Planting a New Trial Rose Garden
Вставка
- Опубліковано 9 кві 2024
- These rose varieties aren't new to the market - just new to us! We're in the process of evaluating roses and which ones to keep and add to our stock for propagation. Much of this batch came from a generous trading partner in California with a collection of older English (David Austin) roses. We're planting them out for feedback from our visitors and, of course, from channel viewers.
If you find these videos useful, here are a few things you can do to help us out:
Send a tip: www.buymeacoffee.com/fvrosefarm
Have a look at our Amazon shop: www.amazon.com/shop/fraserval...
Drop us a "Like" on our Facebook business page:
/ fraservalleyrosefarm
Leave a review of our farm on Google:
g.page/r/Cfi8qXv8QReZEBE/review
For shareable articles on roses and gardening:
www.fraservalleyrosefarm.com/...
Photo Credits:
Dames de Chenonceau by Salicyna CC BY-SA 4.0
Charles Austin by R. P. Braun CC BY-SA 4.0
Peach Blossom by T. Kiya CC BY-SA 2.0
Summer Song by Salicyna CC BY-SA 4.0
Happy Child by Anna Reg CC BY-SA 3.0
Prospero by T. Kiya CC BY-SA 2.0
La Rose de Molinard by Geolina163 CC BY-SA 4.0
The Prince by T. Kiya CC BY-SA 2.0
English Garden by T. Kiya CC BY-SA 2.0
Amazing Grace by Heliosphere CC BY-SA 4.0
St. Cecilia by Yoko Nekonomania CC BY 2.0
Mary Magdalene by T. Kiya CC BY-SA 2.0
Dark Lady by 掬茶 CC BY-SA 3.0
Jayne Austin by Arashiyama CC BY-SA 3.0
Lichtkonigen Lucia byt Salicyna CC BY-SA 4.0
Sharifa Asma by Geolina163 CC BY-SA 4.0
Geoff Hamilton by Salicyna CC BY-SA 4.0
Fisherman’s Friend by Patrick Nouhailler CC BY-SA 4.0
Heavenly Rosalind by T. Kiya CC BY-SA 2.0
Ambridge Rose by T. Kiya CC BY-SA 2.0
Chartreuse de Parme by Krzysztof Ziarnek, Kenraiz CC BY-SA 4.0
Devoniensis by Krzysztof Ziarnek, Kenraiz CC BY-SA 4.0
Radio Times by Yoko Nekonomania CC BY 2.0
The Fairy by F.D. Richards CC BY-SA 2.0
Monsieur Tillier by 阿坤 Wang kun hung CC BY-SA 4.0
The Impressionist by sedumzz (National Gardening Association) cc-nc-3.0
Mel’s Heritage by Malcolm Manners CC BY 2.0
Summer Wine by Geolina163 CC BY-SA 4.0 - Навчання та стиль
These look amazing. The Austin roses are no longer sold by DA or at local nurseries so it is great that you are keeping them in circulation.
The best David Austin Climber Rose is "The Pilgrim". Unlike many climbers that tend to flower only towards the top of the growth, The Pilgrim will produce abundant Yellow flowers which will bloom all over the plant from the base to the top and repeat this annually. This is the rose they use for many of their biggest displays at Flower Shows due to this flowering characteristic. It would be a great rose to add to your display.
Thanks. I've added on to the "boulevard' area of the garden, so happy to hear it's a great performer!
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Check out Ben Hamilton Anderson, he does alot of individual reviews of each of the different roses offered by DA.
I have grown a crespuscule rose on the Mornington peninsula in Victoria Australia and it grew so strong and healthy , everyone admired it as it was grown on an arch over a footpath leading to our front entrance ,
Nice! This is one I'm really looking forward to.
Summer song is a great rose. I bought one to my mother in Italy. She is just growing now. I wish it was available in the US.
