Mucke-Mittwoch, Folge 11: Babymetal
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Es gibt schon wildes Zeug am Musik-Markt. Eine kuriose, aber dennoch sehr erfolgreiche Perle ist die Band Babymetal. Hier finden J-Pop und Metal eine irrwitzige Symbiose, die vielleicht nicht beim ersten Reinhören zündet, aber nach mehrmaligem Genuss diverse Ohrwürmer hinterlässt. Da ist sicherlich eine Einarbeitung angesagt - aber dann macht die Mucke wirklich Spaß.
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Good review. Personally I never recommend 'Gimme Chocolate' to anybody as the first thing for them to hear from BABYMETAL. The video went viral because of the shock factor and 'WTF' reactions it gets, not because it is their best song. Real live performances are great fun and the crowds love when they do it, but the official video was filmed at the world debut of the song and it has the studio audio dubbed over it. They have so much more to offer than 'Gimme Chocolate'.
You are absolutely right about the Kami Band who support BABYMETAL all being absolute world class musicians. What you should also know is that they only play live shows. With just one known exception - guitarist Leda Cygnus who we know has played guitar and bass on two or three of the studio recordings - the Kami Band are not involved in the recordings for the albums.
But BABYMETAL are a live performance act - their albums are good, but the vocals are over-produced and they only give you an idea of how the songs will sound when they play and perform them live. They are very visual and, with the Kami Band supporting them, the sound at live shows is immense.
The first album includes the first 4 or 5 early singles they released when they started as a sub-unit of the Idol group Sakura Gakuin. When they started there was no expectation that they would ever become an independent band releasing their own albums and touring the world. They were simply the pet project and experimental exercise of their producer, a life long metalhead, who saw the potential of a 10 year old girl he had seen singing with her previous Jpop Idol trio and had the idea that with her vocal talents and stage presence she could front a metal-Jpop fusion band.
Most "product" groups start with a formula that it is known will sell to an already identified target audience, so everything is set up before people are chosen who will fit specific roles within the formula and then they are marketed commercially.
BABYMETAL did not start that way. There was no pre-tried or tested formula to follow. There was not a known audience who would buy into the idea. Commercially it didn't make any sense at all as metal was not doing well in Japan at that time.
The producer was only allowed to carry on with his idea because there was no financial risk to the talent Agency who owned the Idol group they were in, so they began as a sub-unit of that group.
The lead singer was always going to be Suzuka Nakamoto - the whole idea stemmed from her talents. The producer wanted to do something different to attract a new audience to metal and choreographed dancing was what Idols did, so he chose Suzuka's two young and also very talented friends Yui Mizuno and Moa Kikuchi as her supporting vocalists and dancers.
Against every expectation BABYMETAL started to gain their very own following and slowly their audience grew. They played a couple of their own small shows in tiny venues (none of the other sub-units did anything outside of bigger Idol group's own shows) and it was decided that when Suzuka was 15 and would be leaving Sakura Gakuin (it had a school theme and was for girls aged 10 to 15) BABYMETAL should go with her as her vehicle.
In anticipation of this the Kami Band were phased in for live shows gradually from late 2012 and became their full time support early in 2014.
The second album, Metal Resistance, was the next step and they explored more metal genres with which they fused their own Jpop style.
The third album is another progression. They did not want to repeat what they had done already or for people to think "this is what BABYMETAL do, we know what to expect". It had to be something new and different to keep us guessing, never knowing what might come next.
What may not be obvious is that it is a concept album with two very different halves. The first half explores different styles and genres from around the world (Indian, Latino, a Finnish polka and so on) together with the more pop or electronica side of what they do and the second half heads back towards the more metal side of what they do.
This is more obvious on the Japanese release which comes on two separate CDs with a light side (first half) and dark side (second half). Each track on the light side has an equivalent, but completely different, track on the dark side.
For me this album doesn't start well with 'Da Da Dance' and 'Elevator Girl' (other people have them as favourite songs, so maybe I'm wrong), but it just gets better and better from there on.
There are two extra tracks on the Japanese edition that were not on the international edition. On the Light side 'up down left right BBAB' and on the dark side 'BxMxC'. If you haven't heard them you may want to check them out.
The last 3 songs 'Starlight', 'Shine' and 'Arkadia' are called the Trilogy of Lights and describe the stages of mourning (grief, acceptance and coming to terms with the loss and finally looking to the future and better things to come) we go through after losing somebody close. Perhaps they are about the year BABYMETAL had in 2018 with the tragic loss of guitarist Mikio Fujioka (RIP) and then Yui leaving after her absence for health reasons, perhaps they are about Mikio and Yui - nobody really knows, but they are a great way to end the album (especially 'Shine' which is just beautiful).
