Shortline railroading at it's finest!! When you operate a shortline, you do what you have to do to survive. This is a fantastic look at small time operations! And a plus is watching a real live GP-35 running! Not many true GP-35's left anymore!!! Thanks for posting!!
This video is a great example of local railroad switching operations. Neat to see 39' jointed rail with all its bends and twists compared to Class I Railways and CWR rail. Also nice to see the crew actually following the rules about bell and horn use, Class III reflective wear and the like. Wish you had the radio traffic.
I created this video to show the challenges that a small railroad faces to keep operating, not necessarily how poor the track looks or to critique their actions. Before commenting on the track just realize that 2+ people have work, local businesses benefit by having affordable rail access, and we get to see some variety that is painfully missing in our modern railroads. Neil
+neilybobmojo I enjoy modeling a workaday short line since its easy to model and lots of switching which is my favorite part of model railroading.Thanks for sharing.
That track in the beginning is not quite as bad as it seems. The ties have shifted laterally, and they've settled more than other parts, hence the the dips, but if you'll notice, the tracks are still in gauge. The engineer needs to proceed slowly because the dips will make the rolling stock sway back in forth if proceeding too quickly, but it is still navigable. In a perfect world they'd be fixed right away, but...
Not too long ago I saw a stack of rail in Sublimity where some of the rails had 1880 and 1890-era dates on them, dating from when the railroad was converted from narrow gauge to standard gauge. The eastside lines were never big money-makers for the Southern Pacific, so they didn't receive their share of capital investment.
Those buildings where 2503 is switching those tankcars and covered hoppers don't even look like they service those cars. It just looks like that to me.
Since the rails are a century old, who decides what is old enough to remove? [Just kiddin']. I worked as a brakeman on the Houston & Texas Central [SP] from the late 60s to the early 70s. Seeing that rail from 1910 reminded me of the bridge over the Navasota River. There was a sign on it that stated it was constructed in 1903 by state convicts.
I am always amazed who poorly the tracks can be on small rail tracks. Who come there are no more derailing on such tracks is beyond me. I undestand the cost of maintenance, But were is the limit of saving money.
vid proves the rail is not as bad as you think it should be... now to be fair there would be trouble if there were heavy traffic volume (multiple trains, daily), or heavy (weight) traffic ie; coal trains, potash grain trains or higher speed traffic (30 mph or higher) then yes i'd say they were headed for trouble... but if the traffic volume, weight and speed are kept VERY low then the likely hood of a derailment turning into a major issue is reduced... reduced but NOT eliminated because the rail, ties, roadbed and subroadbed are CERTAINLY in need of work ... however the feds give railroads great latitude to continue service on rail such as this as long as the speeds don't exceed 10 mph and no more than 5 haz-mats are moved at any one time (called FRA excepted rail)
VERY enjoyable!! Could have been 20 min. longer. Nice horn on the WV "Green Bomber" :) Any bets on how long those "Yard Rails" will last? You noted that some were over 100 years old!!!...so who can guess!! Put this vid in long-term storage, it's a KEEPER!!!
I lived and taught high school for 28 years in Woodburn. Very familiar with these tracks. What are the causes of tracks to collapse...bend...warp..etc. like these? Is he steel so much lower grade that that on main lines or what ?
First of all. The tracks were not made to carry 150 tons. It is not about steel. It is about the foundation. Spurs are not built to the same standard as mainlines. There is no reason. Over the time and under the pressure the soil shifts which creates areas of uneven loads. That bends the tracks. 2. The way these rails are joined. Rails are laid with a tiny space for thermal stress and then bolted together from sides. Over the time, those bolts loosen and allows vertical movement. It bends the rail and loosen the nails, which then allows lateral movement, which leads to further bending. A godo example of positive loop. 3. Time itself. Timber shrinks and cracks, gravel moves from one place to other, hell, planet Earth is in motion. It is not the tracks, it is use of the tracks. And that is what matters, in the end. Europe has the most wonderfull tracks in the world and we do not use them.