Oh my goodness... you got Cressida... I hollered with joy. Also do you remember the time you were with Kimberly ,I suggested you try to find Cressida. It is so beautiful. it smells amazing. Dark Lady is a good one. Carding Mill is awesome. Sharifa Asma smells amazing. The Prince smells amazing . I'm so happy for you...Debbie from Texas. When you are able to ship to USA, I want Cressida and Fishermans Friend.
Thanks Debbie - Cressida was sitting on my wish list from the time of that video, so I'm glad I got my hands on it! Too bad I didn't have a pic to feature it in the video - but hopefully I'll have plenty once I see it in bloom.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Carding Mill smells just like it ,just not as strong. CM...is beautiful.
You would love the scent of Sharifa Asma - David Austin, lovely soft pink rose
I've got Charles Austin in my garden in Poland (zone 6b) for 13 years. In my opinion it's one of the best DA roses. It blooms from June to December😉 And it has the most beautifull scent in my rose garden( I've got 100 different roses)😀
Thanks - so good to hear that Charles Austin is so fragrant!
The Ambridge Rose is one of my favorites. It has a strong myrrh scent. I live in zone 11a and it is one of the few Austin roses that repeats consistently for me all throughout the year.
Thanks - good to know!
Thanks, Jason. You’ve inspired me to do my own form of a test rose garden. I really love some of those Austin roses.
Really nice Jason! Blessings 💞🙏🏻
Hi Jason 👋 I am so excited to see how they do! I love your set up... Your place is so beautiful! Thank you for another great video.
I have always grown Lady Jane Gray! She will knock your socks off! That has been one of my favorite roses of all time. Mine have been so prolific in blooms with shiny healthy leaves. I wish I could show you photos of my LJG roses in bloom right now. I grow them at either end of my 50' grape arbor. I have grown Happy Child and it is a true bright gold. The blooms are on the smaller size.
Thanks for the feedback Mary. I'm looking forward to seeing LJG!
I was just admiring mine today. They have beautiful sturdy structure and such a robust repeat bloomer! I think each bush has a couple dozen blooms on each of them right now.
Nice addition of roses to trial bed. Great to see old rose Devoniensis here.
I’m looking forward to seeing them grow!
Can't wait to see them in bloom!
Won Fang Yon is an excellent rose! Very vigorous, floriferous and healthy. The blooms are more hot pink than coral though. Hope they’ll gravitate towards coral as the rose bush matures.
Good to know. Thanks Priscilla
Excited to see how these do. 95% of my roses are David Austin. I have 6 Carding Mill & they do great.
Absolutely beautiful Jason. What an awesome verity of roses. Your design of beds,with the cross over walking bridges,is really nice.
That’s going to be beautiful!
Your place is already beautiful with all the new varieties it will be absolutely gorgeous.
Nice! Love it, can’t wait to see them in bloom. Thanks Jason!
Thank you for this peek into your test garden. Always a treat.
I have a Cressida, planted maybe 28-29 years ago. It is not particularly big, but is probably 8-10 feet tall. I have it growing along the railing and up the posts of my porch. It is shaded by trees most of the day, so only sporadically produces blooms, but they are so pretty. Has a bit of a rust problem in the summer, probably related to its less than ideal growing conditions. I’m in zone 10a, and sunset zone 17 (coastal central California) you will probably have different results
Thanks for sharing your experience with it. I would have guessed it to grow larger I'm your warmer climate than here, but we'll find out!
My favorite rose, I wish I had her again.And it smells amazing.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm I’m in the coastal fog belt. Summers are cloudy and cool, it’s in a tough location between house and a French drain. It’s hard to water or fertilize and it’s at the edge of an oak tree’s canopy and is shaded in afternoon by a redwood tree. Its tough rose even though it is not a vigorous grower, I’m pretty sure it’s grafted, and probably from Canada 🇨🇦🤭
Geoff Hamilton was most certainly “ NOT “ a bold, overweight & an alcoholic drunk.. he was a much loved “worthy of praise “.. & very much missed by his viewers since his passing.. an excellent “ Gardener’s World “ program’s presenter of his time .. please have some “ respect “ & “ manners “ for such knowledgeable & famous gardeners .. there will never be another “Geoff Hamilton “in that program ever again..thank you for passing your excellent knowledge to us Geoff.. i still grow gladiolis the way to tought us to .. salute to Mr. Geoff Hamilton from London England 🏴
I was happy to see a rose named after him. Watched him many moons ago on the BBC - Gardeners World.