Thank you for taking the time to write your comment and to detail that many aspects of the band. I really appreciate it. I honestly did not know that the band I knew from concerts didn't perform the studio recordings. But then again, I enjoy both the studio versions and the live recordings and in the end it comes down to it all just being really cool music to listen to.
In regards to 'Gimme Chocolate' I couldn't agree more. It's by far not their best song. It was my first encounter and I think that if you make it through the video with a smile on your face chances are pretty good you'll enjoy the rest. ☺️
As for 'Metal Galaxy' I get the appeal, but it's just not my cup of tea. If it was split into two CDs in Europe, too, I probably wouldn't have spent any time with the first one. But overall, coming from 'Metal Resistance' the third record just couldn't live up to my expectations. Which is fine by me, I don't have to like everything released by artists I generally enjoy.
@@creasteve_ Thank you for replying. I agree, I also enjoy both the studio and the live versions, but watching the live performance videos it is clear where they are at their best.
You are right about 'Gimme Chocolate' and the people who do make it through with a smile on their face will go on to enjoy the rest. Sadly a lot of people don't make it through with that smile and they will miss out on all the songs and performances they probably would enjoy if they had seen nearly any other song than 'Gimme Chocolate' first.
I completely understand how you feel about Metal Galaxy. I wasn't sure at first and there were songs that I knew I would have to wait for the live performance before I might appreciate them properly ... those songs have grown on me quite rapidly since seeing and hearing them live. I would have said exactly what you said about the first CD originally as well, but I do have the Japanese edition and, even though those two songs I mentioned above will never be among my favourites, I have to say now that I listen to and enjoy both CDs almost equally.
But you are right, if it isn't your cup of tea there is nothing wrong with that - there are very few or possibly no bands where I like everything they've ever done either.
Thank you for your kind words for Babymetal. Spreading the 'good words of the Fox God' ;-)
As Grington I also have been a fan for years and follow them closely, I won't repeat what he said, but try and touch on some other things:
On average we know: it takes 3 Babymetal songs/videos to really appreciate Babymetal. To grew the new pathways in the brain or something and to really get it. To also understand they are serious about what they are doing. It's not just some joke. They are seriously fun, they take making people smile very serious.
When it comes to the third album... while I was incredibly sad about Mikio's death, as mentioned he wasn't involved in the creation of the music, just the live interpretation which he probably did the best guitar work of all of those who have ever played live with Babymetal.
I think they lost 2 things in the third album: the first 2 albums were more infused with innocent fun. The third album turned out to be more serious (the second was also more serious than the first). Which in part is because of their age (the music was always written to fit the girls, maybe even 'in their voice'). The other important part why it turned out more serious is because of that death and because Yuimetal had to leave because of health reasons. Which is represented in the music. The first two albums had: 2 (main singer) Su-metal solo songs and 2 "Black Babymetal" duo songs (just Yuimetal and Moametal). Even Moametal's voice seems to have been used less (she had been very busy training dancers to perform with Babymetal, maybe that's part of the reason). Which makes the album more dynamic (?). Some songs might have even been written for all 3 girls and later had to be changed. And if I can say it: as a connoisseur of Babymetal all 3 albums are overproduced, it's the live performances where they really shine. If you don't have the Japanese version of the third album you might not be familiar with the song BxMxC or maybe you've only seen the MV. But live it really hits home. Their are many fans who say the songs of the first album is best and those are the hardcore fans why like the most raw/experimental Babymetal. And they were disappointed with the second album. But almost all cases, fans who said something is not so good or couldn't get into it: after seeing it live it gets to a new level. Even going so far as: "it was my least favorite Babymetal song and after seeing it live it's become one of my top favorites." :-)
Anyway, for example check the BxMxC MV and then a pretty good live audio from 'fan cams' of 2020 shows in Europe: BABYMETAL 2020 BxMxC ( HQ Audio Mix )
And see in the MV, their are effects used on Su-metal's voice, but live it's much more natural and the music is more raw and heavy. Definitely an improvement.
