I agree with her choice. He didn't realize how amazing Ruthie was until it was too late. He didn't realize her true potential at first. I say this.. If he didn't realize at first.. Then he didn't deserve her. A relationship is not all about looks people. I feel T-bone knew how amazing she was and for that he got her. Martin should have realized how amazing she was and shouldn't have treated her like a child all that time. Even if he did care about her.. It was too late. Ruthie realized that she needed someone who will accept her and realize how amazing she is. That's my opinion
Man, The writers dropped the ball on this one. We waited so long for Martin and Ruthie and they give a tatse and then rip it away. It killed whatever enjoyment I still got from this show when they did that.
They really screwed this one up. They should've had these two together. They should've really given them a chance. That T bone kid and her didn't have chemistry. These two did. If a reunion ever happens, these two should be married and with a kid at least.
he looks so cute and flustered when hes trying to expalin how attracted he is to her. and that look martin gives when t-bone pats his shoulder like "da fudge you think you doin". MARTIN
This is the relationship we wanted to see in the end. The writers really screw it up...Hopefully one day theres a 7th heaven movie and they get together...💘
I was always a Martin/Ruthie fan and I didn't understand why they didn't end up together. However, my old relationship was like Martin/Ruthie and my new relationship is like Ruthie/Tbone. I get it that it's not what we fans wanted but I finally understood that Tbone was actually very good for Ruthie. He may not be as good looking as Martin but he is very good for her and to her. Martin took her for granted and became a jerk in the final seasons. Just because people look better together doesn't mean they're meant to be together. I think that was something the writers may have tried to convey. You don't always end up your first love. It's heartbreaking but you grow up, you mature, you move on. You find a guy who will love you despite the odds. I'm glad they show that Ruthie is finally happy. I know I am very happy with my guy now :)
Amarie Wright:plus he struggles to see ruthie as a sister because of her age even when she's not old enough to be dating yet. Especially when he tries to convince himself and mac that he thinks of ruthie like a sister. Plus Martin did the right thing treating ruthie like a sister until she was old enough because of her age at the time they met. Same with mac he treated ruthie like a sister too even though he realized how amazing ruthie was when she was seeing Vincent at the time.
You are totally. Martin always regretted hurting people and he would apologized to them. The ending would be better if Ruthie choose Martin. Martin would not get someone else to break up with the person he was dating like T-Bone did when he wanted to break up with Ruthie but how to do it in a nice way. If T-Bone truely cared about Ruthie he would have never got someone else to break up with her when he wanted to end things with her and plus he would taken the effect to get along with her best friend she was scared to choose Martin over him. I think that she choose T-Bone because she thought that T-Bone was the safe choice and he wouldn't hurt her the way Martin did. I like to think that maybe somehow after the series final that Ruthie realized that she made a mistake by choosing T-Bone and finally be able to have a successfully relationship with Martin.
I have a feeling if budget cuts didn't force David Gallagher to depart, I would Imagine season 11 would have revealed Simon as the father of Aaron which was probably the plan but changed to Martin.
Martin did screw up big time...that's why Ruthie chose T-bone....he's safer and wouldn't hurt Ruthie like Martin did by sleeping with someone he didn't love and getting her pregnant...he screw up big time and lost his dream of marrying a girl with a big family...(what he said in Pater or Plastic season 9 episode 12)
I totally agree with you. I wished that Ruthie had choose Martin over T-Bone. I believe that it was T-Bone never got Ruthie or saw the real her since he did have someone break up with her through a text message for him and a text message that got send to everyone excpet for Martin. It would have be very intresting to see how Martin would have reacted if he had saw the text message. I think that Martin alwsys knew how amazing Ruthie was but he was just to scared to admitted.
I don't understand why it is so wrong for them to kiss his only two years older than her his 20 and she is like 18 in this scene mila and Ashton Kucher had their first kiss onscreen when mila was 15 and Ashton was 20
Stephanie Musse Mila lied about her age to get the gig on That 70s show. Plus, this show is all about conservative Christian values, so to have the actors do something that could be seen as scandalous from their conservarive christian viewers (who give them money) would be an incredible risk simply for a kiss. You saw what happened when Jessica Biel stepped out of her "Mary" role off screen.