Happy gardening season, new subscriber
Very excited to see how they all get on. I have only one of these, Devoniensis. Recent twig count is 84 roses, oops.
84 isn't an oops, I'm afraid to say!
Looking forward to seeing these grow and bloom.
The Anna Kathleen is breathtaking! I would buy that one in a nanosecond ❤
Very exciting! Can’t wait for updates.
❤❤❤❤❤ beautiful roses.
We have decided to do rose garden so far at least 40 rose bushes thank you
Nice, Jason.
Thank you Jason. 🪻🌷💚🙃
Great selections, looking forward to seeing how they do for you. The Prince is lovely but does blackspot pretty bad here in the northeast coast
Thanks for that! It's a concern here too, so I'll be interested to see how it does
Hi! I have Blushing Lucy!
I loved the story if this rose. The breeder named after his wife Lucy because she was shy and blushed a lot lol.
The great grandson got a piece of the original it something to that effect. I planted it last year on one side of a moongate and it’s almost reaching the top. Last season it had a bloom or two but I could not get to it to enjoy. Hoping to this year!
Thank you.
They look beautiful, I love Summer Song! I couldn't get it anywhere.
Some real beauties there. I was so hoping for Raubritter Kordes rose to be available closer to home (yvr) I'll have to keep waiting.
It's been on my wishlist for a while too (even though I'm trying to lighten up on once-bloomers!)
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm But what a bloom!
A grower in the Maritimes has it for sale, I can't get around the nearly $60 for shipping a bare root rose.
Corn Hill I'd guess. I know someone locally who has (or had - I haven't checked recently) a Raubritter in the garden. I'll have to bring it up when I hear from her again.
I have a Raubritter. They use to sell it at roses of yesterday and today in Watsonville California . I saw it in bloom there, it was fabulous and had to get it. It is more than 20 years old and looks nothing like the one I saw there 😂 could be my lack of attention or how cool the summers are (and warm-ish winter), but it is rather short sprawling bush. Also, pretty sad what has happened to RoYandT, just my observation, don’t know if they even have it growing in their demo garden anymore. 😢
how exciting
I fully endorse this! Some doozies!
I hope you have success with them! I have a climbing Austen rose called Bathsheba that I planted last year, but no bloom yet. Maybe this year.
Very interested in Summer Song for it's color and fragrance. I wish I could get one! Can't wait to see how it does for you.
I, too, would love to get Summer Song!
I have Sharif Asma which is very beautiful. Grows to 4-5 ft. Fragrant. Happy in part sun. Very few problems.
Thanks - health and vigor is one thing that we're definitely concerned with on the older varieties, so I appreciate the feedback
After cutting the first bloom of Strawberry Hill... I think I have found a replacement for Cressida.... which I can't get here in the US.
Jason
I have Chaucer and Ferdinand Conrad Meyer. They are the parents of Cressida. FCM ,is an awesome rose. I think you should get it. DA used it alot in breeding roses. Chaucer is a sweet older Austin too. I wish I could find The Reeve.
Thanks for the recommendations! My 'The Reeve' is just coming into its own after many years in the garden.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Wow!!!
Great selection and really nicely laid out. I'm getting a Charles Austin planted in the UK so will be interesting to see the differences this spring and summer. I'm also getting in DA Pretty Jessica, supposedly ideal for container gardening, small bushy form and superb fragrance, maybe one to consider in the future.
