in underserved skilled nursing facilities as USS Mercy did AFTER she left port. The U. S. Naval Institute reports that USS Comfort only treated 182 patients during the entire time it was there. USS Mercy didn't do much better. It served only 77 patients while in port.
You can check the timeline for the USS Comfort from the Business Insider article of April 26, 2020 entitled "How USNS Comfort went from a symbol of hope with the president's blessing, to heading back from NYC having treated fewer than 180 patients," by Ashley Collman.
USNS Comfort and Mercy. They are part of Military Sealift Command manned by civilian crew and military detachment for operations. Military medical personnel are embarked when deployed.
Absolutely brilliant work on all these videos, thank you so much.
Those big white bags look like those we use at the plant for receiving bulk raw material for production and for shipping out bulk finished powdered loose goods. The bags would hold over 3000lbs if I'm remembering correctly.
And they have a crane that will lift half a million tons take one of those bags at a time. I wonder how much a day that huge crane charges? They are just milking this job for all it is worth.
According to VesselFinder the Dali is now moored at a dock to the north-northeast! Excited to see a video on that.
Thanks
Such tedious work for all involved!! It’s amazing how much progress they’ve made!!
Great explanation of what is left on the Dali and how it is lying. I was trying to figure it out for a few days now. I thought the men were standing on the deck but all along it was the concrete support beam.
I follow Captain Andy as well
Thank you Jeff for sharing the updates.
Thank you Jeff.
Wow - I have been able to look away from this. Thank you the daily updates!
Thanks for the update and stringing all the content together, fantastic job Jeff from Dorking Surrey UK...🇬🇧
Love all the pictures and the input. This is great stuff, guys. Keep.
Up the great work.😊
I think that you should expand on your brief commercial for you home depot and lowes walkthrough/sales flyer reviews. You highlight what's on sale this week, and what's worth buying right now, like a in person slickdeals review. Those videos are how I found your website in the first place.
JeffO in 4k, amazing. Thankful!!
Fantastic work fellas. Thank You.
Excellent coverage, and thank you for the showing the hospital ship video clips-funny how that kind of persecution and false reporting was somehow totally fine and continues today. Anyway Jeff, great stuff as usual.
The affected area of the Bow is a small percentage of the ship. I can’t imagine them scrapping an entire ship for such a small section. Yes it will take time in drydock to recreate the bow buy how long?
Great color commentary Jeff. Keep up the good work! Re repair of Dali, very likely not going to happen by the Navy or Newport News Ship. They have a full docket of ship work to do for our own vessels.
Watching lots of that Live Stream content, it appeared they lifted that section a bit and held it there while they broke off/separated the roadway surface from the base of it. You could see one of the companion cranes raising and dropping a long cylindrical weight looking piece continually at the right end of that truss structure. The structure went up and back down a number of times before they lifted it finally and moved away from the site.
They used a wrecking ball to break up more of the 4 lane street still attached tot he bridge truss to help loosen it from the mud
It will be interesting to see how they get the huge concrete cap support structure parts off the Dali. Keep us posted.
Thank you for the update and explanations! From one of your land-lubber fillers in Utah. I sure hope you can keep up the progress reports!
Capt.Andu do you plan on any coverage of the rebuild?
Thanks for sharing!
Okay Jeff, Since Andy had go back to Georgia for family (Who else we have as backup to see rest of this road junk getting off Dali and squished Containers, etc off bow Dali, common we been in wind without coverage were like ducks released from pond send on are merry way.
LOL!!! Loved the "RACHEL MADDOW SPREADS FAKE NEWS part." I mean, you're just giving us the facts, not a stance on anything. But that was hilarious! U just earned my sub
It wasn't fake since it was announced March 17th and arrived at NYC on March 30th. By the end of April it had treated 126 people. Be careful you don't automatically assume someone saying something is fake is telling you the truth.
Here's the context: On March 20th 2020, Rachel Maddow said President Trump's claim that hospital ships would be sent to both the east and west coasts by the next was "nonsense." The USNS Mercy was deployed to Los Angeles and arrived later that weekend, while the USNS Comfort pulled into New York Harbor 10 days after her broadcast. Seems like FAKE news to me.