But maybe it's easier for me to get into such songs as I'm a Su-metal 'fanboy' :-)
PS Babymetal performed 2 times in Berlin: 2015 and 2020, both times at the Huxley's Neue Welt. Which is unusual, Babymetal almost everywhere is performing in bigger venues over time. Except for Japan where they play the biggest arenas, so it's hard to grow bigger that that. Only one year played at the Tokyo Dome stadium.
wish i could understand. babymetal 🔥🔥🔥
Yeah, Babymetal! 🤘🏻😁
Ich mag Babymetal, weil sie so herrlich unangepasst und schräg sind 😊 Und ihre Zusammenarbeit mit Rob Halford und Joakim Broden (Sabaton) ist legendär 👍
Sagen dir eigentlich LOVEBITES etwas? In meinen Augen (und Ohren) eine der besten Power Metal Bands weltweit - alles begnadete Musikerinnen und Live echte Granaten. Die Gitarren-Soli sind immer eine echte Ohrenweide 😁
Wird reingelauscht. 😁
Hallo Stefan
Du hast recht mit den Synapsen, ich kannte es wirklich nicht und als ich es sah, schreien meine Ohren und Augen das Hirn an „WTF ist das denn „
Das passt zusammen wie Wasabi auf einem Nutellabrot, aber wenn sich das Hirn dann scharf gestellt geht es….
Gruß Thomas
Die Band war mir neu, und nicht bekannt. Höre mir gerade den Song "Karate" an. Muss sagen mir gefällt die Musik. Kommt echt gut. Danke dir für den Informativen Mukke Mittwoch. Mach weiter so
...hier mal ein Kommentar für den UA-cam-Algorhitmus...
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Danke, den nehm ich. 😁
kleiner Tip Wagakki Band die find ich Hammer
Also ich mag gerne Nano :)
Nevereverland und Rock on taugen was :)
Ich liebe die Music Scores von Final Fantasy und Kingdom Hearts. Eine Anime Empfehlung ist auf jedem Fall auch Death Note.
Aber am Besten ist immer noch der Score von Neon Genesis Evangelion/Evangelion. Shiro Sagisu ist ein göttlicher Komponist (Angel of Doom, Fate, Carnage). Werde auf jeden Fall mal in Baby Metal reinhören. Danke Stefan für deinen super Mucke Mittwoch!
Sorry to reply in English. Babymetal did a one-off cover of Tamashii no Refuran from the Evangelion series. Done as a solo by lead singer Su-metal at the "Legend 1997" concert celebrating her 16th birthday. There is a video on UA-cam.
Link to one of the better videos. If you need to skip the intro, the song starts at 1:30.
ua-cam.com/video/tp5qPXbDImw/v-deo.html
Ja, das hat schon was. Teilweise völlig irre welche Genres die teilweise zusammen mixen. Einer der Gitarristen Takayoshi Ohmura hat auch schon ein Solo Album gemacht.
Eigentlich geht Speed-, Trash- oder Gothik-Metal kilometerweit an mir vorbei, aber "Gimme Chocolate" ist echt gut. Die anderen Teile kamen mir vor wie Loona aufgezogen.^^
"Karate" hören! Jetzt! 😂 Kein Schnack, wenn "Gimme Chocolate" funktioniert, könnte "Metal Resistance" nach ein paar Hördurchläufen zur Dauerbeschallung avancieren. Die Scheibe ist wirklich richtig gut. ☺️
@@creasteve_ Karate habe ich auch gehört, abgesehen davon, dass die Sängerin tatsächlich eine gute Stimme hat und die Performance typisch japanisch aber klasse ist, gefiel es mir nicht so.
@@creasteve_ .......und ein Jahr später in LA.^^ ua-cam.com/video/INouvLl1JiQ/v-deo.html Die Familie geht sowas von ab!^^
Baby Metal hatten wie auch schon vor einiger Zeit entdeckt und für nicht so schlecht befunden. Beim weiter surfen sind wir dann auch noch auf Wagakki gestossen die durchaus auch sehens- unsd hörenswert sind.
ua-cam.com/video/ponTbDDMYjw/v-deo.html
Ja, die mag ich auch sehr. Nette Mischung, allerdings finde ich die Alben etwas sperriger. Babymetal hört sich irgendwie besser weg. 🙈
Wenn man auf die Portion Metal verzichten kann: Ich feier auch die (leider aufgelösten) Goose House. Ultra-sympathisch. 🥰
Nachtrag: Eine von diversen Aufnahmen dieses Songs. Grooooooßartig! ua-cam.com/video/SnXkhkEvNIM/v-deo.html
@@creasteve_ Goose House gerade noch angehört, wirkich auch nicht schlecht. Mal sehen, ob wir noch mehr finden auf Tube.