Thanks!
la-rose-de-molinard is an excellent rose, disease free and almost constantly in flower. It can get quite big, mine gets to 6 feet.
I love the orange/gold/tangerine/copper roses but in Nova Scotia they can barely survive one winter. In your zone 8 or 9 weather they may last but they do have a sort of death wish about them. I'll be interested in how long they last for you. I wouldn't put them in any situation where longevity matters.
And after all this time poor Lady Jane Grey has a rose! She surely deserves it.
Hmmm - anything in the Canadian explorer series in that color range? It's a shame they stopped development on those.
I did briefly grow Dark Lady here in (at that time) zone 7a (recessed since to 7b). She had gorgeous blooms but her growth wasn’t as vigorous for me as Falstaff, but in all fairness, I think that was just down to weaker root stock. Interested to see how she fares for you.
Thanks - and good point on the rootstock making a difference. All of these are own-root, so if any are weaklings ungrafted that'll show in the results.
I love Falstaff.
I hope Summer Song will do well for you :)
Grow them all even if you don’t propergate them. Keep the varieties alive
Wow Radio Times! My order of Radio Times was changed because it was sold out. I got Fryer's Sight Saver
Schucks! But my first impression of Sight Saver (also added last year) is that it's excellent
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm It weathered our 1st and prolonged heatwave. Early this week she and Culcutta 300 flowers. The rest are still budding
I really want Geoff Hamilton . Someone I knows has this rose in 9B Orlando, Florida and it handles the heat.
My other rose is Radio times and Cressida . Any DA old roses I would love to grow.
Also Wan Fong Yon by Barden ( i love this man). Heard it does extremely well in Florida. I really want to get this rose as well.
I hope you can sell to us in the States.
I can't wait to see their growth and blooms.
❤❤❤.
.
I am looking forward to order carding mill Geoff Hamilton and other David Austin roses
Carding Mill is awesome.
I grow Sharifa Asma. Great fragrance.
These look great! I really need to come out mid summer to see them. I'm planning to visit this Friday after the Bradner Flower Show. Have you started cuttings from the red climber you showed in the tour of Select Roses? Brad offered you a cutting, I believe.
Thanks - he sure did, but the timing wasn't quite right so I'll have to catch him a little later in the season
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm we're waiting impatiently. :)
Jason, with the litany of roses you have on your property, how do you manage watering of all of these? are they all set up on a drip system? would this be realistic for a consumer? do you give special watering attention to the newly planted roses? Might be a good video idea, thanks in advance.
Your soil looks good for it! Do a bang up job on my Rugosa Roses this year! Mild winter here.
Get out there folks get your Roses pounding! I'm not a female like, But totally believe in color interest on a property!!! Inspiring!
Jason how many roses do you have planted on your property? Is there any point in time that all of your roses are in bloom at the same time? That would be amazing to see!
I'll need to recount after I've done planting for the year. I suspect it's in the range of 400 now, which sounds like a lot to me, but among dedicated hobbyists, it's not unusual to see collections in the hundreds. Ben at Heirloom Roses numbered theirs in the thousands. No, there are still roses that haven't begun to bloom by the time the earliest of the Scots roses are finishing up, so it's never all at once, but pretty close to it in June (precise timing depends on the weather)
A rose? I bought 2 roses from my local big box store. My ? The rose has beautiful root system. Then a approximately 6 inch very thick trunck the the crown. Bury the trunk in soil? Almost looks like being made into a standard.. but wasnt. Im a zone 6 ( new zone) can get winds with temp into the negative double digits.
I can only dream about some day having the space or to attempt making a space -and time to dedicate to a project like this. Privately or professionally. Does anybody from DA ever reach out to discourage the propagation of older varieties? They dont seem to play well with others.
I've only heard gossip about it from within the industry, and it has seemed to scare off a few big players. Who wants even the threat of legal action - whether you win or not, you lose!