Further, Rachel Maddow lost all credibility from me when she only talked about "Russia, Russia, Russia" hoax for two years on her program, delegitimizing any legitimate attempt Trump made at governing. As it turns out, the Mueller report found that there was no sufficient evidence to establish that Trump, or his campaign, conspired with the Russian government. Again, spreading more lies.
And lastly, let's never forget Rachel Maddow's infamous claim, in regard to the COVID-19 vaccine: "instead of the virus being able to hop from person to person potentially mutating, now we know that the vaccines work well enough that the virus stops with every vaccinated person. When a vaccinated person gets exposed to the virus, the virus does not infect them, the virus CANNOT then use that person to go anywhere else."
This is a woman who perpetually lies, and regardless of your politics and who you vote for, she should be called out for what she is: a fake news reporter!
Great review
Apologies if it's been discussed before, but does anybody know if / how many reefer containers were on the ship? Surely, those have spoiled product in them at this point.
the cruise ship broke the Guinness world record for most rubberneckers rubbernecking at the same time 😂
I'm surprised they haven't offloaded more undamaged containers. The people that shipped them must be hopping mad that their stuff is still sitting there and isn't getting delivered.
Low priority. Loading and unloading containers is like a giant jigsaw puzzle. Everything must be balanced forward to back and port to starboard. Probably not going to unload anything until the debris has been removed.
Thanks Jeff, I love your reports. Do you have any idea why they are not unloading all the containers off the Dali? Seems like they would want to get that merchandise out.
We don't know what their plan is yet, they might want to remove all the crash debris prior to removing containers
No, the Key bridge road is not completely off Dali ship, the largest piece of the road is, but there are smaller pieces of the road that still remain on Dali ship, and they will probably not even need to be removed. I understand the Dali is still able to sail with its own propeller, chances are that it will sail to Norfolk for repairs probaly assisted by tugs but not towed by tugs, since that is approx a 36-48 hrs trip at an average speed of 5 kts per hour. Jeffostroff can always correct me if I am mistaking any info about the matter. I love the accuracy of the host of this channel. Bst rgs
1:27 that's a (specialized) container handler, not a fork lift. Compare to the yellow semi going in front of it at 5:23.
Why aren't they unloading the containers that are accessible ? Are they counterweights for the debris on the bow?
The "forklift" is actually a "top loader" for picking containers. The crushed containers won't be dealt with until the bridge debris is removed. I like your analysis of cleanup process. What surprises me is it doesn't appear to be getting unloaded at all.
watching from Quakertown, Pennsylvania USA
So disappointed that there are NO videos of the roadway removal. I was looking forward to seeing it. How is it possible that nobody recorded the removal????? except for a 1 min shot of one white bag being removed? I had my popcorn all ready to pop.
6:20 -6:30. I think that the section still on the bow is the right hand section of the arch connecting to the pillar shown at 6:30. Not the underside of the bridge deck. The arch has an X structure, whereas the bridge road deck is is a delta triangle type design.
Wondering about the non damaged containers. Any thoughts about how they plan to deliver them?
I wonder why they haven't started unloading all of the other containers.
There is a lot of misc. steel framing from the bridge deck still laying on the deck of the ship. The cleanup work likely cut and broke the bridge deck into pieces, separating it from the steel framing and leaving the steel framing behind. That isn't easy, the steel beam framing probably has good sized connectors going up into the concrete slabs.
Because they need them for ballast to get under a bridge on the way to Norfolk. and they don't want the expense of cleaning any more water from the ballast tanks than necessary. like they have when they refloated it.
Time to find out why it took a extreme right turn right into the supporting structure
Surprised that they have not started taking off some of the containers. I am sure the customers want them shipped.
Over 150 containers were removed, to improve trim prior to the ship being moved to the current site. It was a slow process. Many more will now be removed with greater efficiency.
I doubt they want Dali tying up the loading capacity at the port until the debris is off. The contents of a lot of those containers has likely been written off by insurance already. Once the bow is clear of debris, they will likely pull her forward, unload, then move her to Norfolk.
@@kstricl already taking up that space. notice the cranes sitting idle fore and aft of the ship ua-cam.com/video/tEcVmPTSQNs/v-deo.html
The USS Comfort used to be docked in Baltimore.