Hey luigi im a big rail fan ive got operate a real loco not hard ..but im a beginner in model railroad i just bought a bnsf n im a chicago fan of there paint shemes n etc.where i,used to live used to be big on cnw lines
Can't pick it out for certain, but I believe this is in the area of a bunch of food processing plants. Smuckers is a big user of tank cars of sugar syrup, which is what I am guessing at least some of these cars are.
also just up a few miles is Wilco ( fertilizer / grain) Bruce pack (tank cars of corn syrup) to name a few.....This is home for me, when I was a kid in the 70's this was SP trackage
+Robert Gift Without any sort of grade the cars don't tend to move on their own without some motivation. And the view of the crossing is where the first camera was set up so I didn't care much to show that. Thanks for watching!
There are a couple short lines around the Ft. Wayne, IN area who's tracks are in worse shape. The Napoleon Defiance and Western and the Wabash Central.
What you are seeing is a great foreshortening of distance because of the telephoto. The track is really not that bad or unusual for industrial trackage. Notice that the humps and valleys are pretty much opposite each other so side rocking is not prevalent--that is the worst problem for this type of track. This is probably Class 2 but at least Class 1. The track on the right at the beginning is a main line of at least Class 3 or 4 and has welded rail of heavier weight and is maintained for a higher train speed.
The track LOOKS really bad but it is the photography that is the culprit. The extreme telephoto foreshortens all the views making the rail look much worse that it really is. I didn't see much sagging and working of the rail as the train passed over. That means that most of the ties are still doing their jobs, even though they could use some tamping to get the worst of the vertical kinks out. Great video, though!
interesting points ,if anyone else wants to learn about how do i get a railroad job try Debuncar Railroad Jobs Aid ( search on google ) ? Ive heard some decent things about it and my colleague got excellent success with it.
+Trucker Kev The Paid Tourist Yes this is one of many lines in the valley spun off from SP, some of the right of way still has signs from SP as well. And both of their locomotives are of SP heritage so they are riding home rails too.
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Yellow Vest made me exhausted.
Interesting because:
a, train
b. not some engine whizzing by at 100 mph
c. outdoors this being 4/2032
A rail from 1910 still in use!! That's fantastic..
This is the very essence of what an interesting railway scene is. Well captured!!!!
Thank you for the kind words and for watching!
The conductor earned all his pay. A lot of movement up and down back and forth, 👍
I love this very type of railway. VERY quaint and rugged in thier own ways. Great camera work.
Thanks for presenting a very good video. 2503 is a real sharp locomotive. Brian from Southern Ontario Canada.
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Lindo vídeo, pero creo que es un verdadero milagro que ésta locomotora no Descarrile, gracias.
Shortline railroading at it's finest!! When you operate a shortline, you do what you have to do to survive. This is a fantastic look at small time operations! And a plus is watching a real live GP-35 running! Not many true GP-35's left anymore!!! Thanks for posting!!
Great video...the conductor really seems to enjoy his job:)
They were doing some major track rehabilitation there. WVR is really investing in their plant.
Great video - much more interesting than endless runbys.
Wow! I saw spool many codes broken.....unbelievable!!!
Great shots and audio. Thanks for capturing and sharing.
This video is a great example of local railroad switching operations. Neat to see 39' jointed rail with all its bends and twists compared to Class I Railways and CWR rail. Also nice to see the crew actually following the rules about bell and horn use, Class III reflective wear and the like. Wish you had the radio traffic.
I created this video to show the challenges that a small railroad faces to keep operating, not necessarily how poor the track looks or to critique their actions. Before commenting on the track just realize that 2+ people have work, local businesses benefit by having affordable rail access, and we get to see some variety that is painfully missing in our modern railroads. Neil
+neilybobmojo I enjoy modeling a workaday short line since its easy to model and lots of switching which is my favorite part of model railroading.Thanks for sharing.
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Boyne city railroad had 70 pound rail that was very straight and smooth,and the loco was a 65 ton 600 hp GE switcher,this track is terrifiing.
Fascinating and enjoyable. Thank you.
Man I miss oregon. that is some beautiful country up there..
Great video. You really captured the spirit of the railroad 👍🏼
Amazing video, i enjoyed watching this
That track in the beginning is not quite as bad as it seems. The ties have shifted laterally, and they've settled more than other parts,
hence the the dips, but if you'll notice, the tracks are still in gauge. The engineer needs to proceed slowly because the dips will make
the rolling stock sway back in forth if proceeding too quickly, but it is still navigable. In a perfect world they'd be fixed right away, but...