How the story between Ruthie and Martin totallt disappoints me until now, I don't know if the writers even considered the fans that wanted them both to end up with each other. I was hoping that at the end, Martin becomes a changed guy and both of them will be happy. When I realised that the next episodes were not going to be like that, I stopped watching. Good thing I did.
I watched till the end but I am disappointed too. And seriously confused because of how they ended season 10 with Sandy talking to Simon and we never find out what they talked about but they make it seem like she is telling him that he is Aaron's father not Martin. And I wish they had gone with that. I was really annoyed with the Sandy Martin drama in season 11 and I really wanted Martin and Ruthie to get together.
I know I am super late lol they never show them kiss and this the First scene they had together in season 11 and the season was almost over by than. They did martin wrong in season 10 and 11.
I always thought it was so weird that they never even showed them kiss onscreen, but they apparently “dated” offscreen. Very strange. Maybe because they got scared she looked too young for him? I’ve seen that happen with other shows unfortunately.
This kept coming up because I was looking for Tyler vids. It's been so long since I've watched the show....in my head I think Ruthie and Martin end up together, eventually. It will be a long road. A very long road, maybe even ten years. Martin needs to grow up and take responsibility for his actions and his life. He's had a rough life and he can use those memories to help others. He could be a nurse, psychologist, guidance counselor, etc...They need to go their separate ways while Martin matures and learns to love himself because it's the only way to love others including his own kid. I'm also saying this because I think the actors had good acting chemistry. Not all friends have to be love interests. I know Martin made very questionable decisions, but he's young and from a troubled upbringing. Things happen. Some will want Ruthie and Martin together, some will say that Martin ruined things for good. For me? These two were still young when this happened. Things change. People mature. Everyone has problems. As an adult, I've seen even the most spiritual and or religious people have problems. Lucky for them, their friends and family forgave them. I do think that Martin's character became THAT story. I'm not sure that the character started out to be THAT character, but he became the character that shows us that people make mistakes, but it doesn't mean that we have to be with them. Ruthie will find someone who loves her just the way she is. I guess that's the moral to the story.
Martins character development was terrible imo especially for how he acted this season, comparing him in seasons 8-9 to 11 are 2 totally different characters. In season 8 he was mature , had morals and very nice but in season 11 he was ditzy and a bit of a jerk.
Martin and Ruthie should have been together sadly Martin led her on ruthie wanted to be with Martin so badly however ruthie moved on and is happy with t-bone so that’s better.
Everybody who thinks Martin and Ruthie should've ended up together give me a thumbs up.
Ruthie should’ve ended up with Peter.
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they should do a reboot just to finish what they started. Ruthie and Martin belong together.
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I do wish Martin would have ended up with ruthie.
I agree with her choice. He didn't realize how amazing Ruthie was until it was too late. He didn't realize her true potential at first. I say this.. If he didn't realize at first.. Then he didn't deserve her. A relationship is not all about looks people. I feel T-bone knew how amazing she was and for that he got her. Martin should have realized how amazing she was and shouldn't have treated her like a child all that time. Even if he did care about her.. It was too late. Ruthie realized that she needed someone who will accept her and realize how amazing she is. That's my opinion
they should had ruthie end up with martin.😍💓💕
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Man, The writers dropped the ball on this one. We waited so long for Martin and Ruthie and they give a tatse and then rip it away. It killed whatever enjoyment I still got from this show when they did that.
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They really screwed this one up. They should've had these two together. They should've really given them a chance. That T bone kid and her didn't have chemistry. These two did. If a reunion ever happens, these two should be married and with a kid at least.
PiazzaGurl I completely and Totally agree with that statement!
PiazzaGurl:maybe they are since ruthie and Martin both end up single by the end of the series it gives them a chance to be together by now
??? No they weren't. Martin was because both Ruthie and Sandy rejected him but Ruthie chose T-Bone.