As explained by Sal Mercogliano of What's Going On With Shipping (Sal is an industry expert and is often called upon to analyze ship accidents. I have seen him on TV episodes of maritime accidents, including the Ever Given and the Suez Canal), the anchor chain described here does not drop outside of the hull to the anchor.
The chain travels inside a heavy guide tube that guides it down to the end of the port side anchor, which is still embedded in its storage compartment. That anchor was never dropped. The one on the other side was. Dropping the starboard anchor would have swiveled the bow directly into the bridge pier. By dropping the port anchor only, they tried to force the bow away from the pier. Unfortunately, it did not work.
Also, that section of the bridge that the Chessie 1000 was attached to IS the remainder of the bridge that fell on top of the Dali's bow.
Please don't speculate about what we are seeing. Base your descriptions on actual facts. That is what we should be hearing - not "Fake News".
Had a hard time finding the double decker cabinets. Had to go to a video where you talk about it to click on it... where do you have video located Jeff? You do great work!!
great re-cap 👍
One Tonne Fertilizer type Bags 1000kg for the Debri from Dali ....
Great Photo's thankyou ...
Jeff, when are they going to unload all the containers, especially the reefers?
Just wondering if customs is going to inspect all the containers. After seeing prior pictures of the containers that had autos in them and the speculation that they may have been stolen just begs to question if they were.
I hope someone has given the famous traffic cone a good home. I wonder what the auction value would be.
Great vid on this one. MAn, that Weeks crane is awesome. Can I have a go, please?
The catwalk you are describing is not from the top of the truss but was between the roadway portion and the bottom cross members of the truss. Look very carefully at the underside of the complete bridge you showed the underneath portion of the main span, and you can make out the catwalk which was used to make inspections of the bottom portions and underneath parts of the roadway.
The port anchor was released. The DALI is tied to the pier on the port side so we see the starboard side of the ship and the starboard anchor is still firmly attached in its recess.
I made a comment early on in all this that I thought the ship Pilot or Capt may have balked at passing under the bridge cuz of possible const workers on a gantry under the bridge (remember all the flashing lights up there at the time?). Jeff: what is the EXACT proceedure when a large ship leaves a port & passes under bridges, etc (esp draw bridges!). As I said b4, there was an incident that occurred at the Verrazzano Br years ago because of a lack of coordination between a construction crew on the VZ bridge & a fuel barge passing beneath it at the time (welding/cutting torch sparks: BLAMO!). I know oversize loads on hwys must have permits & route plans to move about (esp when hwys have const projects planned). Wld be interested to know. Keep up the gr8 work, Jeff. Btw, wldn't the Minorcan Mullets' "air support" still be the Navy, & not the Air Force? Just a thought😊.
Something I've noticed is they don't seem to be unloading any containers @ this point& I wonder why ?? counter balance maybe ??
The stbd anchor is still stowed in the hawse pipe. The chain is not sheared off. The The port anchor chain was disconnected at a shackle after several shots of chain and that anchor and its chain may have been recovered prior to movement of the Dali.
Those bags are commonly used to deliver crushed rock or dirt or sand to small construction sites.
were these cranes available before they were needed or were they built specifically for this job?
Are they removing cargo from the stern of the ship, to get that delivered for customers?
They have not said what is going on
2:50 Dali was headed out of the harbor and hit the south support. That ore silo is on the south side. In the photo, Dali was moving right to left (same as the tall ship) and hit the support in the background, not the one you circled your cursor around.
I caught that too. You must be from balmer!
Newport News Shipbuilding and Drydock is in the Norfolk area
We called those bags super sacks. Loaded bulk product into semi's. Coffee, plastic pellets, etc.
Love that!
Any idea what will happen to the undamaged containers aboard the Dali?
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Dali will not go to the Naval Station or shipyard. They only work on military ships. She will go to one of the civilian shipyards there.
Hello Jeffostroff, today June 10, what´s new with Dali ship ?
Can there be a live webcam on the Dali at the dock ?
Jeff, have you seen this UA-cam posted 6 days ago titled "Engineers hired by Champlain Towers South go public with where they think first failure occurred"? In the video's description is a link to CBS Miami's print story by the same title. I am very curious what your thoughts are regarding Wiss, Janney, Elstner Associates' conclusions and any photos or other evidence you did not have access to during the brilliant analysis you did to deduce what happened before and after the collapse.