By the way....another huge rail fan that travels and films all over the NW teaches at the Woodburn school district...Mr. G.
i like train videos on UA-cam 👍
The conductor seems like he actually enjoys working for the railroad. I love the railroad and i move the same way
Cool video, great catch!
track from 1910...cool!!
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Wow! the track at the beginning of this video is as crooked as a Washington DC politician!!
Not too long ago I saw a stack of rail in Sublimity where some of the rails had 1880 and 1890-era dates on them, dating from when the railroad was converted from narrow gauge to standard gauge. The eastside lines were never big money-makers for the Southern Pacific, so they didn't receive their share of capital investment.
Those buildings where 2503 is switching those tankcars and covered hoppers don't even look like they service those cars. It just looks like that to me.
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Since the rails are a century old, who decides what is old enough to remove? [Just kiddin']. I worked as a brakeman on the Houston & Texas Central [SP] from the late 60s to the early 70s. Seeing that rail from 1910 reminded me of the bridge over the Navasota River. There was a sign on it that stated it was constructed in 1903 by state convicts.
Nice video. Greetings from Poland..
great video. Much work for only one person it´s must be difficult for a smalll railroad to keep on bussines.
WOW SOME OF THOSE STEEL RAILS HAVE HAD SOME BAD WEIGHT ON EM
I am always amazed who poorly the tracks can be on small rail tracks. Who come there are no more derailing on such tracks is beyond me. I undestand the cost of maintenance, But were is the limit of saving money.
vid proves the rail is not as bad as you think it should be... now to be fair there would be trouble if there were heavy traffic volume (multiple trains, daily), or heavy (weight) traffic ie; coal trains, potash grain trains or higher speed traffic (30 mph or higher) then yes i'd say they were headed for trouble... but if the traffic volume, weight and speed are kept VERY low then the likely hood of a derailment turning into a major issue is reduced... reduced but NOT eliminated because the rail, ties, roadbed and subroadbed are CERTAINLY in need of work ... however the feds give railroads great latitude to continue service on rail such as this as long as the speeds don't exceed 10 mph and no more than 5 haz-mats are moved at any one time (called FRA excepted rail)
@@25mfd Ha! OK. Thank you for your input, that now put a new perspective on this rail situation that eluded me.
VERY enjoyable!! Could have been 20 min. longer. Nice horn on the WV "Green Bomber" :) Any bets on how long those "Yard Rails" will last? You noted that some were over 100 years old!!!...so who can guess!! Put this vid in long-term storage, it's a KEEPER!!!
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It's funny how easily you can tell a Class-I (or Class-II) mainline railway from a shortline Class-III railway by their trackage's condition.
This is how it is when you don't have switch towers and yard crews. As far as the engine staying on the tracks, it weighs at least 125 tons.
Is this the railroad that was featured in the movie Train Master?
I thought rtc controlled switches , so the conductor had to change a switch everytime a train wants to change direction???
The willamette Valley Railway sure does need work on their track. To me, it spells derailment if they don't get it fixed.
I had to get on google maps to see what was going on there. sure seems like a lot of rail and tie work.
Where about on google maps is this? It looks great, but I can't find this on google maps
I lived and taught high school for 28 years in Woodburn. Very familiar with these tracks. What are the causes of tracks to collapse...bend...warp..etc. like these? Is he steel so much lower grade that that on main lines or what ?
First of all. The tracks were not made to carry 150 tons. It is not about steel. It is about the foundation. Spurs are not built to the same standard as mainlines. There is no reason. Over the time and under the pressure the soil shifts which creates areas of uneven loads. That bends the tracks.
2. The way these rails are joined. Rails are laid with a tiny space for thermal stress and then bolted together from sides. Over the time, those bolts loosen and allows vertical movement. It bends the rail and loosen the nails, which then allows lateral movement, which leads to further bending. A godo example of positive loop.
3. Time itself. Timber shrinks and cracks, gravel moves from one place to other, hell, planet Earth is in motion.
It is not the tracks, it is use of the tracks. And that is what matters, in the end. Europe has the most wonderfull tracks in the world and we do not use them.