Hi Jason!! Question: Are Kordes roses bred specifically for more disease resistance... especially for more hot, humid areas? I live in NC, USA Zone 8a. We are very hot and humid. If not Kordes, what rose breed/type of roses should I be looking for? I'm also just curious why you mix sand with the compost on your new trial bed. Should I be doing this too if I want to prep a new area? Thank you for always taking the time to answer my questions! Have a great day..😊
It's one of their goals for sure, but they do their evaluations in a cooler climate (northern Germany if I'm not mistaken). Nonetheless, I hear that many of theirs like Beverly or South Africa (and others in the Sunbelt series) perform quite well in warmer climates.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Excellent!!! Screenshot taken! 😉 Thank you!
Rosen Tantau has good streak with healthy roses lately. I straight up dug out some older Kordes roses and replaced them. But I'm zone 7 in central Europe.
Curious if you purchased the plant markers or made them yourself. I would love to get some similar to these.
We had these made at a local engraving/trophy supplier. They have all the right tools to make the job quick & clean. This is the same Rowmark plastic stock they use for name badges and trophy plates, but we did have to specify color and that it be UV resistant.
Not a DA rose but i got my hands on a couple of Poulsen roses Castle series. I cant find anything about them. Like hardiness zones. The flowers have a high petal count, a cup shape with serrated edges. Have you run across them? Id love to send you some cuttings
Thanks. There's a supplier of Poulsen roses in Ontario, but I really haven't run into them in garden centers here in BC - so I don't have a lot to judge them by. What's your impression of them so far? Fragrance?
Can you tell me please where you got the labels? I’ve been wanting some just like that !
Local engraving shop - like the kind of plastic they'd use for putting names on trophies - we just had to specify the color and that it was for outdoor use, so they could pick the right stock.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thanks!
most of the Austins are not available, at all UK (all are out of patent, obvs). --- Did you measure out the spacing? How much space did you give? --- Do you think the roses were discontinued because they were not very healthy / floriferous? DA still sells Summer Song, Geoff Hamilton and Jayne Austin. Prospero and The Prince is still sold by other UK traders. Thanks for sharing this with us. The results will be fascinating.
Thanks. I'm treating this as a temporary home, so I wasn't super careful with spacing. About 4.5 ft between, but staggered (one towards the front of the bed, the next towards the back) so probably a little more comfortable for breathing room. I segregated most of the super large growers (on paper) to elsewhere in the garden, but I know some of the DA roses will surprise me on the large side once established.
On the point of the plants being discontinued due to quality problems, it's definitely a possibility that I'm keeping an eye on. It's one of the reasons we're going to take our time to evaluate real garden performance and take feedback from customers/viewers as well
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm It's nice to involved your viewers in the process. So often with US/Canada plots the roses are not sold across the pond and we have not heard of them.
I planted four Yellow Brick Road roses last summer. I thought one had died. Today it put on a couple of small leaves. How long should I give it to decide to live or die? I've already bought the replacement.
That's a personal judgement call. I guess I'd be looking to see how vigorous any new growth is - if it's roaring to fast recovery, let it troop on. But if it's still struggling in 2-3 weeks, I'd probably replace it.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you.
Where did you get the name tags for the roses?
I’d love to know that as well!
It's a local engraving/trophy business - VM Ribbon is the name, but that would probably only be useful for locals. The thin about engraving places is that they already have the equipment and plastic stock on hand to use for marking trophies, name plates etc. You just have to be specific that the stock be UV resistant for outdoor use.