The CBS Miami story mentions a webinar by WJE, Associates. I found it on the NCSEA Education Portal, titled "05.21.2024 | Champlain Towers South - WJE Collapse Investigation". The cost to purchase it is $250 - $300. It was published on 5/21/2024.
A 64-minute webinar entitled "Champlain Towers South (Surfside, FL) Collapse Investigation" is available free on the WJE website. I think it was posted on 5/28/2024.
This is a repeat of the presentation that gave a year ago and I covered this in June 2023 through Sept 2023. I think the news station was wrong about this being new info, same exact conference call I sat on a year ago
The real question is where did that magic traffic cone go?
(And lol at the Maddow troll.)
at 13: 25 - you can see a better look at all the damaged containers. They are at least 5 deep and 12 across. I estimate 60 or more containers are among the damaged cargo.
Chances are that it will go to the Newport News Shipyard where the carriers are serviced. I would think it is the only shipyard big enough to handle her size. That's across from Norfolk
Darn they took the Skate Park off the Bow!
Refinery operators, Truckers::..the big white bags are called Super Sacks, used for pellets,powders used in refining.
Any estimate as to how many containers in total did the Dali carry?
I'm surprised they aren't off loading the undamaged containers so that they can be loaded onto another ship(s) and be on their way. I imagine there are companies/people waiting on the contents.
Maybe if you live in Sri Lanka or India. Those containers were headed overseas!😂😂
I hope somer pieces are being saved for a Baltimore museum !!
The bridge supports both being sheared? How about just the first one failing and the weight of the suspended structure falling dragged them both over the bow instead as it fell into the channel?
Looks like no damage low down either on the ship, and to the island the bridge supports were standing on either.
Yes; if u look at zoomed-in video of the Dali hitting the pier you can see it shear the 1st column, then the other(s) SNAP with great force (under load from the bridge weight) and get driven into the ship, knocking off containers in the process. That bridge tried its best to stay up.....😢
The Dali will be going to Newport News Ship Building. On the James River just outside of Norfolk
Why arent there any new videos of the Dali being cleared ?
We call them Ton bags here in Ireland. You can only get your sand or gravel or topsoil or practically any bulk material delivered or collected in them. Councils got fed up with contractors causing blocked drains that they changed the laws.
Even the waste disposal or recuse companies use them. Pick up a bag in most stores and just call the number for collection.
Just seems strange to me that in a big country like the USA you struggle to know what they are or what they are called.
I am not sure person would routinely use them in their lives. In my 25 years of owning a house in Canada, I never had to get garbage removal bag or bin myself. If needed, contractors come with their own stuff, and I do not even look how they transport what they need to transport. If people do renovations with lots of debris to haul out later, they usually hire a large metal bin, which a truck will later haul away, though I saw plastic bins as well.
I am surprised that they haven't unloaded the rest of the containers off the Dali. All the one's that weren't crushed that is 🤔
It's interesting to see the bulbous bow peeking out of the water. It looks to me that the Dali must have taken very little damage below the waterline.
Assuming everything is dry and they don't see any distortion or cracking below the waterline, they may only need to dock the Dali to make her watertight and repair and re-attach the anchors. I think it was Sal that mentioned they will not be allowed to sail without working anchors and I think we all know the full repair work will be done at or near her home port in Asia.
Today was the goal of removal of the debris in the center channel under the bridge. Did they meet the goal? If not, have they revealed a new goal date?
Seems they should replace/repair the old bridge for speed sake, using newer methods and materials, then build the new bridge beside it?
Do you think the ship is considered totaled or will it be fixed and sent back out for duty?
Maybe stupid, but couldn't barges be put between ship & pier, to catch bits of crushed containers if/as they fall over? The contents are mush already & the worst hazards are gone. My 2c AUD, thanks. =)
whoever built that ship could give some lessons to General Dynamics and Bath Iron Works. The US Navy should contract with the Dali's shipyard.
I often wonder what was in those containers on the bow that were crushed? Hopefully, nobody's furniture that was being relocated to their new home overseas! Not to mention people and companies waiting for whatever was in all those other containers onboard. Delayed for months.