That conductor/brakeman needs to learn the correct way to dismount moving equipment. They must not used hand signals either. Real nice video, though!
I'd like to see some action at the crossing in Mt. Angel.
Wow those tracks are like snakes
nice video ! wish i could get a model locomotive in that rail road :)
Hey luigi im a big rail fan ive got operate a real loco not hard ..but im a beginner in model railroad i just bought a bnsf n im a chicago fan of there paint shemes n etc.where i,used to live used to be big on cnw lines
Why do they not sound their horn when moving back and forth?
GREAT LOOKIN TRACK EH???
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Couldn't help but notice how horrible the trackage is on this line,kinda reminds me alot of CSX tracks,Awesome video though.
Nice catch... I love the switching action....
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WTH is wrong with the track? why wasn't maintenance done one them? Wow!
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I will never understand how a train can stay on a track like that.
It's the camera zoom that makes it look so horrible.
I think the forklift at 29:12 is moving faster than the train! LOL! Next video up, Paint drying! LOL!
The man on the ground is so antsey he made me feel umcomfortablejust watching him.
Wonder what he was smoking/
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PLASSER ON THOSE RAILS, PLEASE!!!!!!!
Does anyone know what industries this is near?
Can't pick it out for certain, but I believe this is in the area of a bunch of food processing plants. Smuckers is a big user of tank cars of sugar syrup, which is what I am guessing at least some of these cars are.
also just up a few miles is Wilco ( fertilizer / grain) Bruce pack (tank cars of corn syrup) to name a few.....This is home for me, when I was a kid in the 70's this was SP trackage
@@ratslayerdj the mill recently burned down
If this was a Class One railroad there would be some major safety violations here.
+GEES44DC Like what?
+Robert Gift Riding on the deck of a flat car for one.
***** Nothing wrong with that. CN allows getting on and off moving equipment.
***** please don't argue. CN allows it in Canada.
***** To anybody reading this. He is flat out wrong. CN employees are allowed to get on and off moving equipment in Canada.
under maintenance much?
Guess they gave up on track maintenance.
Dang those rails look pretty bad
How were the black tank cars prevented from rolling once uncoupled from the locomotive?
30:17 Why not show crossing that grade crossing? *(o)T(o)* ?
+Robert Gift Without any sort of grade the cars don't tend to move on their own without some motivation. And the view of the crossing is where the first camera was set up so I didn't care much to show that. Thanks for watching!
Has to be some of the worst track in the us
100 year old rails!
There are a couple short lines around the Ft. Wayne, IN area who's tracks are in worse shape. The Napoleon Defiance and Western and the Wabash Central.
Looks like they need their tracks straightened out.
I was thinking same thing . At 1st I thought it was just my 50+ years old eyes playing tricks on me until I read your comment
What you are seeing is a great foreshortening of distance because of the telephoto. The track is really not that bad or unusual for industrial trackage. Notice that the humps and valleys are pretty much opposite each other so side rocking is not prevalent--that is the worst problem for this type of track. This is probably Class 2 but at least Class 1. The track on the right at the beginning is a main line of at least Class 3 or 4 and has welded rail of heavier weight and is maintained for a higher train speed.
Yard tracks are just about the same
The track LOOKS really bad but it is the photography that is the culprit. The extreme telephoto foreshortens all the views making the rail look much worse that it really is. I didn't see much sagging and working of the rail as the train passed over. That means that most of the ties are still doing their jobs, even though they could use some tamping to get the worst of the vertical kinks out. Great video, though!
interesting points ,if anyone else wants to learn about how do i get a railroad job try Debuncar Railroad Jobs Aid ( search on google ) ? Ive heard some decent things about it and my colleague got excellent success with it.
Who was original owner of line SP?? Or did WV build from ground?
+Trucker Kev The Paid Tourist Yes this is one of many lines in the valley spun off from SP, some of the right of way still has signs from SP as well. And both of their locomotives are of SP heritage so they are riding home rails too.
neilybobmojo Cool..Thanks for reply
Nice video, but horrible looking rails.
That rail is dangerous! No MOW?
Those tracks are terrible
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WOW this is so unsafe and poorly done.