All these years later and this is still like a sucker punch to the gut. I’m so heartbroken over their storyline I always will be 💔
he looks so cute and flustered when hes trying to expalin how attracted he is to her. and that look martin gives when t-bone pats his shoulder like "da fudge you think you doin". MARTIN
This is the relationship we wanted to see in the end. The writers really screw it up...Hopefully one day theres a 7th heaven movie and they get together...💘
I ship them so much! I can't even explain it!
Ruthie and Martin would have worked if the writers would have let it grow
They both belong together perfect couple knows each other there whole life 🙏💕
I was always a Martin/Ruthie fan and I didn't understand why they didn't end up together. However, my old relationship was like Martin/Ruthie and my new relationship is like Ruthie/Tbone. I get it that it's not what we fans wanted but I finally understood that Tbone was actually very good for Ruthie. He may not be as good looking as Martin but he is very good for her and to her. Martin took her for granted and became a jerk in the final seasons. Just because people look better together doesn't mean they're meant to be together. I think that was something the writers may have tried to convey. You don't always end up your first love. It's heartbreaking but you grow up, you mature, you move on. You find a guy who will love you despite the odds. I'm glad they show that Ruthie is finally happy. I know I am very happy with my guy now :)
Amarie Wright:plus he struggles to see ruthie as a sister because of her age even when she's not old enough to be dating yet. Especially when he tries to convince himself and mac that he thinks of ruthie like a sister.
Plus Martin did the right thing treating ruthie like a sister until she was old enough because of her age at the time they met. Same with mac he treated ruthie like a sister too even though he realized how amazing ruthie was when she was seeing Vincent at the time.
Martin is 100x better than tbone can't believe a good show like this had such a crappy ending.
You are totally. Martin always regretted hurting people and he would apologized to them. The ending would be better if Ruthie choose Martin. Martin would not get someone else to break up with the person he was dating like T-Bone did when he wanted to break up with Ruthie but how to do it in a nice way. If T-Bone truely cared about Ruthie he would have never got someone else to break up with her when he wanted to end things with her and plus he would taken the effect to get along with her best friend she was scared to choose Martin over him. I think that she choose T-Bone because she thought that T-Bone was the safe choice and he wouldn't hurt her the way Martin did. I like to think that maybe somehow after the series final that Ruthie realized that she made a mistake by choosing T-Bone and finally be able to have a successfully relationship with Martin.
I think Martin realized too late that ruthie was more than a sister figure
Ruthie and martin should have ended up being together
I have a feeling if budget cuts didn't force David Gallagher to depart, I would Imagine season 11 would have revealed Simon as the father of Aaron which was probably the plan but changed to Martin.
And you were also led to believe Simon ended up with Cecilia
It would have been niceif Simon and Cecilia did get back together
Martin did screw up big time...that's why Ruthie chose T-bone....he's safer and wouldn't hurt Ruthie like Martin did by sleeping with someone he didn't love and getting her pregnant...he screw up big time and lost his dream of marrying a girl with a big family...(what he said in Pater or Plastic season 9 episode 12)
Truly hated the ending so much! I believe she should have went with Martin! :/
I totally agree with you. I wished that Ruthie had choose Martin over T-Bone. I believe that it was T-Bone never got Ruthie or saw the real her since he did have someone break up with her through a text message for him and a text message that got send to everyone excpet for Martin. It would have be very intresting to see how Martin would have reacted if he had saw the text message. I think that Martin alwsys knew how amazing Ruthie was but he was just to scared to admitted.
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I wanted them to get together
I don't understand why it is so wrong for them to kiss his only two years older than her his 20 and she is like 18 in this scene mila and Ashton Kucher had their first kiss onscreen when mila was 15 and Ashton was 20
Stephanie Musse Mila lied about her age to get the gig on That 70s show. Plus, this show is all about conservative Christian values, so to have the actors do something that could be seen as scandalous from their conservarive christian viewers (who give them money) would be an incredible risk simply for a kiss. You saw what happened when Jessica Biel stepped out of her "Mary" role off screen.