I can’t find Anna Kathleen does she have a different name? And could you please include the fragrance of the roses
Thanks - I'll likely feature fragrance and zone hardiness in future videos, and thanks for the reminder. For this quick survey of the plantings I limited the info posted to class and breeder/introducer. Anna Kathleen is one of Robin Dening's selections, and in some cases he never registered or listed on HMF. So it'll be interesting to see them in the garden. He's got a good eye for roses, so I definitely feel they're worth a try.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarmthank you I’d appreciate if you could include fragrance because I only buy and plant fragrant roses because I love them and always on the hunt for the most fragrant one 😊 Anna Kathleen looks beautiful tho
I understand patent laws are different in different countries, so this may not apply. And I also know that you are in Canada, and I don't know how and what the laws are there so this may not apply. Summer Song hasn't been out for 20 years, which in the US, it is still under patent. Is it under patent in Canada and since you mentioned that most of the roses in this bed were obtained from cuttings; if this is the case does it impact you for announcing that you have it from a cutting? Again, I am not trying to stir up any hard feelings, and I don't want anything negative to happen, I really don't know.
Thanks. TBH I don't think it'll make a lot of difference. The trading partner sent over a batch of cuttings that according to him were past patent, and I stuck the whole batch to get these plants to evaluate. None are in production on my farm (they're in the bed to be evaluated for quality) and if/when we decide they're good performers & true to type (which is still a question) we'll do some more work on verifying patent status, etc. If it's not yet past the 20 years, I take it as a good faith error. As for the question of whether patent laws are different in Canada - there's an exception in Canada that allows for gardeners to do personal propagation without any of the commercial rules coming into play. We'd probably be in a grey area, as this isn't commercial propagation (for sale) but someone could argue that it not quite personal either. In any case, all enforcement is focused on those who are propagating at scale for selling (as it is in the US as well). DA is not known to be shy about sending threat letters (whether legally entitled or not) so I suppose if I've run afoul, I'll be the first to know.
In Malaysia, as a beginner I was also forced to adopt the idea of a test garden. It was only from experience and burning through many rose IDs to determine what could truly work for hot weather. Unfortunately for XYZ reasons, the rose plant sellers here are not always reliable so I had to test it out on my own or find trustworthy local rose enthusiasts who would tell me their honest experiences.
You know I've heard that before about suppliers in Malaysia. Glad to hear you were able to work around with local hobbyists!
Do you have permission to propagate these?
They are out of patent
These are older roses - and some were never patented. In the case of the Dening roses, I bought them directly from the introducer, but for the others it's not required.
DA roses doesnt seem to handle the tropics
Struggle really hard and eventually die
Very strange
roses are not tropical plants
@@FireflyOnTheMoon depends on varieties and breeders, some grow like weeds in the warmer climate
With all the words in all the languages in the world, someone thought that calling a rose "Geoff Hamilton" was a good idea. I'm sure it will turn out to be a bald, overweight and alcoholic rose.
What about fishermans friend 😂😂
Lol. You always crack me up Brad. It's always interesting to see the reactions of gardeners to roses named after real people - and I've heard some strong opinions from customers on the farm!
Geoff Hamilton's mother is probably thrilled
Excuse me… but Geoff Hamilton was an excellent & very very talented presenter of “ gardener’s world “program & a very knowledgeable at that too .. much loved by his viewers & was a very famous & outstanding gardener i’d ever watched .. so have some “ manners “ …& this rose in dedicated to him in his memory & rightly so..everyone who sells them .. happens to have a sold out sign .. is extremely difficult & impossible to get hold of in England 😮😮😮😮
@@FraserValleyRoseFarmextremely “ bad manners “ to say such nasty words about a very very talented & knowledgeable “ Geoff Hamilton.. I’m so upset
I thought patented roses or any plant with a patent couldn’t be reproduced except by the owner of the patent ? 🪻🌷💚🙃 I BELIVE you said that these were cuttings ? 🪻🌷💚🙃
Yes, from cuttings. The majority (if not all, but I'd have to check) of these are unpatented or past patent. At this point they're just trial plants in my garden, so I'm not fussed enough about it to do the research, but if they turn out to be "winners" I'd make certain before propagating commercially
Patents only run for a set time.
I’ve grown Secret in the Washington DC area and in the foothills in Northern California: beautiful flower with great fragrance but a weak, unhealthy bush in both places.
Thanks @sheilaberry9837 good to know!