Übrigens immer wieder spannend Deine Beiträge, bitte weitermachen
Ich bezeichne es ja als Idol Metal, die erste und einzige Vertreterin ihres Genres XD
Nakamoto hat finde ich auch eine sehr gute Stimme.
und was heißt man kann hier ein komplettes Orchester auf die Bühne setzen? Haggard kann das!
Die offizielle Bezeichnung ist kawaii metal :)
Ich glaub, beide Bezeichnungen gehen klar, aber ich wäre auch bei Kawaii Metal. Und klar kann man so'n Orchester dahinsetzen, aber nicht ausschließlich fürs Intro. 😂
@@Killem911 ja ich weiß, zwar bin ich nicht so bewandert bei den ganzen Bands in Japan, aber ich kenne aktuell keine andere Formation im Style von Babymetal.
@@LutherAsmodi Da gebe ich dir absolut Recht. Babymetal ist absolut einzigartig und unique, wenngleich es andere japanische Bands gibt, die versucht haben dem Stil zu folgen (Band Maid fällt mir da spontan ein), was nicht heißt, das sie versucht haben ihn zu kopieren.
Mal davon abgesehen das Babymetal glaub so überhaupt nix mit Anime zu tun hat (zumindest ist mir kein Anime bekannt wo sie Musik beigesteuert haben) find ich viele ihrer Songs toll, denke "Catch me if you ca" ist da eins der Prägenden wegen der Starken Kontraste der Band zu Metal's :)
Anime Musik ist da ja nun doch bissel anders vom Konzept wie m.o.v.e. (Anime Initial D) bin mir nur nicht sicher ob ihre Songs direkt für die Serie geschrieben wurden oder eingekauft weil sie dazu gepasst haben; Flow (Eureka Seven, Code Geass); Onmyo-za (Basilisk, inbesondere den Intro Song mag ich total der Serie); Kitaro (Ninja Scroll, eher electro, new-age, aber auch wenn er recht schlicht und einfach gehalten ist find ich den Jubei's Theme toll ua-cam.com/video/YFRHGHgyYPE/v-deo.html&ab_channel=EveryAnimeSoundtrack ), und um mal wieder weg zu kommen von reinen Anime .... GACKT ( die Songs Redemtion oder Returner sind da sehr Metalhaltig, wobei er ja eher Visual Kei Künstler ist)
naja, es geht ja niecht wirklich darum dass man hier animesongs hat, sondern anime mag. Im OTon, also entsprechend die hohen stimmlagen, die doch auch in dieser Band gerne vorkommt, wnen ich nicht irre ;)
Genau! Der Gesang ist dem in diversen Anime Intros (und Outros) stilistisch nicht unähnlich. Wenn man sowas mag, fällt der Zugang sicherlich leichter. Ansonsten habe ich nur dank dieses einen Beitrags festgestellt, dass ich bei Anime noch viiiiiiiel zu viele Lücken habe. Das muss ich ändern. 😁
Die Musiker sind kein Teil von Babymetal. Die Kami Band ist nur Liveband. Nix Studio.
Gimme Choco halte ich für den falschen Einstieg jemanden dafür zu begeistern.
Du solltest mal nach Babymetal Guide suchen. Auch der Hintergrund.... Sakura Gakuin ist interessant.
Alle der Mädels können übrigens singen.
Mal gucken wie es weiter geht.
Achso, in Japan kommen jetzt über die Monate 19(?) Vinyl Platten von Konzerten raus.
Das Thema ist zu groß.
Bei Vinyl hattest Du mich. Oh, oh... 🙈
@@creasteve_ die Hälfte der Platten kannste so bestellen, die anderen musst du im Fanclub THE ONE sein.
Kannst auch nenn klappbaren Outdoorbollerwagen von Babymetal bekommen. Die Fans wissen nicht wie ihnen geschieht.
@@nuckeltutchen8901 Jetzt kann ich mich beim besten Willen nicht entscheiden, ob's 'ne Platte oder ein klappbarer Outdoorbollerwagen werden soll. 😂
ich habe diesen hype um diese band nie verstanden. mal live gesehen und ich fand es nur grausig. ich mag bands aus asien und höre auch gerne absurde sachen (japanisches kampfhörspiele auch wenn die aus deutschland sind). höre auch fast jedes genre (hardrock bis grindcore). babymetal ist für meibe ohren nichts. ich akzeptiere aber das andere sie mögen meins ist es nicht. frei nach manowar say no to false metal.