👍 I totally agree 💯
I'm all for that if they make a reboot
They belong together in my head they ended up together their chemistry is the best
How the story between Ruthie and Martin totallt disappoints me until now, I don't know if the writers even considered the fans that wanted them both to end up with each other. I was hoping that at the end, Martin becomes a changed guy and both of them will be happy. When I realised that the next episodes were not going to be like that, I stopped watching. Good thing I did.
+Charity Marces exactly
I watched till the end but I am disappointed too. And seriously confused because of how they ended season 10 with Sandy talking to Simon and we never find out what they talked about but they make it seem like she is telling him that he is Aaron's father not Martin. And I wish they had gone with that. I was really annoyed with the Sandy Martin drama in season 11 and I really wanted Martin and Ruthie to get together.
I agree, Martin and Sand's drama should not have occurred, and I also really wanted to know what Sandy and Simon talked about.
Simon was probably the father of Aaron not martin
They never showed Ruthie and Martin's kiss just like they never showed aunt Julie's 2nd baby
I Wish Ruthie ended up with Martin her and T-Bone was not a good match and what episode was there kiss ?
They didn't show the kiss between martin and ruthie. That bothered me
Thy never did show it it was just mentioned
I know I am super late lol they never show them kiss and this the First scene they had together in season 11 and the season was almost over by than. They did martin wrong in season 10 and 11.
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I always thought it was so weird that they never even showed them kiss onscreen, but they apparently “dated” offscreen. Very strange. Maybe because they got scared she looked too young for him? I’ve seen that happen with other shows unfortunately.
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What episode is this
I wish she got with Martin not TBone
Brenda Hampton should of made them the end game Martin & Ruthie
My reaction to this video: 😣 How can Ruthie pick that guy over Martin?!? Is she nuts? He’s hott.
This kept coming up because I was looking for Tyler vids. It's been so long since I've watched the show....in my head I think Ruthie and Martin end up together, eventually. It will be a long road. A very long road, maybe even ten years. Martin needs to grow up and take responsibility for his actions and his life. He's had a rough life and he can use those memories to help others. He could be a nurse, psychologist, guidance counselor, etc...They need to go their separate ways while Martin matures and learns to love himself because it's the only way to love others including his own kid. I'm also saying this because I think the actors had good acting chemistry. Not all friends have to be love interests. I know Martin made very questionable decisions, but he's young and from a troubled upbringing. Things happen.
Some will want Ruthie and Martin together, some will say that Martin ruined things for good. For me? These two were still young when this happened. Things change. People mature. Everyone has problems. As an adult, I've seen even the most spiritual and or religious people have problems. Lucky for them, their friends and family forgave them.
I do think that Martin's character became THAT story. I'm not sure that the character started out to be THAT character, but he became the character that shows us that people make mistakes, but it doesn't mean that we have to be with them. Ruthie will find someone who loves her just the way she is. I guess that's the moral to the story.
yeah me 2 :(
I was hoping for Ruthie and Vincent or Ruthie and Peter.
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Between Mary, Lucy and Ruthie, this family sure had a lot of fuckbois.
what ep was the kiss?
+Cydalia Acevedo This a year later response. But the kiss was never shown on TV.
polishprincess86 oh ok thanks
I like her and T-bone together
Marty should have gone after her
am juile hacth i waish martin berewer be my boy feraind
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I don't get y wat happened between Martin and Ruthie is talked about but we never saw it happen y I really wanted them to be together
I feel martnas pain
Maria Farrell Martin's pain
They should of been together never liked her with Tbone!
What show is this
7th Heaven
Martins character development was terrible imo especially for how he acted this season, comparing him in seasons 8-9 to 11 are 2 totally different characters. In season 8 he was mature , had morals and very nice but in season 11 he was ditzy and a bit of a jerk.
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Martin had his chance!!!! Ruthie a good girl!!!!
Wait, They KISSED???!! WHEN??!!!😱🤗🤗Why didn't I see it??😊😊😱🙄🙄
right?!!!
Tyler hoechlin is better on teen wolf 100%
Martin and Ruthie should have been together sadly Martin led her on ruthie wanted to be with Martin so badly however ruthie moved on and is happy with t-bone so that’s better.
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Martin dont love ruthie!!!
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👍 I totally agree 💯
yeah me 2 :(